Why wasn't GTech banned when he insulted all muslims in the PR???

browntwn

Dec 28th 2007, 6:38 pm

A personal attack is directed toward someone in particular.

Nevertheless, it is always unfortunate when people are offended. However, in most advanced countries we don't punish people just because other people are offended by something.

If we start to prohibit discussion of things certain people find offensive there would be little left to talk about. The answer to speech you don't agree with is not to try and keep others from speaking, but more speech.

Let your words compete in the marketplace of ideas.

ps: Am I the only one who finds it ironic that in a post complaining of personal attacks, the OP couldn't keep from calling someone an "asshole". You have shown your hypocrisy clearly for all to see. I personally thought it an odd way to impress people with the notion that you were offended by a personal attack. Is your point so weak that you must yourself rely on juvenile insults directed against another member?
Why didn't this asshole get banned????

simplyg123

Dec 28th 2007, 6:39 pm

Lets face it, in this day and age, Muhammad would be just that, its not an insult, its modern day truth. I mean wasnt he supposedly married to a 12 year old or something?

clookid

Dec 28th 2007, 6:44 pm

Calling someone a pedophile isn't an insult???? What planet do you live on???

Whoops! Got distracted... Only read half of the statement. Sorry about that.

In that case, it is rather... Well, it isn't a personal attack... It is directed at multiple people. But I suppose it is no worse that attacking all of the people that write articles for 1-cent per word, plenty of people do it.

Something should happen about it, but I don't really support a permanent ban... Sorry, once again.

wisdomtool

Dec 28th 2007, 6:49 pm

The comment was directed towards the Prophet whom billions held with great respect, I am not a Muslim, I still feel it is unjustified, If ablaze is a Muslim, he would feel strongly against this. Maybe he can tone down during his request to the mods, but I think it is a valid complaint, though we need to let the mods decide. Discussion do need to follow the rules laid down for that particular forum.

A personal attack is directed toward someone in particular.

Nevertheless, it is always unfortunate when people are offended. However, in most advanced countries we don't punish people just because other people are offended by something.

If we start to prohibit discussion of things certain people find offensive there would be little left to talk about. The answer to speech you don't agree with is not to try and keep others from speaking, but more speech.

Let your words compete in the marketplace of ideas.

ps: Am I the only one who finds it ironic that in a post complaining of personal attacks, the OP couldn't keep from calling someone an "asshole". You couldn't have shown your hypocrisy any clearer than that display. What an odd way to impress people with the notion that you were offended by a personal attack. Is your point so weak that you must yourself rely on juvenile insults?

browntwn

Dec 28th 2007, 7:12 pm

The comment was directed towards the Prophet whom billions held with great respect, I am not a Muslim, I still feel it is unjustified, If ablaze is a Muslim, he would feel strongly against this. Maybe he can tone down during his request to the mods, but I think it is a valid complaint, though we need to let the mods decide. Discussion do need to follow the rules laid down for that particular forum.

While I can understand that, not offending the Prophet of a religion is not a rule of this forum nor a religious dictate for many DP members. If we all take that approach then some people can claim to be insulted when President Bush is insulted or ridiculed, or when Israel or 'Zionism' are insulted - should all those people making those insulting posts be banned too?

Personally, I find many things written on DP to be personally offensive, should I try to make sure that others are not allowed to discuss them just because it offends me?

You can't stop all criticism of Islam, even if you find it insulting. The notion that you can is the same attitude that leaves people dead over a cartoon. Personally, I find that type of over-reaction to be far more offensive that the original action.

wisdomtool

Dec 28th 2007, 7:16 pm

The cartoons' reactions was excessive. It is more propagated by governments and religious interest groups with an axe to grind.

But in this case I think this does apply as below

Personal attacks include any attacks on someone's personal life, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ETHNICITY, or personal habits.

Again I am not a mod, so let the mods decide.

While I can understand that, not offending the Prophet of a religion is not a rule of this forum nor a religious dictate for many DP members. If we all take that approach then some people can claim to be insulted when President Bush is insulted or ridiculed, or when Israel or 'Zionism' are insulted - should all those people making those insulting posts be banned too?

Personally, I find many things written on DP to be personally offensive, should I try to make sure that others are not allowed to discuss them just because it offends me?

You can't stop all criticism of Islam, even if you find it insulting. The notion that you can is the same attitude that leaves people dead over a cartoon. Personally, I find that type of over-reaction to be far more offensive that the original action.

Colbyt

Dec 28th 2007, 7:16 pm

I think maybe banning the religion forum is a better choice. Why do we need a forum about religion?

No one is going to change anyone elses mind. It is just an emotional reaction. A world with morals and no religion might be a better place for sure it would be a better group of forums.

wisdomtool

Dec 28th 2007, 7:19 pm

It is a great forum to discuss different religious views, to interact with people of different religions and to understand each other's differences and similarities. I feel it would be a pity to ban. Take water for eg, you can drown in it, but you can also sail in it. The forum is dead, we as participants need to ensure we sail on water rather than get drown in it with hatred, biases and what now.

techblog

Dec 28th 2007, 7:25 pm

look at the technical definition of a paedophile, then compare it to the time Muslims first started getting married.

lol spelling

ohh he was banned yesterday but then got unbanned...

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5809734&postcount=65

tushardhoot1

Dec 28th 2007, 7:31 pm

ablaye

Dec 28th 2007, 7:34 pm

More of GTech insults:

Muslims are the vilest of animals. Personally, I say show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to muslims. Muslims are perverse. Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips. Fight those Muslims who are near to you. Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified.

techblog

Dec 28th 2007, 7:35 pm

Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad%27s_family#List_of_Muhammad.27s_wives_and_children

I agree, one of his wives was only 6, but a whole lot of them were also quite older than him. Does that mean hes a senior-o-phile? No. At that time, it was not a big deal for that to happen.

So because it was not a big deal @ the time, gtech should be banned for being accurate? gtech could in a way be commended for using accurate and technically correct words.

Colbyt

Dec 28th 2007, 7:39 pm

It is a great forum to discuss different religious views, to interact with people of different religions and to understand each other's differences and similarities.

I must have missed those posts. :) All I see is a lot of baiting and bashing going on.

Please don't get me wrong about religion. There are a lot of people of many faiths who are good and moral people. There are mal-contents in all religions. You can tell the good religions and the good followers by their actions and the works they do.

I don't wear my religion "on my sleeve" and I feel no need to force anyone else into believing as I do. The supreme creator by whatever name you call him/her will sort the evil from the good. And I do suspect there will be a lot of surprised believers at that time.

sundaybrew

Dec 28th 2007, 7:53 pm

O just be quite and spend some time with your Family.

Thats what is wrong with ALL countries......

Everyone needs more family time :)

menj1980

Dec 28th 2007, 8:06 pm

Aaww, you guys still feel that the mods here will react to this.
Forget it ablaye, you cannot just go running behind insane guys everytime, just ignore them and project towards your work.

Like a dog’s tail, which will never straighten out, these insane minds will not
change, no matter how many things are tried.

spark911

Dec 28th 2007, 8:27 pm

So because it was not a big deal @ the time, gtech should be banned for being accurate? gtech could in a way be commended for using accurate and technically correct words.

It's not an accurate term. That is a modern term applied to a long-gone practice. Furthermore, most of these marriages were purely political in an attempt to ally tribes to expand the Muslim presence in Arabia.

Shazz

Dec 28th 2007, 8:43 pm

Muslims with some of there religion is related to killing. If you put it that way I don't see how its insulting :|

wisdomtool

Dec 28th 2007, 8:50 pm

Muslims kill, Christians kill, Catholics kill, Buddhist kill, Jews kill....

Every religion has their bad eggs, not just Muslims or Jews. This is an over generalization.

Muslims with some of there religion is related to killing. If you put it that way I don't see how its insulting :|

Shazz

Dec 28th 2007, 8:59 pm

Muslims kill, Christians kill, Catholics kill, Buddhist kill, Jews kill....

Every religion has their bad eggs, not just Muslims or Jews. This is an over generalization.

No but its part of there religion!!. A muslim said it in the news when his bro. suicide bombed himself. And the brother said he will go to heaven with allah -.-

wisdomtool

Dec 28th 2007, 9:01 pm

It is a muslim, it is not ALL muslim, it can be a Jew, a Catholic, a Christian.......

No but its part of there religion!!. A muslim said it in the news when his bro. suicide bombed himself. And the brother said he will go to heaven with allah -.-

tushardhoot1

Dec 28th 2007, 9:39 pm

Christian Examples: KKK, Hitler, Kings of Medieval Ages

Can someone find Jewish examples?

Every religion has its bad apples, or bad eggs, as wisdomtool pointed out.

spark911

Dec 28th 2007, 9:39 pm

It is a muslim, it is not ALL muslim, it can be a Jew, a Catholic, a Christian.......
plus In addition: form your own damn (informed) opinion)

You could find one muslim against the violence thing for every one for it, no doubt. Just as there are divisions in all religions.

It is just unfortunate that the Muslim religion was an era of tribes and war, and people fail to read it in the context of the times, and simply want to apply the principles of the day to modern times - which can't happen.

techblog

Dec 28th 2007, 9:45 pm

this could be a bit off topic although it relates to the posts above. When was the last time a Christian or Jewish person decided it would be good idea to blow themselves up..?

Shazz

Dec 28th 2007, 11:27 pm

This should now be moved to politics and religion forum lol

wisdomtool

Dec 28th 2007, 11:28 pm

Israel do not need to blow themselves up, they have some of the best USA made planes and missiles. Bush have all the cruise, fighter planes and mighty arsenal behind his back. He do not need to hijack an aircraft to act as missiles, he has plenty himself.

simplyg123

Dec 29th 2007, 12:44 am

Christian Examples: KKK, Hitler, Kings of Medieval Ages

Can someone find Jewish examples?

Every religion has its bad apples, or bad eggs, as wisdomtool pointed out.

These cults are not of christ

wisdomtool

Dec 29th 2007, 12:56 am

Fundamentalists in the Jewish religion?

These cults are not of christ

simplyg123

Dec 29th 2007, 1:02 am

Fundamentalists in the Jewish religion?

Not sure what you are asking, but im simply saying the kkk and hitler and such groups are not christian

Lpspider

Dec 29th 2007, 1:35 am

Calling someone a pedophile isn't an insult???? What planet do you live on???

He wasn't insulting someone, a user, on the forum. Publish, historical, and fictional characters are fair game.

simplyg123

Dec 29th 2007, 8:34 am

Calling someone a pedophile isn't an insult???? What planet do you live on???

Do you know the story of Muhammad? He married children. This day and age he is a pedophile. No its not and insult its the truth of this day and age.

oh and the planet would be earth 2007

peter_anderson

Dec 29th 2007, 9:12 am

he shouldnt be banned. muslims aint exactly the friendliest religon are they?

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 9:22 am

The Politics and Religion forum specifically states that: Personal attacks include any attacks on someone's personal life, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ETHNICITY, or personal habits. at
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=512154

GTech made a post that is deeply offensive to muslims. He made a vile insult at Islam and at the Prophet Mohammed that muslims follow.

You can read his post at http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5797560&postcount=121

Why didn't this asshole get banned????

Well calling Mohammed a paedophile is not a personal attack since Mohammed is not registered here, however you calling someone an “asshole” is a personal attack you should be banned just by your own standards.

I find islam insulting to me because I’m an atheist, yet we allow hateful verses from the quaran to be posted, should I demand all muslims be banned or just anything that comes from the quaran?

Muslims are the vilest of animals. Personally, I say show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to muslims. Muslims are perverse. Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips. Fight those Muslims who are near to you. Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified.

But he only switched the hate directed to one set of people to another, then you moan but it’s ok when those verses are personal attacks against me? who are muslims the supreme beings?

Also there seems to be a new breed of bitchfest muslims who go around reporting anything un-islamic or even considered to be un-islamic, for example someone was reporting the thread which states Mohammed is a popular UK name, like WTF?

Mia

Dec 29th 2007, 9:57 am

Mia

Dec 29th 2007, 10:01 am

More of GTech insults:

GTech's insults? Ah, aren't you a Muslim? Are you telling me you do not even recognize a direct quote from your own holy book?

That was a quote from the "Koran".

Nice try at misleading people. Why not try and keep things in the context in which they were posted.

bogart

Dec 29th 2007, 10:47 am

Do you know the story of Muhammad? He married children. This day and age he is a pedophile. No its not and insult its the truth of this day and age.

oh and the planet would be earth 2007

I did some research on the subject and discovered the following facts:

In Iran as of June 2002 it is legal for a 9 year old girl to marry with her parents’ permission

The United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) reports in refugee camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan that half the girls married by age thirteen

Why are facts offensive?

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 12:18 pm

Well calling Mohammed a paedophile is not a personal attack since Mohammed is not registered here, however you calling someone an “asshole” is a personal attack you should be banned just by your own standards.

I find islam insulting to me because I’m an atheist, yet we allow hateful verses from the quaran to be posted, should I demand all muslims be banned or just anything that comes from the quaran?

But he only switched the hate directed to one set of people to another, then you moan but it’s ok when those verses are personal attacks against me? who are muslims the supreme beings?

Also there seems to be a new breed of bitchfest muslims who go around reporting anything un-islamic or even considered to be un-islamic, for example someone was reporting the thread which states Mohammed is a popular UK name, like WTF?

BTW Rep comments like this "Fuck off you smut mother fucker" do not help your cause & are also personal attacks (directed to the muslim that can't face facts)

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 12:26 pm

Well calling Mohammed a paedophile is not a personal attack since Mohammed is not registered here, however you calling someone an “asshole” is a personal attack you should be banned just by your own standards.

Funny how someone from UK doesn't know his own language...
Personal attacks include any attacks on someone's personal life, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ETHNICITY, or personal habits. . Do you need explanation?

I find islam insulting to me because I’m an atheist, yet we allow hateful verses from the quaran to be posted, should I demand all muslims be banned or just anything that comes from the quaran?

So again gtech should be banned because except him I don't recall anyone else was posting things you claim should be forbiden here.

But he only switched the hate directed to one set of people to another, then you moan but it’s ok when those verses are personal attacks against me?

Than report gtech because he posting personal attacks against you. :D

who are muslims the supreme beings?

I allways wanted to ask that question about Jews because as I can see from what you guys posting everyone on planet earth can do wrong 'cept Jews.

Y
Looks like that is three times you called a member here at DP an "asshole" point blank..

Looks like you are guilty of the very rules you quoted...

Why aren't you banned?

And why aren't you banned? Accussing people for supporting terrorism isn't personal attack? Being terrorist supporter isn't criminal act in US these days huh?

GTech's insults? Ah, aren't you a Muslim? Are you telling me you do not even recognize a direct quote from your own holy book?

That was a quote from the "Koran".

Nice try at misleading people. Why not try and keep things in the context in which they were posted.

That wasn't quote at all. You claim to have copy of Koran so scan page where it is says:Muslims are the vilest of animals. Personally, I say show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to muslims. Muslims are perverse. Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips. Fight those Muslims who are near to you. Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified. I would love to see that.

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 12:35 pm

. Do you need explanation?

You mean changing the verses to reference muslims is insulting your religious beliefs but when the verses are used in the correct context ie; execute & hate infidels they are fine:rolleyes:

So again gtech should be banned because except him I don't recall anyone else was posting things you claim should be forbiden here.

But he changed the words to muslims so that is fine, you play it the other way like that right?

Than report gtech because he posting personal attacks against you. :D

No actually it's your book not GTech, he didn't write hateful verses in the quran the was big MO;)

I allways wanted to ask that question about Jews because as I can see from what you guys posting everyone on planet earth can do wrong 'cept Jews.

Jews, yes damn them Jews.....

menj1980

Dec 29th 2007, 12:36 pm

If mods were to ban the people here who insult and spew hatred against Muslims, it would take weeks to get through the list, so i feel its better to ban those people who rise up against who insults Muslims, coz they are just handful and easy job for the mods too!

Meth_

Dec 29th 2007, 12:41 pm

"why didn't this asshole get banned?"

rofl

that's a personal attack right there

and fyi, he didn't attack anyones religious beliefs
afterall he did have sex with a 9 year old... (http://muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm)

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 12:48 pm

You mean changing the verses to reference muslims is insulting your religious beliefs but when the verses are used in the correct context ie; execute & hate infidels they are fine:rolleyes:

It's not my religion at all. Sorry to disspoint you. Keep trying, one day you will actualy post accurate fact.

But he changed the words to muslims so that is fine, you play it the other way like that right?

Later on he posted real quotes from Koran (at least he claims those are reals. I never had read Koran so I don't know) and you said they are insulting for you so why didn't you reported him for posting things from Koran? :)

No actually it's your book not GTech, he didn't write hateful verses in the quran the was big MO;)

No actually it's not my book but that's something you simply can't understand because you're blinded by your hate. Object of your hate are Muslims so anyone that doesn't share your hate must be a Muslim!

Jews, yes damn them Jews.....

Muslims,yes damn them Muslims....

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 1:41 pm

It's not my religion at all. Sorry to disspoint you. Keep trying, one day you will actualy post accurate fact.

It still does not change the fact that your making a song & a dance about nothing, by saying that if you change one group of people to another in the verse it's insulting but in the original context it is fine to hate & kill infidels.

Later on he posted real quotes from Koran (at least he claims those are reals. I never had read Koran so I don't know) and you said they are insulting for you so why didn't you reported him for posting things from Koran? :)

They were not insulting to me because they were reversed to the people who created them.

No actually it's not my book but that's something you simply can't understand because you're blinded by your hate. Object of your hate are Muslims so anyone that doesn't share your hate must be a Muslim!

If your truly not a muslim your doing a good job so far!

Muslims,yes damn them Muslims

Yes muslims, the quran, tell me where does Jews fit into to this thread?

bogart

Dec 29th 2007, 2:02 pm

BTW Rep comments like this "Fuck off you smut mother fucker" do not help your cause & are also personal attacks (directed to the muslim that can't face facts)

The rep I received was "Fuck off you smut asshole" :eek:

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 2:07 pm

It still does not change the fact that your making a song & a dance about nothing, by saying that if you change one group of people to another in the verse it's insulting but in the original context it is fine
to hate & kill infidels.

Anything that you say doesn't change one simple fact: gtech posted what he posted ONLY with attention to attack and insult whole religion. If I am wrong he wouldn't make that apology to admins/moderators.

They were not insulting to me because they were reversed to the people who created them.
:rolleyes:
But you've said:"I find islam insulting to me because I’m an atheist, yet we allow hateful verses from the quaran to be posted, should I demand all muslims be banned or just anything that comes from the quaran?". As far as I remember gtech posted those "hateful verses from the quaran" so according to your logic he should be banned. Check again what he posted after he got banned and unbanned.

If your truly not a muslim your doing a good job so far!

Thanks! I am honored that you hate me too! :)

Yes muslims, the quran, tell me where does Jews fit into to this thread?

I allways wanted to ask that question about Jews because as I can see from what you guys posting everyone on planet earth can do wrong 'cept Jews so when you mentioned supreme beings question was simply there!

bogart

Dec 29th 2007, 2:11 pm

Originally Posted by Toopac
Yes muslims, the quran, tell me where does Jews fit into to this thread?

I allways wanted to ask that question about Jews because as I can see from what you guys posting everyone on planet earth can do wrong 'cept Jews so when you mentioned supreme beings question was simply there!

What are you talking about now?

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 2:14 pm

What are yiu talking about now?

Well, you guys claim that it's impossible that Jews done one single thing wrong so they must be supreme beings. I didn't knew that until now. You learn something new every single day. :)

Meth_

Dec 29th 2007, 2:16 pm

Well, you guys claim that it's impossible that Jews done one single thing wrong so they must be supreme beings. I didn't knew that until now. You learn something new every single day. :)

but we blame 9/11 on the jews
jews did 9/11
didn't you hear?

AutumnBreeze

Dec 29th 2007, 2:19 pm

It looks like this thread has turned into a P&R discussion instead of feedback.

Have you tried reporting the posts you deem offensive?

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 2:19 pm

but we blame 9/11 on the jews
jews did 9/11
didn't you hear?

Nope but I've heard about a lot of trolls around here...

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 2:23 pm

Anything that you say doesn't change one simple fact: gtech posted what he posted ONLY with attention to attack and insult whole religion. If I am wrong he wouldn't make that apology to admins/moderators.

Are you sure that is why they were posted? only GTech knows why, but since we are guessing; it could also be to show everyone how hateful the quran is towards mere infidels could it not?

The original verses are sick & twisted right? YES // NO?

I allways wanted to ask that question about Jews because as I can see from what you guys posting everyone on planet earth can do wrong 'cept Jews so when you mentioned supreme beings question was simply there!

Jew fetish, anti-American & anti-European by your own admission, are you sure you are not muslim?

Meth_

Dec 29th 2007, 2:26 pm

lololol

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jews+did+9%2F11&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

bogart

Dec 29th 2007, 2:28 pm

Well, you guys claim that it's impossible that Jews done one single thing wrong so they must be supreme beings. I didn't knew that until now. You learn something new every single day. :)

I still don't know what you are trying to say. But by the tone of it anyway I take it you have a problem with Jews.

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 2:33 pm

Are you sure that is why they were posted?

I am 100% sure. Period.

The original verses are sick & twisted right? YES // NO?

Nothing more and nothing less than all other "nice" things written in other "holly" books. Should we quote something from Old testament and compare that to those verses?
Those things was written in different times if you didn't know. Back in a time US had slaves and your own country had colonies and enslaved entire nations and it was normal back then.

Jew fetish, anti-American & anti-European by your own admission, are you sure you are not muslim?

:rolleyes:
I don't know how can you sleep with all those Muslims around... Aren't you scared? :rolleyes:

I still don't know what you are trying to say. But by the tone of it anyway I take it you have a problem with Jews.

Sure, I need to agree with you guys or I will labeled as anti-semite, right? I didn't see that one coming at all... :)

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 2:51 pm

Nothing more and nothing less than all other "nice" things written in other "holly" books. Should we quote something from Old testament and compare that to those verses?
Those things was written in different times if you didn't know. Back in a time US had slaves and your own country had colonies and enslaved entire nations and it was normal back then.

Would that be a yes or a no? since your not a muslim there should be no problem answering such a simple question.

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 3:33 pm

Would that a yes or a no? since your not a muslim there should be no problem answering such a simple question.

I've already answered your question but it wasn't what you want to hear,right? :)

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 3:35 pm

I've already answered your question but it wasn't what you want to hear,right? :)

You did not answer, lets try again;

The original verses are sick & twisted right? YES // NO?

Yes, no, yes, no
Yes, no, yes, no
Yes, no, yes, no
Yes, no, yes, no
Yes, no, yes, no
:rolleyes:

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 3:38 pm

You did not answer, lets try again;

The original verses are sick & twisted right? YES // NO?

Nothing more and nothing less than all other "nice" things written in other "holly" books. Should we quote something from Old testament and compare that to those verses?
Those things was written in different times if you didn't know. Back in a time US had slaves and your own country had colonies and enslaved entire nations and it was normal back then.

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 3:42 pm

Nothing more and nothing less than all other "nice" things written in other "holly" books. Should we quote something from Old testament and compare that to those verses?
Those things was written in different times if you didn't know. Back in a time US had slaves and your own country had colonies and enslaved entire nations and it was normal back then.

So that's a no then, there is nothing wrong with the verses being directed towards infidels, but they are hateful against muslims when reversed, thanks for the confirmation.

Even if all the other books are evil it does not make verses in the quran less evil, they are still evil.

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 3:45 pm

So that's a no then, thanks for the confirmation.

Thanks for putting word in my mouth. That's something new around here. :rolleyes:

Even if all the other books are evil it does not make verses in the quran less evil, they are still evil.

So Jews and Chatolics following evil books,right? Simply yes or no should do. Thanks.

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 3:47 pm

Thanks for putting word in my mouth. That's something new around here. :rolleyes:

So Jews and Chatolics following evil books,right? Simply yes or no should do. Thanks.

Jews again:rolleyes:

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 3:49 pm

Jews again:rolleyes:

Can you just answer question with simply yes or no? Is it that hard for you?

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 3:51 pm

Can you just answer question with simply yes or no? Is it that hard for you?

It was too hard for you, now your coming back in the role of a hypocrite like before over the verses.

What has jews got to do with this thread, the verses from the quran or banning GTech?

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 4:00 pm

It was too hard for you now your coming back in the role of a hypocrite like before?

If anyone is hypocrite here it is you.

What has jews got to do with this thread, the verses from the quran or banning GTech?

I'm making a point: there's no simple answer on your question. There can't be simple yes or no. And I've said Jews and Chatolics and their holly books but somehow you only see problem in mentioning Jews...
And you refuse to answer my question about "evil books" and yet demanding yes or no answer from me! Hmmmm who's hypocrite here?

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 4:40 pm

If anyone is hypocrite here it is you.

I'm making a point: there's no simple answer on your question. There can't be simple yes or no. And I've said Jews and Chatolics and their holly books but somehow you only see problem in mentioning Jews...
And you refuse to answer my question about "evil books" and yet demanding yes or no answer from me! Hmmmm who's hypocrite here?

Lol is all i have to say;

Must be Stupid Saturday today:D

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 4:46 pm

Lol is all i have to say;

Must be Stupid Saturday today:D

Well, I didn't expected anything else from you anyway. I was wondering when you will post some crap when you have nothing to say. I've seen that so many times here and Mia is perfect example of that posting pattern. At the end, when he doesn't have anything to say he start trying to be funny and witty just like you did right now. Well, you failed like he failed so many times: you are not funny at all.

Must be Stupid Saturday today :rolleyes:

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 5:02 pm

Your replies are nonsensical, circular with an hidden agenda, that is why I’ve done with you.

Gee how long do you think someone will try & talk to a brick wall?:D

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 5:10 pm

Your replies are nonsensical, circular with an hidden agenda, that is why I’ve done with you.

Gee how long do you think someone will try & talk to a brick wall?:D

Nope, you're done with me because you are too scared to answer my question: "So Jews and Chatolics following evil books,right?".
Have a nice day. :)

bogart

Dec 29th 2007, 5:22 pm

Thanks for putting word in my mouth. That's something new around here. :rolleyes:

So Jews and Chatolics following evil books,right? Simply yes or no should do. Thanks.

That's what I am wondering too. Every couple of minutes I see you mention Jews when it has nothing to do with this thread.

iggysick

Dec 29th 2007, 5:28 pm

That's what I am wondering too. Every couple of minutes I see you mention Jews when it has nothing to do with this thread.

So I am not allowed to compare quotes from holly books from other religions if we are talking about quotes and "quotes" from holly books? Can you point me to that rule,it's something new for me.

Thanks for the rep btw to who ever give it altough I have an pretty clear idea who it was :)
Only thru anonymus reps some people have guts to say what they really mean:
fuck your piece of shit religious belies, this world will be better without you shit color bastard

Mia

Dec 29th 2007, 6:49 pm

And why aren't you banned? Accussing people for supporting terrorism isn't personal attack? Being terrorist supporter isn't criminal act in US these days huh?

Because I do not possess enough infractions to warrant a ban. Make sense?

That wasn't quote at all. You claim to have copy of Koran so scan page where it is says: I would love to see that.

I believe Will already did. If I have to reiterate for you, it's probably not worth it. It's apparently not getting through.

"why didn't this asshole get banned?"

rofl

that's a personal attack right there

That it is.

and fyi, he didn't attack anyones religious beliefs
afterall he did have sex with a 9 year old... (http://muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm)

That he did.

The rep I received was "Fuck off you smut asshole" :eek:

Those are always my favorite.. The things is, when I get them, they are always gray and never count because the people giving them lack enough positive rep to make an impact.

Nothing more and nothing less than all other "nice" things written in other "holly" books. Should we quote something from Old testament and compare that to those verses?
Those things was written in different times if you didn't know. Back in a time US had slaves and your own country had colonies and enslaved entire nations and it was normal back then.

Oooh, Yeah! More Old Testament quotes.. Cool.. :rolleyes:

Yes, Europeans enslaved people, and exported that sick practice to the US. The US ended slavery faster than any other nation on earth. Many of those nations that exported it to the US, STILL practice it. Not a very good point there iggy...

What's next, gonna rip on how women were not allowed to vote at one time in the US? :rolleyes:

simplyg123

Dec 29th 2007, 7:12 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by bogart View Post
The rep I received was "Fuck off you smut asshole"
Those are always my favorite.. The things is, when I get them, they are always gray and never count because the people giving them lack enough positive rep to make an impact.

thats funny i got a similar one

Go fuck your smut ass with GTech

keep an eye out for the "smut" word, we may find the culprit, he's obviously a coward

Mia

Dec 29th 2007, 7:20 pm

Yeah, I got the Fuck off you smut mother fucker one too.. How original!

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 8:14 pm

Nope, you're done with me because you are too scared to answer my question: "So Jews and Chatolics following evil books,right?".
Have a nice day. :)

If you have the balls; answer my question first, which was asked first & can you answer in the way i asked, i will then do the same for your question, but until you have guts i will treat you as gutless & you won't get an answer - Sounds fair? besides you don't seriously care about the answer you just want to know if your perceived enemies are treated the same right?

I'm not religious so i don't see why you put so much effort into a questions that you think would be hard to answer.

So lets try again;

The original verses are sick & twisted right? YES // NO?

Toopac

Dec 29th 2007, 8:19 pm

Yeah, I got the Fuck off you smut mother fucker one too.. How original!

It must be a volatile Christian (:rolleyes:) taking offense to the quran verses being posted, further proof of this being a Christian would be that they have not learnt the different between "smut" & "smug" in the English language yet.

simplyg123

Dec 29th 2007, 9:51 pm

It must be a volatile Christian (:rolleyes:) taking offense to the quran verses being posted, further proof of this being a Christian would be that they have not learnt the different between "smut" & "smug" in the English language yet.

Sorry friend, this person might claim Christianity, but a mouth like that doesn't know Christ

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 1:32 am

Because I do not possess enough infractions to warrant a ban. Make sense?

Not at all. Rules said that personal attacks will get you banned without any warnning or infractions.

I believe Will already did. If I have to reiterate for you, it's probably not worth it. It's apparently not getting through.

Nope. The quote was from hate site and not from Koran. Gtech said that but you missed it as I can see.

Oooh, Yeah! More Old Testament quotes.. Cool.. :rolleyes:

Yes, Europeans enslaved people, and exported that sick practice to the US. The US ended slavery faster than any other nation on earth. Many of those nations that exported it to the US, STILL practice it. Not a very good point there iggy...

What's next, gonna rip on how women were not allowed to vote at one time in the US? :rolleyes:

Funny how you relate Old Testament to your nation and slavery instead to those who follow it. I wonder why... And I'm curious: which European country still practice slavery? :)

If you have the balls; answer my question first, which was asked first & can you answer in the way i asked, i will then do the same for your question, but until you have guts i will treat you as gutless & you won't get an answer - Sounds fair? besides you don't seriously care about the answer you just want to know if your perceived enemies are treated the same right?

I'm not religious so i don't see why you put so much effort into a questions that you think would be hard to answer.

So lets try again;

The original verses are sick & twisted right? YES // NO?

Not at all. All those things are written in diferent times and they are not any diferent than things writen in Torah or Bible. If they were written today they may be sick and twisted but seeing how much racism exists in todays world they would sound like neo-con bible. GRIM already posted some quotes from Bible in thread where gtech was posting his crap:
http://bible.cc/luke/19-27.htm
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Bring my enemies, who didn't want me to be their king. Kill them in front of me.'"

King James Bible
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

American Standard Version
But these mine enemies, that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Are those things sick and twisted too? For me not at all. All those things writen in those times where written so dramatic probably with purpose to shows Gods might. And I am sure there's similar quotes from all other holly books but again I believe they are not sick or twisted at all.
You call them sick and twisted with one reason only: if they are sick and twisted people who follow book from where those verses coming from are sick and twisted too and that's why you should be banned too and that's why gtech should be banned. Not for posting facts or "facts", not for posting quotes or "quotes" but because of spreading hate. The only purpose of his post was to insult and he should be banned. Period.

bogart

Dec 30th 2007, 3:57 am

Funny how you relate Old Testament to your nation and slavery instead to those who follow it. I wonder why... And I'm curious: which European country still practice slavery? .

The only countries that continue to practice slavery are muslim countries.

The Muslims enslaved 25 million African people and another 10 to 14 million were killed by arab slave traders.

Non-Muslims refusing to convert to Islam or pay the Jizzya protection/ subjugation tax were considered to be at war with the Muslim "ummah" and enslaved.

Between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and enslaved between the 16th and 19th centuries.

As recently as the 1950s, the Saudi Arabia’s slave population was estimated at 450,000 — just 20% of the population.

In Sudan and Mauritania muslim slavery of black Aftricans continues to this day. 20% of the Mauritania’s population, up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, are currently enslaved.

You are offended by GTECH discussing the koran. Are you offended about the genocide in Dafur?

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 4:01 am

Non-Muslims refusing to convert to Islam or pay the Jizzya protection/ subjugation tax were considered to be at war with the Muslim "ummah" and enslaved.

Islam enslaved 25 million African people to the Arab slave trade.

Between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and enslaved between the 16th and 19th centuries.

As recently as the 1950s, the Saudi Arabia’s slave population was estimated at 450,000 — just 20% of the population.

In Sudan and Mauritania muslim slavery of black Aftricans continues to this day. 20% of the Mauritania’s population, up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, are currently enslaved.

And that's the answer on my question: which European country still practice slavery?!? :eek: :confused:

You are offended by GTECH discussing the koran.

Posting crap quotes from hate sites only to insult one religion is hardly "discussing the koran"...

Are you offended about the genocide in Dafur?

As I can see whole world is offended with genocide in Darfur that they've send millions of troops to stop that genocide! As I can see you're so offended with that genocide that you do nothing than trying to stop it! Btw are you offended with genocide commited in Srebrenica?

bogart

Dec 30th 2007, 4:09 am

And that's the answer on my question: which European country still practice slavery?!? :eek: :confused:

You never heard of the Jizzya tax and muslim slavery of africans and europeans?

templates

Dec 30th 2007, 4:18 am

You never heard of the Jizzya tax and muslim slavery of africans and europeans?

at the high risk of some lame red rep,seems that some have not read up on their history?Current and Past...cant we all just get along and not be such "Thin Skinned"where we are offended everyday?I see post and jokes all the time about the US and southerners and i although i feel alot is misplaced,i dont really give a fuck,how people perceive me ya know?As far as religion,sorry to tell ya'll but NONE IS PERFECT

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 4:19 am

You never heard of the Jizzya tax and muslim slavery of africans and europeans?

:rolleyes:
Sorry, I have to ask you again: what that have to do with my question?
To answer yours: yes, I know about those things and I am pretty sure that US will invade Sudan to liberate all those slaves there. Or maybe won't...what do you think? Sudan still have slaves and they are shelter for terrorist so my guess would be that US will invade that country. :)

Toopac

Dec 30th 2007, 5:12 am

Iggy you still have no substance & duck the question.

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 5:38 am

Iggy you still have no substance & duck the question.

I answered your question but you don't like the answer. It's your problem.

Toopac

Dec 30th 2007, 5:49 am

I answered your question but you don't like the answer. It's your problem.

Yes that is right your answer was not good enough, an answer saying these verses when directed towards infidels are ok, but reverse the meaning then muslims & wannabes say they are sick & people should be banned (atleast it's not beheaded:p), double standards.

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 6:03 am

Yes that is right your answer was not good enough, an answer saying these verses when directed towards infidels are ok, but reverse the meaning & muslims & wannabes say they are sick & people should be banned (atleast it's not beheaded:p), double standards.

Twisting what I've said is another pattern that you guys use when you have no any argument left. I would love to quote me where I did said anyone should be banned because he's sick or that gtech posted sick stuff.

My point was not to insult another religion...,
...
First, let me step up to the plate and apologize to the administrator/moderators.
...

English is not my native language but from what gtech posted I can understand he wanted to say this: My point was not to insult another religion but I am aware that I did that so I apologize to administrator/moderators.

Again, posting something with only intention to insult someone personaly or his religion beliefs should be forbiden and according to rules it is but gtech got away with it so he can continue to spread his hate and with posting crap from hate sites.

leet

Dec 30th 2007, 6:10 am

The only countries that continue to practice slavery are muslim countries.

The Muslims enslaved 25 million African people and another 10 to 14 million were killed by arab slave traders.

Non-Muslims refusing to convert to Islam or pay the Jizzya protection/ subjugation tax were considered to be at war with the Muslim "ummah" and enslaved.

Between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and enslaved between the 16th and 19th centuries.

As recently as the 1950s, the Saudi Arabia’s slave population was estimated at 450,000 — just 20% of the population.

In Sudan and Mauritania muslim slavery of black Aftricans continues to this day. 20% of the Mauritania’s population, up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, are currently enslaved.

You are offended by GTECH discussing the koran. Are you offended about the genocide in Dafur?

Jizya is right, but about Muslims and enslaving.. that's totally wrong. Whatever source you got that from, is based on lies. Enslaving was always done by European countries, after all, wasn't it the only reason of WWI? You guys just couldn't share the Africa.

bogart

Dec 30th 2007, 7:13 am

Jizya is right, but about Muslims and enslaving.. that's totally wrong. Whatever source you got that from, is based on lies. Enslaving was always done by European countries, after all, wasn't it the only reason of WWI? You guys just couldn't share the Africa.

Leet this is not an attack on anyone. I'm just try to bring up some facts.

The Arab/Muslim Slave Trade is well documented

My source is Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

leet

Dec 30th 2007, 7:25 am

Leet this is not an attack on anyone. I'm just try to bring up some facts.

The Arab/Muslim Slave Trade is well documented

My source is Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

Arabs are not equivalent to Muslims.

bogart

Dec 30th 2007, 7:42 am

Arabs are not equivalent to Muslims.

The Slave trade was based on Jizya and enslaving non-muslims

Yes that is right your answer was not good enough, an answer saying these verses when directed towards infidels are ok, but reverse the meaning then muslims & wannabes say they are sick & people should be banned (atleast it's not beheaded:p), double standards.

There are a lot of people blinded by extremism.

There's a guy in PR that has the Hezbollah flag as his avatar. Is a terrorist flag offensive?

browntwn

Dec 30th 2007, 7:52 am

Arabs are not equivalent to Muslims.

Nobody says they are. Just read the link, as it describes the Islamic and Arab slave trade.

leet

Dec 30th 2007, 7:55 am

Nobody says they are. Just read the link, as it describes the Islamic and Arab slave trade.

Then maybe you should tell me why Ottomans were never into enslaving although they were the biggest Muslim community back then? Enslaving is not allowed in Quran itself even.

edit: I saw the article on wiki says "1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates, who were vassals of the Ottoman Empire, and sold as slaves between the 16th and 19th centuries." That is totally wrong. Ottomans never supported enslaving.

bogart

Dec 30th 2007, 8:00 am

Arabs are not equivalent to Muslims.

Slaves are mentioned in at least twenty-nine verses of the Qur'an

Islam and slavery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_slavery

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 8:14 am

i am a muslim and i dont think people have the right to talk about the holy quran, and talking and swearing to Muhammed, i see that most of you that are not muslims are talking hate to muhammed and the quran, you guys dont even know the real explanation of the quran and you talk like u know every single word of it and also i dont see muslims in this forum talk and hate about the bible and the jesus since they are mentioned in the holy quran and even the israel also was mentioned and the jewish bible, i dont see muslims being skeptical about that because they have faith and belief in God. You all just wanna put down muslims and mention along time ago that we had slaves, thats the past, u see a muslim killing then you conclude that all muslims kill and love killing and are terrorists well i think the reason for muslim EXTREMISTS kill inncoent people is because of your ideas and how you guys swaer to the quran and make fun of Muhammed. There is a verse in the Quran that says: sorry this is in arabic dont know the translation: "lakom deenakom wa leya deeni" that means if i meet people on this forum for example and are good friends, and are really close like brothers even with are religion difference doesn't mean we can't be friends and doesn't mean if your not a muslim you should die God only has the authority and judges who dies and who doesn't and in the end God punishes and forgives who deserve it.

Jasperrr

Dec 30th 2007, 8:18 am

Calling someone a pedophile isn't an insult???? What planet do you live on???

Damnit I know that you guys don't like it that your prophet get's insulted, but don't you think that you are overreacting a bit.

No offense but the whole Muslim world goes crazy when some people draw a cartoon about him, and someone calls him a pedophile and suddenly every Muslim feels insulted.
Sorry but it is Mohammed that get's insulted not you.

And maybe - sadly enough - they don't have freedom of speech in your country, but in most countries we have Freedom of Speech. Which means that one can says whatever he wants without being proscecuted or being attacked by a whole group.

mikey1090

Dec 30th 2007, 8:29 am

this thread should be moved. its now a P & R thread...

bogart

Dec 30th 2007, 8:47 am

I just found this link from an adsense ad in this thread.

http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com

Anyone outraged that Google advertises http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 8:47 am

i didn't say that i was insulted, but Muhammad and thus whole islamic religion, In the past in muhammads days in the long past he didn't force anybody to become a muslim, and there was alot against muslims and islam but they all became muslims and they were not forced or threatned to become muslims, you should search and read about the islam in Muhammad's days and think you will be surprised. by the way i am not intentionally insulting any religion but the jews who are defending hate against muslim and islam but didn't jesus get tortured and cruscified by the jew as seen in the movie by mel gibson (passion of the christ) why isn't anybody writing hate to jews, or is that they hurted jesus but not christians isnt jesus the christian's God?

Also didn't hilter torture jews in the holocost and hitler was christian so why don't jews insult christians and jesus

Everybody is against muslims and nobody thinks about the past, sorry to say some people are really ignorant and God help us all!

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 8:55 am

teddybearmuhammad.com

Well thats insulting this is the first time i see this well i think who sees it from muslims should take act but by using our brain no our hands.

Toopac

Dec 30th 2007, 9:01 am

I just found this link from an adsense ad in this thread.

http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com

Anyone outraged that Google advertises http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com

LOL, funny site i love it:)

bogart

Dec 30th 2007, 9:08 am

Originally Posted by bogart
I just found this link from an adsense ad in this thread.

http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com

Anyone outraged that Google advertises http://www.teddybearmuhammad.com

LOL, funny site i love it:)

Again I found this link from an adsense ad on this site.

Why is the site offensive?

Toopac

Dec 30th 2007, 9:11 am

Again I found this link from an adsense ad on this site.

I'm not surprised, isn't google run by Jews?

:rolleyes:

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 9:19 am

This is insulting would you like to see a thing like that but written on it jesus i am a muslim and i wouldnt like to see any holy name on it

would you yes/no?

wisdomtool

Dec 30th 2007, 9:35 am

No, I won't find it insulting.

Just to add, Jesus teaches us to love, not to jail someone over a teddy bear named after him

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 9:56 am

its not about naming a teddy bear or something its about respect.

wisdomtool

Dec 30th 2007, 9:57 am

Jesus does not teach us to kill those who insulted him.

its not about naming a teddy bear or something its about respect.

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 9:57 am

for Gods sake!! there making fun of a porphet or if it was jesus they owuld be making fun of christians GOD!!!

wisdomtool

Dec 30th 2007, 10:00 am

Yes, but the good thing is they dun murder, they dun set fire to cars and houses, they don't riot. Because there is something called freedom of speech and freedom of belief. Lots of us would be angry but not to the extent of creating violence.

for Gods sake!! there making fun of a porphet or if it was jesus they owuld be making fun of christians GOD!!!

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 10:02 am

who said anything about killing if other muslims which are extremists kill that doesnt mean moderate muslim kill for that we use our brains and words but to make fun of anything else like something holy to the jews or christians is forbidden so you see mulims make fun of anything related to religious matter related to christians or jews?

wisdomtool

Dec 30th 2007, 10:07 am

If my memory doesn't fail me the Iranians did organize a cartoon drawing competition of Jesus Christ. But did Christians burn cars, threaten to bomb buildings etc?

wisdomtool

Dec 30th 2007, 10:09 am

I think we digressed too far away from the original thread.

mjomha

Dec 30th 2007, 10:37 am

If my memory doesn't fail me the Iranians did organize a cartoon drawing competition of Jesus Christ. But did Christians burn cars, threaten to bomb buildings etc?

Iranians are a different part of muslims called shiate they in way extremists not all but most iranians are extremists and dont like us sunni muslims to them i think jews and us are the same enemy

Mia

Dec 30th 2007, 10:56 am

It must be a volatile Christian (:rolleyes:) taking offense to the quran verses being posted, further proof of this being a Christian would be that they have not learnt the different between "smut" & "smug" in the English language yet.

Ok, "smug" makes more sense.. So it was a moron that posted the remark..

Not at all. Rules said that personal attacks will get you banned without any warnning or infractions.

Ok, well I have not personally attacked anyone, hence I have not been banned.. How's that.

Nope. The quote was from hate site and not from Koran. Gtech said that but you missed it as I can see.

No, it was directly from "Koran", with one small exception. Gtech changed the Jew/Infidel parts and substituted them with "Muslim" instead. The fact that you still do not get this makes me wonder if you may suffer from some learning disability? Is there anything we can do to help? Should I send you a copy of the "Koran" so you can read those passages yourself?

Funny how you relate Old Testament to your nation and slavery instead to those who follow it. I wonder why... And I'm curious: which European country still practice slavery? :)

I don't relate the Old Testament to anything.. I'm not the one continually bringing the Old Testament up. We abolished slavery here a long time ago. Several Muslim countries still practice slavery. Countries in Africa, (the place that bred/invented slavery still use it as well.

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 12:12 pm

Ok, well I have not personally attacked anyone, hence I have not been banned.. How's that.

So calling someone asshole is personal attack but accussing someone for supporting terrorism isn't? Isn't supporting terrorism a crime in US? Accussing someone to be a criminal isn't personal attack?

No, it was directly from "Koran", with one small exception. Gtech changed the Jew/Infidel parts and substituted them with "Muslim" instead. The fact that you still do not get this makes me wonder if you may suffer from some learning disability? Is there anything we can do to help? Should I send you a copy of the "Koran" so you can read those passages yourself?

No, it was not directly from "Koran" and gtech didn't changed anything and he said that clearly:I posted those words, directly from the source:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/Quran_Hate.htm
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5816738&postcount=160
The fact that you still do not get this makes me wonder if you may suffer from some reading disability?

I don't relate the Old Testament to anything.. I'm not the one continually bringing the Old Testament up.We abolished slavery here a long time ago. Several Muslim countries still practice slavery. Countries in Africa, (the place that bred/invented slavery still use it as well.

That doesn't change the fact that you had slavery at one point in history and that it was normal to have slaves in US. But you didn't answer my question: which European country still practice slavery? Wasn't your point that Europeans bring slavery to US? Btw if you think that I will defend UK you are totally wrong here hehehehehe. UK enslaved whole nations as I already said and that too was normal at one point in the history.

Mia

Dec 30th 2007, 12:24 pm

So calling someone asshole is personal attack but accussing someone for supporting terrorism isn't? Isn't supporting terrorism a crime in US? Accussing someone to be a criminal isn't personal attack?

The definition of a personal attack here is up to the judgment of the individual mods, not you and me..

No, it is not illegal in the US to be a terrorist sympathizer...

No, it was not directly from "Koran" and gtech didn't changed anything and he said that clearly:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5816738&postcount=160
The fact that you still do not get this makes me wonder if you may suffer from some reading disability?

Yeah, it was.... If you cannot see that, you have not read the passage.

That doesn't change the fact that you had slavery at one point in history and that it was normal to have slaves in US. But you didn't answer my question: which European country still practice slavery? Wasn't your point that Europeans bring slavery to US? Btw if you think that I will defend UK you are totally wrong here hehehehehe. UK enslaved whole nations as I already said and that too was normal at one point in the history.

I did not have anything at one point... I was not around and none of my ancestors ever owned a slave, or practiced slavery.

I did answer you question..

Yes, Europeans brought slavery to the US.. Slavery was not invented in the US. In fact, those slaves brought here were sold by some of their own people.

Now I am not sure what slavery has to do with Getch, bans or Muslims... So perhaps we can move on now?

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 1:01 pm

The definition of a personal attack here is up to the judgment of the individual mods, not you and me..

You done that several times in this thread already.

No, it is not illegal in the US to be a terrorist sympathizer...

"Sympathizer" is now huh? Not "supporter"? :)
You don't even have a guts to back your own words huh?

Yeah, it was.... If you cannot see that, you have not read the passage.

Sure, you know better than gtech where from he quoted it...

I did not have anything at one point... I was not around and none of my ancestors ever owned a slave, or practiced slavery.

I did answer you question..

Yes, Europeans brought slavery to the US.. Slavery was not invented in the US. In fact, those slaves brought here were sold by some of their own people.

Now I am not sure what slavery has to do with Getch, bans or Muslims... So perhaps we can move on now?

:rolleyes:
Damn those evil Europeans! All bad things done in US are done by Europeans (all Europeans 'cept Mia's ancestors,just to make it clear ;) )!

Mia

Dec 30th 2007, 1:03 pm

You done that several times in this thread already.

Really? Where?

"Sympathizer" is now huh? Not "supporter"? :)
You don't even have a guts to back your own words huh?

No, they are yours... Supporter, Sympathizer.. What is the difference?

Sure, you know better than gtech where from he quoted it...

The "Koran"

:rolleyes:
Damn those evil Europeans! All bad things done in US are done by Europeans (all Europeans 'cept Mia's ancestors,just to make it clear ;) )!

If you say so...

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 1:14 pm

Really? Where?

"why didn't this asshole get banned?"

rofl

that's a personal attack right there
That it is.

Looks like that is three times you called a member here at DP an "asshole" point blank..

Looks like you are guilty of the very rules you quoted...

Why aren't you banned?

No, they are yours...

So you didn't say: "Hezbullyah, like most bully terrorists are cowards who hid behind women and children to do their dirty deeds... The end result is, a lot of civilians get killed. You should be ashamed for supporting such sick people..."?
Ok than, my apology.

The "Koran"

So gtech lied when he said that he posted quote from thereligionfopeace website huh?

Mia

Dec 30th 2007, 1:25 pm

So you didn't say: "Hezbullyah, like most bully terrorists are cowards who hid behind women and children to do their dirty deeds... The end result is, a lot of civilians get killed. You should be ashamed for supporting such sick people..."?
Ok than, my apology.

What you quoted were quotes from someone else I quoted that said "asshole", actually called Gtech an "Asshole" three times...

As for my comments about a terrorist organization, that could really only be offensive to someone who is a member. Are you saying you are a Hezbullyah member?

I've not insulted or attacked a member, or a religion.. The DP guidelines do not spell out insults to terrorist organizations has a bannable offense.

So gtech lied when he said that he posted quote from thereligionfopeace website huh?

The quotes come from your very own holy book..

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 1:33 pm

What you quoted were quotes from someone else I quoted that said "asshole", actually called Gtech an "Asshole" three times...

You confirmed that was personal attack and in second quote you were asking why someone wasn't banned and that isn't judgement huh? Ok, if you say so...

As for my comments about a terrorist organization, that could really only be offensive to someone who is a member. Are you saying you are a Hezbullyah member?

I've not insulted or attacked a member, or a religion.. The DP guidelines do not spell out insults to terrorist organizations has a bannable offense.

Claiming for someone that he supports terrorist group isn't attacking someone?!? Ok again, if you say so...

The quotes come from your very own holy book..

It's not my holy book but like you care about facts and reality at all.
Just in case you've missed it I will once again quote gtech ;)
I posted those words, directly from the source:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/Quran_Hate.htm

Mia

Dec 30th 2007, 1:38 pm

You confirmed that was personal attack and in second quote you were asking why someone wasn't banned and that isn't judgement huh? Ok, if you say so...

Yes, the person you quoted me quoting made a personal attack..

Claiming for someone that he supports terrorist group isn't attacking someone?!? Ok again, if you say so...

Quoting someone that called someone an "asshole"? WTF?

You are more confused than I thought.

It's not my holy book but like you care about facts and reality at all.
Just in case you've missed it I will once again quote gtech ;)

I think you know full well what the quote was about, where it comes from, and what the point was... You just want it to appear like you do not.

You're not that dense...

iggysick

Dec 30th 2007, 1:44 pm

Yes, the person you quoted me quoting made a personal attack..

But "The definition of a personal attack here is up to the judgment of the individual mods, not you and me.." right? :rolleyes:

Quoting someone that called someone an "asshole"? WTF?

You are more confused than I thought.

Lol I guess you messed something up? :D

I think you know full well what the quote was about, where it comes from, and what the point was... You just want it to appear like you do not.
You're not that dense...

I know what was that quote about,where it comes from (gtech said it and I believe him) and I know what the point was and that's why gtech made apology to administrator-moderators and that's why I believe he deserved to stay banned once he got banned. Period.