View Full Version : We got listed in DMOZ with out submiting?
emil2k
Jan 13th 2006, 12:44 am
Hey Guys,
I noticed when check AR that we got listed in DMOZ, the weird thing is the site was never submited, has this happened to anybody else?
http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=thirdsquare
BTW The site is also very young (a month or so) so I dunno
Anyways its cool but ironic (http://thirdsquare.com/dmoz-corruption-122)... :D
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 12:50 am
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :) lmao @ the blog entry :D
Will.Spencer
Jan 13th 2006, 12:53 am
It appears that this is the new DMOZ model.
This is a natural extension of their path away from processing submissions, considering user feedback, or accepting status requests.
DMOZ has adopted an "only we know anything worth knowing" culture.
A DMOZ editor felt that your site was worth listing. Congratulations! I hope the link helps out your web site. :)
emil2k
Jan 13th 2006, 12:55 am
It appears that this is the new DMOZ model.
This is a natural extension of their path away from processing submissions, considering user feedback, or accepting status requests.
DMOZ has adopted an "only we know anything worth knowing" culture.
A DMOZ editor felt that your site was worth listing. Congratulations! I hope the link helps out your web site. :)
Thanks Will,
Dont really know what to expect first time in DMOZ :D
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 1:01 am
It's really weird, everytime I like DMOZ, I see something that really bothers me ... and when I think that DMOZ is just plain shit, I see something good or have something good happen from DMOZ.
Birdie
Jan 13th 2006, 1:06 am
~50% of all sites that get added to DMOZ were never submitted.
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 1:08 am
K, now that we're in DMOZ, I can make one of my anti DMOZ posts. Just kidding :)
Michael_Goldman
Jan 13th 2006, 1:16 am
Hey Guys,
I noticed when check AR that we got listed in DMOZ, the weird thing is the site was never submited, has this happened to anybody else?
errrr :( Why it never happens to me? :eek:
emil2k
Jan 13th 2006, 1:16 am
Yeah I think an editor read my entry and maybe felt guilty...now I dunno how to feel about DMOZ use to love to rag about them... :(
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 1:30 am
We're getting noticed all over - DMOZ editors are everywhere :)
Jim_Westergren
Jan 13th 2006, 1:46 am
Congrats Emil. :)
krumel
Jan 13th 2006, 1:52 am
"Scouting"
:cool:
Will.Spencer
Jan 13th 2006, 6:06 am
Mwahahahaha!
It appears that a DMOZ editor is reading this thread.
They sent me some red, and started the comment off with the word "no" -- but it turns out that they agreed with my post!
no, it has always been like this, and people like you just ignore what editors tell you about how it works.
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 6:10 am
too funny (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=563392#post563392) timing wise.
TMan
Jan 13th 2006, 6:25 am
Mwahahahaha!
It appears that a DMOZ editor is reading this thread.
They sent me some red, and started the comment off with the word "no" -- but it turns out that they agreed with my post!
You may find this funny, but the editor is right in what he's saying. DMOZ editors were always able to add sites that weren't submitted but they thought relevant/interesting enough. So emil2k just got lucky his site was found be an editor that quick.
emil2k
Jan 13th 2006, 6:30 am
You may find this funny, but the editor is right in what he's saying. DMOZ editors were always able to add sites that weren't submitted but they thought relevant/interesting enough. So emil2k just got lucky his site was found be an editor that quick.
I guess it helps being listed number one on Google for "Dmoz Corruption (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2005-09,GGGL:en&q=dmoz+corruption&spell=1)" maybe they scan the web for that stuff...
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 6:41 am
hmm page 4 (http://www.google.com/search?q=dmoz+&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2005-09,GGGL:en&start=30&sa=N) for DMOZ. We can do page 1, can't we :)
Added: my one year old blog is page 2 msn for DMOZ (http://dmoz-stories.blogspot.com), maybe that one will help pull it up :)
wrmineo
Jan 13th 2006, 6:53 am
Congrats emil - this happened to my blog and I found the DMOZ listing by sheer luck.
No doubt, it's not a rare occurence, but rare enough that sites get found for inclusion, while crap sites remain in there and millions of other legit ones waiting for review.
Whomever red rep'd Will for having an opinion ... chickenshit!
mjewel
Jan 13th 2006, 7:09 am
When you apply to become an editor, you are required to give three examples of sites that would be appropriate for listing in the category you are applying for. It the editor's application is accepted, those three examples automatically become pending listings. Since it was the new editor who submitted those sites, the chances are pretty high they will be added.
Of course editors are able to add other sites too.
emil2k
Jan 13th 2006, 10:25 am
hmm page 4 (http://www.google.com/search?q=dmoz+&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2005-09,GGGL:en&start=30&sa=N) for DMOZ. We can do page 1, can't we :)
Added: my one year old blog is page 2 msn for DMOZ (http://dmoz-stories.blogspot.com), maybe that one will help pull it up :)
Cool didnt notice that :)
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 10:37 am
Cool didnt notice that :)
So I guess in my last DMOZ blog entry (http://dmoz-stories.blogspot.com/2006/01/dmoz-and-other-directories.html) I will add a link to your DMOZ article (http://thirdsquare.com/dmoz-corruption-122) and it should be all good :)
emil2k
Jan 13th 2006, 10:44 am
Maybe this guy (http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/topnews/wpn-60-20060112AdSenseRelevanceInBlogsRevealed.html) is an editor he seemed to like it :)
Blogmaster
Jan 13th 2006, 10:45 am
WebProWorld has a couple editors as moderators, some of which frequent DP as well.
Jat
Jan 13th 2006, 11:15 am
I got two in DMOZ without submitting. I guess in some categories the editors do not have sufficient submissions and therefore they go looking sites themselves.
riz
Jan 13th 2006, 2:13 pm
... I guess in some categories the editors do not have sufficient submissions and therefore they go looking sites themselves.
Editors are always looking for interesting sites to add to DMOZ. Reviewing sites in the suggestion pool is not considered a priority by most editors, since the majority of these suggestions are generally lacking in quality and unique content. During this week, I added close to 100 sites, none of which were suggested. Please do understand; the editing in DMOZ is a hobby or a pastime for most. It is not a job, an obligation or a commitment of any sort. That is one of the reasons why editors are more inclined to look for the sites to list themselves than rely on the suggested pool.
brizzie
Jan 14th 2006, 2:02 pm
My favorite DMOZ activity was putting small towns on the map. Pick a small town with no category let alone listings. Google on the town's name and you can normally get 5 or 6 results even for the smallest hamlet. Only got defeated once - somewhere in Kentucky even the USPS had deleted from their databases. Same for movies and bands and prominent people with no category. Probably not what webmasters want to hear but maybe 65-75% of the sites I added had never been submitted. A large majority of categories have no submitted sites waiting for review - the unreviewed submissions are generally concentrated in particular commercial categories where no volunteer feels like treading.
sarahk
Jan 16th 2006, 10:59 am
When I first started I added 400+ sites where the development company was too damn lazy to submit them. The sites are all regional, and the owners probably wouldn't know what SEO stood for if you put a gun to their heads. It gave me good experience finding my way around to get the best category... I still add local companies when I find them and they impress me enough for me to remember their url when I'm next in editing mode.
ImBae.net
Jan 18th 2006, 5:04 pm
i wanted to be an editor for DMOZ =\
Solicitors Mortgages
Jan 18th 2006, 5:20 pm
~50% of all sites that get added to DMOZ were never submitted.
It's probably even higher than that.
I think it's the best way to do it. A few 1000 people trawling the net every now and then adding sites they like
sounds better than all the rest of the ranting and raving you hear from webmasters.
IMO They should completely scrap the submission process.
Will.Spencer
Jan 18th 2006, 5:44 pm
That would at least align expectations with reality.
It would also finalize the victory of search engines over directories, as you could not get into DMOZ without first showing up in the search engine SERPS so that a DMOZ editor could stumble across your web site.
lmocr
Jan 18th 2006, 6:55 pm
That would at least align expectations with reality.
It would also finalize the victory of search engines over directories, as you could not get into DMOZ without first showing up in the search engine SERPS so that a DMOZ editor could stumble across your web site.Or by advertising in a magazine or newspaper, by having your URL on your vehicle, handing out business cards, on billboards, on television, by listing in a niche directory, having a link on a related site - or anywhere else an editor might see it. Most of the URLs I've found, I didn't find by using a search engine.
cianuro
Feb 7th 2006, 12:37 am
As an edtor, it is the job I signed up for to make my categorie(s) of very high quality. This means going out and FINDING high quality sites, as well as having sites submitted.
90% of the listings in my category I added myself.
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