View Full Version : #6 on Google, #27 on Yahoo - how to optimize?
korzon
Nov 6th 2007, 6:59 am
My arcade site www.playedonline.com ranks very well on Google for "Free Games" and "Free Online Games" but not very well on Yahoo.
Can anyone shed some light on the differences and what I can do to improve my Yahoo rankings?
Claudek
Nov 6th 2007, 7:02 am
You may want to read the thread - How to Optimize for Yahoo! (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=488172)
My arcade site www.playedonline.com ranks very well on Google for "Free Games" and "Free Online Games" but not very well on Yahoo.
Can anyone shed some light on the differences and what I can do to improve my Yahoo rankings?
bomberman
Nov 6th 2007, 7:32 am
That article have some similarities on google on-page optimization.
fatwallet
Nov 6th 2007, 1:11 pm
Pay $299.00 and get into the yahoo directory.
Nosfer
Nov 6th 2007, 2:24 pm
that's the best pick. yahoo tends to rank higher websites that are in their directories.
mrcrowley
Nov 6th 2007, 2:57 pm
Pay $299.00 and get into the yahoo directory.
Either that or just forget about yahoo. Google has most traffic.
uranus
Nov 6th 2007, 3:00 pm
I will take google rank on any keyword.
cosmocentral
Nov 6th 2007, 3:24 pm
You don't have to include your site to Yahoo directory. I have a site which had very little traffic from Yahoo, included in Yahoo directory. After 9 months it Yahoo started sending me good traffic. Yahoo seem to act different on how they determine ranking on SERPs. Only thing you can do is optimize and wait.
Either that or just forget about yahoo. Google has most traffic.
Yahoo has more traffic (yahoo alexa 1/ google alexa 2) Read up more seo on yahoo.
dimmakherbs
Nov 6th 2007, 4:36 pm
i think yahoo gets alot front page hits from people for directories and email, but doesn't mean that people use them to search. My wife has a yahoo mail account and has never searched with them before. The last stats i remember reading is Google=60%+ search traffic or something like that. That leaves 40% divided between Yahoo and everyone else....
Vic_mackey
Nov 6th 2007, 4:42 pm
Yahoo has more traffic (yahoo alexa 1/ google alexa 2) Read up more seo on yahoo.
1. Alexa means nothing.
2. Even if Yahoo does have more traffic, google has more search traffic.
I would agree with forgetting about yahoo, optimise everything for google. If yahoo sends you good traffic then thats a bonus, its not worth aiming for.
Claudek
Nov 6th 2007, 5:54 pm
You should stop giving bad advice such as this.
Any webmaster who forgets about Yahoo traffic and focuses on Google only is a failure. Any SEO giving that advice is a shamster.
You should always try to get as much traffic from more than one search engine. Should one decide to screw you in the SERPs, at least you still get the traffic from the other SEs.
You may also want to do a search here on DP on Yahoo traffic and conversions. From my own experience, Yahoo users tend to click more on Ads and buy items than Google users. Other webmasters have seen similar results and have been focusing on getting more of this traffic
Getting listed in Yahoo Directory is good if you are a business. There are some good ways to get targetted traffic when you are listed.
You can do well in Yahoo without being listed in it though for general websites.
1. Alexa means nothing.
2. Even if Yahoo does have more traffic, google has more search traffic.
I would agree with forgetting about yahoo, optimise everything for google. If yahoo sends you good traffic then thats a bonus, its not worth aiming for.
Vic_mackey
Nov 6th 2007, 6:00 pm
Well the simple fact is google is, by a huge margin, the biggest traffic provider. If I've got a site doing well in google, I'm not going to do anything to the site that google might not like. I wouldn't say its bad advice, its just an opinion. If you think its worth the gamble of damaging your google traffic for the chance of a small increase in traffic from somewhere else, thats your gamble.
Claudek
Nov 6th 2007, 6:15 pm
What happens if one day Google decides to drop your SERPs?
I am not sure why you think doing any optimisation for Yahoo would affect Google results. I generally optimise a website for Yahoo first and find Google indexes them well in its SERPs. Some minor adjustments may be required later as with all SEO. This has worked well for me so far as I have many pages on the 1st page SERPs for both Google and Yahoo (still working on MSN/LIVE).
Well the simple fact is google is, by a huge margin, the biggest traffic provider. If I've got a site doing well in google, I'm not going to do anything to the site that google might not like. I wouldn't say its bad advice, its just an opinion. If you think its worth the gamble of damaging your google traffic for the chance of a small increase in traffic from somewhere else, thats your gamble.
Blogspotter
Nov 6th 2007, 6:53 pm
I say you increase the keyword density of the target keyword and phrases.. Yahoo seem to love keywords if it is not too competitive. But then, It might affect google ranking mind you.
kewlchat
Nov 6th 2007, 6:55 pm
I cant get hits from yahoo or google hardly to save my life...
but on all my sites msn search usually loves me lol :D
so i love them back :D
zippy1nut
Nov 7th 2007, 4:48 pm
Yahoo has been tough for one of my sites which dominates in msn & google for the highest terms with results over 120,000,000. Yahoo hates me I guess.
consumertreehouse
Nov 7th 2007, 5:37 pm
I am having the same problem with Yahoo. When I get it fixed I will let you know what I did. Good Luck
Zibblu
Nov 7th 2007, 5:45 pm
Yahoo has more traffic (yahoo alexa 1/ google alexa 2) Read up more seo on yahoo.
He's referring to more search traffic.
viperxx
Nov 7th 2007, 6:08 pm
Either that or just forget about yahoo. Google has most traffic.
yahoo = most traffic
google = knows how to make money
MarketExpert
Nov 7th 2007, 6:26 pm
Google gives you a high ranking because of your backlinks. Yahoo will give you an excelent ranking if you get a link from a high ranking site in yahoo.
Minterest
Nov 9th 2007, 9:40 pm
Wow..... Your AdSense that 468 X 60 banner looks awesome........ I think u have a good CTR for that....
stickycarrots
Nov 10th 2007, 6:33 am
you will start ranking in yahoo in time
Remotay
Nov 10th 2007, 6:36 am
Google has A LOT more search queries than Yahoo. Thats what he meant.
Al Capone
Nov 12th 2007, 2:02 am
yahoo = most traffic
google = knows how to make money
Yep. I second that. Google is better and monetizing there traffic (as well as our traffic >.< )
Yahoo! is lame, they accept maybe 1% of people who apply, there loss :P
RichUser
Nov 12th 2007, 4:30 am
Claudek is right. I always do my best to rank well on Google and Yahoo. Since Google is more unstable, I need a backup. Though Yahoo is only has about 1/3 of the search traffic of Google.
rudeturk
Nov 12th 2007, 7:11 am
Yahoo has more traffic (yahoo alexa 1/ google alexa 2) Read up more seo on yahoo.
they have less traffic but more pageviews
bomberman
Nov 12th 2007, 7:33 am
Pay $299.00 and get into the yahoo directory.
There are also free directories that have good PR. I prefer the free one than to pay dollars.
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