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lostdog
Oct 24th 2007, 1:57 pm
Use to rank high in Yahoo but for the past two years not at all. Only the index page shows up when you enter site:mywebsite.com

Is this a penility?
ajsa52
Oct 24th 2007, 2:21 pm
You can try with site:www.mywebsite.com , but probably you'll get same results.
snowbird
Oct 24th 2007, 2:22 pm
Do you have a good number of links to that site?

I've noticed Yahoo will index main pages of new sites, but that it takes a couple hundred backlinks to get Yahoo to dig deeper.
onLoad
Oct 24th 2007, 3:21 pm
Probably delisted from their index. You have to check it out!
Chios
Oct 24th 2007, 3:24 pm
maybe you can try submitting your rss feed or a sitemap on the http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com sort of like the webmaster tools that google has

If you give us your URL maybe we can make a more educated guess
Gregg Hall
Oct 24th 2007, 3:40 pm
I would have to say without seeing the url that it either has to be a lack of linking or some sort of banning. My new blog www.InfoProductPodcast.com (http://www.InfoProductPodcast.com) has 15 pages indexed in Yahoo and over 200 results in Google and is under 30 days old.

Gregg
Youkay
Oct 24th 2007, 3:52 pm
had that problem with a few of my sites..

a $50 url submission to search submit basic fixed it within a month and now traffic is steady to all my sub pages :)
lostdog
Oct 24th 2007, 3:53 pm
We use to rank in the top five for our top search terms. Also most of our sites interior pages were in Yahoo search resutls before.

The site has 2658 inlinks.

I have also submitted the rss sitemap a few time over the past year.

Is there a fix?
Chios
Oct 24th 2007, 4:00 pm
there could be a fix ...

telling us the url, can stop lots of this guess game in here ...
lostdog
Oct 24th 2007, 4:12 pm
Sorry!

The site urls is: http://www.americanhomeinspectordirectory.com/
Chios
Oct 24th 2007, 4:22 pm
finally,

all this talk for nothing ...

yahoo knows about 500 of your pages (indexed)
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=www.americanhomeinspectordirectory.com
and google knows about 1200
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Awww.americanhomeinspectordirectory.com&btnG=Search

so give yahoo some more time and impove your internal link structure by including a humam sitemap but also create a sitemap for yahoo ...
lostdog
Oct 24th 2007, 4:26 pm
Chios,

Thanks for yyour help.

How did you come to the conclusion that Yahoo has 500 of my pages indexed?
Chios
Oct 24th 2007, 4:34 pm
really sorry lostdog

I actually looked at the wrong statistic on yahoo
scratch the first link on previous post

you are right
http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/advsearch?p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanhomeinspectordirectory.com&bwm=p&bwmf=s&bwmo=d
google only knows about one of you pages

let me look again


EDIT:
when was the last time that someone changed the html code on the site ?
How is the HTML outputed ?
is there a CMS behind this site that spits HTML ?

My guess is that your code structure is very bad to the point that yahoo crawlers don't know what to make of it.
Lots of carriage returns and line feeds for no reason.
And most importantly your left side menu (where the internal links reside) only comes up almost at the end of the html code.

So like I already said, improve first page's (and internal pages) linking structure and and bring your internal links closer to the <body> tag
and it might also help to get some external links to point to some important internal pages to your site (deep links) ...
lostdog
Oct 24th 2007, 5:42 pm
Thank you all your ideas. I dont think we have found the reason though.

The code is 4.01 strict and validates. The site is clean. The menu at the end of the code is not the problem. We have redesigned the site after the drop to only the index page being listed in hope to get back in.

Gregg, You have chance to look at this?
Chios
Oct 24th 2007, 6:02 pm
Well just because the code is strict and it validates it does not mean that it is favorable by the search engines !!! Try my suggestion, the code looks pretty ugly if you take a close look, and not very crawl friendly ... in my opinion ...

What are the changes you have done on the domain right before the pages in the yahoo index started dropping ?
lostdog
Oct 24th 2007, 6:22 pm
I did not make any changes befor the drop. I made them a year later.

What problems do you see with the code?

I really think we have a penalty. Have no idea why.
Chios
Oct 24th 2007, 6:26 pm
I already told you ... l

ots of carriage returns in places that they have no reason to be ... could be actually giving the crawlers a hard time

Bring the left navigation closer to the <body> tag if you can
lostdog
Oct 24th 2007, 7:37 pm
Chios,

I edited out the returns. Im not willing to move the menu at this time. Reason being that the menu was up top by the body tag for the past three years and was only moved in the past thirty days.

The site has been dropped from Yahoo search for almost two years now. We use to rock in Yahoo. #1
bhushna22
Oct 24th 2007, 8:47 pm
great psoting guys but i also think yahoo is the best indexer as google takes a lot of time
ListedHosting
Oct 24th 2007, 9:17 pm
im having the same problem with my sites. oh and i have to disagree, google does not take that much longer and overall its easier to get on.
Gregg Hall
Oct 24th 2007, 9:18 pm
My experience is the EXACT opposite. I ALWAYS get my sites indexed by Google before Yahoo or MSN.

I also ALWAYS use keyword rich domains for what I am after.

Gregg
lostdog
Oct 26th 2007, 6:25 am
I tried the $50 url submission to search submit basic. Was pending at first but is now listed as Ineligible. There is definitely some sort of penalty against the site. I am starting to dislike Yahoo. I don't know what to do next.


We rank well in Google and MSN
TheMagpie
Oct 26th 2007, 8:31 am
I'm no expert, but doesnt duplicate content get us deindexed. I see the same keyword over and over. I was under the impression that was bad. No more than 3 times per page ?
Just my 2 cents
I Love This Place
Chios
Oct 26th 2007, 9:17 am
I'm no expert, but doesnt duplicate content get us deindexed. I see the same keyword over and over. I was under the impression that was bad. No more than 3 times per page ?
Just my 2 cents
I Love This Place

one keyword repeated 3 times on the same page is not bad if the keyword is used naturally (not keyword spamming)

one keyword repeated 3 times when all the page has is 3 words then that is bad ...

moreover
one keyword repeated 25 times in a text of 35 total words would most probably be considered bad also

Remember google is trying to make the best for their customers, people that use the google search engine, so whatever is OK for a person is OK by google
lostdog
Oct 26th 2007, 11:42 am
I think are keyword density is ok. The ratio of keywords to the rest of the text. I did some checking on some of our WebPages at copyscape. There have been a lot of real estate sites that have taken our content added to their sites and given us credit and a link. Is this acceptable or should I go after them?
Chios
Oct 26th 2007, 1:16 pm
I am not an expert on duplicate content penalties but,

I think taking your stuff and linking back to you would be considered as recognizing you as the source and the SE should not have hard time understanding that

go after the ones that have not actually given a link back