DP Site Design

[Fahd]

Am I the only one that thinks the DP (http://www.digitalpoint.com) website needs a redesign?

It looks so 1999, especially this image http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/title_home.gif

[INV]

Thats the best part :) Its a classic 98-99 Look.

[Nintendo]

I vote for 'No change'!!!!! I got a site that's hardly even changed since 1996!!!

[Shoemoney]

its tough to argue with success

[minstrel]

I got a site that's hardly even changed since 1996!!!
Nintendo, you've got socks, bed linens, and even a box of Shreddies that's hardly even changed since 1996.

[fryman]

Don't forget his dead pet mouse...

[Nintendo]

Da dead mouse went bye bye when I cleaned da area and put all those skulls there!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

http://www.world-of-nintendo.com/nintendo/my_pets/skull_collection.jpg

[digitalpoint]

It works... it's fast. The design needs to be fast and get the job done vs. winning some sort of design award.

[SumitBahl]

i vote for no change as well, old is gold.

Sometimes a new design confuses users and scares them away.

[SEbasic]

It can be fast and get the job done without being ugly. :/

[Notting]

oooohhh cutting SEbasic! lol

For me personally, the best design is the design that his clients appreciate the most

The saga continues....

[Fahd]

Interesting...looks like I'm on my way to getting banned here....

DP Site Design Apr 12th 2006 5:14 am Moron !!!!

[SumitBahl]

Interesting...looks like I'm on my way to getting banned here....

Dont worry, suggesting something wont get you banned. :D ;)

[itsall3]

I've never even looked at the DP site - only this forum. I like the forum ;)

Found the site through google, searched "adsense forum" -- DP is 3rd on list.

[tryme1]

Yeah, I'd never looked at the main site either. It does look a little outdated, but I don't think it matters very much, to be honest.

[Weirfire]

I must admit when I first started using the tools it wasn't fantastically easy to navigate around them but you get used to the layout. I have no doubt in my mind that on the list of things Shawn has to do redesigning the digital point site would be way way down the list.

[Nintendo]

It does look a little outdated.

Take a look at it...

http://www.digitalpoint.com/

That's an understatement!!! It still says..


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That's from March 4...2004

Early last month some one registered here and was shocked that the boards had so much activity from the boards, with them being a few days old... according to the site!!! :D:D:D:D

[rubeina]

It works... it's fast. The design needs to be fast and get the job done vs. winning some sort of design award.
I was thinking of the same thing, it loads so fast, why change it :? I prefer a website that loads in less than 1 sec than to wait for more than 5 secs (with flash and other stuffs)!

[Skinny]

I'm in at the forum mostly. I am not a huge fan of the design, but if it works it works.

Skinny

[NeoGen]

I have to really think hard when was the last time I visited digitalpoint.com.. Always I land directly at forums.digitalpoint.com...

That way if you look at frewebspace site is 1899 ish.... but who cares...the real action and fun is here at forums :D

[TheNetCode]

Take a look at it...

http://www.digitalpoint.com/

That's an understatement!!! It still says..



That's from March 4...2004

Early last month some one registered here and was shocked that the boards had so much activity from the boards, with them being a few days old... according to the site!!! :D:D:D:D


LOL it is only a little behind. I personally like the old design. It is fast and gets the job done. Also easy to find what I am looking for.

[digitalpoint]

It was redesigned about 18 months ago (sorta)... The navigation on the left was changed from individually gif images to just text/CSS. That actually was a necessity because the site was getting so much traffic that the extra 15 or so requests for images per page view was wrecking havoc on the web servers. Also, the few images still there are defined within the CSS file (except for the one for the page title) to eliminate image http hits.

So... if someone wants to take a stab at redesigning it, be my guest... but it would need to be at least as easy to use, it would need to be smaller in size (for example http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ is 7895 bytes) and certainly can't use more images than it does now.

[minstrel]

if someone wants to take a stab at redesigning it, be my guest...
It's always about stabbing with you... :eek:

[Dekker]

could I actually try? I have to admit I enjoy designing sites...even if I don't have any new ones :P

[SEbasic]

Have you got a psd of the logo?

[digitalpoint]

Can't tell you for sure I'll actually use it if you do. :)

Even better, I have an EPS of the logo.

[Dekker]

yeah i know, it'd still be fun to try though.

do we have to use erection difficulty man though?

[SEbasic]

Even better, I have an EPS of the logo.Could I get a copy?

Email or download, whatever. :)

[Dekker]

yeah send me one too

i'll make it so good you'll shit yourself crying

[SEbasic]

i'll make it so good you'll shit yourself cryingI'll do my best not to let that happen with my try :/

[digitalpoint]

Here you go...

[Dekker]

isn't it nice how when you're rich, people will do things for you for free? :P

[SumitBahl]

Shawn, I would take a shot at design as well. Would PM you when i am done. Or maybe post here for public opinion.

[Digital Artist]

it depends upon the everyone choice but it will be better to know what the administrator think about it

[SEbasic]

Are you keen on using all the same fonts?

What's the font on the italic 'Digital Point Solutions' next to the logo, top left?

[digitalpoint]

Beats me...

[TheNetCode]

Why not make the redesign a contest of sorts. Not sure what winner would get, but some type of competition. Something for fun and to see what the members here could come up with. You never know Shawn may find a new look he likes.

[TheHoff]

My friends,

I have travelled into the future. The year 2003 to be exact.

I have brought back with me a website that will change all websites. It is... Digital Point of the 21st Century (http://kzay.com/dp/tools.html)

Page size: 7535 bytes
All images referenced in CSS

[TheNetCode]

My friends,

I have travelled into the future. The year 2003 to be exact.

I have brought back with me a website that will change all websites. It is... Digital Point of the 21st Century (http://kzay.com/dp/tools.html)

Page size: 7535 bytes
All images referenced in CSS

My lord I bow before your wisdom and greatness. Please tell us how to do this for the future of the internet.

[Fahd]

Wow...DP sure has some fanatics...


DP Site Design Apr 12th 2006 11:38 am Don't knock DP
DP Site Design Apr 12th 2006 6:15 am I agree... Moron
DP Site Design Apr 12th 2006 5:14 am Moron !!!!


All you guys doing the new designs, watch out for all the red rep headed your way! :rolleyes:

[chachacallis]

leave the design as it is, its unique(1980)

[Fahd]

Shawn,

You're forgetting some page elements when considering the size of your index page...


URL: http://www.digitalpoint.com
Title: Digital Point Solutions
Date: Report run on Wed Apr 12 16:03:56EDT2006

Total HTTP Requests: 10
Total Size: 65255 bytes

Object type Size (bytes)
HTML: 7984
HTML Images: 50662
CSS Images: 3000
Total Images: 53662
Javascript: 0
CSS: 3609
Multimedia: 0
Other: 0

External Object QTY
Total HTML: 1
Total HTML Images: 5
Total CSS Images: 3
Total Images: 8
Total Scripts: 0
Total CSS imports: 1
Total Frames: 0
Total Iframes: 0

Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 50.78 seconds
28.8K 25.49 seconds
33.6K 21.88 seconds
56K 13.21 seconds
ISDN 128K 4.18 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 0.55 seconds

QTY SIZE# TYPE URL
1 33076 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/main1.jpg
1 9504 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/main2.gif
1 7984 HTML http://www.digitalpoint.com
1 5856 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/title_home.gif
1 3609 CSS http://www.digitalpoint.com/style.css
1 2173 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/title_right.gif
1 1403 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_header_new.gif
1 1080 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_sphere_glow.gif
1 517 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_sphere.gif
1 53 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/ads/pixel-dps-home.gif
10 ^ 65255* Total (^unique objects)

[TheHoff]

He was speaking of the tools page (http://kzay.com/dp/tools.html) at under 8k

[Fahd]

Ah, my misunderstanding! Although the same applies to that page as well...


URL: http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/
Title: Free Webmaster Tools & Search Engine Optimization Tools
Date: Report run on Wed Apr 12 16:14:42EDT2006

Total HTTP Requests: 7
Total Size: 20546 bytes

Object type Size (bytes)
HTML: 7984
HTML Images: 5953
CSS Images: 3000
Total Images: 8953
Javascript: 0
CSS: 3609
Multimedia: 0
Other: 0

External Object QTY
Total HTML: 1
Total HTML Images: 2
Total CSS Images: 3
Total Images: 5
Total Scripts: 0
Total CSS imports: 1
Total Frames: 0
Total Iframes: 0

Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 16.12 seconds
28.8K 8.16 seconds
33.6K 7.02 seconds
56K 4.29 seconds
ISDN 128K 1.45 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 0.31 seconds

QTY SIZE# TYPE URL
1 7984 HTML http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/
1 3780 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/title_tools.gif
1 3609 CSS http://www.digitalpoint.com/style.css
1 2173 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/title_right.gif
1 1403 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_header_new.gif
1 1080 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_sphere_glow.gif
1 517 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_sphere.gif
7 ^ 20546* Total (^unique objects)

[TheHoff]

URL: http://kzay.com/dp/tools.html
Title: Digital Point Tools
Date: Report run on Wed Apr 12 16:19:17EDT2006

Global Statistics
Total HTTP Requests: 5
Total Size: 8579 bytes
Object Size Totals
Object type Size (bytes)
HTML: 5572
HTML Images: 0
CSS Images: 1034
Total Images: 1034
Javascript: 0
CSS: 1973
Multimedia: 0
Other: 0

External Object QTY
Total HTML: 1
Total HTML Images: 0
Total CSS Images: 3
Total Images: 3
Total Scripts: 0
Total CSS imports: 1
Total Frames: 0
Total Iframes: 0

Download Times*
Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 6.85 seconds
28.8K 3.52 seconds
33.6K 3.05 seconds
56K 1.91 seconds
ISDN 128K 0.72 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 0.25 seconds

Page Objects
QTY SIZE# TYPE URL
1 5572 HTML http://kzay.com/dp/tools.html
1 1973 CSS http://kzay.com/dp/dphoff.css
1 903 CSS IMG http://kzay.com/dp/images/dp_s.gif
1 67 CSS IMG http://kzay.com/dp/images/a_r.gif
1 64 CSS IMG http://kzay.com/dp/images/a_d.gif
5 ^ 8579* Total (^unique objects)............ HALF the size of the original tools.html

[Fahd]

www.webpageanalyzer.com :)

[Dekker]

funky my site has HTML: 4085

www.gossiprocks.com

i thought it'd be more than that (and yes I realize the images take up a lot of space, but I haven't optimized them yet :P)

[Lpspider]

I think it's beautiful.

[Fahd]

DP Site Design Apr 12th 2006 4:24 pm Work on your own site! He didn't ask for a review!!
This happens to be the Suggestions & Feedback forum with a description that reads Something you do or don't like? Let us know. This is also the place for questions regarding this forum.

[Shoemoney]

This happens to be the Suggestions & Feedback forum with a description that reads Something you do or don't like? Let us know. This is also the place for questions regarding this forum.

yup and people can also disapprove of your post (that is what rep is for)

[Nintendo]

Tip: Never complain about rep, or they'll bomb you with red!!!

[Shoemoney]

I nominate nintendo for dp redesign !

[SumitBahl]

I nominate nintendo for dp redesign !

If Nino is redoing the website, you might see a dead rat as DP logo and lots a skulls and weird stuff around. :D ;) :)

[Fahd]

yup and people can also disapprove of your post (that is what rep is for)

Although, I would have to agree with the person who left red rep saying "retard" that indeed anyone who gives red rep for a difference in opinion may infact rightly fit that category.

Disclaimer: But that is just my poorly reputed opinion!

[TheNetCode]

If Nino is redoing the website, you might see a dead rat as DP logo and lots a skulls and weird stuff around. :D ;) :)

LOL that might be considered mild by his standards

[just-4-teens]

It works... it's fast. The design needs to be fast and get the job done vs. winning some sort of design award.

this is the same theory i use when i design sites, i dont care about slow loading fancy graphics.

[maldives]

I nominate nintendo for dp redesign !
DP current logo will be replaced with a skull :mad: :mad: :D

[TheNetCode]

DP current logo will be replaced with a skull :mad:

So DP will now stand for DeadPeople....hmmm interesting....:rolleyes: :D

[SumitBahl]

So DP will now stand for DeadPeople....hmmm interesting....:rolleyes: :D

LMAO, Interesting. :D

[maldives]

So DP will now stand for DeadPeople....hmmm interesting....:rolleyes: :D
You got it right :D Digital Point will be just History :mad:

[Nintendo]

A|\|d ev3ry 1hi|\|g \/\/ould b3 1337!!!! :D:D:D:D

[maldives]

A|\|d ev3ry 1hi|\|g \/\/ould b3 1337!!!! :D:D
Translation: I am ready to redesign DP (DeadPeople):mad: :mad:.

[toby]

actually I think should change BUT may not need to be so fantastic with colourfull kind of stuff.

I remember, the first time I came to DP through google, I imediately click Back Button. (well, this is only for MAIN page). However, google always direct me to DP forums for specific keywords, and after sometimes, I decided to become one current member here :)

[TheNetCode]

You got it right :D Digital Point will be just History :mad:

ahh well I will be here even more since I love history.

[redz]

i mostly use the forum, i think switch the forum to the main site lol :).

[SumitBahl]

So... if someone wants to take a stab at redesigning it, be my guest...

I did some work on DP homepage and inner page. I will be happy to do some changes and tweaking if required by the administrator.

I am posting this here for some reviews.

http://www.upyg.com/DPRedsign/DPS_home.gif


http://www.upyg.com/DPRedsign/DPS_home2.gif


http://www.upyg.com/DPRedsign/DPS_inner.gif


http://www.upyg.com/DPRedsign/DPS_inner2.gif

[Skribblez]

Wow, that's great, Sumit! :)

[SumitBahl]

Wow, that's great, Sumit! :)

Thanx Skribblez. :)

[Fahd]

Yeah, looks good! :)

[Cky47]

It bothered me at first, and I even offered to re-design a "quick moving" site for Shawn, but he denied. I guess I can understand why.

Once you get used to something, you dont want to see it change.

I got some spare time, maybe I can toss up something real quick just for fun :)

[TheNetCode]

I like the look Sumit and the fact you have keep it simple to use still. Curious to see what others come up with.

[Cky47]

I dont know lmao, my mind went blank and I didnt know how to finish it, so that it does not look so "cartoonish"...

It may just be because there is no content andI did it in like 5 minutes :)

2775

Oh well, I gotta start packing for trout fishing :)

Maybe I can try another before I leave.

I am so used to being able to make crazt designs like the ones in my sig, this is hard for me.

[digitalpoint]

I did some work on DP homepage and inner page. I will be happy to do some changes and tweaking if required by the administrator.

I am posting this here for some reviews.How many images are you using for that navigation (the border I'm assuming)?

[SumitBahl]

How many images are you using for that navigation (the border I'm assuming)?
Currently i am using 3 images in left navigation, the total size of these images is 2kb in navigation and the main image(header) on homepage is 13kb. I have tried to use minimum images in the design as suggested by you.

Shawn, i can change colors or do some small changes if you want me to.

I would wait for your feedback.

I like the look Sumit and the fact you have keep it simple to use still.

Thanx for the positive response, it was actually a little difficult to design it since the site had to kept simple easy to navigate and on lines with current design and size of the page/image had to be kept low with minimum use of images. So, not much options were available while designing.

[Cky47]

You definately did a good job man... MY only suggestion would be that I think it should be green like the forum.

Lmao everyone should just ignore mine, it is really bad

Anyways, I got to go for my little weekend outing now.

Later...

[SumitBahl]

You definately did a good job man... MY only suggestion would be that I think it should be green like the forum.



I am using currently blue theme for DP forum myself, anyways i can always change the colors if more people suggest. And definitely Shawn would've the final say, its his website after all.:)

[TheNetCode]

I honestly like it Sumit. Have you tested it to see how fast it loads yet.

[SumitBahl]

I honestly like it Sumit. Have you tested it to see how fast it loads yet.

I did not cut the HTML yet, but i am guessing the homepage with the main header image (which itself is 13-14kb) should not be more than 25kb and the inner pages would be close to 10kb.

If that sounds a bit heavy maybe we can do a little tweaking and save 1-2 kb more. Also, size of homepage can be reduced by either removing the header image or maybe use a lighter one.

Shawn, What is the current size of homepage of DP?

[mattmdesign]

According to Fahd:


URL: http://www.digitalpoint.com
Title: Digital Point Solutions
Date: Report run on Wed Apr 12 16:03:56EDT2006

Total HTTP Requests: 10
Total Size: 65255 bytes

Object type Size (bytes)
HTML: 7984
HTML Images: 50662
CSS Images: 3000
Total Images: 53662
javascript: 0
CSS: 3609
Multimedia: 0
Other: 0

External Object QTY
Total HTML: 1
Total HTML Images: 5
Total CSS Images: 3
Total Images: 8
Total Scripts: 0
Total CSS imports: 1
Total Frames: 0
Total Iframes: 0

Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 50.78 seconds
28.8K 25.49 seconds
33.6K 21.88 seconds
56K 13.21 seconds
ISDN 128K 4.18 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 0.55 seconds

QTY SIZE# TYPE URL
1 33076 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/main1.jpg
1 9504 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/main2.gif
1 7984 HTML http://www.digitalpoint.com
1 5856 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/title_home.gif
1 3609 CSS http://www.digitalpoint.com/style.css
1 2173 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/title_right.gif
1 1403 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_header_new.gif
1 1080 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_sphere_glow.gif
1 517 CSS IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/images/toc_sphere.gif
1 53 IMG http://www.digitalpoint.com/ads/pixel-dps-home.gif
10 ^ 65255* Total (^unique objects)

[Cky47]

The whole point of mine was that I could use css to do it. This wat the only image would be the logo. All the rest would be regular colors.

[SumitBahl]

According to Fahd:
Ohhh.. yes i missed that one, so my page would definetely be half the size than current one.

[Cky47]

I had a second before I left, so I tried to compile a litle sample of mine...

http://nanofied.com/projects/dp/

It doesnt work in firefox though, since I did nto get to make it css yet.

That plus it has one of those annoying free host godaddy things at the top.

The size is 6500 bytes (That is even dial up friendly)

That is... if I ever get the css done when I got home.

Not like anyone liked mine anyways...

Oh well, later!

[TheHoff]

Refined a bit...

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/219/dpdemo8kg.gif

[TheNetCode]

Well we are starting to see some nice designs coming in. Cannot wait till Nintendo throws in his. That ought to make it worth the wait. ;) :rolleyes: :D

[Lpspider]

If Nino is redoing the website, you might see a dead rat as DP logo and lots a skulls and weird stuff around. :D ;) :)

Hey, that's not all bad. I like. :D

[ly2]

It can be pretty AND fast.
It's really bad looking, not as nasty as webmasterworld's design, but it's pretty bad lol

[jabb]

I am using currently blue theme for DP forum myself, anyways i can always change the colors if more people suggest. And definitely Shawn would've the final say, its his website after all.
The blue layout looks so much better then the green one, thanks i didnt think you could change it untill i checked after your post.

[Lpspider]

I'm lovin' sumit's design.

[Fahd]

The blue is the default vB blue I believe! I think it looks a little weird with the green buttons/images though.

[EGS]

I don't think the design should be changed, but I think the logos and "page header images" can be drastically changed or improved. :) They're blurry...

[SumitBahl]

I'm lovin' sumit's design.

Thanx for the feedback, till now everybody seems to be okay with my design. Still waiting for the feedback from Shawn.

The blue layout looks so much better then the green one, thanks i didnt think you could change it untill i checked after your post.
Even i prefer the blue theme.