Yes, you should all be ashamed

[Colleen]

Note: this message applies to those who do the following.

One nice day a visitor comes to Digital Point and signs up. They're now a new member of this forum. Everything's fine BUT lo and behold they ask the wrong question somewhere, or say something COMPLETELY normal, which some assclown doesn't like, well let's give them some red rep for it.

New member, not knowing what he did wrong, makes a thread to ask about it. What happens? Other member who should be welcoming, red rep him.

That's stupid. You school yard bullies should be ashamed! I don't know what kind of example you think you are setting, I don't know what your goal is and I don't know why you are such assholes, I guess you were dropped on your head or something.

Treat people with respect. It's bad enough the stupid rep system is abused.

Fryman: Not this shit again or whatever you say. How do you think some of us feel to get rude, derogatory comments in our rep? Maybe you, who's sucked up to and feared, God knows why, doesn't know what it's like cause he doesn't get them or maybe you just don't care. Sorry we're not all like you!

No it doesn't mean the person needs help. Do you even know how many Americans are proven to be suffering from depression? Do you know how many get up and try to have a good day and a shitty comment like that can possibly ruin that?

Then you have your cronies who think it's so funny and post the picture for you. Don't you all realize you're attacking an innocent person!

The real jerk is the one going around giving red and saying stupid crap in the rep comments, and then the even bigger jerks are DP's very own school yard bullies.

Come put up your hands bullies, I know damn well it's some of you whom are very respected and looked up to, or who have #,### amount of posts.

You should all be ashamed.

How many good people are here who have to go around with toilet paper cleaning up your shit? I can only give good rep back to so many people.

Also, I think Shawn does enough here as it is, I think the higher ranks should have a little more respect for the little guy, with all this shit going around, this place is starting to stink. What a way to thank Shawn. WONDERFUL!

Oh and you can all play follow the STINKY shitty leader and bad mouth me, you can red rep me, do whatever you want.

I will defend innocent people. I will not stand for giving red for no reason. It makes me sick. Can't even make a thread about it, well you know what I say to that, too bad. Stop red repping for no reason then people will have nothing to YART about.

I think you all just like it, little power trip for you, would be funny to see you survive without a little anonymous rep function, I bet that would ruin your day.

[aaron_nimocks]

I agree here. I normally try to help out people thats new that ask the common wierd questions just to see my post followed by hate posts.

Well unless its a spammer than I wont be nice. :)

[Colleen]

Don't worry guys, the only red I'd get from this is from senior members. It's funny how people you know so long treat you like crap and the new people are nice.

Roman, this doesn't take a bad mood to post, it's a fact and I am not afraid to say it and I don't follow a leader, I am my own leader.

Thanks for the green, not required but nice of you all nonetheless.

[GRIM]

Props for having by far the biggest balls on DP C...:D..

[Roman]

Don't worry guys, the only red I'd get from this is from senior members. It's funny how people you know so long treat you like crap and the new people are nice.

Roman, this doesn't take a bad mood to post, it's a fact and I am not afraid to say it and I don't follow a leader, I am my own leader.

Thanks for the green, not required but nice of you all nonetheless.

I know, it was the funniest thing I could come up with, being sober and all;)

[DomainMaster]

Thank you Colleen! Shawn should get the message that anonymity is grounds for uncontrolled hatred and abuse!

[Colleen]

When you have to be afraid to venture into a subforum here about a topic you don't know a lot about because if you ask a question to LEARN you will get red, I'd say it's gone too far and it has.

[Kaediem]

Great Post! I've been given red rep for asking a question which a dp member figured I should have googled.... I'm glad I wasn't new at the time - probably would have sent me cowering to a corner! This should be a sticky!

Lisa

[Colleen]

They should suggest Google, no reason to red you too on top of not being more helpful.

[aaron_nimocks]

They should suggest Google, no reason to red you too on top of not being more helpful.

Or if they still wanted to try to be funny and help you out some at the same time they could have suggested you searched for it on Yahoo. :)

[fryman]

Sucked up to? Hmmm... colleen, you know me well enough to realize that I really don't care about what people think about me, including you, of course.

Sorry to see you getting up the wrong side of the bed, or maybe you just need to go visit this site (http://www.usdoctor.com/pms.htm)...

I am just sick of seeing people crying like babies about their rep... who gives a shit about it? If you get so messed up because of a comment some stranger makes on a forum then you really have some serious issues

[GRIM]

Sucked up to? Hmmm... colleen, you know me well enough to realize that I really don't care about what people think about me, including you, of course.

Sorry to see you getting up the wrong side of the bed, or maybe you just need to go visit this site (http://www.usdoctor.com/pms.htm)...

I am just sick of seeing people crying like babies about their rep... who gives a shit about it? If you get so messed up because of a comment some stranger makes on a forum then you really have some serious issues
If you're so sick of it why are you drawn to it like a moth to a light?..

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[fryman]

Since this is really a YART ... here it is...

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1952/85314uh.jpg

:D :D :D

[Colleen]

Fryman, no one said you care what people think.

I don't need to be in a bad mood to state what's going on here and clearly, you instigate a lot of it. If that's how you deal with things, just say people have serious issues then sweep it under the carpet, that's your choice.

It still does not deal with the issue at hand.

And thanks for showing you're a sexist pig. Good to know. Miserable f**k.

If you're so sick of it why are you drawn to it like a moth to a light?..

Good point.

So far Fryman, you're the only one complaining, I think your ego is too big for your reality.

[fryman]

Wow, you are a really classy lady :D

Whatever, Colleen. You made your point. If that is how you think, I respect that.

[DomainMaster]

If you're so sick of it why are you drawn to it like a moth to a light?..

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Quote of the month^

Fryman, most of us don't give a shit but I think it's fair to know who red reps you. I like your creativity and sense of humor but some people are sensitive. If you don't care then why do you reply to every YART?

[GRIM]

Quote of the month^

Fryman, most of us don't give a shit but I think it's fair to know who red reps you. I like your creativity and sense of humor but some people are sensitive. If you don't care then why do you reply to every YART?
Maybe it works for him instead of visiting this site (http://www.enlargepenisguide.com/) ?

:D

[Colleen]

Wow, you are a really classy lady :D

Whatever, Colleen. You made your point. If that is how you think, I respect that.
The last thing anyone is getting out of me is class. People are being treated like shit and no one says a word, it's gone on long enough. I will say what I think, I will phrase it however I like.

You're not very "classy" yourself.

[fryman]

If you don't care then why do you reply to every YART?

Hmm.... I don't see why you people take it so seriously. I have just been posting the picture as a humorous way of saying "geez, again this same old stuff?"

I have ALWAYS said that rep shouldn't be taken as a life or death matter. Some people just seem to be willing to jump of a bridge when they get red repped. Don't take it so seriously, guys! Ask Shoemoney, he had loads of red rep when he got here, and now people think he is a moderator.

[SportsOutlaw]

Its taken seriously by many because it is simply childish as hell to run around "repping" people simply because it makes you feel like a tough guy even though it is done in complete secrecy.

Glad to see somebody actually bring this up around here as it is nothing but a childish game for a few egomaniacs.

[Colleen]

hahaha red rep, love you guys, you're proving my point exactly. When all is said and done I will show you the school yard bully mentality here. Losers.

[fryman]

Glad to see somebody actually bring this up


Nothing new about it, it has been brought up many, many, maaaany times before. Why do you think the term "yart" was created? (Yet Another Rep Thread)
Only difference is that it was never brought up by someone posting as if she suffered from Tourette's syndrome :D

[Colleen]

Nothing new about it, it has been brought up many, many, maaaany times before. Why do you think the term "yart" was created? (Yet Another Rep Thread)
Only difference is that it was never brought up by someone posting as if she suffered from Tourette's syndrome :D
;) Sticks and stones. Wow, you really do have the mentality of a school yard bully, are you sure you're not 12.

[digitalpoint]

This thread reminded me of something I've been meaning to implement (there is more to it, but the rest is a lot of coding time), so now it is.

[jackburton2006]

Woohoo! No more reps! LOL.

I say get rid of the thing completely.

[fryman]

you really do have the mentality of a school yard bully

Don't understand why you say that... but anyway, I am now the most infamous person on the forum :D

And Shawn's new modification to the rep system should solve most of the rep issues you complained about. Lets hope the YARTs are dead now and carry on with our lives

Love you all

[Roman]

What's with fryman's 5 reds?
I smell a mod with a sense of humor or maybe a forum owner:)

[fryman]

Guess it is retroactive for the red rep I have given to spammers and people that get on my nerves :D

But as I have always said... what, me worry?

[DomainMaster]

We can call this a revolution! fryman, how many red boxes does it take to get banned?

[Roman]

Guess it is retroactive for the red rep I have given to spammers and people that get on my nerves :D

But as I have always said... what, me worry?

LOL, that's funny, but should be fixed.

[fryman]

We can call this a revolution! fryman, how many red boxes does it take to get banned?


Hmmm... interesting question... I can live with 10 red boxes, but I sure can't go on without this forum!

[digitalpoint]

No, it's not an auto-ban. :) Plus the "retroactiveness" of it isn't set in stone (see other thread).

[fryman]

Leave it... I like these red boxes! :D

[DomainMaster]

Leave it... I like these red boxes! :D
I think you have the most of them around here.

[bluemouse2]

Colleen here is a present for you: yummy cheesecake from bluemouse :p You deserve it! :D

http://rajekar.ca/images/NYCheesecake.jpg

[fryman]

Hey, could everyone here please red rep me?? I would like to have a glowing red square in my rep!!

Come on!! Join the Fryman movement!!

[DomainMaster]

Hey, could everyone here please red rep me?? I would like to have a glowing red square in my rep!!

Come on!! Join the Fryman movement!!

Make a thread about it lol

[jackburton2006]

Prediction: Reciprical green rep exchanges between users grows dangerously out of hand! Digital Point is evacuated before implosion of green reps!

[fryman]

Make a thread about it lol

ahahahahaha!

Yeah, I should start a thread about how bad people are here because I have a red rep and how mean everybody is! Boo hoo!!!


Reciprical green rep exchanges between users grows dangerously out of hand!

That has been happening for a looong time, believe me, we know about it.

Rob, Ysf1 and people with big rep, come and red rep me... I want to see my red squares glow...

[DomainMaster]

...and then we could all post your infamous picture :)

[EGS]

Oh shit fryman has the worst reputation now!

[fryman]

Isn't it cool?! :D

[Shoemoney]

Its true... when i started here I got like -80 rep for trying to sell a pr8 domain that had 0 backlinks =P

total newb

[fryman]

hahahahahaha

Always makes me laugh, Shoe!

[Shoemoney]

heheheh it is so ironic..

[GeorgeB.]

fryman, does this mean when you red rep someone it's now worth squat?

[fryman]

Nope... still got some rep left... ;)

Wanna try it? :D

[GeorgeB.]

If it's green sure why not :D

If it's red, I'll pass.

[iatbm]

Oh shit fryman has the worst reputation now!

ants are striking back :)

really people talk about this rep too much. It is so obvious if you get red the shut up and say something wise.

Go red rep me now

[Will.Spencer]

Hmm.... I don't see why you people take it so seriously. I have just been posting the picture as a humorous way of saying "geez, again this same old stuff?"

fryman, seriously, that post is really goddamn annoying.

[EGS]

What if we all red repped Shawn? :D:D:D:D

[Michael_Goldman]

Hey, could everyone here please red rep me?? I would like to have a glowing red square in my rep!!

Come on!! Join the Fryman movement!!
hmm I'd love too, but for some strange reason it says
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to fryman again.

:D :D



EGS, shawan is really cool why would we do somehting like that? ;)

[DPTony]

I totally agree with what your saying, when I first joined I put something in the wrong place on accident and someone red rep me and I didn't know why at all and I think i started a thread asking why.

[the_pm]

In my time here, I've noticed the same issue, not necessarily new members getting treated unfairly, but members beating each other up with reputation points for no good reason. This does one of two things: either it has a real impact on the members who get points unfairly, because reputation means something to DP, or it belittles the entire system and makes it meaningless. Either way, it's not good.

I received a well-deserved negative rep a few months back for posting bad information. It was accompanied by a detailed explanation of why the member thought I deserved it, and it was signed. The whole thing was very respectful, and I have to believe this is how the system was meant to be used. I'm certain there have been discussions on this, but I have to believe most of the issues would be cleared up if reputation was not anonymous. Many of the arguments against the losing of rep when you give it negatively are quite valid, and I believe taking the anonymity out of the system will end a lot of arguments as well as the need to dock members for dishing it out when it is deserved.

We considered turning on reputation at IWDN, on the request of a couple DP members who post there as well. We've studied the DP model for how it is instituted, and every time we think it might be a good idea, something like this comes up and reaffirms that reputation would not serve the community well. Is this the answer for DP too?

[PedstersPlanet]

Fryman, stop trying to be the centre of attension - coleeen attacked you, which you say you do not care about right, but you have to go overboard and try to turn the tables around (resorting to reverse phsycology)..

:)

[mdvaldosta]

I think this thread is long overdue. I wonder how many newbies left shortly after joining because they were on the wrong side of a rep thread...

[Colleen]

In my time here, I've noticed the same issue, not necessarily new members getting treated unfairly, but members beating each other up with reputation points for no good reason. This does one of two things: either it has a real impact on the members who get points unfairly, because reputation means something to DP, or it belittles the entire system and makes it meaningless. Either way, it's not good.

I received a well-deserved negative rep a few months back for posting bad information. It was accompanied by a detailed explanation of why the member thought I deserved it, and it was signed. The whole thing was very respectful, and I have to believe this is how the system was meant to be used. I'm certain there have been discussions on this, but I have to believe most of the issues would be cleared up if reputation was not anonymous. Many of the arguments against the losing of rep when you give it negatively are quite valid, and I believe taking the anonymity out of the system will end a lot of arguments as well as the need to dock members for dishing it out when it is deserved.

We considered turning on reputation at IWDN, on the request of a couple DP members who post there as well. We've studied the DP model for how it is instituted, and every time we think it might be a good idea, something like this comes up and reaffirms that reputation would not serve the community well. Is this the answer for DP too?
Great post, Paul. It's nice to see you voicing your opinion on this matter. ;)

Fryman, stop trying to be the centre of attension - coleeen attacked you, which you say you do not care about right, but you have to go overboard and try to turn the tables around (resorting to reverse phsycology)..

:)
True. He says I have Tourette's syndrome and exaggerates saying I posted one swear word after the other, which I did not, you can read the first post of this thread as proof.

Swear words were placed strategically to emphasize points, all valid and proper. If he can't get it, that's his problem.

All feeble attempts to mask the real problem.

[amitpatel_3001]

as usual u r correct collen :)
You are more beautiful now :)
Sssshhhhhh you are the * of DP :)

[LaCabra]

I think one of the main problems is that some DP members really don't understand REP ... both red and green ... just like there is unneccessary red rep going around there is also unnecessary green rep flying around aswell.

[Skinny]

Collen I think you and I agree on the Utopian dream of DP. However, I think that there will always be the so called Frymans of this forum and members need to deal with them.

A forum is just like the real world, nice people and not so nice people. Members need to deal with them.

Leaving DP because of a red rep and dumb comment is like saying, "You know what I'll quit my job because my boss called me a jerk."

Skinny

[Colleen]

Proof many agree but just didn't say anything.

http://www.mystical-twilight.com/dp-rep.gif

Nice to see so-called "senior" members giving me red. You're obviously what's wrong with society today, people like you. You're the ones like that old man in the news recently who shot and killed a 15 y/o for walking on his lawn. It's truly disgusting!

Collen I think you and I agree on the Utopian dream of DP. However, I think that there will always be the so called Frymans of this forum and members need to deal with them.

A forum is just like the real world, nice people and not so nice people. Members need to deal with them.

Leaving DP because of a red rep and dumb comment is like saying, "You know what I'll quit my job because my boss called me a jerk."

Skinny
Whatever. If my "boss" called me a jerk enough times and it was unwarranted, I WOULD quit my job. No one will treat me like sh!t plus there's always another job out there. That's a pussy to work for a boss who calls you names for no reason.

Fryman is beyond "not so nice" he's plain out EVIL.

[Will.Spencer]

Proof many agree but just didn't say anything.
http://www.mystical-twilight.com/dp-rep.gif
DAMN! I should have started an anti-fryman cult long ago. I'd have more green than Minstrel! :D

[joeychgo]

I think this thread is long overdue. I wonder how many newbies left shortly after joining because they were on the wrong side of a rep thread...


I agree completely

Proof many agree but just didn't say anything.

http://www.mystical-twilight.com/dp-rep.gif

Nice to see so-called "senior" members giving me red. You're obviously what's wrong with society today, people like you. You're the ones like that old man in the news recently who shot and killed a 15 y/o for walking on his lawn. It's truly disgusting!


How did you get that much rep to display?

[Skinny]

I dunno, Colleen, I see it like this:

If your boss kept calling you a jerk, I'm sure that other employees would soon realize that the real jerk is him.

Rep is like that. It means nothing. If you stand up for yourself it will only be time before the bullies are exposed for who they are.

Wasn't it you who eloquently put this thread together?

Skinny

[lorien1973]

How did you get that much rep to display?
That was my question too. I thought it was limited to the last 5.

[amitpatel_3001]

dont u know any image editing softwares :confused:

[Skinny]

Wait wait Photoshop!! Now the whole mystery is cleared up.;)

Skinny

[Colleen]

Wasn't it you who eloquently put this thread together?
Your point is what?

[soul-healer]

That was my question too. I thought it was limited to the last 5.


It is some image editing work. Did you notice borken Table borders ?

[iatbm]

Come on life is to beautifull to be bothered with reps ! well to tell the trouth i got mad when i received first red, then i realized that it is not worth shit that green and red ... it is just a color ! and i am starting to hate all those threads about rep too .... that is what is wrong with dp and not some members giving red !!

[maldives]

Colleen, you have started a great thread. I am in full agreement with what you have said.

Justice is done!

[Crazy_Rob]

Holy shit! :eek: That's a lot of rep for one day, Colleen.

[the_pm]

Your point is what?
Psst. Give that post a reread. I think he was giving kudos ;)

Great post, Paul. It's nice to see you voicing your opinion on this matter.I'm not afraid to admit it when I fart in public, and I'm not afraid to have an opinion, even if some people might think it stinks.

That's an analogy. In truth, I have a very deep and disturbing phobia of public flatulence :p

[Moe]

I wonder how different that rep image would look if Colleen wasn't a cute female (I'd be willing to bet it would be much smaller).

For the record, I pretty much agree with Colleen on her post and that people asking about rep often didn't deserve the treatment that they received. But often people are red repped for good reason and this new change punished people who were just trying to make this community a better place by using the rep system in the way that it was intended.

If this were my place I would just get rid of the whole thing.

[Colleen]

Thanks maldives!

Holy shit! :eek: That's a lot of rep for one day, Colleen.
Lol, look at the update.

Thanks Paul, I'm still not sure what he was getting at with the last bit.

The rep graphic is screenshots pasted together. That's it, that's all.

I wonder how different that rep image would look if Colleen wasn't a cute female (I'd be willing to bet it would be much smaller).

For the record, I pretty much agree with Colleen on her post and that people asking about rep often didn't deserve the treatment that they received. But often people are red repped for good reason and this new change punished people who were just trying to make this community a better place by using the rep system in the way that it was intended.

If this were my place I would just get rid of the whole thing.
I wholeheartedly agree with giving red rep when it's warranted.

It was the giving of red rep for no reason that was really a huge problem here.

A new member looking for guidance doesn't deserve red and to basically be told where to go. Same as a senior member asking a question about something they don't know much about and getting red for it, that's 100% wrong.

[maldives]

I'm not afraid to admit it when I fart in public, and I'm not afraid to have an opinion, even if some people might think it stinks.

That's an analogy. In truth, I have a very deep and disturbing phobia of public flatulence :p
Ha ha ha ha ha Thanks very much for another great post :D :D

[Cricket]

I wonder how different that rep image would look if Colleen wasn't a cute female (I'd be willing to bet it would be much smaller).

For the record, I pretty much agree with Colleen on her post and that people asking about rep often didn't deserve the treatment that they received. But often people are red repped for good reason and this new change punished people who were just trying to make this community a better place by using the rep system in the way that it was intended.

If this were my place I would just get rid of the whole thing.

I think perhaps it is more likely that it's an indication that a lot of people have felt that way for a long time, and were simply afraid to stand up and say something for fear that they would become the new target.

Just my .02

[fryman]

Fryman, stop trying to be the centre of attension

he he... I sure aren't interested in being the center of attention. It is you people that are causing this. there are 2 rep threads right now and everybody keep mentioning me over and over.

Move on! Forget about this, it has been discussed enough. Lets move to the real webmaster stuff. Can't believe you like to talk so much about stupid things like rep when there are lots of SEO topics ready to be analized.

But you are right, enough is enough, I am done with these rep related threads. I'll go back to the Google forum and see what I can find over there.

[Michael_Goldman]

Proof many agree but just didn't say anything.

http://www.mystical-twilight.com/dp-rep.gif

Nice to see so-called "senior" members giving me red. You're obviously what's wrong with society today, people like you. You're the ones like that old man in the news recently who shot and killed a 15 y/o for walking on his lawn. It's truly disgusting!
hehe that was me who gave that red :D :mad:
just for fun, but you're cool, so give me one too and we're ok ;)


how did you get to see all your previous reps though?
I though you can only see the last 5..? :rolleyes:

[Colleen]

hehe that was me who gave that red :D :mad:
just for fun, but you're cool, so give me one too and we're ok ;)


how did you get to see all your previous reps though?
I though you can only see the last 5.?

See.... :)
The rep graphic is screenshots pasted together. That's it, that's all.

[Lpspider]

I suspect this wasn't more red simply because of the new rep "cost" rule.

[Michael_Goldman]

See.... :)

well, so did you just collect all your reps every day..?


hope you're not very angry , last thing I want is to make a fighter for justice mad at me because of some stupid rep :D

[Colleen]

well, so did you just collect all your reps every day..?


hope you're not very angry , last thing I want is to make a fighter for justice mad at me because of some stupid rep :D
Don't be silly. I'm not mad, but you should be punished. :D I can't give rep right now. :)

I just screenshot them and paste them into the exisiting ones and keep adding to it.

[maldives]

I just screenshot them and paste them into the exisiting ones and keep adding to it.
There should be more than 01 page full of reps from this thread alone :D :D

[Michael_Goldman]

so can we all now like forget about all the reppy things and be friends again like in old times? :D

[noppid]

The vBulletin (http://www.cpurigs.com/) Rep system is half baked and shouldn't even exist in the product to begin with IMO.

Good thread Colleen.

[amitpatel_3001]

:cool: @ I will fight for justice, and I'd do it again :) :) :)
colleen

[Skinny]

Your point is what?

You stood up against the so called bullies. Look at your rep now!

Everyone else can do the same.

Skinny

[GeorgeB.]

Those saying that there is good reason for giving red rep, chances are they are part of the problem this thread is talking about and are just trying to justify it.

If someone makes a spammy post REPORT IT! You know you could just as easily report it and guess what.. something would actually be done about it!

So let's be honest, the reasons people like giving red rep are

A) It's anonymous and they can get away with it.
B) They often KNOW the reason they are giving red rep is bullshit and reporting it will expose that. So instead giving anonymous red rep makes them feel better.

I'm glad to see this new change Shawn and no offense but you've had your head in the sand for a long time over this. This is just a bandaid. The anonimity is STILL the real problem and I haven't seen one... not one... person post in any of the rep threads today saying it's not.

The fact that you are having to work to fix it should tell you all you need to know. I guess I can understand though, suddenly unmasking the anonymous rep would probably cause a lot of new enemies for some people. So should we agree that maybe... just maybe...... it never should have been anonymous in the first place?

Maybe the threat of it possibly one day happening will cause people to act a bit more civil from now on. The fact that you've actually done something and have stated this isn't over kind of leaves that hanging in the air so kudos for that.

[Will.Spencer]

The anonimity is STILL the real problem and I haven't seen one... not one... person post in any of the rep threads today saying it's not.

Anonymity is not a problem. :)

[Moe]

So GeorgeB, IamNed and people like him are just missunderstood right? They don't deserve the bad rep?

[petertdavis]

I don't really think that tinkering will 'fix' rep, the best solution is to get rid of it altogether.

[GeorgeB.]

Ahh... sure there are people like IamNed. Good point...

But for every IamNed I bet can show you at least 10 YART threads and probably 20 members who can take screenshots of undeserved rep from threads where they were simply tryign to participate or ask a question that someone who didn't have their coffee that day felt it "annoyed them".

Wanna take that bet?

If IAmNed had been reported instead of red repped how long do you think he would have lasted?

[Will.Spencer]

1.If rep was not anonymous, then I would rep everyone who redded me. We would just rep each other forever. But actually, no. DP users are smarter than that. People with little rep power would just not red people with more rep than them.

2. If rep was not available, then people would carry on more of their little wars in the threads themselves -- which would reduce thread quality and bore the hell out of everyone.

The best option if you don't like the rep system is to ignore it. If you ignore the rep system, it has no power over you.

[GeorgeB.]

Anonymity is not a problem. :)Thanks Will. You just had to ruin it didn't you :)

The best option if you don't like the rep system is to ignore it. If you ignore the rep system, it has no power over you.I know someone else will say it soim just gonna beat them to it..... "That's easy to say when you have a lot of green rep".


As for your other points. Those are good "theories" They may happen and they may not. What we KNOW is that anonymous rep isn't working now. Would you agree (if not read all the rep threads today :D)

So all I can say is show me a webmaster forum where the rep is NOT anonymous and these problems that you speak of actually exist to a point where it is disruptive.

Having said all that I do ignore rep. Honestly it's not the problem for me. It's seeing others be repped unfairly and it beign done in a cowardly underhanded sneaky anonymous way. I think that is just wrong and that's why Im posting this. Not because I care about my own rep.

[Will.Spencer]

It's not just a theory, it's my plan. If someone reds me, I will red them back. :D

Anyone can have a lot of green. Make intelligent posts. Don't make annoying posts. Wait.

I'm sorry, I just can't see a problem. I was a DP member for almost a year before I knew what those little green bars were.

[GeorgeB.]

Anyone can have a lot of green. Make intelligent posts. Don't make annoying posts. Wait.
Perfect example...

1) You think someone deserves less reputation because something they said "annoys" you? What does it take to annoy you? Is it just you disagreeing with them or is it somethign that breaks the rules? Because if it's a rule breaker doesn't the report button seem like the better choice?

2) Most new people don't get a chance to get to that point without getting rep gang banged. And it's not just newbies. I personally know top notch SEOs and webmasters in general (OK I don't like "know them" know them but know of them :D) that won't come here because of the childish anonymous rep gangs.

[digitalpoint]

As others have pointed out, making rep non-anonymous would make rep even less useful than it is now (and that's saying a lot because it's not terribly useful right now). People will be afraid to rep someone negatively for fear of retaliation (which definitely would happen).

I still think there is potentially some actual value in the reputation system, but it would be more like a small piece of a bigger system that replaces it.

[Will.Spencer]

Is it supposed to be useful? Is it really supposed to be useful? How? Why?

You're a programmer -- what are the design goals for the system?

But seriously Shawn, don't you have work for real customers to do? :)

[Roman]

In a sense you have turned rep points into a currency and we can now buy 1 negative vote to throw at someone for 1 rep point. Why not stock the shelves with other items as well.

Ex: I'd pay 1 rep point to be able to impose a 1 hour smiley ban on a person. (For 1 hour they could not use smilies)

[soul-healer]

This is great change in REP system bring alot confidence out of me. I am afraid to express my thoughts just for a reason that if people dont agree with me i will RED REps because in the start of my jounery i was RED reped for asking questions because i dont have enought knowledge people banged me with RED Reps.

I am here to trade and share my opinion but i cant express because i am afraid of RED reps as it will hurt my selling credibility i just keep my self quite and sit in the corner looking at the thread want to share my thoughts but dont have enough courage to post any thing. Even i get RED REPs for giving FREE phplinkdirectory Categories database the thread 5 Star (it is open and running) and still Get Red Reps the comments i get dont send PM to every one and it is by some senoir member as i lost 6 points.

But now i am happy with this new change it gives alot more confidence and freedom of speach. I would like to thanks Collen Publically for bringing issue
and giving confidence to people like me, as for them moral dignity and credibility is much more important.

PS:As English is not my primary language so if i am not able to explain any thing you can ask again.

[Will.Spencer]

Thank you for that reminder soul-healer.

I agree; I like the new change.

I am worried that it will restrict red repping only to members with lots of rep to spend, but I think we will be OK.

The retroactive aspect was improper, from a purely theoretical angle. You don't change the rules of a game in the middle and make the change retroactive. It's bad game theory. But... who cares? It's just a game. :)

[soul-healer]

Thank you for that reminder soul-healer.



Sir you are senoir member i respect all the senior members out here :) I liked the way you talk with me and also want to thanks you for being so nice.

[Nintendo]

Ex: I'd pay 1 rep point to be able to impose a 1 hour smiley ban on a person. (For 1 hour they could not use smilies)

Oh no!!!! Don't give Shawn any ideas like this!!! I wounder who every one would be giving these types of bans to!! http://www.vgchat.com/images/smilies/bounce3.gif http://www.vgchat.com/images/smilies/bounce3.gif http://www.vgchat.com/images/smilies/bounce3.gif http://www.vgchat.com/images/smilies/bounce3.gif

[ryan_uk]

How can the people posting here put so much effort into a few pixels that are meaningless?? I'll say it again... itrader? That's the real "rep" tool that needs discussion.

If rep bothers you all so much then go and make yourself some green bars in ms paint or photoshop. :rolleyes:

[Will.Spencer]

It's not the green bars that count; it's the green pieces of paper. :)

[exam]

Now that's a very wise statement indeed.

[SumitBahl]

See....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Colleen again.



:D ;)

This was an enjoyable thread. Great read.

A question: How come Collens User CP shows so many reps, i thought it only showed last 5 reps recieved for every user???
Is that 'cause she's hot ???? :p ;)

[ryan_uk]

It's not the green bars that count; it's the green pieces of paper. :)
Exactly (but maybe not in the way you meant?). It sounds like at least 1 person lost some green pieces of paper to the person who started this thread (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=65659). If the usage of itrader was encouraged people would be less-likely to end up dealing with people of dubious character.

[Moe]

Ahh... sure there are people like IamNed. Good point...

But for every IamNed I bet can show you at least 10 YART threads and probably 20 members who can take screenshots of undeserved rep from threads where they were simply tryign to participate or ask a question that someone who didn't have their coffee that day felt it "annoyed them".

Wanna take that bet?

If IAmNed had been reported instead of red repped how long do you think he would have lasted?

No, I don't want to take that bet. I am sure there are those who abused the rep system. I just had issue with you saying:

"Those saying that there is good reason for giving red rep, chances are they are part of the problem this thread is talking about and are just trying to justify it."

Because there are plenty of legit reasons for giving out negative rep.

Do you know how often IamNed was reported? I know that I reported a several of his comments. Someone can be a total dick but it may not be a banable offense which is where the rep system can come in handy.

[westhaven]

well said colleen we must appreciate your words :)

[Colleen]

It seems I made one huge mistake in the first post of this thread and that was using plural on "school yard bullies". Should have been "school yard bully", as it seems we really only had one big bully. I am basing this on my rep seen here, http://www.mystical-twilight.com/dp-rep.gif, mostly everyone has been in agreement with me here and otherwise.

I'd like to thank those who understood where I was coming from. ;)

well said colleen we must appreciate your words :)
Thank you. :)

[exam]

How did you get such a long list? It only shows the last 5 for me.

[soul-healer]

How did you get such a long list? It only shows the last 5 for me.

Did you read all the Posts ?

[Colleen]

How did you get such a long list? It only shows the last 5 for me.
Copy and paste screenshots. I only see 5 at a time as well.

[Mong]

Colleen very valid points. :)
Coolleen :)

[Colleen]

lol, thanks Mong. :)

[exam]

Well, congrats, that's a lot of rep in 2 days.

[maldives]

Well, congrats, that's a lot of rep in 2 days.
That is what happens on the justice day :p Colleen is a real winner ;). Colleen is well known for starting popular thread such as "The person above you", "Yes you should all be ashamed", etc :D :D

[Nintendo]

Nice rep!!! Forget da 'Queen of da Wackos' title, you're da 'Queen of Geting Green'!!! 12 days with no rep, then you get bombed with it!!!!! :D:D

I like the one where some one tried to give you red and said 'This was worth the -1 rep'...and it didn't even take any rep away from you but only hurt him/her/it!!!! :D:D

How did you get such a long list? It only shows the last 5 for me.

Take a look at the line going down. Notice it doesn't match!!!!

[sji2671]

It seems I made one huge mistake in the first post of this thread and that was using plural on "school yard bullies". Should have been "school yard bully", as it seems we really only had one big bully. I am basing this on my rep seen here, http://www.mystical-twilight.com/dp-rep.gif, mostly everyone has been in agreement with me here and otherwise.

I think you have obviously made a very fair/good point which a lot of people agree with, I dont think however you should be making your rep public like that as it is a private matter, if someone gives you green and leaves a comment they probably would not expect to see their comments publically displayed?

[Michael_Goldman]

omg stop this madness

[williamjack]

Well said Colleen i appreciate your words.

[SEbasic]

http://www.mystical-twilight.com/dp-rep.gifWell, at least we now know that Blogmaster is posting on the forum, even if under a different user name :/

'you're the woman - md'

Busted... Haha

[Crazy_Rob]

Well, at least we now know that Blogmaster is posting on the forum, even if under a different user name :/

'you're the woman - md'

Busted... Haha

I think that's mdvaldosta (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/member.php?u=9625).

[GRIM]

I think that's mdvaldosta (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/member.php?u=9625).
Damn you're quick!!!
I hope that's now what your wife tells you as well....:p

[Crazy_Rob]

Damn you're quick!!!
I hope that's not what your wife tells you as well....:p

The opposite- she begs for mercy! :p :p :eek:

[SEbasic]

I think that's mdvaldosta.Damn, I thought I'd been real smart then...

Either way, how can I view a list of my reps that big?

[Crazy_Rob]

Either way, how can I view a list of my reps that big?

You can't. Colleen is "photoshopping" them all together.

[exam]

All the rep is in the DB anyways, vB should let us see it all.

[Michael_Goldman]

All the rep is in the DB anyways, vB should let us see it all.
if you can guess the right query, sql is easy to hack ;)

[Colleen]

Nice rep!!! Forget da 'Queen of da Wackos' title, you're da 'Queen of Geting Green'!!! 12 days with no rep, then you get bombed with it!!!!!

I like the one where some one tried to give you red and said 'This was worth the -1 rep'...and it didn't even take any rep away from you but only hurt him/her/it!!!!

Take a look at the line going down. Notice it doesn't match!!!!
Wow, Ninno saying something positive to his Queen?? :eek: I thought the -1 rep comment was funny as well, lol.

I think you have obviously made a very fair/good point which a lot of people agree with, I dont think however you should be making your rep public like that as it is a private matter, if someone gives you green and leaves a comment they probably would not expect to see their comments publically displayed?
I thought of this ahead of time, but when I posted it there was only the first 5 and people could have asked me to remove their name, others repped me after knowing I was showing the rep and still put in their name, that to me means they must not care. I don't expect everyone to agree. I will happily blur out anyone's name if they want. I originally posted it to prove a point that the bullies give out red for no good reason, but to my surprise that hardly happened. I think it's a good thing for everyone to see for some reason. Don't give me rep or leave your name, simple. :)
omg stop this madness
Agreed!
Well said Colleen i appreciate your words.
Thank you. :)
Well, at least we now know that Blogmaster is posting on the forum, even if under a different user name :/

'you're the woman - md'

Busted... Haha
I thought of Mike Dammann right away too, then wondered why he'd do that, and it did give a lot of points, but I guess it could have still been mdvaldosta.
The opposite- she begs for mercy!
Does this tie in with candy at all? :o

[exam]

if you can guess the right query, sql is easy to hack ;)
Huh? I wouldn't have to guess at the query, but you think you can hack Shawn's DB servers?

[J.P]

I can see the point being brough out in this thread, at first I was a litle worried about posting anywhere incase people red-repped me but that didn't last long.

On checking my rep I'm now in the gray. I gotted red-repped off someone from a thread I've never actually posted on (odd as it may seem) but hey thats life, it's still going on and I'm still learning something new everyday which is why I joined DP at the end of the day.

Maybe people should not take the rep system to much to heart and just concentrate on building good web sites and hopefully earning some money?

[Lpspider]

I'd like to see how to display that much rep as well.

[Nintendo]

I'd like to see how to display that much rep as well.

It doesn't. You have to take a screen shot of every five reps and combine them!!!!!

[soul-healer]

These kind of questions that have already been answered .. If some one asked before this Rep System changed he/she will be bombed with RED Reps the comments are rather read the full post in the thread or first read thread before asking dump question ...

This is good for newbies :) i love the new change.

[yo-yo]

I'm late... but I agree with colleen 100%

I've had a single person (or 2-3 of them) tracing my "non general chat/political" posts down to make sure when they red rep me for my political posts, it counts as red instead of neutral.

Normally I wouldn't care, but it has been going on by the same person (or 2-3 people) every 24-48 hours for probably 2-3+ months.

[maldives]

I've had a single person (or 2-3 of them) tracing my "non general chat/political" posts down to make sure when they red rep me for my political posts, it counts as red instead of neutral.
Ooops, I thought GC politcal section reps are always neutral :confused:

[Michael_Goldman]

Huh? I wouldn't have to guess at the query, but you think you can hack Shawn's DB servers?
I'm not a hacker ;)

[Moe]

Ooops, I thought GC politcal section reps are always neutral :confused:

They are, I think yoyo is saying that they would find a post by him in a different section, one that counts, so that they can give him rep where it hurts.

[GRIM]

They are, I think yoyo is saying that they would find a post by him in a different section, one that counts, so that they can give him rep where it hurts.
They are not always neutral... unless something recently changed?...

senior members with rep power do a small amount of rep change green or red in gc

[Will.Spencer]

I've had a single person (or 2-3 of them) tracing my "non general chat/political" posts down to make sure when they red rep me for my political posts, it counts as red instead of neutral.

I think that happens to all of us. I know it happens to me regularly.

They key is to either:

1. Post less in general chat/politics - i.e. GET BACK TO WORK!
-or-
2. Whine less.

[maldives]

They are, I think yoyo is saying that they would find a post by him in a different section, one that counts, so that they can give him rep where it hurts.
Thanks Moe, yo-yo is absolutely right.

[yo-yo]

Ooops, I thought GC politcal section reps are always neutral :confused:

They are. Someone who dislikes my political views has been going to my posts made outside of GC/Political to make sure when they red rep me, it counts as red. :cool:

Once again, no biggie, I really don't care about rep much since we have iTraders. However it's annoying to see the same anonymous person constantly abusing rep every 24-48 hours, for months on end, simply because my political views are different than theirs. Rather childish, and dangerously obsessive. In fact... I might call this person, a stalker. :D

PS: Thanks to those of you who left me a comment, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one with a stalker ;)

[emil2k]

Haha...

This pretty messed up thread, but it reminds me of what this fryman did to me a couple of months ago when I first came to DP...

In this thread (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=33237&highlight=predicted+PR6+site) I asked pretty much to evaluate the price of a site that should be a PR6...

And this fryman guy out of nowhere just kept on pushing the fact that it was just a predicted amount, eventhough people like mightyb, biddoug, and others were nice this fryman kept on popping out everywhere with his negative remarks that in reality had nothign with evaluating a hypothetical situation. I'm just saying that thread was kind of like a turn off to me about DP members and I could see how someone might easily just leave because of that and not come back.

BTW: Fryman, a week after that thread the site did become a PR6 and stilll is :cool:

http://i3.tinypic.com/vy0art.jpg
:D :D

[ryan_uk]

FFS, enough ... what's this? bash Fryman threads? I'm getting sick of reading posts knocking him. get over some pixels, guys & girls! And frankly I can see nothing wrong with the posts by fryman in that thread. His point was valid. If you don't want opinions then don't post asking for them! You might not like his, but he's entitled to them, as you're entitled to yours. Not a reason to bash him.

Move on, people!

[GRIM]

FFS, enough ... what's this? bash Fryman threads? I'm getting sick of reading posts knocking him. get over some pixels, guys & girls! And frankly I can see nothing wrong with the posts by fryman in that thread. His point was valid. If you don't want opinions then don't post asking for them! You might not like his, but he's entitled to them, as you're entitled to yours. Not a reason to bash him.

Move on, people!
so those who are sick of him doing what he did get yelled at by you for stating it...

hmmmm another one worth -1 in my opinion...

Yeah I'm an ass i can admit it, but wow you are off base IMO...

Someone constantly rips others apart, and when some of those post about it the 'asshole' has a few rejects run to side...To damn funny to me..

[emil2k]

FFS, enough ... what's this? bash Fryman threads? I'm getting sick of reading posts knocking him. get over some pixels, guys & girls! And frankly I can see nothing wrong with the posts by fryman in that thread. His point was valid. If you don't want opinions then don't post asking for them! You might not like his, but he's entitled to them, as you're entitled to yours. Not a reason to bash him.

Move on, people!
Sure man ;) . I'm way over it but it doesn't change the fact that his an ass.

Also you got to consider that sometimes opinions are not wanted, specially from people who are constantly negative.

[maldives]

Sure man ;) . I'm way over it but it doesn't change the fact that his an ass.

Also you got to consider that sometimes opinions are not wanted, specially from people who are constantly negative.

I can not be that polite :D :D :D

[Will.Spencer]

For me, it all boils down to this: Do posts of that nature make DP a better place?

It seems to me that many of the posts in question drive off new DP members, including some members that we want to keep.

It is a difficult line. You actually do sometimes want to drive off the weak and the slow members. :D

[ryan_uk]

so those who are sick of him doing what he did get yelled at by you for stating it...

hmmmm another one worth -1 in my opinion...

Yeah I'm an ass i can admit it, but wow you are off base IMO...

Someone constantly rips others apart, and when some of those post about it the 'asshole' has a few rejects run to side...To damn funny to me..
Yeah, off base in your opinion, maybe! We're all entitled to one and I respect that, whatever it is. But it's all becoming a bit stupid, like everyone wants to try and rub his face in it... because of his alleged "bullying", isn't the saying something like "the pot calling the kettle black"?

and this "hmmmm another one worth -1 in my opinion..." (which you actually did :D) makes you no better than you think he was.

[maldives]

For me, it all boils down to this: Do posts of that nature make DP a better place?
No not at all, that is infact making things worse :o :o

Yeah, off base in your opinion, maybe! We're all entitled to one and I respect that, whatever it is. But it's all becoming a bit stupid, like everyone wants to try and rub his face in it... because of his alleged "bullying", isn't the saying something like "the pot calling the kettle black"?

I don't think you read the whole thread :confused: Did you read the posts from all the frustrated members?? From seniors to juniors??

Did you ever realize why the rep system was changed?? and the reasons behind the change??

[devin]

honestly i didn't read through all 8 pages. we sometimes drive off new members because of the rep. most new ones don't understand the rep thing (myself included) and they learn it the hard way.

[ryan_uk]

For me, it all boils down to this: Do posts of that nature make DP a better place?

It seems to me that many of the posts in question drive off new DP members, including some members that we want to keep.

It is a difficult line. You actually do sometimes want to drive off the weak and the slow members. :D
It's funny you should mention this. I just read DP for a while because to be honest it didn't seem the friendliest place. Look at how many threads I've actually started... 3 in total, I believe, because I didn't want to be flamed, because maybe my questions were stupid.

if I'm a reject because I think bullying is low and moronic, even towards someone who allegedly bullied others then fine. that's exactly the kind of reason I was hesitant posting at DP. it's like being back at school... :rolleyes:

[GRIM]

@ Ryan please think before you type..
#1 I did give you red as I feel you did deserve it... You're against bullying but you're trying to protect the bully...:rolleyes:..

It's nothing like what Fryman did..I said I was going to, I signed it, and it was a good reason IMO...

I didn't go around to every yart and bitch and whine about how dumb they were, and red every person in them, etc, etc, etc...

I'll quit there, but do yourself a favor and think before you type...

[ryan_uk]

@ Ryan please think before you type..
#1 I did give you red as I feel you did deserve it... You're against bullying but you're trying to protect the bully...:rolleyes:..

It's nothing like what Fryman did..I said I was going to, I signed it, and it was a good reason IMO...

I didn't go around to every yart and bitch and whine about how dumb they were, and red every person in them, etc, etc, etc...

I'll quit there, but do yourself a favor and think before you type...
I'm not trying to "protect the bully". Maybe you are one of the lucky ones and have never been on the end of bullying. Good for you then, you never want to be. Just because a bully gets "neutered/taken down a peg" doesn't mean it's ok to rub their face in it back. Makes us the same as them. So because someone doesn't like bullying in general, never mind who it's against, that makes them a reject? Great. Thank you for your opinion.

[emil2k]

if I'm a reject because I think bullying is low and moronic, even towards someone who allegedly bullied others then fine. that's exactly the kind of reason I was hesitant posting at DP. it's like being back at school... :rolleyes:

I think you missed the point man, you are pretty much saying that is low and moronic for people to stand up for themselves, I'm sorry but I disagree with you...
Any person with any backbone at all would retaliate, it is not about being mature, sometimes some people need a reality check otherways they live in false understanding that what they are doing is right, it is not bullying it is more like punishement...

So basically you are saying hypothetically...
If a guy robs me day after day, it would be low and moronic for me to one day to say no more and beat his ass into the ground...

You compare it to school but you fail to recognize that this is basically universal in all things, people get tired of taking shit...

[GRIM]

@ Ryan I must admit in the real world I'm not the type of guy who 'gets' bullied, online bullies would more than likely shit their pants before daring to mess with me..Not trying to act tough, just the truth..

@ Emil...thank you, said it better than I could...;)

[maldives]

ryan, tell me why do you think Shawn decided to change the rep sysytem? Do you know any reason?

[Michael_Goldman]

Ryan, you do seem taff in your avatar, if it's you of course.. russian maffia? :D

[jabb]

This forum has nearly as many whiney bitches as ebaumsworld forum :)

[ryan_uk]

@ Ryan I must admit in the real world I'm not the type of guy who 'gets' bullied, online bullies would more than likely shit their pants before daring to mess with me..Not trying to act tough, just the truth..
Then you're a lucky.. I got it even worse for when I stood up for myself, but I never stopped trying to do so. I know how bad it feels to be bullied and I empaphise with anyone who was bullied, but this situation is alleged, i.e. we all know fryman gave out a lot of reds because Shawn publicly showed how many, but the fact is we don't know who to and probably never will, it's speculation.

I think you missed the point man, you are pretty much saying that is low and moronic for people to stand up for themselves, I'm sorry but I disagree with you...
Any person with any backbone at all would retaliate, it is not about being mature, sometimes some people need a reality check otherways they live in false understanding that what they are doing is right, it is not bullying it is more like punishement...

So basically you are saying hypothetically...
If a guy robs me day after day, it would be low and moronic for me to one day to say no more and beat his ass into the ground...

You compare it to school but you fail to recognize that this is basically universal in all things, people get tired of taking shit...
it's not low or moronic for people to stand up for themselves, I wrote bullying is. These are two different issues. For some reason, there seem to be posts in both threads on the rep topic keep knocking him and to me that isn't standing up to someone, and I don't like to see it happen to anyone. Sorry, but in the thread all I saw is he asked what it means and where sites at that pr are for sale at x price. I'd ask the same and maybe this makes me an asshole but predicted pr... well, I only found out what this is recently (maybe 3 weeks ago although apparently this isn't available from google any more?), definitely didn't know in October last year, never been that bothered with search engine stuff before but realised that nowadays it's much more important (not like back in 97/98, not sure if PR existed then, when I first started making sites, although just for fun), so I'd probably ask what predicted pr, although it might be a silly newbie question,... and his other one he asked where such sites for sale, I'd have wanted to know out of curiousity too - the more information I can get on a subject the better, as then I can learn more. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm really sorry, but I don't see how those two questions were pushing it. if he'd been abusing you then fair enough but he seemed to just ask 2 valid questions. after you kindly answered his questions he wrote no more.

[debunked]

I am so ashamed - off to give colleen a red..........

[exam]

I am so ashamed - off to give colleen a red..........
Getting back to the topic at hand.... :)

[ryan_uk]

ryan, tell me why do you think Shawn decided to change the rep sysytem? Do you know any reason?
To be honest, I don't know why it stays. It seems of no value before and no value now. There is another tool which seems a lot more pointful: itrader.

itrader seems of potential value before and still seems so now... and if you look in b/s/t and also s/f you'll notice posts by people ripped off. :( To me this is where some effort in posting is needed and might be good encourage to Shawn for change... I started a thread on it in s/f and well maybe it's because I'm a newbie making a thread or just no-one is interested in discussing itrader and how it can be improved. This is a shame, its use should definitely be encouraged in trade and I'm sure there are lots of cool things that can be done with it and it's more important to know if someone's good to deal with rather than the blob(s) (green/red/grey) that's below the number of posts someone has.

Ryan, you do seem taff in your avatar, if it's you of course.. russian maffia?
hehe, tux is cool ... he'd probably kick my arse.

[Notting]

I'm not ashamed because fundermentally i'm quite a nice person. Although am having battles with my girl at the moment so maybe i'm not. :(

[exam]

You know she's right, just give in.

[emil2k]

it's not low or moronic for people to stand up for themselves, I wrote bullying is. These are two different issues. For some reason, there seem to be posts in both threads on the rep topic keep knocking him and to me that isn't standing up to someone, and I don't like to see it happen to anyone. Sorry, but in the thread all I saw is he asked what it means and where sites at that pr are for sale at x price. I'd ask the same and maybe this makes me an asshole but predicted pr... well, I only found out what this is recently (maybe 3 weeks ago although apparently this isn't available from google any more?), definitely didn't know in October last year, never been that bothered with search engine stuff before but realised that nowadays it's much more important (not like back in 97/98, not sure if PR existed then, when I first started making sites, although just for fun), so I'd probably ask what predicted pr, although it might be a silly newbie question,... and his other one he asked where such sites for sale, I'd have wanted to know out of curiousity too - the more information I can get on a subject the better, as then I can learn more. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm really sorry, but I don't see how those two questions were pushing it. if he'd been abusing you then fair enough but he seemed to just ask 2 valid questions. after you kindly answered his questions he wrote no more.

Yeah I don't think you don't understand discussion, we were not discussing whether bullying was right, you claimed people were bullying him and I explained to you they weren't they were just standing up for themselves, and then you comeback to me and say I'm not supporting bullying? Your a little off track, no one here is supporting bullying.

In my situation I was a n00b and knew very little about PR and how it effects the price of the site, basically what I took the wrong way was that before the second post where he asked for the links to the auctions where the sites where sold for a lot just because of PR he red repped me, which at that point knowing not a lot about the forum I took as a slap in the face an pretty disrespectfully, I guess you just had to be in my shoes - and at this moment I would have not reacted to him that way but the thing at this point I wouldn't ask that question - thats what this thread is about having a little more pacience with people who are starting out, if you don't want to help then don't, there are plenty others who will.

Anyways this thread is getting pretty annoying and I don't want to argue with you because eventually it would lead me to being a bully in a sense, as I'm not that patient :cool:

*Unsubscribing to thread* Will not respond ;)

[commandos]

One nice day a visitor comes to Digital Point and signs up. They're now a new member of this forum. Everything's fine BUT lo and behold they ask the wrong question somewhere, or say something COMPLETELY normal, which some assclown doesn't like, well let's give them some red rep for it.


This is so true :) exactly what happened to me .

i was new here and i was just to strict on other (dident know how it goes here)

posted about red , finished by getting more :)

The only why i did care about it was because i couldnt post in other categories (like sales and ...)

but other than that i know my self :p no one mess with me hehe (who want to give me more red ? )

[ryan_uk]

In my situation I was a n00b and knew very little about PR and how it effects the price of the site, basically what I took the wrong way was that before the second post where he asked for the links to the auctions where the sites where sold for a lot just because of PR he red repped me, which at that point knowing not a lot about the forum I took as a slap in the face an pretty disrespectfully, I guess you just had to be in my shoes - and at this moment I would have not reacted to him that way but the thing at this point I wouldn't ask that question - thats what this thread is about having a little more pacience with people who are starting out, if you don't want to help then don't, there are plenty others who will.
fair enough, I know it's not nice when an idiot decides to abuse someone, or click bombs their site, for not knowing about x topic or not being able to read their mind... sometimes one doesn't know if one's going to learn a lot from DP or just end banned from whatever cpc advertising program one's using because of some marauding moron didn't like a post.

[Notting]

You know she's right, just give in.

re: me vs girl friend type 1 arguement

erm.....*ponders......

Here are my options i think:
1) Be mature. Come to the sensible conclusion that it waspartly my fault and partly hers. Sort things out. :o

2) Get mad. Continue to argue with her....forever, because like me she wont give in. End up splitting up. :mad:

3) Concede that she was in the right. Buy her flowers. :rolleyes:

4) Buy her flowers (whilst secretly knowing that I am in the right;) )

I'm still undecided - ive got until tomorrow evening to decide on my strategy. What do you guys think?

Notting

[Halobitt]

Here are my options i think:
1) Be mature. Come to the sensible conclusion that it waspartly my fault and partly hers. Sort things out. :o

2) Get mad. Continue to argue with her....forever, because like me she wont give in. End up splitting up. :mad:

3) Concede that she was in the right. Buy her flowers. :rolleyes:

4) Buy her flowers (whilst secretly knowing that I am in the right;) )

I'm still undecided - ive got until tomorrow evening to decide on my strategy. What do you guys think?

Notting
Depends on what outcome you want, Notting.

"You didn’t come here to make the choice. You’ve already made it. You’re here to try to understand why you made it."
Oracle, Matrix

[exam]

re: me vs girl friend type 1 arguement

erm.....*ponders......

Here are my options i think:
1) Be mature. Come to the sensible conclusion that it waspartly my fault and partly hers. Sort things out. :o

2) Get mad. Continue to argue with her....forever, because like me she wont give in. End up splitting up. :mad:

3) Concede that she was in the right. Buy her flowers. :rolleyes:

4) Buy her flowers (whilst secretly knowing that I am in the right;) )

I'm still undecided - ive got until tomorrow evening to decide on my strategy. What do you guys think?

Notting
#1 and buy her flowers :smile:

[mcfox]

re: me vs girl friend type 1 arguement

erm.....*ponders......

Here are my options i think:
1) Be mature. Come to the sensible conclusion that it waspartly my fault and partly hers. Sort things out.

2) Get mad. Continue to argue with her....forever, because like me she wont give in. End up splitting up.

3) Concede that she was in the right. Buy her flowers.

4) Buy her flowers (whilst secretly knowing that I am in the right )

I'm still undecided - ive got until tomorrow evening to decide on my strategy. What do you guys think?
Don't admit you are wrong for f***sake! You'll never hear the end of it and any future disagreements will result in the casting up of how wrong you were this time! :eek:

Here's what to do ... buy her flowers (I'm assuming you want to make up) and offer them to her. Just before she can take the bunch from your hand snatch them away, just out of reach. Ask her if she was wrong in your most charming manner possible.

If she goes goo-goo for flowers and romance and all that crap, er, lovey-stuff, then she'll fold and admit she was wrong just to keep the peace ... heh.

You get off the hook and the argument is over.

[Roman]

Knowing what I know now, I'd go for option 2.




If she goes goo-goo for flowers and romance and all that crap, er, lovey-stuff, then she'll fold and admit she was wrong just to keep the peace ... heh.

You get off the hook and the argument is over.


Pretty obvious you are single;)

[exam]

>> Pretty obvious you are single
ROTFL

[TCR]

Here are my options i think:


3) Concede that she was in the right. Buy her flowers. :rolleyes:

4) Buy her flowers (whilst secretly knowing that I am in the right;) )


Notting, Do not EVER buy your girlfriend flowers when you did something wrong. Then all flowers you buy her in the future will always come with a "What did you do?"...;)

Flowers should be reserved for tuesdays, weds, fridays (i.e just becuase).....dont even bother with the flowers as a make up gift.

back on topic tho....

I think Ryan was saying that after Fryman is 'taken down a notch', or 'exposed as a bully' or whatever, fine. But when does it stop? Does he deserve a 'taste of his own medicine', or do you want to call him on his so-called shit to make him aware of what YOU percieve to be negative/hurtful etc actions nd then coexisit in this forum? And at what point do YOU become the so called 'bully'. Ryan was voicing an opposing opinion, a minority view in this thread. THAT IS HIS RIGHT.

I am pretty new here, and I have gotten red reps, and I was a bit miffed at first. But then I realized that is DOES NOT MATTER. You can not make everyone like you, it is impossible.

I can not speak for anyone elses experiance, but I personally have never had a problem with Fryman. If he ever was rude, snide or an a hole to me, I either never noticed it or moved on. I suggest we all do the same.

[Mr Crow]

A simple way is to monitor the TOP red rep givers .. and disable their ability to give red rep for those who abuse it ...

[PedstersPlanet]

And when we do buy them flowers.... then they get suspicious and accuse us of cheating - we can't win lol..... That's why I like being single, less hassle......

[mcfox]

A simple way is to monitor the TOP red rep givers .. and disable their ability to give red rep for those who abuse it ...
I believe that is precisely what Shawn has done but making a "-1 point penalty" for giving red rep. Seems to have worked spectacularly well in some cases.

[Mr Crow]

so if someone spams and I give him a red rep I lose

[SumitBahl]

so if someone spams and I give him a red rep I lose

Thats right!!!! and BTW Good Morning......:D ;)

[rewlie]

I make my way very far to this forum after people at my country, Malaysia rep me easily at the largest IT forum in my county, seems they are very low on knowledge but more to fun fun fun .. hmm no wonder why teenagers around like me in my country, mostly dont know the diff between linux and windows, even they own themself a poweful pc, all for gaming purpose ..

[PedstersPlanet]

so if someone spams and I give him a red rep I lose
You could just ignore it, or even better report it?:D

[GRIM]

You could just ignore it, or even better report it?:D
na...who'd want to do that..?

-1 I like the idea...well worth it,,gotta earn some to burn some...:D

[Mr Crow]

I make my way very far to this forum after people at my country, Malaysia rep me easily at the largest IT forum in my county, seems they are very low on knowledge but more to fun fun fun .. hmm no wonder why teenagers around like me in my country, mostly dont know the diff between linux and windows, even they own themself a poweful pc, all for gaming purpose ..
HUH?

:eek: :eek: <<<< SCRATCHES HEAD

[Halobitt]

^^

Just what I was thinking.
Do you wanna expand on that, Rewlie?

[devin]

Just what I was thinking.
Do you wanna expand on that, Rewlie?unfortunately, even i didn't quite understand it. :o

[Will.Spencer]

so if someone spams and I give him a red rep I lose

Use the "Report Bad Post" button for spam.

Save Reds for eThugs and forum trolls.

[williamjack]

Good way will thanks for letting us know.:)
Use the "Report Bad Post" button for spam.

Save Reds for eThugs and forum trolls.

[exam]

Use the "Report Bad Post" button for spam.

Save Reds for eThugs and forum trolls.
Ha ha I like that.

[Michael_Goldman]

Is anyone except me here giving any more reds..??

[maldives]

Is anyone except me here giving any more reds..??
I don't think you are the only one here :rolleyes: :D

[Michael_Goldman]

ok maldives, glad to know :D

[disgust]

Sucked up to? Hmmm... colleen, you know me well enough to realize that I really don't care about what people think about me, including you, of course.

Sorry to see you getting up the wrong side of the bed, or maybe you just need to go visit this site (http://www.usdoctor.com/pms.htm)...

I am just sick of seeing people crying like babies about their rep... who gives a shit about it? If you get so messed up because of a comment some stranger makes on a forum then you really have some serious issues

they're not sick of the rep itself, they're sick of the xenophobic and condescending attitudes-- as they should be.

I'm usually pretty torn on the idea of rep, but Colleen pretty much summed up how I feel about it at the moment, to be quite honest.

[rewlie]

unfortunately, even i didn't quite understand it. :o

Try to post about adsense and see what they will say, on Malaysian forums, most of them will rep you easily, they would say all that "nonsense!"..

[phd]

One nice day a visitor comes to Digital Point and signs up. They're now a new member of this forum. Everything's fine BUT lo and behold they ask the wrong question somewhere, or say something COMPLETELY normal, which some assclown doesn't like, well let's give them some red rep for it.

New member, not knowing what he did wrong, makes a thread to ask about it. What happens? Other member who should be welcoming, red rep him.

Completely agreed. When I joined , I faces the same things..

[devin]

Try to post about adsense and see what they will say, on Malaysian forums, most of them will rep you easily, they would say all that "nonsense!"..ignore them. bet my horse they're not earning four-figures from adsense either. malaysians, what can you expect? demonstrate that you know more than they do and they'll try all shits to discredit you.

[maldives]

they're not sick of the rep itself, they're sick of the xenophobic and condescending attitudes-- as they should be.

You are absolutely right on this. It is the attitude and the ways newbies were treated.

Colleen you are the queen :)

[timecoderror]

[QUOTE=Colleen] You school yard bullies should be ashamed! /QUOTE]
Colleen, all of us who have been thinking this very thing, bow down to you for this post. We newbies don't know the right questions to ask, and when we ask a "stupid one" and get beat with word clubs it makes us go elsewhere for answers. But having said that, the majority are great people who are patient and offer advice without strings and stings. The losers who respond with bile just enjoy hearing themselves talk.

[Nintendo]

Colleen you are the queen :)

er let me finish that...Colleen you are da Queen of da Intelligent!!! :D:D:D

[Mr Crow]

er let me finish that...Colleen you are da Queen of da Intelligent!!! :D:D:D

I am new to the forum ... and a happily married man ... but from of the sounds of it Colleen is like really hot and all the guys are trying to kiss up to her...

Or she has like alot of power in this forum

So if thats the case....................

Hail Colleen the Beutiful powerful one... Hail Hail

Just teasin ... no offense intended to anyone

[Nintendo]

but from of the sounds of it Colleen is like really hot and all the guys are trying to kiss up to her...

Only thing wrong is that she's after just one guy...the wrong guy!!! grrr!! Look at her post at...

v7n.com/forums/forum-lobby/29087-i-am-queen-da-wackos.html

She's way too intelligent to be my Queen!!! :D:D:D:D

[Colleen]

I am new to the forum ... and a happily married man ... but from of the sounds of it Colleen is like really hot and all the guys are trying to kiss up to her...

Or she has like alot of power in this forum

So if thats the case....................

Hail Colleen the Beutiful powerful one... Hail Hail

Just teasin ... no offense intended to anyone
Lol, that was good. Maybe they're all just afraid or maybe, they all just want to be punished. :p

Only thing wrong is that she's after just one guy...the wrong guy!!! grrr!! Look at her post at...

v7n.com/forums/forum-lobby/29087-i-am-queen-da-wackos.html

She's way too intelligent to be my Queen!!! :D
Oh Wacko one, who do YOU think should be my rightful King? :confused:

side note: Wacko sure seems to like to brag yet refuses my love... :confused:

[stuw]

I'm late... but I agree with colleen 100%

I've had a single person (or 2-3 of them) tracing my "non general chat/political" posts down to make sure when they red rep me for my political posts, it counts as red instead of neutral.

Normally I wouldn't care, but it has been going on by the same person (or 2-3 people) every 24-48 hours for probably 2-3+ months.

yep, I've had the same thing - got to be people that know the system

[Nintendo]

Oh Wacko one, who do YOU think should be my rightful King?

You are da Queen of da INTELLIGENT, there for an intelligent strong handsome dude should be your King. You are NOT da Queen of da Wackos!!!! :D

side note: Wacko sure seems to like to brag yet refuses my love... :confused:

grrr!! You're supposed to love a strong, intelligent handsome dude, not some crazy wacko that drives every normal intelligent human insane, not to mention da wacko also collects nasty stuff!!!! :D

u are way 2 pretty and intelligent to even be a wacko, let alone da Queen of da Wackos!!! :D

[Mr Crow]

OK Colleen if I ever ditch my sweet heart and princess (NOT)

I will keep you in mind... ha ha ha .... (like some hunk talk)

Although you may want to make sure he doesnt have like hundreds of pictures and paintings of you ... with alters, candles and stuff .... lol

You guys are funny ... good laugh .. thanks

[Colleen]

OK Colleen if I ever ditch my sweet heart and princess (NOT)

I will keep you in mind... ha ha ha .... (like some hunk talk)

Although you may want to make sure he doesnt have like hundreds of pictures and paintings of you ... with alters, candles and stuff .... lol

You guys are funny ... good laugh .. thanks
:D but he must have a shrine, prerequisite! :)

Wacko - stop stalking me! :D

[Mr Crow]

hmmmmmmmmmmm, please dont tell my wife I gotta make a shrine for her...

I dont need her nagging me until I get it done!

[Nintendo]

Wacko - stop stalking me! :D

WHAT!!!! grrrr!!!! U R following ME every where I go claiming to be my Queen!!! I'm trying to run away from u and scare you away!!! grrrr!!!! :mad:

Guys, if you got some tips for me, teach me how to make a chick not like you, pwetty pweze!!!!! sitetutor was da master at driving Colleen insane, but he would never teach me how he did it!! :mad:

[GRIM]

WHAT!!!! grrrr!!!! U R following ME every where I go claiming to be my Queen!!! I'm trying to run away from u and scare you away!!! grrrr!!!! :mad:

Guys, if you got some tips for me, teach me how to make a chick not like you, pwetty pweze!!!!! sitetutor was da master at driving Colleen insane, but he would never teach me how he did it!! :mad:
Grr share some tips on how to attract the lovely C...and maybe us guys who piss her off will share some of our tips...:D

[Mr Crow]

I can give you tips on how to piss women off .... no problem ... seems I am doing that all the time with my wife .. I am a pro pisser

Dang which reminds me .... did I put the toilet seat back down just a bit ago ....

BRB gotta check

[Colleen]

Pro Pisser!! HAHA!

I hate women who whine about a frickin toilet seat, makes me want to take it and smash their heads with it. :D

Wacko be nice, I don't want to have only bad stories to tell our Wacko babies.

[an0n]

simplest way to piss a female off is to 'ignore them'

trust me.

ROb

[Mr Crow]

yeah ecspecially when they are already pissed

[Colleen]

Yep, that's how you get dumped.

Guys, I send the Wacko emails to his pokemon account and he always ignores me. It makes me want him more.

[Nintendo]

Grr share some tips on how to attract the lovely C...and maybe us guys who pi$$ her off will share some of our tips...:D

1. Start collecting nasty stuff.
2. Post nasty pictures and post audio of you singing!! If you sing a love song you'll probably be able to get any chick. If you havn't noticed, Colleens been beging me to sing this song (http://www.world-of-nintendo.com/nintendo/my_music/cheer_up.mp3) to her!! if you do it, she'll fall in love with you..if she hasn't already!!!

You can't do this, but for others, work on ending up a wacko. There, now give me tips!!!!

did I put the toilet seat back down just a bit ago ....

That reminds me, about five years ago I would try to go weeks with out flushing the toilet, even after going #2!!!! er that is until....my mommy walked in da house and went bonkers from the smell!!!!!! :D

Guys, I send the Wacko emails to his pokemon account and he always ignores me. It makes me want him more.

Hello cute guy who never replies to me, I got you your usertitle at V7N, now
you have to come in the Ambassador's forum to see how I did it, luckily I
didn't have to give a BJ to get it... :P

Happy Birthday kisses for my cute pokemon on his birthday!!


grrrrr!!!!!! Luckly those two are da only ones I've got!!!!

[maldives]

That reminds me, about five years ago I would try to go weeks with out flushing the toilet, even after going #2!!!! er that is until....my mommy walked in da house and went bonkers from the smell!!!!!! :D
OMG ha ha ha :D :D :D

[Mr Crow]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeew 2 weeks ...........no way ..............YUK

[SumitBahl]

That reminds me, about five years ago I would try to go weeks with out flushing the toilet, even after going #2!!!! er that is until....my mommy walked in da house and went bonkers from the smell!!!!!!
OMFG, is it really true????:eek: :o

:::::sprays room freshner:::::

[Mr Crow]

1. Start collecting nasty stuff.
2. Post nasty pictures and post audio of you singing!! If you sing a love song you'll probably be able to get any chick. If you havn't noticed, Colleens been beging me to sing this song (http://www.world-of-nintendo.com/nintendo/my_music/cheer_up.mp3) to her!! if you do it, she'll fall in love with you..if she hasn't already!!!

You can't do this, but for others, work on ending up a wacko. There, now give me tips!!!!



That reminds me, about five years ago I would try to go weeks with out flushing the toilet, even after going #2!!!! er that is until....my mommy walked in da house and went bonkers from the smell!!!!!! :D





grrrrr!!!!!! Luckly those two are da only ones I've got!!!!

I better go .. you people are sick I tell you sick sick sick ..... he he

[SumitBahl]

I better go .. you people are sick I tell you sick sick sick ..... he he

On your way out please close the toilet door, its stinking pretty badly here. :D ;)

[Colleen]

Nintendo must not have a sense of smell.

[Mr Crow]

Or not have a sense of something .... maybe just not smell

[Colleen]

Right, he has no sense at all.

[Nintendo]

is it really true???

Oh yes. Back then I also went poop just once a week, vs two or three times a day now!!! But when my mommy walked in...oh, it was REALLY nasty!! It was like the toilet was pluged up!!!! I'm guessing I had probably gone a month with out flushing it!!!! :D

heck, if I had my way I would never shower or put on deoderent. (I put on deodorant every three weeks, and shower twice a week.) :D

Nintendo must not have a sense of smell.

BINGO!!! Some one could put a one pount poop in front of my nose and I probably wouldn't be able to smell it. Now, after reading all this, are you sure you still want to be my queen!!! :D I'm sure GRIM is MUCH cleaner than me!!! And as da title of this thread says...Yes, you should be ashamed for wanting a dirty wacko like me!!! :D

er what was this thread about again!!!!

[Colleen]

Oh yes. Back then I also went poop just once a week, vs two or three times a day now!!! But when my mommy walked in...oh, it was REALLY nasty!! It was like the toilet was pluged up!!!! I'm guessing I had probably gone a month with out flushing it!!!! :D

heck, if I had my way I would never shower or put on deoderent. (I put on deodorant every three weeks, and shower twice a week.) :D



BINGO!!! Some one could put a one pount poop in front of my nose and I probably wouldn't be able to smell it. Now, after reading all this, are you sure you still want to be my queen!!! :D I'm sure GRIM is MUCH cleaner than me!!! And as da title of this thread says...Yes, you should be ashamed for wanting a dirty wacko like me!!! :D

er what was this thread about again!!!!
GRIM would definitely be a lot cleaner if he's not already, we'd have lots of nice hot showers together.

You really can't smell??

I am ashamed for wanting a dirty wacko like you, but I'm sure I'll get over it.

[SumitBahl]

I am ashamed for wanting a dirty wacko like you, but I'm sure I'll get over it.

That would go in Guinness Book of records as height of compromise. :D :D

Are you sure?? :)

[Nintendo]

I am ashamed for wanting a dirty wacko like you, but I'm sure I'll get over it.