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billion
Oct 27th 2007, 4:11 pm
Please help me understand if the latest PR update target sites that buy/sell links more than it targets sites that don't buy/sell links.

jdg
Oct 27th 2007, 4:14 pm
No.

My personal opinion is that this update actually just devalues links found in the footer/possibly long lists of links in the sidebar.

Several of the more notable sites that lost PR did not sell paid links. One or more of the sites that lost PR were large blog networks that used the PR of the more popular blogs to lift the entire ship. Where are those links typically found? In the footer / as part of the blogroll.

WebMilitant
Oct 27th 2007, 4:23 pm
Yeah thats something I thought about too, particularly links in footers.

billion
Oct 27th 2007, 4:35 pm
No.

My personal opinion is that this update actually just devalues links found in the footer/possibly long lists of links in the sidebar.

Several of the more notable sites that lost PR did not sell paid links. One or more of the sites that lost PR were large blog networks that used the PR of the more popular blogs to lift the entire ship. Where are those links typically found? In the footer / as part of the blogroll.

Possible. Do you think they punish(PR leaking) sites using links in this way or just make those links useless(not sending PR)? Maybe a mix?

jdg
Oct 27th 2007, 4:38 pm
Possible. Do you think they punish(PR leaking) sites using links in this way or just make those links useless(not sending PR)? Maybe a mix?


I'm not sure. In the past, when devaluing sites, they've just made those links useless. With all of the FUD flying around right now the only way we're going to know for sure is to do tests for ourselves. Maybe someone over at SEOmoz would be willing to do one, similar to the reciprocal linking post from awhile back.

Nosfer
Oct 27th 2007, 6:12 pm
well i'm not buying... i'm not selling, and got bigger PR :p

billion
Oct 28th 2007, 11:34 am
well i'm not buying... i'm not selling, and got bigger PR :p

The same here but I got less PR. :(

Union
Oct 28th 2007, 11:38 am
I'm not buying or selling and I had a sizable increase.

njoker555
Oct 28th 2007, 11:39 am
the "last" pr update is still happening lol, no one can draw conclusions cuz everyone's PR is jumping up and down, especially some of my sites

ssandecki
Oct 28th 2007, 11:56 am
I don't buy or sell text links, all my sites maintained the same PR. I did rise very will in my SERPs!

billion
Oct 28th 2007, 11:58 am
the "last" pr update is still happening lol, no one can draw conclusions cuz everyone's PR is jumping up and down, especially some of my sites

That's also strange because none of my sites jump up and down. They seems to be fixed at the new PR. :confused:

login
Oct 28th 2007, 12:07 pm
I buy and sell links and I gain PR on all my sites. Do it the right way and you will never lose :) All the best.
I have been trying to say for a long time that you have to treat google as a smart human being. I think that now, the people that dont treat google as a human being are losing PR.

ssandecki
Oct 28th 2007, 12:15 pm
That's also strange because none of my sites jump up and down. They seems to be fixed at the new PR. :confused:

They still might change, update isn't over yet. It could takes a month or so for all we know.

Rasputin
Oct 28th 2007, 12:26 pm
I previously bought and sold links (I just removed them and paid people back) and I lost PR, but I think I lost PR because I was listed in quite a few directories that lost PR rather than my own activities.

Ironically, my own directory didn't lose PR although some of my other sites did.

Hafsoh
Oct 28th 2007, 12:30 pm
I neither buy nor sell links but get greater PR

conker_on_net
Oct 28th 2007, 12:38 pm
I have not seen any change in my pr following this last update. I have a feeling it hasnt quite reached my sites yet.

I have a couple of links that are paying to be on the homepage, which I am now seriously considering taking down. For the little they make it is so not worth undoing all the hard SEO work I have been doing.

ssandecki
Oct 28th 2007, 12:39 pm
I have not seen any change in my pr following this last update. I have a feeling it hasnt quite reached my sites yet.

I have a couple of links that are paying to be on the homepage, which I am now seriously considering taking down. For the little they make it is so not worth undoing all the hard SEO work I have been doing.

I would do it asap, but I'm sure even if you remove it now they already know it was\has been there :(

conker_on_net
Oct 28th 2007, 12:43 pm
That really sucks. Thanks for the heads up, I will get them off sharpish.

ssandecki
Oct 28th 2007, 12:46 pm
That really sucks. Thanks for the heads up, I will get them off sharpish.

Make sure, if you can, get refund that is due! :cool:

conker_on_net
Oct 28th 2007, 12:49 pm
Yeah, I will do thanks.

guidyy
Oct 28th 2007, 12:54 pm
No link trade.
My free dir has been unranked
My free (I do not even ask for backlink) link section on the recipe site has been unranked

billion
Oct 29th 2007, 7:07 am
Based on this "very" scientific poll above it seems like that if Google tried to target the buying and selling of links it was no success. My guess is that this was not the case. If it was the reason for this update, they need new people at Google. :)