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CT SEO
Feb 12th 2008, 11:02 am
In my humble opinion I feel that yahoo has dropped the ball by declining the microsoft buyout. I feel that 44+ billion dollars is an overestimate of the companies worth considering their tiny market share of search traffic.

However even joining forces with MSFT I think the only one winning would be the executives at yahoo. Microsoft has a history of eating up failing search engines, and dealing with the aftermath with poor outcomes.

Google should look into a bargain buy of yahoo, and increase its SE dominance!

WebGeek182
Feb 12th 2008, 11:09 am
I would disagree. Yahoo should definitely not sell out to Microsoft. I'm not sure where you're getting your market data from, but Yahoo has the second largest Search engine marketshare after Google, and ahead of Microsoft. Yahoo is anything but a failing search engine.

Kagato
Feb 12th 2008, 11:10 am
Would have been an interesting buy though.

wavey
Feb 12th 2008, 11:11 am
I wouldn't have thought that Google would be allowed to buy Yahoo given their large search market share, particularly in Europe.

norfstar
Feb 12th 2008, 11:19 am
tiny market share of search traffic.

Yahoo.com is ranked the number one most visited website by Alexa, Compete and Quantcast. It has the second largest market share in terms on searches, which is a long way from tiny.

Emperor
Feb 12th 2008, 11:20 am
Yahoo has very good services like Flickr and BlogRush that are booming. Who gives a dam about their search market. I'm sorry but Yahoo is everything but a failing company, in my opinion they have made some very good purchases over the years.

decoyjames
Feb 12th 2008, 11:23 am
now they might divide yahoo, and just give the search to google...
Or google will offer more

louisneill35
Feb 12th 2008, 11:46 am
Yahoo is ranked ahead of google in alexa, so how does that make them a failed SE ? Google may get more search engine traffic thats true, but Yahoo must have done something right to be the number one ranked site in the world, at least they were the last time i checked, and i for one would have liked to have seen microso*t buy yahoo and would hate to see google buy it as they in many peoples eyes dominate the internet already and think they can do what they want.

markyd
Feb 12th 2008, 12:09 pm
In my opinion, Yahoo isn't great because of it's search engine, it's the other services it offers, like Flickr.

Regards,

- Mark

CT SEO
Feb 12th 2008, 12:27 pm
I agree that yahoo does well with other services such as flickr, but my main point was search... I don't know a single person that their number one search engine is yahoo, despite being #1 in alexa rankings.

I feel other products like yahoo answers and flickr are the majority of that traffic.

Doing side by side searches on yahoo and google produce extremely different results, and SEO is much different on the two. Yahoo tends to be extremely easy to get to the top through black hat SEO while google does a good job of weeding through the garbage, and for that reason alone I will not use yahoo for search (I don't have time to be a garbage man, I already have a full time job)...

Only time will tell in the SE game, look at ask.com they are total crap now (they used to be something) despite a large marketing and advertising campaign, promoting new search features this last year, I still have not found a decent targeted result when trying them.

I feel yahoo should have sold out when given the chance, IMHO they are destined to be on the level of ask.com over the next few years as people get wiser to good algorithms. As far as their other services, we shall see, trends change, and even myspace, the king of social webs is seeing the effects of marketing slow downs and ad revenues... people get tired of the same thing, cash in while you can!

ListedHosting
Feb 12th 2008, 1:01 pm
I would disagree. Yahoo should definitely not sell out to Microsoft. I'm not sure where you're getting your market data from, but Yahoo has the second largest Search engine marketshare after Google, and ahead of Microsoft. Yahoo is anything but a failing search engine.

Also what the hell, what other search engines has yahoo bought?

wpdaily
Feb 12th 2008, 1:04 pm
Microsoft screws up everything they touch, so this is good news for Google.

peterboro
Feb 12th 2008, 1:05 pm
You don't measure a successful business model by your Alexa rank, it is measured in market share and earnings. Yahoo may be number 2 behind Google in search advertising but it is far behind in market share and earnings. Yahoo and Microsoft combined will still be far behind Google in search advertising. I think they should combine to challenge Google's lead in advertising, and keep Google from making all of the rules for internet marketers.

seo daddy
Feb 12th 2008, 1:05 pm
In my humble opinion I feel that yahoo has dropped the ball by declining the microsoft buyout. I feel that 44+ billion dollars is an overestimate of the companies worth considering their tiny market share of search traffic.

However even joining forces with MSFT I think the only one winning would be the executives at yahoo. Microsoft has a history of eating up failing search engines, and dealing with the aftermath with poor outcomes.

Google should look into a bargain buy of yahoo, and increase its SE dominance!

I agree totally..
corporate greed at its finest :eek:

$44 billion is a huge over valuation IMHO and considering the feeble market share, search engine technology and profits that Yahoo has (does it make profit??!!)

Talk about a missed opportunity

wildstar
Feb 12th 2008, 1:53 pm
I was surprised Yahoo didn't take MS offer. MS practically baited them out of trouble.

obay
Feb 12th 2008, 1:59 pm
Oh dear...

What will Microsoft do now? ha, microsoft shouldn't of even decied to buy Yahoo! it's well out their buisness.

Malok
Feb 12th 2008, 2:04 pm
IMO, Yahoo is simply waiting to squeeze out some more money. Most reports have stated that experts feel that they will go up to $35 per share.


Smart IMO.



Now, if they decline the 2nd swing of the bat from MS - that would be dropping the ball. :)

thor22
Feb 12th 2008, 2:37 pm
good will buy yahoo.

ken123
Feb 12th 2008, 2:50 pm
Microsoft should buy baidu, not yahoo.

kozyavka
Feb 12th 2008, 2:59 pm
I would disagree. Yahoo should definitely not sell out to Microsoft. I'm not sure where you're getting your market data from, but Yahoo has the second largest Search engine marketshare after Google, and ahead of Microsoft. Yahoo is anything but a failing search engine.

exactly, I am just surprised how many people don't even know that is doing financially well and is actually on the second place on this market. They obviously have dome some big mistakes by hiring wrong people for very important positions, but I think they will figure out how to deal with the current situation (in fact they already did)

ListedHosting
Feb 12th 2008, 3:05 pm
Hey can just open there own search engine, pay everyone 1 usd to visit and become larger. Spending only the money they used to bid for yahoo

edbri871
Feb 12th 2008, 3:20 pm
Rumors have it that Yahoo may actually outsource their search ads to Google. Would be huge for google, and probably more profitable for Yahoo. Probably not a good thing for publishers, especially those who get banned from google for a crappy reason.

stevefox
Feb 12th 2008, 3:26 pm
Microsoft should take that $$$ and use it to bribe the engineers at Google:rolleyes:

CT SEO
Feb 12th 2008, 6:21 pm
Hey can just open there own search engine, pay everyone 1 usd to visit and become larger. Spending only the money they used to bid for yahoo

Microsoft already has a search engine (rarely known fact appearently with a 4% market share).

miester
Feb 13th 2008, 10:38 am
Yahoo has been struglling for quite a while. Yes, they hold a decent share of the internet pie but if you have been watching closely you'd notice that several different pieces of the yahoo pie are disappearing or struggling. The dominate in some areas while they are struggling in others - those of which have been getting purged.

CT SEO
Feb 13th 2008, 2:10 pm
I still stick to my guns about yahoo dropping the ball by turning down microsoft's offer of $44.6B, especially since news has been coming out that they are actively seeking suitors in a web marriage, but are coming up short handed on offers.

I was just reading an article that stated the following:

"News Corp. is said to be discussing a stake of more than 20% in Yahoo!, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal, which followed other media reports from late Tuesday.

The deal would also involve combining MySpace and other online properties owned by News Corp. with Yahoo!, as well as a cash contribution from News Corp. and a private equity firm, the Journal reported.

If true, this would go against previous assertions by News Corp.'s chief executive Rupert Murdoch, who earlier this month ruled out the possibility of a deal.

"I would say, we are definitely not going to make a bid for Yahoo!," Murdoch told analysts during the company's earnings release.

News Corp. just recently completed its $5.6 billion acquisition of Dow Jones after a heated battle with the company's family members.

Yahoo! has been actively hunting for an alternative to Microsoft's $31-a-share bid, initially valued at $44.6 billion. The Sunnyvale, Cal. company officially rejected Microsoft's proposal on Monday, saying the offer substantially undervalued Yahoo!. "

Isn't it funny how the only people thinking that a $44.6 billion dollar offer = undervalued are the execs at yahoo? Maybe they should take the hint that no one else wants them, and sell-sell-sell...

You can read the full article hxxp://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/newsanalysis/technet/10403400.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

And just in case this is necessary: I do not own any stock in either of the mentioned stocks above, I am simply intrigued with this possible sell off.

hellbringer1995
Feb 13th 2008, 3:01 pm
I would of gone with microsofts deal

mysite2121
Feb 13th 2008, 5:39 pm
wow thats crazy

eclipsenetworkz
Feb 16th 2008, 6:44 pm
Yahoo is still a great mail company as well. Google is mainly just a search company that makes money from selling ads on their pages. Yahoo offers much more.

eclipsenetworkz
Feb 16th 2008, 6:45 pm
that is pretty amazing.

Shazz
Feb 16th 2008, 6:46 pm
Yahoo is still a great mail company as well. Google is mainly just a search company that makes money from selling ads on their pages. Yahoo offers much more.

Gmail > Ymail
No one can argue

hexxer
Feb 17th 2008, 1:37 pm
Yea yahoo isn't a great search engine. There other services are better

CT SEO
Feb 17th 2008, 7:32 pm
Yahoo mail sucks, gmail is far superior!

Spider-Man
Feb 17th 2008, 7:41 pm
Yahoo won't sell for less than $50, that's for sure. On the news tonight there was more on Rupert Murdoch's takeover bid on Yahoo. How sick would it be if Myspace merged with Yahoo, Flickr and Yahoo Answers? Although if this takeover bid does progress - where will Google stand after they bought shares in Myspace? Is Murdoch going to say 'thanks, but no thanks' to Mr G or Mr Y's search to power Myspace?

That guy's a bit old to be throwing that kinda money around, isn't he? Although he has got like 5 or 6 kids who'd happily take over daddy's fortunes.

LinketySplit
Feb 17th 2008, 8:19 pm
Yahoo owned by MS wouldn't be good for anyone.
Of course Microsoft could well just squander the value of Yahoo if they were indeed able to acquire it.

warman2442
Feb 17th 2008, 8:34 pm
Yahoo is smart for doing this dont just sell from the first bid, microsoft really wants it so they should suck every cent they can off of them, rumors are microsoft is coming back with a 55bill offer.


Tyler

FL954
Feb 18th 2008, 2:04 am
I think it's a really dumb idea, you guys only want microsoft to buy yahoo just because ya are some greddy publishers who want the adcenter :mad: microsoft fucks up every thing thing they touch

lynder
Feb 18th 2008, 2:14 am
Yahoo is doing great on their own

thsadmin
Feb 18th 2008, 2:18 am
Well that was a waste of a read, just read all the posts and some are just plain stupid .... can someone tell me who owns MSN ? Answer this .... How much of the internet can Google legally own ?

I am not even fazed who owns what or what owns who .... really .... I am selfish and I try to focus on my own sites and business, I try not to get involved with these distractions .... but yet I am on DP 15% of the day .... mmmmm

manishji
Feb 18th 2008, 2:32 am
You can expect much better search experience through Yahoo after this acquisition would happen. The Microsoft would easily pass the google’s no 1 flag.

Loonm
Feb 18th 2008, 2:36 am
Microsoft should buy baidu, not yahoo.

haha, this one should be cool,
But will baidu sellout, i think that they have a censorship or something, microsoft dont wish to deal with that i guess.

fuse-box
Feb 18th 2008, 3:00 am
I HATE YAHOOOOO...microsoft should buy and shut it down

but having say that...they have been good to my site...since i rank so high in their result...

to be honest i don't know why i hate yahoo...i think it's just they make you singned up for everything... :(

CT SEO
Feb 18th 2008, 7:39 am
I HATE YAHOOOOO...microsoft should buy and shut it down

but having say that...they have been good to my site...since i rank so high in their result...

to be honest i don't know why i hate yahoo...i think it's just they make you singned up for everything... :(

Funny that you should say that, I kinda feel the same way, I hate how I have to login or signup for almost everything that yahoo has to offer, isn't anything anonymous anymore?

COLDROCK
Feb 21st 2008, 4:24 am
Irrespective of how well or bad any individual part of the company is doing, the overall company "Yahoo" is sick, the share prices are falling, the revenues aren't rising, the over heads are increasing, the profits have come down, now they are also firing employees, & not to mention that the share holders are angry with the present Yahoo board. Hopfully MSN buysout Yahoo before both go bust.

reuben0207
Feb 21st 2008, 4:32 am
for whatever reasons, Yahoo is a falling giant.....

thier top brass are not doing enough.....btw, the authority will not sanction the takeover by Google if it ever happen....

usasportstraining
Feb 21st 2008, 5:03 am
I would disagree. Yahoo should definitely not sell out to Microsoft. I'm not sure where you're getting your market data from, but Yahoo has the second largest Search engine marketshare after Google, and ahead of Microsoft. Yahoo is anything but a failing search engine.

I would argue that it is failing, but not failed. As a search engine, they've used Google and Alta Vista (and possibly others) to handle the actual search.

As a portal, they're ok, but they dropped the ball in keeping people around (else they wouldn't be second, since they were first for so long).

Yahoo could have done all the things that Google has succeeded at doing, but they either didn't do them or didn't succeed at doing them compared to Google.

*Their biggest mistake would be joining forces with AOL.

ardley216
Feb 21st 2008, 6:40 am
when i first saw the alexa rankings (a while ago) i had NO idea what yahoo was.. i had only used google... i had alook at yahoo and found that it was horrible to use compared to google.

i supose theres another wya of looking at it... google may have done all its fetures to the best possible and anything compared to it is not as good...

would you use yahoo if there as no google?

but overall i kinda hate yahoo too ;)

ladyk5
Feb 22nd 2008, 1:00 am
In my humble opinion I feel that yahoo has dropped the ball by declining the microsoft buyout. I feel that 44+ billion dollars is an overestimate of the companies worth considering their tiny market share of search traffic.

However even joining forces with MSFT I think the only one winning would be the executives at yahoo. Microsoft has a history of eating up failing search engines, and dealing with the aftermath with poor outcomes.

Google should look into a bargain buy of yahoo, and increase its SE dominance!

I dont think they blew it, many financial people are saying that Microsoft might make a bigger offer. The very next day Yahoo's stock rose and was upgraded to a buy...

So i dont know I think they might get another offer