How do you deal with click bombs?

[TCR]

I checks the paths of my visitors and it seemsthat some people are clicking my ads multiple times - grrr...how do I deal???

[SEO Guru]

I checks the paths of my visitors and it seemsthat some people are clicking my ads multiple times - grrr...how do I deal???
Report it to the adsense support team

[dlcmh]

Call me dumb and help me out - how can we detect clicks - in the logs? What do they look like? Definitely not in AWstats right?

[SEO Guru]

Call me dumb and help me out - how can we detect clicks - in the logs? What do they look like? Definitely not in AWstats right?
I'll suggest download firefox and install adsense notifier extension, if you dont have it, You can set it to update every 5 minutes, and 2-3 days with it, you'll easily detect if your site is been bombed IMO

[dlcmh]

I'll suggest download firefox and install adsense notifier extension, if you dont have it, You can set it to update every 5 minutes, and 2-3 days with it, you'll easily detect if your site is been bombed IMO

I already have Firefox. It's fun when the stats climb up steadily, not so fun when it seems to stall :D

I'm specifically interested in post #1 - how was he able to check the paths of the visitors and what they clicked on?

[SEO Guru]

I'm specifically interested in post #1 - how was he able to check the paths of the visitors and what they clicked on?
Install webalizer or similiar tracker on your server, then you can see exiting urls and referring urls, thats the only way IMO
and about the ads what they clicked on thing, you can set each ad unit to different channel, that way it you can track this too ;)

[browntwn]

You can also use a stat program like:
http://www.addfreestats.com (free)

and it shows you where your exit clicks go. It works for AdSense, according to them , and I know it works for other ads, like adbrite.

Call me dumb and help me out - how can we detect clicks - in the logs? What do they look like? Definitely not in AWstats right?

[digitalpoint]

You don't need to deal with them... As long as you aren't doing it (or asking people to do it), you are fine. Google has automatic click fraud controls in place already.

[SEO Guru]

You don't need to deal with them... As long as you aren't doing it (or asking people to do it), you are fine. Google has automatic click fraud controls in place already.
But he isnt ready to believe that, he wants to track them somehow ;)

[TCR]

Actually, people are clicking MY paid advertising and sponsored searches. So perhaps click bombed is not the right term…

The ones I pay for using adwords/yahoo...

[coderdan]

Contact google if you are convinced there is something fishy. Is your revenue also rising?

[BWDOW]

Inform google about this issue otherwise you can be banned. It's against TOS.

[TCR]

Is your revenue also rising?
No more than what is average - Yahoo has a click fraud protection. Does Google? It is not my ADsense as much as my ADwords

[Mong]

You don't need to deal with them... As long as you aren't doing it (or asking people to do it), you are fine. Google has automatic click fraud controls in place already.


So if a visitor clicks 3 times ad in 3 hours (keeping same ip address).What this fraud control will do?

count it 1 :rolleyes:

[digitalpoint]

No idea about specifics. I don't work inside Google. :)

[GuyFromChicago]

So if a visitor clicks 3 times ad in 3 hours (keeping same ip address).What this fraud control will do?

Why would that be fraud? What if they bought on the 3rd visit?

[Mong]

Why would that be fraud? What if they bought on the 3rd visit?

Hmmm
imho there must be some threshold variable in google algo to control over cost by single (same) visitor.

[SEO Guru]

Hmmm
imho there must be some threshold variable in google algo to control over cost by single (same) visitor.
Ask Matt Cutts :D

[digitalpoint]

Hmmm
imho there must be some threshold variable in google algo to control over cost by single (same) visitor.Of course there is... it's probably based on 10,000 different variables and weighted based on probability of all those different variables and how they affect each other.

Just saying, "3 clicks in 3 hours" is terribly simplistic... Google can see (in some cases) how well that person historically has converted into a "goal" for other advertisers. They can see their historical patterns of site visitation vs. clicking ads (maybe the user has visited a lot of similar sites lately for example), etc, etc, etc...

Once their thousands of variables are taken into account, then they can determine the value this click/customer brings to the AdWords advertiser (for example they might charge less for the click).

[SEO Guru]

Of course there is... it's probably based on 10,000 different variables and weighted based on probability of all those different variables and how they affect each other.

Just saying, "3 clicks in 3 hours" is terribly simplistic... Google can see (in some cases) how well that person historically has converted into a "goal" for other advertisers. They can see their historical patterns of site visitation vs. clicking ads (maybe the user has visited a lot of similar sites lately for example), etc, etc, etc...

Once their thousands of variables are taken into account, then they can determine the value this click/customer brings to the AdWords advertiser (for example they might charge less for the click).
Thats the reason it takes almost an hour before adsense reports update ;)

[TCR]

Does anyone think that a screen 'refresh ' rate has anything to do with what I was refering to earlier? Checkout the attached and tell me if that is someone clicking a few times or just the browser refreshing.

[Mong]

Yes no doubt now google has enough data,money and experience.And it must be having best artifical intelligence techniques employed in their algorithms to counter click frauds.

Sometime i think google is creating virtual minds of the searchers.Because suppose i google for "xbox" and then goes to a website where adsense or urchin is installed and then i click on any ad or click outbound link then again there is a big chance google can detect me at 3 stage and even more .....

Actually google knows who is doing what ..
and what he is about to do :)

[SEO Guru]

I think that was a person searching jim carner mad money in yahoo search and bumping on your site at times, for no reason

[TCR]

I think that was a person searching jim carner mad money in yahoo search and bumping on your site at times, for no reason

How do you mean? Doesnt it appear he was clicking every few seconds? Or are you aying he was being redirected? I advertise with Yahoo, so I am led to believe he was clicking 5 times, but I do not know...

[SEO Guru]

How do you mean? Doesnt it appear he was clicking every few seconds? Or are you aying he was being redirected? I advertise with Yahoo, so I am led to believe he was clicking 5 times, but I do not know... Dont you think the time period is bit too extended for typical click bombing, I think he was looking for something, and yours was in the sponsors, so he thought of trying them, he tried once, then again, then again, weird but... he might have been some clever enemy, do u have enemies?
Its bad for your ONline wealth and health :)

[TCR]

... he might have been some clever enemy, do u have enemies?
Its bad for your ONline wealth and health :)

I have no enemies that I know of, I certainly have not prokoked anyone. Perhaps a competitor in the same area. The above image is only one example, it has happened a few times, different people of course. Its enough to make on paranoid!:(

and the time period before averages about 7 seconds inbetween, is that too much for some sort of evil clicking scheme? lol

[SEO Guru]

and the time period before averages about 7 seconds inbetween, is that too much for some sort of evil clicking scheme? lolOpps I saw the last two, No doubt you lost a precious dollar (maybe more) today :p

[TCR]

Opps I saw the last two, No doubt you lost a precious dollar (maybe more) today :p

Every dollar is precious, at least if some shmuck is clicking my ads! whats the recourse? I feel like it is a waste to go and contact yahoo or google over a dollr...but they will add up!

[SEO Guru]

Every dollar is precious, at least if some shmuck is clicking my ads! whats the recourse? I feel like it is a waste to go and contact yahoo or google over a dollr...but they will add up!
Doesnt matter if its a dollar or a cent, The fact is that you have been ripped off, If i were you, I would have contact the ad broker straightaway before asking people's review coz there is money involved. but luckily we both are different entities :p

[TCR]

I actually already contacted YPN, see what they have to say. Liek I saud earlier, it was not registering on my account, but still...

[SEO Guru]

I actually already contacted YPN, see what they have to say. Liek I saud earlier, it was not registering on my account, but still...
Good Job:), Just wait & watch, IMHO, you'll get every cent of ur hard earned money back w/o interest :D