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mocara
Oct 27th 2004, 10:10 am
Hi,
Can anyone explain to me how you get the adwords placement which goes across the page, above the search results? I'm intrested to know what it is I have to do in order to achieve this. Is it all on spend accross adwords, or is it on individual terms?
Mocara.
digitalpoint
Oct 27th 2004, 10:18 am
Basically you need to raise your maximum bid. In another thread here there was discussion about what actually causes it, and someone simply raised their maximum bid to see if that would work, and it did.
Such Great Heights
Oct 27th 2004, 10:20 am
I believe it's just the number 1 & 2 spots. Not all #1 spots appear there, but if your going to appear there, you need to be the highest bidder for that keyphrase.
basically what Shawn said. :)
yfs1
Nov 13th 2004, 12:59 pm
I always thought it was just down to cost until I was the featured ad at the top of the rankings. I went through my stats and as far as I could tell the reason I went from the 2nd position on the right side to first on the top was my click through rate was very high during that time. Google says itself that you can benefit in standing by having a higher click through rate so I think the top position is in the same boat.
During that time by the way, I never changed my Cost per Click bid.
kakoky
Nov 29th 2004, 3:23 am
I believe that you must work with both areas, CTR or text relevance and maximum bid.
If your ad has good relevance keywords, also a great CTR and your maximum bid is more or less like the rest, you will appear at the top.
If you do your work just increasing your maximum bid, usually it also works, but CTR won't be good, and you will be paying a lot for few good clics.
So, it's better to work in all areas.
nevetS
Dec 1st 2004, 11:48 am
agreed. Click Through Rate * Max Bid = maximum revenue for google = best ad placement for you. I've been up there, but I found that being in third or fourth on the side didn't make that much of a difference in my traffic and the cost difference was dramatic. Also - with my low budget, I found that my third and fourth position ads could run all day, whereas my top position ads ended up disappearing at various parts of the day.
greatlinks
Dec 3rd 2004, 4:37 pm
Hi,
Can anyone explain to me how you get the adwords placement which goes across the page, above the search results? I'm intrested to know what it is I have to do in order to achieve this. Is it all on spend accross adwords, or is it on individual terms?
Mocara.
Sometimes you get above the search results if there are no other adwords available or if your purchase much inventory
kakoky
Dec 9th 2004, 9:55 am
Also - with my low budget, I found that my third and fourth position ads could run all day, whereas my top position ads ended up disappearing at various parts of the day.
I agree with that, it's really nice to see your ad at the top position, but if you look for a good ROI, you can do your best in any other position without increasing your budget, and leave CTR do the rest.
I am managing some huge campaings and some other with 2€ daily budget, and I had configure all of them to pay as minimum as possible (I am trying not to be under the four position), but my CTR haven't change at all since I was in the first two positions.
Also I will recomend you to configure your campaign to meet your most important needs, and then adjust it to achieve personal goals as being in the first position; then you can compare and decide about it.
mrjonman
Dec 11th 2004, 3:05 pm
I have found that for me, being in the #3-4 slot gives the best "bang for my buck". The #1 spot costs more (obviously), gets more "tire kickers" and doesn't always produce the most sales of my products.
John
webvivre
Dec 13th 2004, 12:28 pm
What is the best position to be across top or down the rhs? Premium spots in magazine advertising are top right - so maybe top of the right hand column is better?
randfish
Dec 13th 2004, 12:36 pm
The Adwords rep at SEW responded directly to this question: http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showpost.php?p=24047&postcount=2
Now, here are details about how placement in the top one or two spots differs:
* Ads go to the top when they have met an additional performance standard, which focuses on the relevance of the ads to our users.
* This is measured by CTR. So ads/keywords with a particularly high CTR are the ones that go to the top. This also means that CTR is weighted more heavily than CPC in the algo for 'promotion'.
* Actual CPC is more important than Max CPC in terms of going to the top. This means that simply 'bidding higher' is not likely to get one 'promoted'.
* Ads/keywords must first be reviewed and approved, in order to be sent to the top one or two spots.
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