Caution. There's a submitter out there who's exploiting directories!

[lifetalk]

Ok, so am not sure whether this guy is a submission service person, or a person who's fancy idea is starting up a bunch of directories and then exploiting others.

I was going through the submitted links in my directory and there were about 30+ submissions (all of them directories, all new). All of them were submitted by the same person (Sunny Bajaj).

The thing is, the guy exploits my directory by submitting 5 deeplinks and not paying for it.
I don't understand how he does it, because the 5 deeplinks option is only available for featured listings, and the listings he submits are Regular ones, not paid for, and include all 5 deeplinks!!
(Am using rakcha's deeplink mod BTW)

The guy's email address is
edited upon request

Just thought I'd inform you guys about it.
I've personally banned his IP and email address.

EDIT: Just going through my submissions, and this guy has submitted over 40 links. This IS irritating.
I guess i'll have to re-enable the image verification. (Had been disabled to facilitate people with a large number of authentic submissions.)

Any other tips..??

[Rezo]

Can you please share the ip?

[deluxdon]

Ok, so am not sure whether this guy is a submission service person, or a person who's fancy idea is starting up a bunch of directories and then exploiting others.

I was going through the submitted links in my directory and there were about 30+ submissions (all of them directories, all new). All of them were submitted by the same person (Sunny Bajaj).

The thing is, the guy exploits my directory by submitting 5 deeplinks and not paying for it.
I don't understand how he does it, because the 5 deeplinks option is only available for featured listings, and the listings he submits are Regular ones, not paid for, and include all 5 deeplinks!!
(Am using rakcha's deeplink mod BTW)

The guy's email address is
xxxx@xxxxxx.com

Just thought I'd inform you guys about it.
I've personally banned his IP and email address.

EDIT: Just going through my submissions, and this guy has submitted over 40 links. This IS irritating.
I guess i'll have to re-enable the image verification. (Had been disabled to facilitate people with a large number of authentic submissions.)

Any other tips..??

Just to let you know that he is sunny bajaj (dp member - humm) is a good person as we all know him here. Maybe there is some confusion between you and him for submissions. PM him this and clear all your doubts IMO.

[sizzler_chetan]

This is sunny bajaj - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/member.php?u=26559

Don't know exactly but i think you should check your mod correctly.

[britishguy]

Please dont throw stones before you have contacted Sunny, the correct way to deal with this is privately

Thank you for your consideration :cool:

And can you please take 1 minute to edit his email address to stop spammers trashing his email box
add [@] or similar to stop spammers

Thanks again for your kind consideration and respect for a fellow respected DP Member

Lets keep this a clean thread so the solutions to your query can duly surface :cool:

[The Pheonix]

I was going through the submitted links in my directory and there were about 30+ submissions (all of them directories, all new). All of them were submitted by the same person (Sunny Bajaj).

The thing is, the guy exploits my directory by submitting 5 deeplinks and not paying for it.
I don't understand how he does it, because the 5 deeplinks option is only available for featured listings, and the listings he submits are Regular ones, not paid for, and include all 5 deeplinks!!
(Am using rakcha's deeplink mod BTW)

Just thought I'd inform you guys about it.
I've personally banned his IP and email address.

EDIT: Just going through my submissions, and this guy has submitted over 40 links. This IS irritating.
I guess i'll have to re-enable the image verification. (Had been disabled to facilitate people with a large number of authentic submissions.)

Any other tips..??Don't jump the gun on the deeplink mod, do some dummy runs yourself, try and find out if its the script or the mod your using as one directory I'm editing for is using the same script as yours and despite everything it still gets some links through that shouldn't. Thanks for letting people know, check with this guy to see if it actually is him, and if it is and you can prove it then post shaming him, until then perhaps it would be better to keep it private. :)

[madtay]

The thing is, the guy exploits my directory by submitting 5 deeplinks and not paying for it.
I don't understand how he does it, because the 5 deeplinks option is only available for featured listings, and the listings he submits are Regular ones, not paid for, and include all 5 deeplinks!!
(Am using rakcha's deeplink mod BTW)


This is actually quite easy. Try it on your own directory, click a featured listing.. fill in all the details for the deep links then revert back to regular option and submit the listing. If you look in admin panel the deep links will be there even though your submission went through as regular.

Im also under the impression that some automated/semi-automated form fillers can complete these fields even though they are hidden.. but i cant confirm that ;)

[dargre]

This is actually quite easy. Try it on your own directory, click a featured listing..
Yeah, but it's also quite easy to secure it...

[madtay]

Yeah, but it's also quite easy to secure it...

Maybe for you being a professional phpld modder.... but im sure alot of people wont have a clue how to ;)

[mikey1090]

Maybe for you being a professional phpld modder.... but im sure alot of people wont have a clue how to ;)

A free mod brings serious lack of support, bugs and security issues. Thats why i go to professional people who have done and secured it many times, or do it myself since i am a php'r too.

[The Pheonix]

A free mod brings serious lack of support, bugs and security issues. Thats why i go to professional people who have done and secured it many times, or do it myself since i am a php'r too.

I agree that freebie mods can have problems, but would still advise anyone using any mods from people say like dargre or anon to have the programmers sign a contract because most of them no matter how good they may not have any qualifications (not always needed as many programmers are better without) or belong to any reputable organisation that governs them, so if something did go wrong then at least the buyer would get a guarantee that any loss through poor software could be covered. Also always make sure that you get the programmers correct name and address so you know who your dealing with.

I'm sure that all good programmers have nothing to hide and won't hesitate in gving correct contact details as they have nothing to hide but plenty to harm them if they don't be up front. Good luck fixing the problem.

[adnan]

Ok, so am not sure whether this guy is a submission service person, or a person who's fancy idea is starting up a bunch of directories and then exploiting others.

I was going through the submitted links in my directory and there were about 30+ submissions (all of them directories, all new). All of them were submitted by the same person (Sunny Bajaj).

The thing is, the guy exploits my directory by submitting 5 deeplinks and not paying for it.
I don't understand how he does it, because the 5 deeplinks option is only available for featured listings, and the listings he submits are Regular ones, not paid for, and include all 5 deeplinks!!
(Am using rakcha's deeplink mod BTW)

The guy's email address is


Thanks for the heads up, but my directory is pretty much unexploitable.

He can spend the next 10 years trying to submit, and nothing is going to fall through to be reviewed until paid.

[lifetalk]

Ok, I've edited his email address as requested.
I emailed him about this issue too.

Will contact him through DP too. Thanks for the suggestions.

As for people suggesting me to test it out. I've done that a numerous times. It won't automatically fill out the fields if you choose Regular Option.

Now, the reason why I say he (or whoever is using his name) is exploiting my directory is because the 5 deeplinks that he submits are all different. So, even if he is not exploiting the directory, he certainly is taking undue advantage of this issue.

Anway, I'll have this mod secured by someone, else I'll go about doing it myself (trial and error).

@madtay
Actually, there ARE scripts/programs that can submit to the deeplink fields even if they are hidden. They were kind that were used to exploit most of the phpbb forums with spam registrations.


Neway, I'll contact him, and get things sorted out with him.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys

[dargre]

I agree that freebie mods can have problems, but would still advise anyone using any mods from people say like dargre or anon to have the programmers sign a contract because most of them no matter how good they may not have any qualifications (not always needed as many programmers are better without) or belong to any reputable organisation that governs them
Best reputation is reputation built by clients - not from organisation or govern (though I'm registered as a programmer on all most important coders platforms).

I've been programming for more than 10 years, starting from coding 8 bit assembler on old Commodores and Atari.
I made hundreds of freelancer jobs on many platforms, released dozens of desktop softwares available on all most popular download centers.
Have few 5 Cow's listings on Tucows, lot on download.com, softpedia.com and many, many more.
I can code many programming languages and internet coding I find most easy among it.
Apart of it - I finished succesfully all my jobs I ever started and always try to be most polite, fair and tolerant to my clients that I can.
This is my experiance.

Directories were always more like a fun and hobby for me only.
I found really nice people here, have many new friends now, - all apart of mods, code jobs or the money.
I was never greedy for money (my prices were always preety low) as I'm older man with solid finance situation.
Also FISRT I do love life, my family, music and travels. Then if I have enough time I can play with some code.

So what about your experience and reputation? Most of people here know it so well.
Surely best you are in personal shameless attacks, never ending hate and envy, offending most of people around you - regarding of what they present.
I can't believe you don't understand you never gain any trust, respect and friendship this way.
Or maybe all those values are just worthless for you :(

[sachin410]

The answer is simple.

He is using an auto-submitter.

The auto-submitter fills up all available fields.

The mod that you are using, hides deeplink fields to regular submitters, but the fields still exist.

Thus they get filled.

Anyone using an auto-submitter will be able to fill the deeplink fields.

[The Pheonix]

Best reputation is reputation built by clients - not from organisation or govern (though I'm registered as a programmer on all most important coders platforms).

I've been programming for more than 10 years, starting from coding 8 bit assembler on old Commodores and Atari.
I made hundreds of freelancer jobs on many platforms, released dozens of desktop softwares available on all most popular download centers.
Have few 5 Cow's listings on Tucows, lot on download.com, softpedia.com and many, many more.
I can code many programming languages and internet coding I find most easy among it.
Apart of it - I finished succesfully all my jobs I ever started and always try to be most polite, fair and tolerant to my clients that I can.
This is my experiance.

Directories were always more like a fun and hobby for me only.
I found really nice people here, have many new friends now, - all apart of mods, code jobs or the money.
I was never greedy for money (my prices were always preety low) as I'm older man with solid finance situation.
Also FISRT I do love life, my family, music and travels. Then if I have enough time I can play with some code.

So what about your experience and reputation? Most of people here know it so well.
Surely best you are in personal shameless attacks, never ending hate and envy, offending most of people around you - regarding of what they present.
I can't believe you don't understand you never gain any trust, respect and friendship this way.
Or maybe all those values are just worthless for you :(What planet are you living on? I never attack anyone, stop being so paranoid. If your attitude here is anything to go by you can't have beem programming for ten years, you talk like a ten year old throwing a tantrum. I don't trust anyone I can't check up on that's a fact, as for friends, I have plenty, but one's I know that will back me when the chips are down. I won't go boasting about my 5 cows and things coz I don't have any to prove, what software is it that you developed that has the 5 cow rating? you never mentioned.

[jg123]

[QUOTE=dargre;4822766]
So what about your experience and reputation? Most of people here know it so well.

Well said dargre this guy talks about all kinds of BS and he is too embarassed to even post the name of his directories (if he really even has any).

Back to the topic of the post, I agree you should contact Sunny privately first and see if there is an explanation, perhaps a submission service is exploting the deep links.

[dargre]

from people say like dargre or anon to have the programmers sign a contract because most of them no matter how good they may not have any qualifications
Again you're joking.
How can we call it if not personal attack?
You mentioned my nick, suggesting I may not have any qualifications. Also sayin' people should better sign a contract you suggest I may be not fair.
This is more than clear.
But where are your prooves?

If it wouldn't be a forum, if you wouldn't be a simple troll, sick of hate - we would surely meet at court.
Discrediting company or a person may always hurt reputation and in some cases lost in incomes. If not having prooves (just only bla, bla) - you would surely be punished.

[lifetalk]

Umm... back to topic guys..??
This is seriously not a personal attack forum. I'd appreciate you all edit your posts out and forget personal grudges for a while.

Someone, on either side, has to tolerate and forget these attacks. It just can't go on with both of you flaming each other about personal life, friends, qualifications, etc. It is just not appropriate.


@Sachin,
Yeah, you are right about the fact that this mod simply hides the fields. If this is the case, then I'll probably quit using it, and implement the Payment System of RipenApples(Yeah, i mention it in my blog) or the other guy (forgot the name).
That is better, because it offers a lot of features for a very reasonable price.


However, what struck me, was not the fact that the guy (whoever he was), was exploiting it. It was the fact that if he found this exploit, rather than reporting it to the admin (me), he used it to his advantage to submit inner links to his directories.
That is just NOT fair, and it pisses me off. Though I don't mind forgiving him if he has a just explanation.

I've pm'd the guy here, and hope he responds. I really hope it is not him. Because he seems like (and he is) a respected member here. And I truly respect the senior DP members because they are honest (which is why they are seniors :))

So, hopefully, we won't be seeing any personal attacks here.. eh..?? Right guys.??

[SasaVtec]

his using mystik medias form filler I believe I have the same thing and if I select regular with no deeplinks it will still send deeo links because the mod is not coded right

[The Pheonix]

[QUOTE]

Well said dargre this guy talks about all kinds of BS and he is too embarassed to even post the name of his directories (if he really even has any). If you do have friends in RL I would guess you act much differently then you do on this forum.

Back to the topic of the post, I agree you should contact Sunny privately first and see if there is an explanation, perhaps a submission service is exploting the deep links.LMAO; You know you act like little kids at times honest you do. The only reason I don't post my own directories here is I don't want them associated with this forum or any other forum in any shape or form. I haven't noticed Yell.com send any representatives over here have you? What about Business.com and so on, oh, nope they haven't. :rolleyes: DP is great for some things but is massively damaging for others I've got the common sense see that hence the reason I don't publicise here. ;)

Now then to my Polish friend Dargre, the one who is so professional he has to give false details yet portrays himself as such the perfect one, did I ever get to see the software you claim to have written that got 5 cows? Nope, oh well. mind you, there's an awful lot of 5's in your fax no. maybe you got a thing about 5's? ;)

As Lifetalk said, back to subject because this isn't a place for personal attack of which if you read my threads neither did I incite or start.

So on we move....

[humm]

Apologies if this had created a problem. I have hired a submitter from past 1month who does submission jobs for me.

I faced a problem with him and his submitting to directories offer deep links with rakcha's deep links mod, since I gave him the mystikmedia form filler last time he used did it, I got a email and someone threating me since he said deep links also got submitted to his directory.

Hence I can instructed to my submitter never to submit links to directories offering deep links. Since in Rakcha's mod there is a issue in which mystikmedia's form filler acts differently.

I guess, he has submitted unknowingly. There was not intension to exploit someone's directory. I have always used proper name and email address during my submissions.

I agree that this caused a issue your end, but I guess it would be been just good if you would have sent me a email first.

Anyways, I agree that it did look like a exploit and I APOLOGIZE for the inconvenience caused to you.


Ps.: It would be great if you can report your thread and ask mods to lock it, if my apologies solves your problem. So that this thread doesn't turn to personal attacks and bashing.

[lifetalk]

Apologies if this had created a problem. I have hired a submitter from past 1month who does submission jobs for me.

I faced a problem with him and his submitting to directories offer deep links with rakcha's deep links mod, since I gave him the mystikmedia form filler last time he used did it, I got a email and someone threating me since he said deep links also got submitted to his directory.

Hence I can instructed to my submitter never to submit links to directories offering deep links. Since in Rakcha's mod there is a issue in which mystikmedia's form filler acts differently.

I guess, he has submitted unknowingly. There was not intension to exploit someone's directory. I have always used proper name and email address during my submissions.

I agree that this caused a issue your end, but I guess it would be been just good if you would have sent me a email first.

Anyways, I agree that it did look like a exploit and I APOLOGIZE for the inconvenience caused to you.


Ps.: It would be great if you can report your thread and ask mods to lock it, if my apologies solves your problem. So that this thread doesn't turn to personal attacks and bashing.


That's ok. I actually emailed you too. But I never got any reply.

Anyway, it's all ok now :)

Nothing to worry about. Next time I'll just edit the links. And, will probably get a more secure deeplink mod installed.

EDIT: I know this sounds stupid.. but.. how do i report a thread and request it to be locked?

[The Pheonix]

That's ok. I actually emailed you too. But I never got any reply.

Anyway, it's all ok now :)

Nothing to worry about. Next time I'll just edit the links. And, will probably get a more secure deeplink mod installed.

EDIT: I know this sounds stupid.. but.. how do i report a thread and request it to be locked?I think the thread will close itself now you've sorted your differences. We may all bitch now and again but we have common sense to see threads don't need to be carried on just for the sake of it. Good luck to both of you.

If you really want it closed, just look through forum rules I think its there, not sure though.