What ever happened to Alive directory

malcolm1

Mar 6th 2008, 6:38 am

pipes

Mar 6th 2008, 6:43 am

He still working on his sites but wont bother with this place anymore..

Many of you forgot that if it wasn't for him buying thousands of dollars
worth links and banners daily on most directories HERE most of you wouldn't be around..

As soon as google did its "whatever" people started witch hunts and slandering him
for his directory and so forth... Can ya blame him for not coming back ? Hell NO

thx
malcolm

I see what your saying Malcolm but in all fairness one guy didn't keep the directory world alive, that would be an exageration, it doesn't matter who is not around anyway, thats already been discussed, lets move on from the good ol days, if their your friends then chat to them privately but lets not bore the rest of dp on why a handful of people dont come here anymore.

Its so last year.

malcolm1

Mar 6th 2008, 6:52 am

I see what your saying Malcolm but in all fairness one guy didn't keep the directory world alive, that would be an exageration, it doesn't matter who is not around anyway, thats already been discussed, lets move on from the good ol days, if their your friends then chat to them privately but lets not bore the rest of dp on why a handful of people dont come here anymore.

Its so last year.

ummmm excuse me.... but the question revolved around ALIVE

I told it how it was and you weren't around 6 months ago so you wouldnt know....

YES he would easily spend a few thousand daily and did keep most of these other
directories ALIVE!

PS........ No im not interested playing the debate game with you

see ya
malcolm

pipes

Mar 6th 2008, 6:58 am

ummmm excuse me.... but the question revolved around ALIVE

I told it how it was and you weren't around 6 months ago so you wouldnt know....

YES he would easily spend a few thousand daily and did keep most of these other directories ALIVE!

see ya
malcolm

Nothings ever going to advance though, i wasn't around 6 months ago? :confused:

Its nonsense, you guys are only missing him because he must of pulled back his spending in your own directories.
You would need an ego the size of a house to believe that you kept other peoples businesses alive by your sole spending, its ludicrous.

Minor celebs on the internet, lol, it makes me smile at least.

Edit: Just need to point this little gem out, lol, how us tiny ones, like me are still around, no end of directories are born each day, plenty surviving, yet self proclaimed biggies have dropped off the edge.

More established directories were dumped, few jumped overboard never to be seen again, come back 12months from now and see whos still around through thick and thin.

You aint got the stamina to debate with me.

malcolm1

Mar 6th 2008, 7:05 am

Nothings ever going to advance though, i wasn't around 6 months ago? :confused:

Its nonsense, you guys are only missing him because he must of pulled back his spending in your own directories.
You would need an ego the size of a house to believe that you kept other peoples businesses alive by your sole spending, its ludicrous.

Minor celebs on the internet, lol, it makes me smile at least.

Again you missed the point i was trying to make...

"Most" other directory owners back then would "advertise" on other NEW directories
and directories in general but after that "escapade erupted" most learned not to bother anymore....

Do you see anyone with $1000+ bids anymore on bid directories or a few hundred for that matter? i didnt think so

thx
malcolm

pipes

Mar 6th 2008, 7:12 am

Again you missed the point i was trying to make...

"Most" other directory owners back then would "advertise" on other NEW directories
and directories in general but after that escapade erupted most learned not to bother anymore....

thx
malcolm

Well i agree with that, if anything its done us a favour, less reliance upon one another, although a bit harder to promote now, probably more healthy for us all overall.

malcolm1

Mar 6th 2008, 7:17 am

You aint got the stamina to debate with me.

lmao ...

No i just dont have the time to play the debate game with you today ;)

Dentist appointment :mad: and domains being transfered and .... to much stufffff

laterz
malcolm

pipes

Mar 6th 2008, 7:25 am

lmao ...

No i just dont have the time to play the debate game with you today ;)

Dentist appointment :mad: and domains being transfered and .... to much stufffff

laterz
malcolm

Lol :) busy as ever

mikey1090

Mar 6th 2008, 7:56 am

DP was no longer a place that he needed to come to, so he left.

His blog was full of advice for directory owners, but few listened and still made crap directories.

He still runs the sites as you can see from the latest links.

discover

Mar 6th 2008, 9:13 am

as we see now I dont know how much those who benefited then by those submissions are benefiting now from the backlash from google

(and I think neither chris or jeff should have ever have left. As I said before I think it did them more harm than good)

jhnrang

Mar 6th 2008, 9:26 am

JamieG

Mar 6th 2008, 9:33 am

He still working on his sites but wont bother with this place anymore..
68 Links in his entire directory? Did he have to start from scratch or something? :confused:

dhruv37

Mar 6th 2008, 9:43 am

68 Links in his entire directory? Did he have to start from scratch or something? :confused:

Where you check 68 links man.....they have lots of sites in the directory...they have just more than 68 in just Financial Services section.

Are you checking which directory...

mhamdi

Mar 6th 2008, 10:02 am

What I don't understand is why chris didn't change anything in his network, like the interlinking, removing the reciprocal option,... Is he just ignoring google?

JamieG

Mar 6th 2008, 12:18 pm

Where you check 68 links man.....they have lots of sites in the directory...they have just more than 68 in just Financial Services section.

Are you checking which directory...I was looking at the right directory dhruv, they were either updating or have been busy typing in any old urls, I suspect it was the first. :)

smub

Mar 6th 2008, 12:18 pm

mhamdi

Mar 6th 2008, 12:49 pm

but alive is giving a special price for reciprocal links

JamieG

Mar 6th 2008, 12:54 pm

mhamdi i believe google's reciprocal issue was just an excuse ... We all know and so does Matt Cutts that its a built-in feature even if he doesn't ask for it.

@pipes: I have to agree with Malcolm that directory industry was running mainly because of him. Many people started more and more directories because of Chris. Even if you had a new directory ... no one would submit but Chris would. I didn't see a directory in the new directory section which didn't have chris's link in it ... Either he would be the sponsor of the template, featured links in it, or sitewide. He contributed alot .... In the beginning many directory owners start paid directories because they didn't wanted spam but didn't have deep pockets. It was Chris who submitted links and give you some what of a budget to begin promoting.

He still comes online because him coming online signs pops up in my msn. He just doesn't bother here just like many others who used to come here.All this 'Chris' contributed to is the mess the directory industry is in at the moment smub whether you like to admit it or not. Your making this guy out to be some kind of hero when he wasn't, even though he spent money on links as you said, there was a motive to that and that was to get his PR elevated so he could get his money back tenfold with a high PR. This plan backfired and he's where he is right now because of it.

I don't know this Chris guy personally so wish him no ill will, I would love for him to succeed as I would with anyone. But for goodness sake, stop making the guy out to be some kind of guru saviour for the directory scene, it makes you sound naive.

an0n

Mar 6th 2008, 1:08 pm

mhamdi i believe google's reciprocal issue was just an excuse ... We all know and so does Matt Cutts that its a built-in feature even if he doesn't ask for it.

@pipes: I have to agree with Malcolm that directory industry was running mainly because of him. Many people started more and more directories because of Chris. Even if you had a new directory ... no one would submit but Chris would. I didn't see a directory in the new directory section which didn't have chris's link in it ... Either he would be the sponsor of the template, featured links in it, or sitewide. He contributed alot .... In the beginning many directory owners start paid directories because they didn't wanted spam but didn't have deep pockets. It was Chris who submitted links and give you some what of a budget to begin promoting.

He still comes online because him coming online signs pops up in my msn. He just doesn't bother here just like many others who used to come here.

Even when he had sponsored the template, he would still submit links.

Chris definitely kept this sector financed with the jump-start ability to promote by submitting a lot of his projects, and for pipes to see it otherwise, well, I guess pipes is just plain blind. Anywho, I say let him along his way in his own little world i guess.

Chris still maintains his directories, but also is focusing on his main software. He's also had some PC issues with his raid controller that hindered his online activity for a little bit. The last time I spoke with him he seemed fine, and was just mainly focusing on trying to get his new PC up and running, since he has to upgrade his software to accommodate Microsoft's new Vista.

discover

Mar 6th 2008, 2:42 pm

@pipes: I have to agree with Malcolm that directory industry was running mainly because of him.

it ridiculous to say this
I had submissions from a lot of different people then
certainly there was chris and a few other heavy submitters but to say all directories were running because of him is laughable :rolleyes:

Jarodboy

Mar 6th 2008, 2:51 pm

Too bad Mystikmedia left DP, he really was a cool guy.

malcolm1

Mar 6th 2008, 2:53 pm

@smub

I didnt say he was GOD....lol or the savior of the entire industry :p
( you guys take things to literally )

Only that he helped "many here at DP" with their directories and when the s**t hit the fan all the haters showed their true colors and faces....
(even had one guy comment that he rolled over on his "competitor" at G webmasters which was arcadeforce.com which was one of chris directories )
just because he was above him in the serps... :rolleyes:

Chris didn't need the back-links he did it to help others as new directories had nothing really to offer him...
and he STILL has more back-links then most directories.... over 1 million in yahoo

thx
malcolm

mhamdi

Mar 6th 2008, 3:01 pm

pipes

Mar 6th 2008, 3:06 pm

mhamdi i believe google's reciprocal issue was just an excuse ... We all know and so does Matt Cutts that its a built-in feature even if he doesn't ask for it.

@pipes: I have to agree with Malcolm that directory industry was running mainly because of him. Many people started more and more directories because of Chris. Even if you had a new directory ... no one would submit but Chris would. I didn't see a directory in the new directory section which didn't have chris's link in it ... Either he would be the sponsor of the template, featured links in it, or sitewide. He contributed alot .... In the beginning many directory owners start paid directories because they didn't wanted spam but didn't have deep pockets. It was Chris who submitted links and give you some what of a budget to begin promoting.

He still comes online because him coming online signs pops up in my msn. He just doesn't bother here just like many others who used to come here.

:) Id be embarrased if i had people speaking about me in that way, ive not read something so crazy in a long term, i know why you blow smoke, but your wasting that smoke now if you know what i mean ;) ive got 4 directories and since ive settled last year ive stuck with 4, i personally had not seen a lot of the members names on dp before using the directory section of the forums so was completely unaware of most people.

Regarding no one submitting but the one guy, not strictly true, a handful of others did too, dont really need to mention names.

Not saying he didn't contribute, thats an obvious and clear fact, he gave good business, he didn't brag about spending, seemed polite, but he wasn't holding the whole thing together, i mean c'mon, Chris, if or when you read this "you were not keeping alive the whole directory industry" someones gotta say it, i dont even think the guy thinks this, i think its only said for him.

Anyway, enough on a guy whos not here anyway.

Il be interested to see who still owns a directory this time next year, personally i think it will be a rather different landscape.

pipes

Mar 6th 2008, 3:13 pm

Even when he had sponsored the template, he would still submit links.

Chris definitely kept this sector financed with the jump-start ability to promote by submitting a lot of his projects, and for pipes to see it otherwise, well, I guess pipes is just plain blind. Anywho, I say let him along his way in his own little world i guess.

Chris still maintains his directories, but also is focusing on his main software. He's also had some PC issues with his raid controller that hindered his online activity for a little bit. The last time I spoke with him he seemed fine, and was just mainly focusing on trying to get his new PC up and running, since he has to upgrade his software to accommodate Microsoft's new Vista.

Its cool Anon, im happy in my world :) and im still here, i stay quite realistic and dont expect everday to be easy thats why since last year ive argued for directories and their reputation when most cant be bothered to.

mikey1090

Mar 6th 2008, 3:13 pm

it ridiculous to say this
I had submissions from a lot of different people then
certainly there was chris and a few other heavy submitters but to say all directories were running because of him is laughable :rolleyes:

Of course not, but people would launch directories expecting his support. Someone would throw phpLD on a new domain, say they were going to promote it "heavily" and give other details like their unique template that was on the way. They would have regular links set at around $20, featured at $40. Chris would submit at least 20 sites usually. Therefore people would make $400 - $800 within their first days of being launched. Then when the directory was cached and they soon realised their $400 from Chris wasn't going to last long they went straight to sitepoint. They claimed to not have enough time to run the directory. After banking the $1500 from the sale, they'd turn to their mates and laugh at how easy it was. Basically Chris made a lot of kids have the ability to buy some cool toys.

This wasn't just normal directories. The bid directory owners benefited heavily, probably more. And yes, before someone mentions it, I was one of those that recieved a lot from him. More than enough to buy a cool car from what he bidded on ZL. Whilst going slightly off topic, I didn't buy a car. I reinvested it all in another directory. Needless to say I am very grateful for what he did.

It got to the point where he was no longer needed around this forum. Unfortunately he was one of many that left. There was nothing to stay for, even the cool guys like myself :D

Anyway, he hasn't died or anything silly, we should stop talking about him. There is nothing wrong with him or his amazingly designed directory. Cheers for letting us know Rob. Hope he struggles along nicely with vista :p

an0n

Mar 6th 2008, 3:24 pm

This is turning to another Everybody loves Chris (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=302779) discussion.
And guess who ruined that thread which was intended to learn and question chris' and others ways to promote their directories.

PS: I earned a lot of red from that thread :D also that was before the penalties of google...

post #32 (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2864901&postcount=32) of that particular thread was *THE* best post in it.

Anywho, it's apparently obvious you have discord towards chris, So maybe use PM's next time rather than making these ludicrous threads and posts.

in-short: Resolve your issues from within via PM.

ps.s - You've earned more red. I signed it, as always.

Its cool Anon, im happy in my world :) and im still here, i stay quite realistic and dont expect everday to be easy thats why since last year ive argued for directories and their reputation when most cant be bothered to.
Excellent! I will be expecting to see you around this time of year, next year ;)

As far as that landscape you spoke about, hehe, well, some may just be eager to click the convert form phpLD--> to ????? in due time! :evil grin:

pipes

Mar 6th 2008, 3:28 pm

post #32 (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2864901&postcount=32) of that particular thread was *THE* best post in it.

Anywho, it's apparently obvious you have discord towards chris, So maybe use PM's next time rather than making these ludicrous threads and posts.

in-short: Resolve your issues from within via PM.

Excellent! I will be expecting to see you around this time of year, next year ;)

As far as that landscape you spoke about, hehe, well, some may just be eager to click the convert form phpLD--> to ????? in due time! :evil grin:

Likewise

And i think i know what your referring to there but im staying out of that.

an0n

Mar 6th 2008, 3:35 pm

Likewise

And i think i know what your referring to there but im staying out of that.

hahahaha funny stuff....

an0n, malcolm1, 3rb0, bcdxer, Boulder, brazenmedia, dasha101, dvduval, Kel, LakeCountry, magyar, mikey1090, pipes, stoner3221, swedal

See what the little birdies bring out? :D

mikey1090

Mar 6th 2008, 3:38 pm

hahahaha funny stuff....

an0n, malcolm1, 3rb0, bcdxer, Boulder, brazenmedia, dasha101, dvduval, Kel, LakeCountry, magyar, mikey1090, pipes, stoner3221, swedal

See what the little birdies bring out? :D

Rob, when do you celebrate your birthday? I'll have to buy you some binoculars. You might see things sooner that way;)

mhamdi

Mar 6th 2008, 3:45 pm

I don't have a problem with him, I even sent him pms with some suggestions to improve alive, before all those penalisations. I respect him as a person but I don't agree with his way to promote. and time proved me right.
rep is always welcome. everybody should be proud of a red rep coming from you :D

post #32 (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2864901&postcount=32) of that particular thread was *THE* best post in it.

Anywho, it's apparently obvious you have discord towards chris, So maybe use PM's next time rather than making these ludicrous threads and posts.

in-short: Resolve your issues from within via PM.

ps.s - You've earned more red. I signed it, as always.

Excellent! I will be expecting to see you around this time of year, next year ;)

As far as that landscape you spoke about, hehe, well, some may just be eager to click the convert form phpLD--> to ????? in due time! :evil grin:

xc06

Mar 6th 2008, 3:48 pm

I like Chris and hope Alive live...

It looks that Chris lost some of his passion in directory industry. I guess Google is killer.

an0n

Mar 6th 2008, 3:54 pm

I don't have a problem with him, I even sent him pms with some suggestions to improve alive, before all those penalisations. I respect him as a person but I don't agree with his way to promote. and time proved me right.
rep is always welcome. everybody should be proud of a red rep coming from you :D

Because *you* don't approve, someone is suppose to *jump* at what you say?

Are you a comedian now? Who the hell are you to know what will and won't improve things? You're just guess work like the vast majority of wannabe seo's.

So, Gaygle came down on the directories that were ratted out and falsely accused of malicious acts. Well, Chris promoted to gain exposure. So just because he didn't use FagWords and spent money in alternative and better ways, he gets penalized? Oh, now you are going to claim PR was chased? Then explain how submitting to new directories is exactly chasing PR? Man, go blog a ripped off MOD or something while I tend to and test my latest creation.

mikey1090

Mar 6th 2008, 4:09 pm

Gaygle
FagWords

I can't wait until you release a dictionary. I expect to have your translation of Analytics, Adsense and Webmaster tools when I log in tomorrow morning (in 8 hours).

YMC

Mar 6th 2008, 4:39 pm

Therefore people would make $400 - $800 within their first days of being launched. Then when the directory was cached and they soon realised their $400 from Chris wasn't going to last long they went straight to sitepoint. They claimed to not have enough time to run the directory. After banking the $1500 from the sale, they'd turn to their mates and laugh at how easy it was. Basically Chris made a lot of kids have the ability to buy some cool toys.

While I do think Chris did a lot of good, this is the one area where I think he did a world of bad too. There were many really crappy directories that he purchased from. Many of them are long gone - sold, left to die, or simply taken down. He made it attractive and profitable to be a part of the QBC and that has hurt all of us.

I must admit though it was a bit of masterful marketing. I imagine quite a few of his purchases led to those newbie directory owners returning the favor and purchasing links on Alive and his other directories.

discover

Mar 6th 2008, 5:23 pm

Of course not, but people would launch directories expecting his support. Someone would throw phpLD on a new domain, say they were going to promote it "heavily" and give other details like their unique template that was on the way. They would have regular links set at around $20, featured at $40. Chris would submit at least 20 sites usually. Therefore people would make $400 - $800 within their first days of being launched. Then when the directory was cached and they soon realised their $400 from Chris wasn't going to last long they went straight to sitepoint. They claimed to not have enough time to run the directory. After banking the $1500 from the sale, they'd turn to their mates and laugh at how easy it was. Basically Chris made a lot of kids have the ability to buy some cool toys.

This wasn't just normal directories. The bid directory owners benefited heavily, probably more. And yes, before someone mentions it, I was one of those that recieved a lot from him. More than enough to buy a cool car from what he bidded on ZL. Whilst going slightly off topic, I didn't buy a car. I reinvested it all in another directory. Needless to say I am very grateful for what he did.

It got to the point where he was no longer needed around this forum. Unfortunately he was one of many that left. There was nothing to stay for, even the cool guys like myself :D

Anyway, he hasn't died or anything silly, we should stop talking about him. There is nothing wrong with him or his amazingly designed directory. Cheers for letting us know Rob. Hope he struggles along nicely with vista :p

I had a few directories (which were at the very least 6months old) at the time and Chris didnt submit anywhere near 20 sites to each of them
I doubt how he would be throwing money at sites setup only days before hoping to get his money
He knew what he was doing and I doubt someone promising promotion, template etc would make him submit

anyway no matter tbh, its done done done

BlueDevilMedia

Mar 6th 2008, 5:28 pm

Hey Chris can we get your side of the story???

balkanboy

Mar 6th 2008, 6:45 pm

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BlueDevilMedia

Mar 6th 2008, 6:48 pm

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So does being from Serbia ;)

malcolm1

Mar 6th 2008, 7:37 pm

So does being from Serbia ;)

ahhhh cut it out ...:D

you guys know you like the s**t talkin...:o

comedy............ Something that hasnt been around for a while in this place!

thx
malcolm

an0n

Mar 6th 2008, 8:05 pm

I can't wait until you release a dictionary. I expect to have your translation of Analytics, Adsense and Webmaster tools when I log in tomorrow morning (in 8 hours).

ANALytics - speaks for itself ha!
Adsense - ASSsense
WebMasterTools - WebmasterFOOLS

anymore? ;)

smub

Mar 6th 2008, 11:23 pm

ANALytics - speaks for itself ha!
Adsense - ASSsense
WebMasterTools - WebmasterFOOLS

anymore? ;)

orkut, youtube, adwords, gmail, igoogle, google video

more coming in the truck :p

an0n

Mar 6th 2008, 11:44 pm

orkut, youtube, adwords, gmail, igoogle, google video

more coming in the truck :p

orkut - WHOREkut
youtube - youNEWB
adwords - BADwords ( i like FRAUDwords much better)
gmail - gFAIL
igoogle - iWHOgle
google video - google SHITdeo

uttoransen

Mar 7th 2008, 12:55 am

try to re-call your feelings when you used to see those, "mystic media" payments in your paypal! sadly how people change so soon:o
[Not targeting anyone!:)]

anymore? ;)
Feedburner, google groups!:p

an0n

Mar 7th 2008, 1:05 am

try to re-call your feelings when you used to see those, "mystic media" payments in your paypal! sadly how people change so soon:o
[Not targeting anyone!:)]

Feedburner, google groups!:p

FeedBurner = SHEburner (as in venereal desease.. ouch!)
Google Groups = Google Fruits (as in homosexual)

britishguy

Mar 7th 2008, 1:06 am

48 posts of mostly dross (a few exceptions) what a waste of time DP has become :eek:

an0n

Mar 7th 2008, 1:10 am

48 posts of mostly dross (a few exceptions) what a waste of time DP has become :eek:

Sorry Pete =/

I guess I am one of the guilty parties in this thread. But can you blame me, with posts like this (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=6859122&postcount=26) and people's hard-ons for others?

I just try to lighten it up, since, well, the thread is a *joke* after all. (at least imho)

britishguy

Mar 7th 2008, 1:15 am

Sorry Pete =/

I guess I am one of the guilty parties in this thread. But can you blame me, with posts like this (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=6859122&postcount=26) and people's hard-ons for others?

I just try to lighten it up, since, well, the thread is a *joke* after all. (at least imho)

Hi Rob

I said a few exceptions now waiting for the RED to flow in for agreeing with you

You are right its a joke

JamieG

Mar 7th 2008, 4:17 am

try to re-call your feelings when you used to see those, "mystic media" payments in your paypal! sadly how people change so soon:o
[Not targeting anyone!:)]
That's because when they were bought in the first place nobody realized (probably Chris included) just how much damage was going to be done. As I'm typing this I'm looking at a Google adsense offering paid submission services, is that hypocritical or what? :mad:

yangyang

Mar 7th 2008, 7:28 am

Both big name directories, now PR = 0, how are they gonna survive?

Maybe, the backlinks still count, only PR superficially drops to 0?

toby

Mar 7th 2008, 7:33 am

yep, it's very sad. but i think Christ already dropped his intention for the site.

BlueDevilMedia

Mar 7th 2008, 8:32 am

comedy............ Something that hasnt been around for a while in this place!

I laugh all day at some of the stupid stuff I see webmasters saying ;) Not just on DP....the ding dongs that create 15 free directories on the same domain with a .info tld is the reason the directory industry is hurting.

raidenraiden

Mar 7th 2008, 9:05 am

Why did this happen? Whats the story?

dhruv37

Mar 7th 2008, 9:07 am

Already similar kind of thread going on - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=739408

mikey1090

Mar 7th 2008, 9:49 am

bigweblinks.com & alivedirectory.com died?

Yes. They were shot. A sniper hidden on the top of a building caught them off guard, the bullet went through one of them and hit the other. Talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone.....

leen3o

Mar 7th 2008, 10:04 am

Why did this happen? Whats the story?

Probably from Googles big sweep trying to crack down on alot of paid link services etc... There are 1000's of stories and posts all over the net about it, in one night it pretty much put alot of the paid link placement companies out of business :D

kendall

Mar 7th 2008, 10:27 am

Probably from Googles big sweep trying to crack down on alot of paid link services etc... There are 1000's of stories and posts all over the net about it, in one night it pretty much put a lot of the paid link placement companies out of business :D

I usually stay quiet around here but I feel the need to speak because these threads never seem to end. My directory went from a PR5-PR4-PR2-PR0 and Im not really out of business. It has surely slowed down but thats the breaks.

If one chooses to be a slave to gaygle (An0n, 2007) then so be it but many webmasters understand the need for directories for SEO/traffic purposes and not PR.

This month, my directory has sent many webmasters targetted traffic for surfers looking for garanimals clothing, ejaculare precoce (not sure what it is, the listing isn't english, international formal wear association and many others.

I think this is the best value we can bring, not to pass PR.

Its all been said before

xc06

Mar 7th 2008, 11:05 am

they are still alive just as not active as before.Their traffic is still there.

JamieG

Mar 7th 2008, 12:26 pm

Probably as a result of this thread.

dargre

Mar 7th 2008, 12:49 pm

yep, it's very sad. but i think Christ already dropped his intention for the site.
Even if, then I'd say he's wise man and businessman, I never doubt it.

If treating directories as business I do not see any reason to put too much attention to something that no longer promise profitable future.

ronmac

Mar 7th 2008, 12:55 pm

I am glad some of this directories got burned by google - some of them too big for their boots and the worlds moved on.

hyper

Mar 7th 2008, 12:55 pm

Even if, then I'd say he's wise man and businessman, I never doubt it.

If treating directories as business I do not see any reason to put too much attention to something that no longer promise profitable future.

Some still earn well with this. I wonder for how long.

YMC

Mar 7th 2008, 2:42 pm

Anyone selling links will most likely not survive long.

Folks who are building a reference site with advertising have a much rosier future.

Jim4767

Mar 7th 2008, 2:58 pm

...It looks that Chris lost some of his passion in directory industry. I guess Google is killer.

I certainly can't speak specifically for Chris. But I think that there is another, rarely mentioned, reason that some of the veteran directory owners have departed DP. That is, the increase in flaming. Discussions seem to have turned more ad hominem in recent months. That's the very reason that, just today, I left General Chat out of my subscribed forums. Why visit a website (DP) dedicated to professional webmastering only to get belittled and occasionally cussed at in certain forums? I'm saddened that some of the veteran directory owners have left DP, but I understand.

Brian1970

Mar 7th 2008, 3:16 pm

Chris is a well educated guy; He has lots of businesses and business sense.

I’m sure he will be doing ok.

With some the rubbish that gets posted, its no wonder he stays away.

Thanks Brian

JamieG

Mar 7th 2008, 5:18 pm

I'm saddened that some of the veteran directory owners have left DP, but I understand.What do you mean veteran? most of them have only been going 2 years at best?

dargre

Mar 7th 2008, 5:58 pm

What do you mean veteran? most of them have only been going 2 years at best?

Some need 2 years to learn, other 20 years, and next will never learn.
And when it comes to manners and personal culture I think you're in this 3rd group.

- D.

JamieG

Mar 7th 2008, 6:29 pm

Some need 2 years to learn, other 20 years, and next will never learn.
And when it comes to manners and personal culture I think you're in this 3rd group.

- D.Your entitled to your opinion on my manners but being straight to the point is what I'm about, I ask in one sentence what others take ten posts to ask, if you don't like it then refrain from reading my posts. I believe there's an ignore button somewhere? :rolleyes:

silencer

Mar 7th 2008, 6:32 pm

I certainly can't speak specifically for Chris. But I think that there is another, rarely mentioned, reason that some of the veteran directory owners have departed DP. That is, the increase in flaming. Discussions seem to have turned more ad hominem in recent months. That's the very reason that, just today, I left General Chat out of my subscribed forums. Why visit a website (DP) dedicated to professional webmastering only to get belittled and occasionally cussed at in certain forums? I'm saddened that some of the veteran directory owners have left DP, but I understand.

Whole heartedly agree, it is one of the reasons that I rarely frequent the place also, despite there being some very good information available at times.

JamieG

Mar 7th 2008, 6:37 pm

Whole heartedly agree, it is one of the reasons that I rarely frequent the place also, despite there being some very good information available at times.The power is to have the ability to ignore the flaming and look for the good points of anything. I just did with an uncalled comment above. :rolleyes: Rise above it.

smub

Mar 7th 2008, 8:37 pm

Anyone selling links will most likely not survive long.

Folks who are building a reference site with advertising have a much rosier future.

you are saying like that the ones who are penaltised were the only ones who buy/sell links. We all know no one here is completely clean ... with no bought / sold links.

For google to eliminate paid links they would have to eliminate 70% of the websites that exist right now.

JamieG

Mar 7th 2008, 9:52 pm

you are saying like that the ones who are penaltised were the only ones who buy/sell links. We all know no one here is completely clean ... with no bought / sold links.

For google to eliminate paid links they would have to eliminate 70% of the websites that exist right now.For someone so young you seem to think you know it all smub, stop playing above your station, sit back and learn from people like YMC, from what I gather she knows a hell of a lot more than you do for sure. As for 'no-one here is completely clean'? You speak for yourself, there are probably many here that never overstepped the line.

Selling links via a strict review is one thing, selling links for the sake of PR boosting is another, which is the essence of this thread.

Oh, thanks for the red rep whoever it was from, as someone said via p.m, you know your hurting people when they start throwing red about, and the truth hurts. :cool:

Jim4767

Mar 7th 2008, 9:54 pm

The power is to have the ability to ignore the flaming and look for the good points of anything...

It's not that simple. For many people (I'm one of them), flaming reduces the level of the forum from professional to amateur.

I belong to a university sports forum, and flaming is forbidden in the premium forums, but permitted in the non-paid ones. The difference is like day and night. I'm totally willing to pay the price to go to the premium board and get mature commentaries and no flaming. Thousands of others on that forum do the same. The permitted, free flaming forums are a joke and not worth the time to check in there.

JamieG

Mar 7th 2008, 10:21 pm

It's not that simple. For many people (I'm one of them), flaming reduces the level of the forum from professional to amateur.

I belong to a university sports forum, and flaming is forbidden in the premium forums, but permitted in the non-paid ones. The difference is like day and night. I'm totally willing to pay the price to go to the premium board and get mature commentaries and no flaming. Thousands of others on that forum do the same. The permitted, free flaming forums are a joke and not worth the time to check in there.I couldn't agree more Jim, it's very tough indeed, but the problem we have here is that a number of members here simply don't know any better.

I tend to distinguish what posts are worth replying to and when to duck out, you won't change the mentality of some on here and as some very prominent and dare I say well respected members on here said to me via p.m, this forum is going to the dogs because of this flaming.

Having said that though Jim, there needs to be a distinction between asking hard-line but legitimate questions and outright flaming, I never flame but because my posts are usually brutally honest they can be construed as that. Hopefully the wiser people can see this.

YMC

Mar 8th 2008, 9:12 am