Why Does MSN get backlinks so quick

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Assured99

Feb 10th 2006, 9:23 am

MSN is finding my backlinks very quickly but google and yahoo seem to be lagging behind is there a real reason for this ? or is it that it just takes time for the other two to catch up ?

unknownseo

Feb 10th 2006, 9:27 am

MSN seems to have it's spider follow more links right away. The also tend to visit more often than others. Google and Yahoo may be a little more selective about following links. It appears that Google, at times, knows about a link, but may not follow it until it has "confirmation" of the link. That is generally made by there being mulitple links.

Assured99

Feb 10th 2006, 9:33 am

I see any idea on how long it might take for google to get their act togeather

Edz

Feb 10th 2006, 10:02 am

MSN and Yahoo just display more backlinks in contrast to Google.
Google will always show less backlinks for some reason.

Therefor it might appear MSN and Yahoo show backlinks faster then Google i guess.

NameWolf

Feb 10th 2006, 11:35 am

I think it may be due to Google's sandbox method where once a site gets submitted, it does not get any prominent exposure for 8-12 months no matter what.

Arasp

Feb 10th 2006, 12:49 pm

I think it may be due to Google's sandbox method where once a site gets submitted, it does not get any prominent exposure for 8-12 months no matter what.
No. It cannot be the reason. My website is indexed in Google for more than 8 months, It's been about one month I have started SEO, I have about 50 backlinks in the other websites, MSN shows only a few of them but not Google.

Assured99

Feb 10th 2006, 2:45 pm

No. It cannot be the reason. My website is indexed in Google for more than 8 months, It's been about one month I have started SEO, I have about 50 backlinks in the other websites, MSN shows only a few of them but not Google.
so your having the same problem as me MSN shows 15 back links when google and yahoo show 0 its like whats goin on here
my site is also indexed with google

DuncanM

Feb 10th 2006, 3:19 pm

Google is definitely more discriminating about the backlinks it recognizes.

You are correct, MSN--and Altavista--pick up backlinks almost immediately. But I am not sure if this is a good thing. This means they sometimes pick up links from temporary content (for example, from an RSS feed) which a webmaster might not even want found. I have an RSS feed coming into my site covering space-related news. I noticed when NASA's Pluto mission was about to launch, several visitors arrived at my site by doing searches for "Pluto mission" and my site was picked up in this regards only because several of the incoming newsfeeds covered the topic--not because of any static content on my site. (Not that I am complaining about the extra traffic.)

Assured99

Feb 10th 2006, 3:46 pm

that is interesting what do u use to get the traffic information

DuncanM

Feb 10th 2006, 5:27 pm

that is interesting what do u use to get the traffic information

At the moment I am using a free tracker from Extreme Tracking (http://extreme-dm.com/tracking/). I am told the paid version is MUCH better, but the free version gives me more than enough information already (number of hits, IP addresses, referrers, etc.).

I have also signed up for Google Analytics and am anxious to start using it; however, it seems like I joined the wait list an eternity ago and still have not heard back from them.

Arasp

Feb 11th 2006, 11:43 am

MSN index the title of the websites very fast (Comparing the Google)

Please search "Comprehensive Web Hosting Directory" in MSN
and do the same in Google.

My website will be the 1st in MSN result
But It is not even in the first 1000 results of Google.
Do you think it is because of the pagerank? If so, why MSN does not care about the pagerank of the site?

Dustin07

Feb 14th 2006, 4:08 pm

I see any idea on how long it might take for google to get their act togeather

2 weeks to 1 month to longer. They are just slow.

I'm ranked #1 on MSN right now for computer cables (http://www.tca-inc.net) but yahoo and Google don't even bring me up in the top 150 for that word. It's been this way for a few weeks now.

On the flip side, MSN ranks me at about 5 for carcasherdotcom seocontest (http://www.jakeyourlilly.com/seocontests/carcasherdotcom-seocontest.html), Yahoo at 4 and Google at 7. MSN indexed me far faster and has kept it top 10 for a month. Yahoo has been all over the place.

Google though........ Last to index me. Indexed at about 40th. Then slowly every couple days it has gained a few positions until it landed on about 7th now.

Whats that mean? I don't know. I'd like to believe that something like my computer cables (http://store.tca-inc.net) listing on MSN is a sign of things to come on Y! and Google, but only time will tell.

Do you think it is because of the pagerank? If so, why MSN does not care about the pagerank of the site?

I think there's a few things going on. First... Since MSN spiders much more, it also spiders the sites linking to you more, and any weight it puts on those links is going to be shown to you much quicker through better search results.

If Google is moving slow, then they are probably visiting your backlinks slow as well.

And for PR... I don't believe MSN puts much weight on it. Google still does I belive though, I think high PR sites get spidered more often, and therefore the sites they link to do as well. Yahoo is somewhere in the middle.

A lot of SEO's think PR is getting phased out. I don't know if thats true, I think it has it's place, although It isn't the most important thing, IMO.

Blunter

Feb 14th 2006, 4:30 pm

I believe the bigdaddy infrastructure change, will make the google bot faster and more able to follow links. MSN serps might be hopeless but it's bot is certainly not.

Brad Callen

Feb 15th 2006, 8:20 pm

Google dont update "shown" backlinks anywhere near as often as MSN and Yahoo.

I would say that to every PR update (usually every 3 months or so) there is 2 or 3 backlink updates.

It is normal to rank high in MSN very early, but dont expect any love from google for a while if your site is new.

Also google doesnt rank sites based directly on PR. PR discussion is an entirely new thread of information. But the relevance it has in SERP placement is rather small.

Brad

Mitch

Feb 24th 2006, 2:16 pm

I will have to agree, MSN is on the ball when it comes to spidering. It took only a day or two for them to index a brand new site, and they began following a large number of our internal links immediately. Yahoo has been somewhat active, finding our site after about a week, but Google refuses to admit that we exist. I keep adding back links; we will see how many it takes for Google to bite.

Assured99

Feb 24th 2006, 3:17 pm

i got page 4 with my keyword hospital bed now 1 aty a time here we come

pachecus

Feb 24th 2006, 3:22 pm

msn spider the url really fast, the same day I submit one of my sites the msn robot crawl my homepage.

devin

Feb 24th 2006, 10:34 pm

up to now i have 347 links from MSN and 7 from yahoo and 0 for google.

Assured99

Feb 25th 2006, 1:59 pm

This is going to make me vomit! I will beat Google! nothing will stop me

Bounce House Man

Mar 9th 2006, 7:18 pm

After submitting my site to google a year ago and never ranking well, I finally broke down and registered with google sitemap. It took 6 hours for them to accept my sitemap.xml that I made from a free site on the web. Google has since then visited my site once a day. Yet, only visits one page each time. It seems that adding a robots.txt has helped a bit too. Since I have submitted my sitemap less than 5% of my site has been indexed. I have at least 20 backlinks but google has yet credit them. I have also used googles webrankings tool. Hopefully when my site becomes more popular, it will be of more help. I was surprised to see that my site at least had a ranking of 2 outta 10. Hopefully I can double that by next month!

Does anyone know if there is penalties for webpages being 3 levels or more deep?

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Suggestions welcomed on how to improve my site...
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FireStorM

Mar 10th 2006, 12:11 pm