Tableless Design Tutorial?

[zeruel]

Hi guys,

I'm looking can you help me find a nice tableless design tutorials?

I know a little of how it goes but I want to study and practice more about table less designs..

So if you guys got some nice tutorial sites there, hope you could help me out.

Thanks a lot... ;)

[bnandika]

I learn from htmldog.com and buy the book HTML Dog: The Best Practice Guide to XHTML and CSS by Patrick Griffiths

[sky2high]

no, don't buy anything. buying is for nubcakes. uh, in order to make a table-less design, you're probably going to need to know css. if you don't know how then this won't be of much help(if you don't know css i can try to help you with that, but it'd have to be over msn or somethin)

[rochow]

www.htmldog.com

[Salsa_Boy]

No harm in having books, even the experts always have some on their shelves. Just be sure you are getting a good, advanced one.

[soulscratch]

no, don't buy anything. buying is for nubcakes. uh, in order to make a table-less design, you're probably going to need to know css. if you don't know how then this won't be of much help(if you don't know css i can try to help you with that, but it'd have to be over msn or somethin)

So I assume you can comprehend everything in Michael Bowers book "Pro HTML and CSS Design Patterns" ?


It seems like all the sites I see on here are from like 10th level black belts in web design. I, unfortunately, feel like the only person who is somewhat of a web design noob. Does anyone out there have a cheap site and still make some money?


So you're the expert, eh?

[bnandika]

no, don't buy anything. buying is for nubcakes. uh, in order to make a table-less design, you're probably going to need to know css. if you don't know how then this won't be of much help(if you don't know css i can try to help you with that, but it'd have to be over msn or somethin)

Hope you can teach more than htmldog.com , good luck :)

[soulscratch]

What's so special about htmldog? How about reading directly from the specifications themselves at w3.org?

[Dan Schulz]

zeruel, depending on your level of experience with HTML, I'd suggest either Build Your Own Web Site The Right Way Using HTML & CSS (http://www.sitepoint.com/books/html1) by Ian Lloyd or HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS, 2nd Edition (http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css2) by Rachel Andrew & Dan Shafer. The former would be if you're new to HTML, while the latter would be appropriate if you have some HTML experience under your belt but need to know how to code using semantic markup and CSS rather than layout tables.

[motex]

XHTML and CSS, more content, less code. Very portable.

www.w3school.com/css

Web standards, and code validators. Great site to get started. If your having trouble, always use them as reference, but when going into design, you really should find sites related to that. Like,

www.pixel2life.com

I believe it is in the Web Development Section, CSS. Either try keyword template, layout, or liquid design.

Best of luck.

[rochow]

What's so special about htmldog? How about reading directly from the specifications themselves at w3.org?

The specifications are just that - specifications.

Not tutorials.

[slavingia]

Honestly, the way I learnt it was just getting one of my designs coded, and then using that as a template to code another similar design by myself. Don't copy/paste, just retype.

Goodluck!

[rochow]

Honestly, the way I learnt it was just getting one of my designs coded, and then using that as a template to code another similar design by myself. Don't copy/paste, just retype.

Goodluck!

Similar to me, just trialed & errored my way, never used a tutorial until very recently (and I've been coding for 6 years) to learn all the things that I hadn't encountered yet...