View Full Version : No idea how 9 K unique hits possible is it Awstats issue?
paidhosting
Nov 12th 2007, 6:07 pm
Ok first of all not sure where thread like this would go, so posting it here, please feel free to move around.
So i checked today awstats of one of the sites (http://www.mydirectoryrank.webdirectoryreviews.com/) i run and check out the screenshot of the awstats how is such a thing possible, whats actually happening ? Any idea?
is that real traffic or fake hits or something ?
http://www.webdirectoryreviews.com/randomimages/stats-directory-rank.jpg
:confused::confused:
Crazedplanet
Nov 12th 2007, 6:47 pm
have you gone up in search engine rankings? look at the section which informs you about where traffic is coming from if it is search engines than good for you!!
BlueDevilMedia
Nov 12th 2007, 6:49 pm
Install Google Analytics and never ever EVER open awstats again in your life.
paidhosting
Nov 12th 2007, 6:57 pm
Install Google Analytics and never ever EVER open awstats again in your life.
Oh, i got analytic online but it shows double the traffic in nov. but not as high numbers as awstats does, compared awstats of other sites too and with analytic weird they are totally different, so ur saying awstats sucks and should rely on analytic only ?
ForgottenCreature
Nov 13th 2007, 11:19 am
Oh, i got analytic online but it shows double the traffic in nov. but not as high numbers as awstats does, compared awstats of other sites too and with analytic weird they are totally different, so ur saying awstats sucks and should rely on analytic only ?
That's because awstats relies on everything that your site does. Page reloads count as a unique visitor. Multiple visits from the same user counts as a unique visitor.
Pageviews are hits according to Awstats. Pageviews are images, etc.
paidhosting
Nov 13th 2007, 2:00 pm
That's because awstats relies on everything that your site does. Page reloads count as a unique visitor. Multiple visits from the same user counts as a unique visitor.
Pageviews are hits according to Awstats. Pageviews are images, etc.
I doubt awstats counts pageviews as hits and from same ip visit multiple times as unique hits , thats just not right.
Jean-Luc
Nov 13th 2007, 2:10 pm
I doubt awstats counts pageviews as hits and from same ip visit multiple times as unique hits , thats just not right.Sure!
The differences come from:
- AWStats sees the visitors who have disabled JavaScript; Google Analytics doesn't;
- AWStats separately counts the hits on images and all other files that Google Analytics cannot count; AWStat doesn't count these hits as pages and it doesn't count a visit when someone only views images;
- AWStats sometimes counts new web robots as visitors, when these robots are not known in AWStats data base.
Jean-Luc
kissmyarse
Dec 2nd 2007, 3:59 am
I've often wondered exactly this, there seems to more of a stats disconnect between GA & serverside stats than I'd expect.
The javascript blockers is certainly going to be one reason, but GA can see them (but not track them) and gives me a rate of around 10-12% of people have JS blocked. (Visitors / Browser / Java Capabilities).
Also if someone were to directly access an image (through a Google images etc) the GA tracking urchin isn't in that page.
I'll example the full thing here.
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December 1st 07
Google Analytics
1 hit
100% bounce
1 keyword
1 pageview
Server Side
Confirmed via awstats/analog and via my apache log file for that day(!)
27 visits
30 pages
45 hits
In my apache log I have;
22 unique IP addresses
2 bots (Google & Alexa)
29 hits to html/php/xml pages
6 different browsers (spotted by user-agent)
Activity in 16 different hours during the day
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Confusion reigns supreme...
k
paidhosting
Dec 2nd 2007, 11:15 am
I've often wondered exactly this, there seems to more of a stats disconnect between GA & serverside stats than I'd expect.
The javascript blockers is certainly going to be one reason, but GA can see them (but not track them) and gives me a rate of around 10-12% of people have JS blocked. (Visitors / Browser / Java Capabilities).
Also if someone were to directly access an image (through a Google images etc) the GA tracking urchin isn't in that page.
I'll example the full thing here.
-------------------------------------------------
December 1st 07
Google Analytics
1 hit
100% bounce
1 keyword
1 pageview
Server Side
Confirmed via awstats/analog and via my apache log file for that day(!)
27 visits
30 pages
45 hits
In my apache log I have;
22 unique IP addresses
2 bots (Google & Alexa)
29 hits to html/php/xml pages
6 different browsers (spotted by user-agent)
Activity in 16 different hours during the day
-------------------------------------------------
Confusion reigns supreme...
k
So does that mean nothing out there can actually track to an accuracy of 95% or more ?
kissmyarse
Dec 3rd 2007, 4:08 pm
If only I knew... I'm still trying to get my head round the differences. Don't Quantcast do an urchin too? Perhaps i'll investigate.
k
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