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calum
Mar 8th 2008, 3:29 pm
Hello

I recently bought a PR3 directory. It is a normal directory selling featured and normal links along with banners and other things.

However, it doesn't earn that much yet I have seen several PR3 bidding directories with loads of bids, many of them over $50.

Do you think it would be worth changing to a bidding directory, what is most profitable?

Calum

pipsbank
Mar 8th 2008, 3:33 pm
Normal directory will do better in the face of google
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profitable - normal directory

YMC
Mar 8th 2008, 4:46 pm
Don't be fooled by those bids. Many (not all) bidding directories game their own site by making fake bids. Another method is where one directory owner bids $100 and the receiving directory owner gives it right back in the form of a bid or paid link placement - in the end there's no real money being exchanged.

Your post hasn't been on the forum all that long and I suspect before long the proponents of both sides of this issue will descend. The issue of bid vs not bid has been quite heated here in the past and it might be helpful if you search the old threads a bit and you will see arguments on both sides.

Personally, I think a bidding directory would be harder to make viable now that Google has come down so hard on paid links. I'm also a quality over quantity kinda gal and many bid directories sell their souls to the highest bidder and give little regard to the quality of the site (owner) making the bidding.

hotpop
Mar 8th 2008, 6:59 pm
It's true that bidding directory is more profitable. But normal directory or normal niche directory is better for SERP.

JamieG
Mar 8th 2008, 8:02 pm
Hello

I recently bought a PR3 directory. It is a normal directory selling featured and normal links along with banners and other things.

However, it doesn't earn that much yet I have seen several PR3 bidding directories with loads of bids, many of them over $50.

Do you think it would be worth changing to a bidding directory, what is most profitable?

CalumCan you some us some tangible evidence that the bidding directory is better than the general because I for one don't think they are worth anything. I don't think I need to say anything more than YMC has.

rightit
Mar 8th 2008, 9:12 pm
Normal directory is the best one, but to earn some easy money you can start a bidding directory.

MikeWarrior
Mar 8th 2008, 9:31 pm
Normal directories are better, I seen a site pay for about 1500 dollars worth of links, made to a PR5, but Google reduced the site's rank to PR4, might go down even lower. In all reality, your traffic will come mainly from search engines even second hand search engines at times, but not much in from directories in general. You would also get more traffic from other sites linked to your site that is related to yours. More so than directories. I think the only exception is if your a directory site, you may get more traffic than normal...

mikey1090
Mar 9th 2008, 3:12 am
I'd go with a content rich niche directory, non bid.

Rezo
Mar 9th 2008, 3:13 am
It's alot harder to earn from normal directories. The bidding directory market is limited time, however. Soon it will disappear. So grab a bidding directory ASAP!

xcelent88
Mar 9th 2008, 3:42 am
I will go to Bid Directory :cool:

JamieG
Mar 9th 2008, 5:31 am
It's alot harder to earn from normal directories. The bidding directory market is limited time, however. Soon it will disappear. So grab a bidding directory ASAP!
So are you one of the quick buck crew Rezo, "Grab a bidding directory ASAP". :rolleyes:

scoobby
Mar 9th 2008, 6:48 am
bidding or normal it doesnt matter what matter is to have a quality one ;)

sachin410
Mar 9th 2008, 6:53 am
Purely from earnings point-of-view, bidding directory is better.

Once a bidding directory gets popular, people start competing for positions and this is good for the webmaster...:D.

JamieG
Mar 9th 2008, 7:07 am
Purely from earnings point-of-view, bidding directory is better.

Once a bidding directory gets popular, people start competing for positions and this is good for the webmaster...:D.Absolute rubbish, and take a look at your homepage on your sig, look at how irrelevant the subject matter is with each other, organised chaos at best. Bidding directories are a gimmick and no self respecting seo company would ever submit to them.

sachin410
Mar 9th 2008, 7:11 am
Absolute rubbish, and take a look at your homepage on your sig, look at how irrelevant the subject matter is with each other, organised chaos at best. Bidding directories are a gimmick and no self respecting seo company would ever submit to them.

That's why I said "from earnings point-of-view."

The reward:effort ratio is much better for a bidding directory.

I don't know what self-respecting SEO companies are doing, but I speak for my experience.

Personally, I consider most directories (bidding or not) as tools for SERP manipulation and nothing more.

JamieG
Mar 9th 2008, 7:17 am
That's why I said "from earnings point-of-view."

The reward:effort ratio is much better for a bidding directory.

I don't know what self-respecting SEO companies are doing, but I speak for my experience.

Personally, I consider most directories (bidding or not) as tools for SERP manipulation and nothing more.I've looked at your site, your experience seems to be limited.

sachin410
Mar 9th 2008, 7:31 am
I've looked at your site, your experience seems to be limited.

I am not speaking from my experience as a directory owner.

I am speaking from my experience as a webmaster.

The kind of earnings that sites like bigweblinks.com have generated in such a short time span, are not possible with normal directories.

The owner of bigweblinks has more experience with general directories, but when he added a directory to his blazemp.com, he added a bidding directory and not a general directory.

The bids in the directory (http://www.blazemp.com/dir/) justify his decision. He would never have achieved such earnings with a general directory.

sray
Mar 9th 2008, 9:32 am
You can launch a bidding directory afresh rather than converting a general directory to a bidding one. :)

JasonJan1
Mar 9th 2008, 9:51 am
I had in the past a normal directory with a descent pr.
But because it tooked a lot of time, before I earned something from it,
I've started a bidding directory.

Now so far, I'm very happy with it and I don't see any reason
why I should stop with it :D:D

In fact, I'm in contact now with a designer, to hopefully soon
have a unique template for it :cool:

Greetings from


Jason :)

cool_78
Mar 9th 2008, 10:02 am
I'd go with the bidding directory. You can start earning quicker.

JamieG
Mar 9th 2008, 10:19 am
I am not speaking from my experience as a directory owner.

I am speaking from my experience as a webmaster.

The kind of earnings that sites like bigweblinks.com have generated in such a short time span, are not possible with normal directories.

The owner of bigweblinks has more experience with general directories, but when he added a directory to his blazemp.com, he added a bidding directory and not a general directory.

The bids in the directory (http://www.blazemp.com/dir/) justify his decision. He would never have achieved such earnings with a general directory.I may well be wrong, and I'd love to be but I don't think for a second anyone post PR chasing would EVER pay $1000 + for a link in a link farm that clearly was selling to directory owners http://www.blazemp.com/dir/Directories/ The rest of the categories have 1 or 0 links in them. That's one of the reasons why the directory industry is in the state it is, because of this.

I also think that people falsely claim that they are getting paid $1000 bids etc, and I'm not the only one who thinks this, but as I could probably never prove it I'd just leave this to being an opinion and not a claim.

mikey1090
Mar 9th 2008, 11:04 am
I am not speaking from my experience as a directory owner.

I am speaking from my experience as a webmaster.

The kind of earnings that sites like bigweblinks.com have generated in such a short time span, are not possible with normal directories.

The owner of bigweblinks has more experience with general directories, but when he added a directory to his blazemp.com, he added a bidding directory and not a general directory.

The bids in the directory (http://www.blazemp.com/dir/) justify his decision. He would never have achieved such earnings with a general directory.

He actually said he created a bid directory to utilise the traffic from the main site, as a standard directory wouldn't pass as much traffic through to the listings.

@OP - If you want to make money, don't make a bidding directory. If your directory is a long term project making a bid directory will not be a good idea.

IndianWebMaster
Mar 9th 2008, 11:24 am
Build reputation for your site first. Build traffic. Don't be too obvious with sellig links and later on big revenue will flow in as link sales but behind the scenes so that the Google Uncle doesn't catch you! ;-)

mikey1090
Mar 9th 2008, 12:35 pm
Build reputation for your site first. Build traffic. Don't be too obvious with sellig links and later on big revenue will flow in as link sales but behind the scenes so that the Google Uncle doesn't catch you! ;-)

He asked about directories, not PR/link selling farms.

hyper
Mar 9th 2008, 1:36 pm
the thread sucks. The main question sucks. It's live asking a community : "It is better swimming or diving ?"

The best answer would be : do what you can handle the best. Choose between bidding or simple directory, decide which one you like, decide which one would you prefer as a submitter and begin working, promoting, enhancing. Asking in here this is so...useless.


Thanks,
hyper :mad:

calum
Mar 9th 2008, 3:20 pm
the thread sucks. The main question sucks. It's live asking a community : "It is better swimming or diving ?"

The best answer would be : do what you can handle the best. Choose between bidding or simple directory, decide which one you like, decide which one would you prefer as a submitter and begin working, promoting, enhancing. Asking in here this is so...useless.


Thanks,
hyper :mad:

Hehe, I was just wondering but it seems to have started a discious debate.:eek:

uttoransen
Mar 9th 2008, 11:00 pm
hi calum! how is it going,
bidding directories have good bids because they had promoted it, general directories which are promoted also gets a lot of submission.

With bidding directories you get repeat business, as people increase there bids, in general directories if you have satisfied clients they will change to featured links from regular etc, though the earning opportunity in bidding directories from repeat submitters or bid-ups is more.

If you have bought a general directory then keep it general, no need to change it to something else! just keep promoting it by submitting to other directories, buy forum avaters etc and you will see a lot of submissions coming your way!