Who are you voting for PRESIDENT?

[Lawsuit]

Hi, although I am 15 (almost 16) I am still interested in who people will vote for, I think these polls are anonymous, anyways just post here who you want to vote for. I am not going to be bias to one party or the other, but I will say who I would vote for in the poll. If you guys really interested I just might share my view, otherwise, you grown ups talk amongst yourselves.

[anthonycea]

Good poll John, you are one of my favorite members here, at least you are honest John, I don't care if others like you or not.

Don't worry about your age John, you have more brains than some folks twice your age, you just need some time, stay in school, you will be more than fine buddy.

John, you should have started this thread in General Chat, not Adsense, Shawn will move it for you, so if it is lost look for it there.

Good night bro. ;)

[SEbasic]

Well, I'll chuck in my 2 cents...

Kerry. (I didn't vote in the poll though as I'm not a US citizen).

[anthonycea]

It matters not, even folks in this country can't vote, in Jacksonville, FL the largest city in square miles in the nation they have one voting station.

Those that are poor can not drive 60 miles to vote, why?

Because the state is controlled by Republicans and they do it to keep the poor and those without transportation from voting.

That is what is wrong with this nation, justice is purchased, it is not for the poor.

Jeb Bush is Governor in Florida, the Presidents Brother who stole the last American Election.

The Bush family must be defeated if America will return to Americans.

[digitalpoint]

Tell me again why you thought this thread should go in the AdSense forum?

[Lawsuit]

I don't know, I was just there, no one reads the other places see? It's dead... You killed it, I hope your happy shawn ;( (Oh and thanks anthony :D)

[Dji-man]

as a non-american citizen, I am voting for anybody but Bush, so Kerry is my choice. It can't be any worse than it is now...

[SEO_AM]

Voting for Bush... there has to at least one national leader of a democracy with balls. :rolleyes:

[Lawsuit]

Bah! You can vote here, I am 15, (almost 16) I can't vote either but this isn't scientific, it's just to see who people like better... If it was a scientific poll then yeah, but it's not. ;D


Hmmm SEO well I guess now I will say who I would vote for if I could, Kerry for sure, Bush just went to Iraq for oil, he's not running for president, he's running because he wants his (and Chaney or however you spell it) companies to make money. Chaney’s company gets money from the supplies in Iraq, and Bush gets money for his oil companies. If it's not obvious there doing every move in there own best interest, then I am sorry, you and Bush were meant for each other... If you make more then $200,000 a year then you better damn well vote bush, if you make $199,999 (99% of people) then obviously you know you should vote Kerry, there is a big difference between the two... Like I said:

Bush = Is president for himself, you should vote for him if you either like seeing him make money, or own part of an oil company (even if it's a couple shares) or if you make more then $200,000.

Kerry = You should vote for him if you make less then $200,000 and if you want everything that people deserve (sorry guys it's not bias it's true, I said the pros and cons of both candidates) you shouldn't vote for him if you make more then $200,000 or if you like the killing innocent people, (sometimes it's nice seeing innocent people die isn’t it?) if you vote Kerry, we will pull out of Iraq, and find Osama Bin Laden. So if you would rather have oil being pumped out of Iraq and Bush causing prices to go hire for his oil company Kerry is NOT for you. If you want cheaper gas prices (I don't know who would besides oil companies like Bushes) then Kerry is for you. KERRY DOES NOT HELP PEOPLE WHO MAKE MORE THEN $200,000 AGAIN, IF YOU MAKE MORE THEN $200,000 AND MONEY MEANS THE WORLD TO YOU, DO NOT VOTE KERRY!!! If you enjoy watching Bush get rich off you, (also share holder of oil companies) you should vote Bush.


Now the % of people who have a brain who should vote for which candidate ONOCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT BIAS THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THESE PEOPLE:

Bush

1% of oil share holders
+1% of people making more then $200,000 a year.
+1% of people who enjoy watching innocent people in Iraq die.
+1% of people who like to see bush get rich
+3% of people who like having a drunk president*
-1% of people who are minorities
____
3% of educated people will vote Bush


Kerry

99% of people who make more less then $200,000 a year
- 3% of people who like a drunk president*
____
96% of educated people will vote Kerry


1% give or take

The reason why it will be a close match is because about 40% of Americans are stupid. (this is not bias, it is a fact that we Americans have many under educated people who feel more comfortable with someone with about the same education level of them selves)


*Source that bush is a drunk: Please click here to download an MP3 of him drunk, this is hilarious just listen more to what he is saying not how he is saying it, he blabbers on for about 1 minutes about nothing [ DOWNLOAD ] (http://www.eastcoastbob.com/bush/bushdrunkwedding96.mp3)

[Will.Spencer]

I'll give you $100 if you have yourself sterilized.

[anthonycea]

Funny Stuff Will, I am sure that a lot of folks would give you "Die Hard Republicans" money to move the Fuck out of America. Maybe you can start a country called "Nixonland" where you bow down to worship "Oil Thieves" like Henry Kissinger, Dick Cheney, Bush Senior and the rest of the gang.

Its a place where you point guns at young soldiers in the National Guard and force them to go to Iraq to drive fuel trucks. A place where young men on patrol are forced to sit to have car bombs driven into their Humvies just to die protecting America's fine citizens like yourself Will.

Plus we have guy's with Balls like Bush who run from their own obligations, only to force others to fight so they do not have to SEO AM.

Man you really have wisdom to make a statement like that.

Will, guess where "Nixonland" is? It's in Iraq Will, why don't you start packing your bags and fight for the republic starting tomorrow Will?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002039926_lockdown19.html

You and SEO AM and GWB have Balls, maybe we should all give up our lives to fight for you brave pricks.

[SEO_AM]

Tony,

With your wisdom and strategy (or lack thereof), if you were running things in the 1930's and 40s, the French and the British would be speaking German. Don't forget that the Brit's hated Churchill for his balls UNTIL Hitler attacked GB.

I too hate all violence, I am a Vietnam vet, but sometimes you have to step up and put more than just pacifist rhetoric forward. Pacifism will not stop the likes of what we face in this world today. No amount of talk will stop terrorism or its export to the Western world. You and Kerry are guilty of pre-9/11 thinking.

No need to answer this... it will be answered at the polls through the election of Bush.

[anthonycea]

You live in the mid-east but seem to know so little about anything SEO AM.

So you feel that this "Plan" that Bush has that has created another Vietnam is the answer?

Wow, you sure did not learn anything from the last Vietnam did you?

Kissinger and your Sorry Republican idiots like Nixon were involved with that one too, right? Bush Senior took over where they left off now, did he not SEO AM?

http://www.alternet.org/story/20127/


Read the above then come back and try to compare the "Bush Oil Wars" with WW2, you show your lack of wisdom again and again with your very silly comments SEO AM.

That is nothing new for you though.

[SEO_AM]

Tony... Tony... Tony...

You have never won debating me. Why start now?

All I have to say is: Tony... Tony... Tony... :)

[anthonycea]

So we are still friends SEO AM? :confused:

[SEO_AM]

Tony...

Till the day we die... may that be a distant date.

[anthonycea]

Shawn may let me hang around longer now :o

[Lawsuit]

So what's that, 8 people voting for Bush 7 Kerry? 8 of you guys own an oil company or make more then $200,000 I am guessing... But hey I am just saying, I not saying who to vote for, just stateing facts...

[anthonycea]

Don't worry John, Kerry will destroy Bush in this poll, you have nothing to worry about. :)

[Lawsuit]

Ok, hey your up so late... whats the deal... your worse then me...

Did you download the George Bush MP3 anthony?

No reply anthony?, I got to go to bed buddy I am waiting on you...

[anthonycea]

Dude, I went to sleep at 9 PM, I just got up, Kalina and SE Basic are they one's up all night, they are just getting ready to go to bed.

Kalina goes to sleep about 6:00 am, she gets up around 2:30 pm.

You gota watch out for people like her John, she will ruin your life like she has SE Basics. :p

John you better start living a normal life or you are going to flunk out of school, you can not stay up all night and sleep in the daytime.

Man you better get it together.

Yes, I downloaded your link to drunk Bush, it is real funny man :D

[Lawsuit]

Yeah, it is, and yeah I better change my life... thanks... hope you like my avatar tell me tomarrow, night!

[mopacfan]

as a non-american citizen, I am voting for anybody but Bush, so Kerry is my choice. It can't be any worse than it is now...
Are you really that naive? It can always be worse. Just because it's bad now does not mean it can't become worse. I cringe whenever I hear someone answer like that. It just shows how little you care/understand/are engaged (pick the most appropriate).

[anthonycea]

You have to cut the cancer off or it will eat the whole body (America), that cancer is the Bush Family.

Bush Senior and his administration with his son as puppet stole the last election, dummies want to give the thieves another go round, that is what a 15 year old can see.

But you guy's that love the Bush Family can not see it. That is why John said 40% of the American people are dumb, his figure is really low, it is more like 98% that let the 2% that control the wealth fool them. :mad:

[mopacfan]

Now the % of people who have a brain who should vote for which candidate ONOCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT BIAS THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THESE PEOPLE:

Bush

1% of oil share holders
+1% of people making more then $200,000 a year.
+1% of people who enjoy watching innocent people in Iraq die.
+1% of people who like to see bush get rich
+3% of people who like having a drunk president*
-1% of people who are minorities
____
3% of educated people will vote Bush


Kerry

99% of people who make more less then $200,000 a year
- 3% of people who like a drunk president*
____
96% of educated people will vote Kerry


1% give or take

The reason why it will be a close match is because about 40% of Americans are stupid. (this is not bias, it is a fact that we Americans have many under educated people who feel more comfortable with someone with about the same education level of them selves)
I believe that most of the people in the US are ignorant but not necessarily are stupid, although that number is pretty high. However, your post indicates that you don't get it either. Do you really believe that a man who is a millionaire, married to a billionaire, really has a clue how a family of four making 38,000 lives. Not a chance. Anyone that falls for that load of crap deserves Kerry.

It's very simple. We have two choices.
Choice 1) Vote for the lesser of two evils. NOTE: THEY ARE BOTH EVIL. There is no victory for us in either candidate.
Choice 2) Vote for the candidate who you believe is the very choice. That means Nader or the libertarian candidate, Michael Badnarik (http://www.lp.org/) or whoever else you think is the very best to run our country other than the two elitist rich snobs from the republican and democratic tickets. Until we vote for the best rather than the least worst, we will continue to suffer under their rule.

[Colleen]

Dude, I went to sleep at 9 PM, I just got up, Kalina and SE Basic are they one's up all night, they are just getting ready to go to bed.

Kalina goes to sleep about 6:00 am, she gets up around 2:30 pm.

You gota watch out for people like her John, she will ruin your life like she has SE Basics. :p

John you better start living a normal life or you are going to flunk out of school, you can not stay up all night and sleep in the daytime.

Man you better get it together.

Yes, I downloaded your link to drunk Bush, it is real funny man :D

I did sleep. For a while. I had to get up because I was having trouble. I won't be sleeping today. I am up for good. Got lots to do.

[anthonycea]

Mopacfan, he is 15 years old and has more brains than folks that vote for Bush. They are voting for the thieves like Cheney who steal money (Oil and War Profits) everyday running up the deficit to the tune of multi-trillions.

Get real man, Nader or your Libertarians have zero chance of changing this, vote for Kerry to get rid of the cancer of the Bush Family.

You will all pay in the end in lives and money for believing the Bush pathological lies.

[Dji-man]

Are you really that naive? It can always be worse. Just because it's bad now does not mean it can't become worse. I cringe whenever I hear someone answer like that. It just shows how little you care/understand/are engaged (pick the most appropriate).

My point is that it can't be any worse than it is now with Bush in power. I doubt Kerry would lie to the American people on reasons to go to war for, just like all other presidents before him except for Nixon. But, I agree with you that it can always be worse, but only if Bush is reelected because he doesn't know/doesn't want to know what's going on. Just 2 examples : 1- Bush is so focused with enforcing the Bush doctrine that he forgets to enforce the Monroe doctrine. 2- For the USA to remain the number 1 power in the world, both economically and militarily, it has to take action, not against 3rd world countries by attacking them, but economically against those who will be more powerful in 20 years.

Maybe you should stop watching foxnews Mopacfan and study American history and politics, then maybe you'll wake up and understand what's going on in your own country and that wasting your vote on the libertarian candidate is a vote for Bush. A bit a travelling abroad (you know outside the 50 States) would be a good wake up call for you, my friend.

[Will.Spencer]

My first major in college: Political Science.

Countries I have worked in: U.S., Austria, Norway, The Netherlands, England, Denmark, France, Australia.

Other countries I have visited: Poland, The Czech Republic, Belgium, Sweden, Mexico, The Bahamas.

My vote for President: George W. Bush.

[anthonycea]

I got something for you Will.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2002070412_johned24.html

Good day, hope you are going to work in Iraq soon for your commander Will :cool:

[earlpearl]

I'm new to this forum. You guys are a riot; and its good to vent about this stuff, but stay friends and help one another in this work. Hey! Hey! I'm roughly as old as SEO AM. Good to know that another ancient is working on this stuff.

As for me Kerry!. Too much bad sh*t has happened in this war. Too much stuff has been explained one way and then needed to be reexplained. Too much is hidden from the public. The decisions to go to war in Iraq seem to have been premade by a couple of people based on some "theories" that really haven't been explained adequately and most everything they have told us has gone haywire.

I wonder which candidate is better for SEO!!!!!

Dave

[anthonycea]

Want to know who those two people are that made the decisions, not the puppet President, but Dear Old Dad, Bush Senior and Big Dick Cheney, the former blunderman Defense secretary under Dear Old Dad.

Get real people, they screwed up the first Gulf War and they screwed the American people for generations on this one.

Bush Family Foundation has to go, they are destruction to America, Vote John Kerry.

This country will never recover with Herbert Hoover Bush as President another 4 years of disaster.

Anyone want some free tickets to ride on the Titanic, contact Will Spencer, he has plenty for everyone.

[Dominic]

If Bush gets kicked out of the White House we are having a party (in Australia). The bumbo Aussie Prime Minister who cuddles up to G Bush got re-elected (not happy)... best thing though out of our election was the lead singer of Midnight Oil - Peter Garret got elected to parliment. He sang (amongst many others) the song that starts "US forces give the nod,.... it's a sad fact for our country,..." anyone know it?

[anthonycea]

I'm new to this forum. You guys are a riot; and its good to vent about this stuff, but stay friends and help one another in this work. Hey! Hey! I'm roughly as old as SEO AM. Good to know that another ancient is working on this stuff.

As for me Kerry!. Too much bad sh*t has happened in this war. Too much stuff has been explained one way and then needed to be reexplained. Too much is hidden from the public. The decisions to go to war in Iraq seem to have been premade by a couple of people based on some "theories" that really haven't been explained adequately and most everything they have told us has gone haywire.

I wonder which candidate is better for SEO!!!!!

Dave

I like Will personally, I just don't like his radical views that are unmoving, reminds me of Jerry Falwell, not Will, but the way he without fail supports the Republicans.

Record Oil Prices

Record Deficit

Record numbers of men dead in Iraq

Halliburton stealing Trillions of dollars and the Bush Family stealing the last election?

Do we need more punishment?

This election is sure to end up in court also, what a disgrace this nation has become, maybe folks will wake up and really look at the leaders.

I remember jerks voting for Nixon, the biggest criminal ever, is that the kind of leader we want in this country?

[mopacfan]

Mopacfan, he is 15 years old and has more brains than folks that vote for Bush. They are voting for the thieves like Cheney who steal money (Oil and War Profits) everyday running up the deficit to the tune of multi-trillions.

Get real man, Nader or your Libertarians have zero chance of changing this, vote for Kerry to get rid of the cancer of the Bush Family.

You will all pay in the end in lives and money for believing the Bush pathological lies.
You're right, they won't have a chance because everyone is afraid to vote for the best candidate. How hard is that to understand? If a large mass of the population votes for the best candidate, then the republicans and democrats are out of business. That's the real goal. Why keep choosing the lesser of two EVILS when we can do something good for our country and put someone in the oval office who truely has our best interests at heart?

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Maybe you should stop watching foxnews Mopacfan and study American history and politics, then maybe you'll wake up and understand what's going on in your own country and that wasting your vote on the libertarian candidate is a vote for Bush. A bit a travelling abroad (you know outside the 50 States) would be a good wake up call for you, my friend.
Stereotyping is a bad thing. I've lived in the Phillipines. I've been in Panama, Japan and Guam. I have a very good understanding of how the world works. Voting for the best candidate is never a waste. You just proved my point, in fact. It's you that is wasting your vote by casting it for someone who is no better. Kerry is the OTHER EVIL. What part of that don't you get? If people like you would stop wasting their votes on the republicans and democrats and vote for someone who can bring us real change, then what you call a "wasted vote" would be a vote of power. Until people stop cowering under the falsehood of 'wasting your vote', there will never be any chance for this country to pull itself out of the downward spiral we're in.

[anthonycea]

You can bet that the Republicans do NOT have the best interests of the average working stiff or consumer in mind.

So you better vote for John Kerry in real life.

Republicans are union busting bastards, look at what Ronald Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers Union.


http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&p=reagan+Patco


When he fired them that did contribute to weak national security, on 9/11 the air traffic controllers did NOT know the threat was coming from inside the country.

They sent fighter jets out to the Atlantic East into the ocean thinking the threat was coming from Europe.

When you don't want to pay qualified workers like Reagan did, then you get second class security.

That is what the Republicans will make all of us, second class citizens.

Their day is coming soon.

[Lawsuit]

Guy's I agree with the Nader supporters, we need a 3 party system. BUT THIS IS NOT THE ELECTION TO TRY TO THROW AWAY YOUR VOTE!!! If we had Kerry vs. Anyone else, it would be fine, I would recommend everyone try to make our system split into 3 parties. But this is not the election to try anything stupid. I beg you, I am only 15, but I beg you, for the sake of oil prices (Bushes corner, he invaded Iraq, we have a surplus but we are paying more because he owns the oil companies),


AND MOST OF ALL for they sake of our safety (guys there's no other election after this for Bush, he says we won't get drafted, but when I am 19, whoever our president may be in this election, he will decide if there’s a draft). I want to go to college and if Bush is in office, in his second year (not term) I will be 18, and YOU CAN BE SURE AS HELL THERE WILL BE A DRAFT!!! He will invade every country with oil in it and I will end up fighting somewhere in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Arabia, Russia, and the 10s of other countries that have oil. He will blame the oil wars on terrorism, and I will end up dieing by some suicide bomber for the sake of his wealth. I know a lot of you don't care if I die, but I am sure if you put yourself in my place you would sure as hell wish everyone voted for the guy who isn't a money thirsty dog (bush).


Please, understand, Bush can lie all he wants right now, America has never faced a President this bad, there has always been corruption in America ALWAS but this guy is just crazy, I assure you, if we give him a second term, we will all be draft to fight for his wealth, he did it once, and for what? Terrorism? We all know Iraq had no terrorism that could harm us all the way over here in America. There was one person who is the terrorist, Osama, but Bush wanted oil so he sent everyone to Iraq, it's like saying a boy from Canada stole a loaf of bread, so we invade Russia... It's one person, not one country, Osama doesn't even live in Iraq... We will I repeat we WILL HAVE A DRAFT UNDER BUSH he is a soulless lying bustard, and I will end up dieing for him... I am 6'4.5'' and I am 15 (almost 16) I will stand out from all the soldiers, I am guessing by the time I am 18 I will be 6'7'' if I go to war I will stand out like a Giraffe for gods sake, they will shoot me before I even see them...

The thing that sucks about this election is, that we all know, if Bush is elected, there will be a draft, people who are going to be old enough to go to get draft when he's in office should be able to vote (14-17) or otherwise they should change the law and make it so that if you couldn't vote in the last election you can't be drafted because of the other stupid people who are at fault for there votes.

Guys for the sake of you children (if you have children 14-17) please understand, they will most likely be drafted under Bush (he will defiantly call for a draft but if your child has a mental disorder you'll be fine) he will make up some excuse that's as lame as the last one for Iraq (weapons of mass destructions) and invade 4 countries at once. We will be nuked by one of them, and not only the people who were drafted will die, but all of the Americans.


Please, let me live, vote Kerry, because I can't vote for my own survival.

[Dji-man]

Stereotyping is a bad thing. I've lived in the Phillipines. I've been in Panama, Japan and Guam. I have a very good understanding of how the world works. Voting for the best candidate is never a waste. You just proved my point, in fact. It's you that is wasting your vote by casting it for someone who is no better. Kerry is the OTHER EVIL. What part of that don't you get? If people like you would stop wasting their votes on the republicans and democrats and vote for someone who can bring us real change, then what you call a "wasted vote" would be a vote of power. Until people stop cowering under the falsehood of 'wasting your vote', there will never be any chance for this country to pull itself out of the downward spiral we're in.

You live in a country that has a 2 party system, accept it. If you think that voting for a 3rd party won't help reelect George Bush, maybe you should read about the 2000 election and the effect of the Nader vote. Of course you have to vote for the best candidate, but if that vote helps to elect the worst candidate, is it better? Are you gonna be better off with another 4 years of George Bush? A protest vote is fine but you have to be able to live with the consequences of your actions. Anyway, if you can't live with Bush, you can always apply for refugee status in Canada before he reenlists you for another round of duty. ;)

FYI, Ottawa is in Canada and Canadians can't vote in the US election, so i'm not going to waste my vote this time. I can only do my best to influence my US friends to vote for the lesser of 2 evils: Kerry.

[anthonycea]

John, you are way to valuable to send into the draft, you got to be the greatest forum find since Anthony Cea.

I love you man. Shawn loves you I think.

I think you are the greatest comedy writer around man, even when you are serious you are funny as hell man.

Dude, you got it going on, I don't care what anyone says, we would never vote for you to die on any battlefield.

You are cool as hell John, just keep on keeping on man, we are with you and understand your fear.

No one wants to send young men into a war zone, maybe the Republicans will so they can golf safely, but we are going to put an end to this Iraq war as we did in Vietnam.

Americans need to protest this war just as we did Vietnam and demand of our leaders to deal fairly with other nations and mind our own business.

We need to trade fairly with other nations instead of fighting with them.

Most of the problems we have in this nation are caused by our bias support of the our 51st state in the middle east that is called by a name from the bible. Folks want to attack us because of our silly support for this 51st state in the middle east. We do not want to send our kids to die for this nation that can not remain a nation much longer. If there is no peace in the area of the 51st state of America in the middle east then the wars will never end.

[Lawsuit]

Thanks Anthony. I am not trying to be funny, and I don't find what I said to be funny (I read it twice to check) there’s nothing funny about it, I don't worry about dieing as much as I worry about not being remembered and leaving a peace of my self on this earth (besides my corpse PUN not intended). If we vote for Bush, all I can say is we all will die one time or another, but voting for Bush for a second term means he has nothing to lose this time around, there will be a World War 3. Everyone knows the second term of a President shows the real person, we have just seen 1/10 of what Bush is, if you vote for him, I assure you, someone close to you (if not you) will indeed die, whether it's your wife, son, daughter, father, mother, cousin, uncle or anyone for that matter that you know. That is my guarantee (you may be saying I will take him on that bet and I will vote Bush, that is exactly why the American people are idiots) and I am saying at least one person you know will die (if not already) it is very likely that we will just be nuked within the next 4 years, you guys don't understand, making a nuclear weapon isn't hard, letting it off isn't hard, I know Iraq didn't have any (it was just a war for oil) but even so, there are other countries that have weapons of mass destructions, and you know what? It is there right as a country to have them and use them if Bush is re-elected.

If Bush war re-elected, I urge every country to make nuclear weapons, and be ready to nuke us, I am willing to die in the case that America goes to was with another country. This is my promise, if I am drafted, I will take the free trip to whatever country America is attacking, and I will fight for that country. I love the American people, but I am not fighting a war that is for the wealth of one man.

If Bush is elected, I will be drafted, and so will millions of other people, this is a fact. And when I am drafted, and I fly to whatever country we are invading for oil, I will take the free trip, and fight for the country we are invading, whether it's Russia, Iraq, Korea, Iran, Arabia, I don't care, I am not fighting for the wealth of one man, that I promise everyone.

It is wrong that George Bush can make up excuses out of his ass to go to war in oil rich countries.

Now please, I cannot vote, but I will be a target to be draft in the next election and so will every child that is age 14-17 right now... Honestly I am not a democrat or republican I am a student who hopes to have a future, and there is no future for me with Bush.



In conclusion:

Voting for Bush is signing over the life of every American... If you have a death wish, please PM me here, I will mail you some capsules with poison in them, you won't feel any pain (I got the instructions from this website) and I have capsules that I can empty out (they are for my vitamins). I will mail you 6x, if you request more for people you know, it will be arranged, I will just buy some $6 vitamins from Rite Aids and empty them out and fill them up with poison. I will pay for postage and everything, it is worth one vote to me.


Note to Anthony: Please don't call this funny, I don't have the slightness smile on my face, I am 100% dead serous.

[debunked]

like Forrest Gump said "stupid is..."

..you know what he said

[SEO_AM]

Looking through the New York Times, a Kerry supporter, I found a little tidbit for you Bush bashers. He he! Bush is smarter than Kerry:

"Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test."

Now I am right when I say Kerry is a dumb... when compared to Bush. :cool:

[compar]

I'll give you $100 if you have yourself sterilized.
Is that the official Republican response to all who dare to dissent?

[david_sakh]

I am voting for anybody but Bush, so Kerry is my choice. It can't be any worse than it is now...

My sentiments exactly.

[Lawsuit]

Bush cheated, just look at him, your saying he graduated from Yale legit? HAHA! He was paid through, who would dare to give the Presidents son anything BUT an A (George Bush Senior). He can't even speak English, look at him in the Presidents chair in Fahrenheit 9/11 he is a fucking stoner, he puts his tongue out and shit before the camera is rolling (or so he thinks) he is retarded...


Anyways all and all, I don't care how stupid who is, if you guys vote Bush, then your digging me a grave. So I beg you I beg you I beg you PLEASE don't vote Bush, I am sure he's a good husband or whatever but, that guy goes to war so Cheney gets money (because he supplies the war equipment) and Bush gets the oil. If you guys don't know this by now that's very sad.


What Bush and Cheney get from this war:

Bush Gets:

7 Billion a year pumping oil out of Iraq then selling it to us (the American) for 3 times what it was when Clinton was in office (if you remember, during El Nino hurricane in 1999 gas coasted $.87-$1.03 a gallon, DURING A HURICANE! if anything gas should cost more during a hurricane.) As soon as Bush came in he raised the prices and his oil stocks sky rocketed.

Cheney:

11 Billion a year for being the #1 supplier for the war equipment.


In other words, war is an excuse to put you tax money directly into Bush and Cheney’s pocket.


You guys should have had a recall, and your actual considering voting for them again?

Very sad..



Very Vary Sad...


What I really care about is living though, most everyone is dead if you vote Bush... We have seen only 1/10 of his wrath. He has nothing to lose if he is elected again, all hell will break lose, we will al be drafted, no one will be left in America. The USA will go from 300 million to 30 million, so think, think, think...


Vote Kerry, our lives depends on it...

[anthonycea]

Is that the official Republican response to all who dare to dissent?

Sure it is Bob, is is the same policy that Hitler had before he was defeated, I can see some of these guys here going down with the Oil Criminals also.

[Las Vegas Homes]

All I know is we went from a reserve to a deficit in 4 years. I think Bush has been caught in to many lies. Plus he is not the sharpest nail in the box.

[anthonycea]

Who do you think gave the open door to friends of the Bush Family to take advantage of the Trillions of that taxpayer money?

Anyone care to guess?

[Lever]

Not your old buddy, Nixon, by any chance?

[anthonycea]

Nixon was the beginning of the end of the integrity of American government, Kissinger and his gang are still in power, Bush wanted to appoint him to chair the 9/11 commission buy he had to resign because of Kissinger & Companies conflict of interest (he represents the Saudi's) with his clients.

Jim Baker the lawyer that stole the election for the Bush Family with the help of the Supreme Court also represents the Saudi's.

What does that tell you about the Republicans?

[Las Vegas Homes]

Well I would like to say and please keep the bashing to a min please ..LOL...BUT in either way in 2008 we will see another Clinton in the White House .

[anthonycea]

Do you call the truth bashing?

Should the truth be covered from the eyes of the voters?

[Las Vegas Homes]

No I dont but I truly do believe that Hilary has a bigger pair then anyone in Washington right now and wouldnt put up with all the political BS that we see in the Capital all the time now.

I do believe it will get even more interesting in 2008 if Kerry wins this election in 2004. I do feel that Hilary will run in 2008 because at that time her commentment to New York is over with. She stated that when she was elected that she would not run for President until her term in New York was over with or we would be seeing her as the next President in 2004.

When she runs she will win by the biggest land slide compared to any election to date. On a lighter side it would be funny to see her as President and Bill as Vice President....LOL

[Lawsuit]

I don't care about politics, I just want to live PERIOD.

Bush doesn't support living. He supports sending young people to war to fetch him oil. He will have a draft and I will die.

Vote Kerry, he supports living.

P.S. Look at me for gods sake, I am still just a boy, look at my avatar, you want to send this (me) to war to send you oil Bush? He makes me sick, why doesn't he just go fetch his own oil god damn it.

[anthonycea]

I would rather have you running the country versus the Bush Family, we would be in better hands :p

[Lawsuit]

Thanks, I have to go to school soon... so...

[Las Vegas Homes]

My 5 year old son has a bigger vocabulary then Bush, and he is only in kindergarden.

[Lever]

My 5 year old son has a bigger vocabulary then Bush, and he is only in kindergarden.Sorry, LVH, who were you talking about there...?

[Las Vegas Homes]

Well I would say the kindergarden reply could mean Bush or my son..I will let you decide..lol

[Lever]

Thanks, LVH, I'll have to go and have a think about that one... Results in tomorrow... :D

[schlottke]

It doesn't bode well for criticism when you insult someones vocabulary and use improper grammar when doing so...

... has vocabulary then Bush

[Openg]

I recieved a very serious email tonight (called republican emergency alert) stating that John Kerry was, in the opinion of Senator Zell Miller a 'man (who)has the morals of Bill Clinton and none of the charm or brains'.

The email started as
'looking to show your support for a republican year,looking to expose democrat double talk, looking for free window stickers'

Are we not glad that the world is in such capable hands ;)

Whoever you vote for the government gets in :rolleyes:

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[anthonycea]

That crazy old goat Zell Miller is one of Bush Seniors bought and purchased servants.

He is the biggest clown I have ever seen, fitting that he would take Bush's money to insult the party he was in for years.

That old horse will be in the glue house soon along with Bush Senior, Zell Miller sold out to the Oil Criminals.

[Dji-man]

Guys, let's settle this argument once and for all and follow the Brits advice: vote for... Homer J. Simpson!

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=608767&section=news

:D :D :D

[Las Vegas Homes]

It doesn't bode well for criticism when you insult someones vocabulary and use improper grammar when doing so...

Have you ever heard of a typo. It is one thing to make a mistake but it is another to be a complete idiot.

[crear21]

Guys, let's settle this argument once and for all and follow the Brits advice: vote for... Homer J. Simpson!

...

If I lived in the USA, and Homer was a candidate, I would vote for him. Seriously.

[anthonycea]

We already have Homer and his Daddy Simpson running the show, we need John Kerry right now, he can bring some common sense to international relations instead of war and oil thieving. The "Thousand Points of Light Bull Shit" has run it's course. :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3702676.stm

:mad: :) :mad:

[schlottke]

The Democrats have a chance to win, although even Monica Lewinsky said she had mixed feelings about John Kerry, when asked about it she replied, "The last Democrat in the Oval office left a sour taste in my mouth."

[anthonycea]

I would not care if they had a crack whore party under the President's desk man, anything would be better than the oil thieves in power now.

Filler up with more Bush Senior Bullshit, ready to go to Iraq and fight for your commander Snitch Baby?

[schlottke]

Yes. If there was a draft I wouldn't have a problem at all defending my country.

I think you forget about Clinton's military mishaps in office, probably the worst record of any president in our history. Remember Somolia? Bosnia?

[anthonycea]

Why wait for the draft? Go knock on Dick Cheney's door, he will be happy to let you drive a oil tanker right now!!!!

None of the soldiers want to, they need your help right now :cool:

We won that war in the former Yugoslavian Republic, did you forget that?

Slobo was removed.

[schlottke]

Actually from what I was just reading, 88% of the volunteer forces from Hawaii support the war our current presidents decision to stay longer in Iraq.

Bosnia was as a failure in your standards of war, don't turn a blind eye- We already have the war in Iraq won. Now we are trying to build a shattered country.

[anthonycea]

What are you waiting for, join them now, you can drive a oil tanker for Halliburton.


Dick Cheney needs you now, he only has until January to steal a few more Trillion dollars from American Taxpayers.

Just think of the benefits :cool:

[schlottke]

Why don't you stop repeating yourself, building up your post count with useless dribble. I'm not a fan of war, but believe it or not, it is necessary.

[anthonycea]

Building up my post count? I am glad I do not think like you, I don't sit around thinking about post counts and give neg. rep to folks because I think that is why they post like you do.

Don't you have your own forum to ruin man?

[schlottke]

Why don't you show me 10 posts where you actually helped someone on this forum, without a news article. If we wanted your news, we'd go to news.google.com and search for "Useless BS".

[NewComputer]

Why don't you show me 10 posts where you actually helped someone on this forum, without a news article. If we wanted your news, we'd go to news.google.com and search for "Useless BS".

HAHAHA, way to use Google in a burn.... AC, you are notorious for just continually posting url after url of the same crap. I never have figured out what your opinion is on matters, but I know what everyone at CNET thinks because of you....

j/k... you know it is a love/hate thing....

[anthonycea]

Like I said, why don't you guys trade posts on your forums?

Maybe then you will have someone to talk to, each other, that could go on forever.

NC: M$ is the only show in town.

Snitch Baby: Yea they have a lot of those in Hawaii also.

NC: Microsoft is good, they are the best.

Snitch Baby: That is all I ever ran.

NC: Boy you are my best buddy.

Snitch Baby: No NC, you are my best buddy.

Man, I bet your members will learn a hell of a lot from you guys...... :rolleyes:

Snitch Baby, you have confirmed my thoughts and opinion on yourself being mentally ill, son you really need some help, please get some professional help soon for your own sake and for the sake of the forum community.

Lawsuit made a hell of a lot more sense than you ever have in your entire life and he is only 15.

[NewComputer]

It must suck having no friends and being convinced that Microsoft, Google etc... are in cahoots with the gov't to break you down.....

You need to get outside AC, or at least peel the 11 layers of blankets away from the windows and let the non Microsoft and non Google controlled sun shine in....

[anthonycea]

You know what is funny about you NC, you are in the computer business but can not see the big picture if you were hit on the head with a club full of it.

Maybe you and Snitch Baby simply have a comprehension problem. In your case I think it is because you move way too fast and are busy.

In his case, he simply has a comprehension and envy problem that is working insanity within his soul.

That I can not help him with. Maybe the Bush Administration could give him some aid, but they do not like to provide social programs for the disabled.

You better switch parties Snitch Baby, because it is certain you will need government aid in the future and you will not get it from the Republicans son.

[schlottke]

Ok, Im switching parties... wait, no Im not, Ok I will... Nah... Get use to the Flip Flop if Kerry is elected.

LOL, I'm going to need government aid?

[anthonycea]

It is not all that funny to me, I am really worried about your sanity.

If you go on as you have in the last few months I question your mental health.

Lawsuit was banned last night for making silly sexual comments, does your little joke in this thread show anyone that you are much better than he?

Get some help or start getting more sleep because you certainly are much smarter than you have shown of late.

You are acting like you are 15 years old yourself most of the time.

That is not a laughing matter Jacob. I don't think it is all that funny.

[debunked]

Anthony, Here is an article that could be enlightening if read:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136571,00.html

[anthonycea]

Debunked, I have not read it yet, but I would bet it is some "Bush Family Foundation Propaganda" that Fox News is famous for.

No one really takes Hearaldo and the idiots at Fox New serious Debunked but the Right wing "so-called Christian Killers" like Pat Roberston and Jerry Falwell.

Put up a poll and see how much support you get for those two fake bastards here at Digital Point Debunked.

[DangerMouse]

Not that I get to vote in the US - but it is indeed a scary choice!

[anthonycea]

The thing that the entire world should be scared of are the "good Christian Killers" on the loose that really do not even follow any religion from God.

They have their own, kill anyone that does not share our "distorted view of the bible" religion.

We have George Bush as our leader, he will stand up for us and our religion if we allow him and Dick Cheney to steal the treasury and kill anyone who does not share our religion.

Wow, if everyone could just tune into Fox News Channel everyday we could convert the entire world to "our religion".

Why not just call Fox News the PTL Club or the 700 Club for those who like to live in a daze of religious deception.

Welcome to America, again, the thing the world should fear is another 4 years of bias deceived so-called Christian zealots here in the states having power in America.

Vote John Kerry and end the insanity of the so-called Christian RIGHT that is so WRONG.

[debunked]

obviously you have never watched foxnews or read an article their. Some idiot must have told you all that garbage, because it simply isn't true.

To some up the article it takes a quote from Dan Rather about 5.4% unemplyment rate moving up to 5.6% during the clinton era and compares it to Dan Rather-not-tell-the-truth quote about the current 5.6% unemployment.

The article is written about a third party.

Open your eyes and stop just copying whatever idiot told you that stuff.

[debunked]

I actually voted for kerry......



before I voted against him....

Oregon has mail in votes and I already voted for the candidate that can tell the truth - Bush

BTW-these so called missing ammunitions - they were not there when I troops got there, so this man named Kerry and his media mafia who tell people they disappeared under U.S. military watch knows they are flat out lying. Even the UN who you so fondly love (mr.kerry) says that the ammo was there BEFORE our troops arrived but they were not there WHEN they did.

Vote for Bush and watch the polling stations for fraud, we don't want the election to be Gored (stolen) and I am not Kerrying (lying)

[anthonycea]

Debunked, if this country were to follow the things you believe and preach we would all just leave the country today.

Everyone is aware that Fox News is the most Right Wing conservative bias news organization in the world, it figures a guy like you would rely on them for enlightenment.

Debunked, it is folks like you that post insane stuff that will cause folks to vote for Kerry, thank you for being part of this election and part of Bush's silly propaganda effort that only could take in the biggest fools and the most deceived individuals in the country.

It is only a jerk that would say the Democrats stole the last election and you are always true to your calling Debunked.

Are you sure you can not start posting on the 700 club forum, you would be a great leader over there.

Folks here really know how insane you are, so you just hurt your positions here.

[debunked]

Because I said I am a Christian you assume so much.....
You will next be saying what ACLU, etc are saying "freedom of speach, except if you are a Christian."

Oh well, I will move on, but you need to stop blaming others for were you are at in life and start looking at yourself. To blame Bush or Debunked on your current job situation is pretty sad. You need to get out from under your grey cloud of thought and maybe think positive about life.

Peace Anthony.

[anthonycea]

I believe in God and his Son also, I just do not believe in those who support murder and theft while they wrap the American flag around themselves and expect the rest of us to give them our complete support claiming it is patriotic.

That is where you have gone wrong Debunked.

Will you say the same thing when they want to put a "Verichip" in you Debunked?

If you want to support Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell and the rest of the Republican false prophets that is your business.

I am sure that Fox News will have Pat Robertson on for an interview soon Debunked, make sure you tune in for the Pro Bush and Pro Israel Propaganda.

[SEbasic]

I am a fan of Hunter S Thompson's work...

I stumbled accross this today, Thought I'd share it with anyone that is interested.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562575?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7&rnd=1098996666757&has-player=true&version=6.0.11.847

[Las Vegas Homes]

I wrote in the name of Al Bundy and voted for him. Long live the Bundster.

[joeychgo]

Lawsuit
Banned



ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[anthonycea]

Who told you that?

Lawsuit is now calling himself Elvis, he is still alive :)

Vote John Kerry, Cheney Sucks!

[Las Vegas Homes]

Did any of you know that John Edwards could become President. A little goverment fact. If for some reason we have a tie in the electoral votes. The house and senate have to vote on the next President. If the senate was to vote Kerry and Edwards and the new house was split on the votes between Bush and Kerry, John Edwards would be the next President until the house could break the deadlock. Just food for thought..LOL

[anthonycea]

I would not care if the Hell's Angels were President, no one could do more harm to this country than Bush and Cheney.

Did anyone even try to vote? The lines were so long here in Florida that you had to wait for hours in line to vote early.

This country is a pain in the ass to even cast your vote in, the process is no doubt backward and America can not even conduct a fair election without corruption and taint.

There is really something wrong with this picture, if we are an example for the world, we are the worst example.

[debunked]

Now we have more insight to the caliber of people 'trying' to vote in Florida ---> Anthony.

BTW - I hope you only voted 1 time, I know your guys want you to vote early and vote often, but it is against the law to vote often. We don't want someone to gore the election.

gore (verb): to steal, ie: Kerry and edwards are trying to gore the election in 2004 by changing election laws anywhere they need more votes.

Life goes on...........................................

And Billy Graham is the only one I feel teaches from the bible and is a good man (why do you want to pick on him??), some of the guys you listed I don't know and others seem to be frauds.

The Pro-Israel comment leads me to believe you are anti-Israel -why? Please explain what you feel about Israel. I suppose they shouldn't defend themselves from terrorists and like Kerry believes we should ignore all terrorists and then they will leave us alone. - won't work!!!

[Lever]

I am a fan of Hunter S Thompson's work...

I stumbled accross this today, Thought I'd share it with anyone that is interested.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562575?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7&rnd=1098996666757&has-player=true&version=6.0.11.847
Now THAT is an excellent article, eerily reminiscent of the writing style of a Mr. Anthonycea and the same message too, though Nixon wasn't treated with quite the same contempt as I'd expect from Anthony :)

Please, America, let's not have another sequel from "the creators of George W Bush"... It will be a bigger box office flop than the first one.

[Sorvoja]

Please explain what you feel about Israel. I suppose they shouldn't defend themselves from terrorists ...


It is really funny really, Israel are the occupiers so when the palistinians kill them they are resisting the occupation not doing acts of terrorism. Norway was occupied by Nazi-germany in the years 1940-1945, and the Norwegian resistance were pretty much doing the same as the palistinians are doing now, fighting the enemy in every possible way. I hope the US or UN someday send lots of troops to Israel/Palestine/Syria/Lebanon to disarm the region and to create a more permanent peace.

[yfs1]

I just hope that whoever wins today it is by a sizeable margin so I can stop hearing the belly aching of "stealing elections", etc from both sides. I cast my private vote, now I will support whoever is elected for 4 years at which time I get to cast another vote to change it if I feel differently. Whats so hard about that?

[anthonycea]

Why support Bush if he wins (if daddy and the Nixon boys steal another election), we impeached Nixon, so I will start working for the impeachment of "The Bush Family Foundation" as soon as they steal another election with the help of the fraud of the Republican Party.

Remember the words of the terminator, " 4 MOOORE YEORS ", what a joke :rolleyes:

Debunked, you have a lot to learn about life, your best bet is to keep your ears and eyes open, pray to God for wisdom and keep your hands in your pockets.

[yfs1]

I would respect him as president just as I would respect John Kerry....I find it funny that you constantly give out about Fox news, et all for being partisan when you have yet to post actual facts. You respond to facts from other posters with flames based on nothing. You are repetitive and boring. Get a life.

I don't understand your "Terminator" quote. I read his speech from the Republican convention and thought it was great. I don't live in California so I can't comment on his policies but why is he a joke just because he supports George Bush?? If he was a democrat but nothing else changed would you then not say anything. I find such blind partisan so boring. I judge people based on that person and their own views/policies, not what political party they belong to. After all, they are basically the same party at this point.

[anthonycea]

Sorry you are a Bush supporter, I feel sorry for you, look in the mirror and find yourself a life other than your bias and blind support for a bunch of criminals.

Arnold should be terminated by California Voters in the next Election.

Zell Miller is also a fake and a fraud, I bet you will fall in line and support Bush Senior also like he did when he was bribed to turn on his own party.

[yfs1]

#1 Why should Arnold be "Terminated"?
#2 Why am I a Bush supporter because I disagree with your wacko tunnel vision views
#3 When did I ever mention Zell Miller and what does that have to do with anything

I still would be amazed if you presented one fact about anything. You are the scary conspiracy theorists that live in their mothers basement that drive the average person crazy. The sad part is I probably agree with you on a lot of policy issues, but I get a feeling you have never even thought rationally for a second.

[anthonycea]

Funny, that that is exactly what I am thinking about you after reading your posts ;) :cool:

[yfs1]

Thank You for proving my point.

[anthonycea]

What point, the one at the top of your cap?

Want facts?

Bush Senior screwed the American people on the first Gulf War. Now we have to pay a thousand fold for his mistakes.

His Puppet Son and Fat Dick screwed the American People and the nations of the world on the current Iraq war, just ask the French what they think of him?

Bush Senior and company stole the last election and are going to try to steal this one also.

Oil prices at record prices never seen before.

Thousands of US Soldiers dead and others that DO NOT want to serve the Oil Criminals by killing citizens of Iraq any longer.

Record US deficits, an economy that is sliding into depression in the US.

Do you want more facts?

[yfs1]

What point, the one at the top of your cap?

Obviously there is no point in posting here as you seem to take over every thread. I am hoping that comment doesn't mean what I think it does.

You are a sad, sad man.

[Geir]

My vote goes to Bush.
(Since I am not a US citizen, thsi is the only place my vote will count though...)

[anthonycea]

Not as sad as Bush voters will be tonight and not as sad as you man. ;)

Your post contains more false information, I do not post in every thread, so I can not take over every thread.

You asked for facts but when you get them you cry in a corner and want to quit the debate.

That is your problem, not Digital Point's or mine. :confused:

[Las Vegas Homes]

What point, the one at the top of your cap?

Want facts?

Bush Senior screwed the American people on the first Gulf War. Now we have to pay a thousand fold for his mistakes.

His Puppet Son and Fat Dick screwed the American People and the nations of the world on the current Iraq war, just ask the French what they think of him?

Bush Senior and company stole the last election and are going to try to steal this one also.

Oil prices at record prices never seen before.

Thousands of US Soldiers dead and others that DO NOT want to serve the Oil Criminals by killing citizens of Iraq any longer.

Record US deficits, an economy that is sliding into depression in the US.

Do you want more facts?

I do agree with what you have stated in this post as to the reasons Bush is no longer fit to lead the country, but I also believe there are better ways to present these facts without pointing fingers at other posters.

This is America and no matter whether you agree or disagree with an opinion we all have a right to express one.

Look at Nader who is part of that 1 to 2 % of the rich getting that nice little Bush tax break, I fall into this bracket as well, but I also try to think about my son, who may be paying for our short comings in his future. Nader's only purpose for running is to steal votes from the Dem so he can keep his buddy Bush in office. What is happening now in the US will effect us on a smaller scale then it will our kids. I dont know about some of you but my child is the most important thing to me.

As for the oil prices, has anyone noticed who has a major portion of the development contracts over in Afganistan or Iraq..Its Halaberton..if that is spelled right which is the right arm of this administration.

Let us all not forget that the Republican party had to win the election from the surpreme court in 2000. I for one do not care to have the same thing happen in this election as it did in 2000, no matter who is going to win.

There was a comment made in this thread about the Dem filing law suits to try and steal the election this year..well as of this morning in Ohio which is a key state for the Rep, the Rep party filed the first motion asking to challenge votes and the voters making those votes, so who is filing what? In Florida we have over 2000 attorneys both Rep and Dem just chomping at the bit to start the finger pointing. What example does this set for those other countries that we push so hard to hold democratic elections.

Something that should be considered. If Bush is elected again, the country is in for a very hard landing. As the deficit becomes larger and big US business is allowed to outsource to other countries for cheap labor and cheaper parts but still charging the high cost for these produces, we stand a very good chance of going into a depression. The only thing that has kept the country from sliding into a depression is the housing market.

During unstable times in the ecconomy historically people buy homes because it gives them a sense of stability during unstable times. If more jobs are lost to other countries this will lead the US ecconomy right into the toilet. What good do tax breaks do for people who have no jobs. How do we decrease the deficit if people dont have jobs to pay taxes, where does the federal goverment generate income to keep the country running?

Sorry to have bounced around so much on this post but I havent had my first cup of coffee yet :D

[dazzlindonna]

I voted first thing this morning. That's what matters - people need to get out there and vote - for whomever you choose. Make your voice heard where it counts - at the voting booth!

[SEO_AM]

I sent my ballot from the Middle East over a month ago. No matter what, or for whom,... vote

[DangerMouse]

I hope more of you guys turn out to the election today than have voted in the DP poll ;)

[T0PS3O]

Another reason your country will be doomed for a lot longer than 4 years if Bush get's re-elected (or elects himself) is the fact that he will get to choose another few supreme attorneys or whatever you call them. More of them corrupt reptiles in charge and the negative results of this election will continue for decades...

[anthonycea]

Many will just flat out move out of the country if Bush steals another election.

What are we here for? The standard of living is sinking, not going up, unless you can commit fraud or manipulate the books of an enterprise and rob creditors and shareholders it is hard to make a living (steal a living) since the wages paid across the board are being decreased and the cost of living is sky high and is going way up at the same time.

There is something wrong with this.

[Sorvoja]

It looks like Kerry will win no matter what happens:

http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/tiles/verden/usavalg/usa.html

[T0PS3O]

It ain't over till the fat lady sings...

I'm sure the fat lady and his monkey have got some back-up songs on their repetoir even if the crowd boo's them off tonight.

[david_sakh]

Anyone know where I can get on-line up 2 date election coverage? I don't have TV. :(

[anthonycea]

Google or Yahoo search, "US Election Results"

http://www1.cnn.com/

:o

[Such Great Heights]

I'm sad to say that I'll be voting for Kerry.
I don't want Kerry as president, but I definitely don't want Bush as president even more.

It's a sad day, and I hope tomorrow isn't worse.

[david_sakh]

A sad day indeed. But it's all relative - As an American I can look among the existing human ranks and the ones who've suffered in the past and say that it's not all that bad; in fact, it's really, really, REALLY good. I try to keep that in mind, as gloomy as these days may seem.

Anyway, I'm not bothering to vote. South Carolina is swamped with Republicans.

[anthonycea]

Must be why all the fabric plants shut down and moved offshore, Republicans can not pay those rotton American workers a fair days wage or give those folks benefits.

That would be UN-Republican, just ask the air traffic controllers union, they will tell you all about it. :confused:

[ferret77]

I honestly cannot comprehend how anyone can support bush & co

I can see why people don't like kerry , but I just don't get how anyone can look at bushs term and say "YEAH give me 4 more years of that"

unless you make more then 200,000 a year or own coal plant

when has bush done anything for the average person

is it the gay thing, I know their are people who would vote for someone if their platform was "give every millionare and extra million and ban gay marriage"

Is that it? Does anyone have any convincing argurement for letting bush stay?

I mean if he ran a company, he would have been fired

[Lever]

I mean if he ran a company, he would have been firedIn our reality, yes he would/should be fired, but in the fantasy world these guys create and maintain for themselves, no. When he was at Spectrum 7 it was losing money but he came out smelling of roses. (http://www.publicintegrity.org/report.aspx?aid=196)

[david_sakh]

I honestly cannot comprehend how anyone can support bush & co

I can see why people don't like kerry , but I just don't get how anyone can look at bushs term and say "YEAH give me 4 more years of that"

unless you make more then 200,000 a year or own coal plant

when has bush done anything for the average person

is it the gay thing, I know their are people who would vote for someone if their platform was "give every millionare and extra million and ban gay marriage"

Is that it? Does anyone have any convincing argurement for letting bush stay?

I mean if he ran a company, he would have been fired

I guess being a Christian alone somehow qualifies you to lead the most powerful entity on the planet. :rolleyes: I don't think it's the gay thing exclusively - Bush, on the outside, appears to be a nice guy, and his traditional values and humble, childish features appeal to a large part of the population, especially the church-goers.

[Dominic]

The US Election is being televised (CBS) all day here in Australia.

I hope everyone is voting.

[debunked]

The President is up so far - thank goodness.
pull up cbsnews.com or cnn.com or www.foxnews.com

Bush is winning by popular vote so far - ahead by 2 million - I hope he wins strong on both

[david_sakh]

I bet Antoney has a glass of vodka in one hand and a cup of clorox in the other...

anyway, cnn.com has a handy map, and it's a depressing blood-red...

[Such Great Heights]

Right now on CNN.com they show

Bush = 197 Electoral Votes
Kerry = 188 Electoral Votes

270 Electoral Votes = win

Popular vote shows
Bush = 34,456,527
Kerry = 32,658,156

But as shown by last election, popular vote doesn't equal a win.

[david_sakh]

But as shown by last election, popular vote doesn't equal a win.

laughs at founding fathers. I'm no bush backer - but I have to agree the entire electoral college is BS. Everything or nothing approach is BS as well. :p

[debunked]

I think it has been time the electoral college is used only in an emergency- such as an attack on US soil. Yes, that would have been Gore for the last four years and probably a lot more attacks on US soil - so I don't feel sorry for gore not being able to steal it last time.

[Sorvoja]

Dear friends,

I would like to congratulate you with the reelection of president Bush.
For those of you that supportent senator Kerry I hope you will find it comforting that
Bush both won the popular vote and got the most electorial voters. I guess you all would have disliked a rerun of the 5 weeks of recount you had back in year 2000.

Do you know that you have spent more than 1.000.000.000 USD on the presidental election alone, I hope some of you will see the problem with that kind of spending. I heard that in some states the spending per vote is as high as 80 USD. Someone should realize that TV-spots are a problem even for your form of democracy (which is not anywhere close to a real democracy by European standards).

[Such Great Heights]

I don't think it's official of who won, but I do agree that the system needs to be reformed.

[debunked]

Yes way too much money spent on campaigning. We should vote in a limit. That money could be used to help the poor.

It isn't over yet, since the Kerry team may be looking to cause a gore in Ohio now.


Yikes

[Such Great Heights]

Oh geez that dumb Kerry team wants to make sure all the votes are counted.
I can't believe them. It's not like there was a controversy last presidental election or anything. :rolleyes:

[Help Desk]

...Someone should realize that TV-spots are a problem even for your form of democracy (which is not anywhere close to a real democracy by European standards).
You're right, the US form of democracy isn't nearly as whiny or ineffective as Norwegian democracy.

Visit Norway! (Europe's Wang!)

[clubbin714]

I think it is over. Bush has won it. We need to get over this and prepare for 4 more years of bush.

[Sorvoja]

You're right, the US form of democracy isn't nearly as whiny or ineffective as Norwegian democracy.


Why would you say something like that? Over here we have the same voteing laws everywhere in the same nation, there is no need to register to vote, there has not been any reports of vote fraud ever, the election officials here are not the representatives of any parties, all political parties gets lots of press coverage not only in newspapers, but also on TV and radio. Political advertising is illegal. And most importantly one voter equals one vote!

In comparason the US democracy isn't a real democracy. You all sould learn from Europe and reform your system. i think the american people would enjoy a democratic system, without the negative advertising, and a true democratic popular vote.

[anthonycea]

Just look back on the last four years of Cheney and Bush, then you will know your future.

Not very good, it will be like living in the old Soviet Union by the time the Republicans get done with America.

Got money to buy Gas?

Wait until you see the crime and riots break out because of the jobs and economic situation.

[Help Desk]

Why would you say something like that? Over here we have the same voteing laws everywhere in the same nation, there is no need to register to vote, there has not been any reports of vote fraud ever, the election officials here are not the representatives of any parties, all political parties gets lots of press coverage not only in newspapers, but also on TV and radio. Political advertising is illegal. And most importantly one voter equals one vote!

In comparason the US democracy isn't a real democracy. You all sould learn from Europe and reform your system. i think the american people would enjoy a democratic system, without the negative advertising, and a true democratic popular vote.
The population of Norway is about 4.5 million. The population of New York City alone is 8 million. The State of New York has a population of over 19 Million.

Now doesn't it make sense that each of these states makes their own voting laws? Hmmm... why yes it does!

[Sorvoja]

The population of Norway is about 4.5 million. The population of New York City alone is 8 million. The State of New York has a population of over 19 Million.

Now doesn't it make sense that each of these states makes their own voting laws? Hmmm... why yes it does!

You can't use the size of the poulation as an argument for having a lower quality democracy. European countries like Germany and France are both capable of running elections without using the US system, also coutries like India has a more real democracy then the USA (and India has a population close to one billion). I hope you will have some major reforms to your voting system, election laws to make your system more like a real democracy.

[anthonycea]

You are correct, the system is subject to great manipulation, it is corrupt against the poor and those who can not drive.

We need to allow online voting over secure servers so folks can vote from home or an approved online voting center.

The Federal law must be changed, since it is a national election, the same Federal law should apply to the whole nation taking state laws out of the picture.

The electoral voting process is corrupt and should be banned.

[Help Desk]

You can't use the size of the poulation as an argument for having a lower quality democracy....
Point out one recent elected official who was elected wrongly. If you are referencing the electoral vote, it's whole purpose is to act as a buffer from other states possible indiscretions. It is nearing the end of it's usefullness however and could be done away with in a few elections time.

You keep saying "this" and "that" is a better democracy but you don't give any details. You give no backing to any of the points you try to assert.

[lorien1973]

furthermore; the electoral system is in place because this is a representative democracy. To argue that it should be removed, you have to say that every vote should go directly to the people. If you think that getting 100% of the EV;s for 51% of the vote is wrong, then you also have to say that having a senator or a representative in office for getting 51% of the vote is also wrong - its the same thing.

[anthonycea]

Face it, the system is corrupt and broke, when an election can be determined by partisan politics like the 2000 election where the candidates brother is Governor of a Republican controlled state and swings the election to his own family.

If that ain't broke than Cheech and Chong never smoked no dope folks.

Get Real, America is in trouble unless THE PEOPLE wake up and DEMAND change.

[Help Desk]

Face it, the system is corrupt and broke...
You can, have and will say all this without formal examples that have any significant weight. However, the people have spoken this time. If there wasn't a war currently going on, GWB would have been out just like his father. America is not known to voluntarily change presidents during wartime.

[anthonycea]

Bling, if you need more proof than provided in my prior post then you are the one that has no real understanding.

I will say your word selection and posting style have improved a bit, but the theme of your posts I still question.

[Help Desk]

Bling, if you need more proof than provided in my prior post then you are the one that has no real understanding...
More? I just need some.

[anthonycea]

Were you still in the old country in 2000?

[mopacfan]

You know, I just re-visited this thread for the first time since the election, and I wonder how many wish they could reverse those votes for kerry. It makes me sad to know there there are so many lost souls out there. Tisk, tisk, tisk.

Anthony, where are you?

[anthonycea]

Face it Mopacfan, if Daddy and Brother Jeb did not steal the first Election your hero would not have ever been in office in the first place.

We would not have gas prices at record levels that will take the economy into depression.

We would not be in a war that will never end and that we can not win.

We would still have support from the nations of the world.

The American people would not have been defrauded like we have for the past 4 years and like we will be for the next 4 years.

Got anything more to add about reversing votes or do you agree with the first stolen election along with the rest of the corruption of the Bush/Cheney Administration?

[lowrider14044]

:D Hey....Out here in oil land once Kerry conceeded the gas prices dropped to $1.72 a gallon for regular unleaded and my stocks went up. Thanks Uncle George !

[mopacfan]

Stolen? If that were the case, then don't you think the liberals would have won this election?

Check out how little this country really believes in the democratic BS:
http://www.hannity.com/img/election_map04.gif

[lowrider14044]

My eyesight isn't what it used to be but I don't see one blue blip in Oklahoma. :)

[anthonycea]

See how many friends Bush has outside of this nation, not many, ask our British friends what they think of him.

70% plus in Europe do not support him, it is only dumb Americans that fall for the propaganda from the Oil criminals.

Don't let John Kerry take your guns, Bush will give you more guns, want to go to Iraq and fight for oil money.

Why don't you send your kids to be targets dude?

[SEbasic]

Check out how little this country really believes in the democratic BS
Personally, I think that is the problem...

If the money that went on the election campaigns had been spent on getting the homeless off the streets in America, I bet there would be a lot less homeless on the streets.

You are pumped full of political propaganda and lies (Regardless as to what candidate you are watching).

I have to say, from thee outside world that is where I live, the USA currently looks like one of the least democratic and free nations in the world.

Either candidate stood for things that I simply do not believe in.

I could not have voted for either. But if I had to have chosen, I would have voted for Kerry.

Anthony, no wonder Kerry didn't win, he had no firm values.

But I wish on the stars, that he had been consistent. Because then maybe the whole world wouldn't be faced with having to live under a man, that gives the impression that all he cares about is money...

I'm not saying that everyone else outside of the US hates Bush.

But a fairly substantial proportion of the globe dislikes the man.

Do you honestly think that your country is safer with him in power???

Think about it. He is one of the most disliked men in the world (And you can't object to that), he has had *questionable* relationships with the people that previously caused such terrible damage to your country, and he *seems* to be leading a war just so that one of his best buddies can make a bit more cash.

While putting you at risk of an attack that could not be stopped - Terrorists are unstoppable. They believe in what they believe in because they think that it allows them entrance into heaven.

How can guns beat a man who is not afraid of life???

I'm sorry. But I don't think that being able to have guns in your household will prevent you facing terrible harm from an army (who is not afraid to die) that is being fought by a man that profits from war.

Just my $0.02

[mopacfan]

See how many friends Bush has outside of this nation, not many, ask our British friends what they think of him.
That's a good point. Churchill wasn't very popular either, but he got the job done and ended up being a national hero.

The US, in this election, just told the rest of the world where to get off! If it wasn't for US, the french would be speaking German right now, and so would the rest of Europe. How quickly they forget.

To the international audience here, I'm sorry if you're offended by these remarks, but the US along with the UK, did win the last world war.

The muslim extremists (which most muslims are) want to kill us and anyone else anywhere in the world that does not think, look or act as they do. We're not going to try to appease them, we're going to root them out and eliminate them. Apeasement as kerry would have it would just make the enemy that much stronger.

[anthonycea]

Your nuts man, Europe and Russia and China will not support the US in this war, in the end they all want us out.

China is sending an unlimited supply or weapons into the war zone.

So will Russia, they do not want us there, how much longer do you think that Europe will support us.

They are laughing at our go it alone war. The British will not last much longer as their government has no support at home any longer for the Bush/Blair friendship.

Keep dreaming man, the US will pull out of Iraq before you know it.

No way we will stay there, men and weapons will continue to pour into that country until Kingdom come.

What you do not realize Mopacfan, is that those folks are not only fighting for what they call their religion and land, but for the Trillions of dollars of oil that is under the ground.

You do not see the USA in Africa fighting for freedom now do you?

There are millions of Africans dying everyday from war and famine, are we there?

Why are we not? Because they have no oil, the enemy is not blowing up oil pipelines everyday for nothing in Iraq.

The fight is over oil, not freedom, never has been, never will be, so you can take your silly "freedom BS" and stick it man.

The American people will not support this war much longer, Bush is running out of the "thousand points of light" and soldiers that believe in his Oil War.

[debunked]

The terrorist from the oil rich countries have money and resources to hurt us. Terrorists in islamic countries in Africa have neither so they are killing in their own home for now.

Take out the big guns first.

[anthonycea]

Just warms my heart to know that you have the plan, send it to Bush please, it can't be any worse than his ;)

[lorien1973]

Kerry had a plan this election cycle. In fact, he said so about 30 times in 1 debate. If kerry is such a patriot and so brilliant as to be able to solve every problem anyone presented him with, why doesn't he turn over his plan(s) to the president so that the world can bask in what might have been? :P

[ferret77]

"The muslim extremists (which most muslims are) "

I think that statement really shows you ignorance and you bigotary, there are millions and millions of peaceful muslims all over the world

the vote was close to 50 to 50 showing a bunch of red areas where bush led by 3-5 points does not show total domination

The average person is stupid, all the you have to do is walk to the local mall to know that.

Bush won narrowly, using swift boat ads and direct mail that said stuff like "liberals will ban the bible". Pussy democrats didn't start the smear ads till the end. Why? I have no idea?

[lorien1973]

come on, dems have been smearing for 4 years now. some of the ads put out by th 527's have been the worst ads ever. In FL here, kerry had ads that said bush was against equal pay for women and a few other laughable things that I was amazed a legitimate candidate was even saying.


"The muslim extremists (which most muslims are) "

I think that statement really shows you ignorance and you bigotary, there are millions and millions of peaceful muslims all over the world

Very true. the extremists are less than 1% of the total muslim population; but as with most extremists, their actions tend to define the majority and since the moderate muslims (for the most part) do not speak out and come against the extremists, its easy for people to make the connection - unfortunately.

[ferret77]

I know the 527 put out smear ads too but nothing on the scale of the swiftboats, then fox news was running stories playing the whole ad nation wide once or twice a day for awhile

I live in florida too, I never saw against equal pay for woman ad, I some pretty crazy betty castor ads. "Betty castor head of terrorist cell at some college blah blah" its pretty funny in sort of cynical way

They had that kerry ad about bush and saudis running in the last week or so, why didn't they run that sooner, whats bush going do deny any involvement with the suadis.

When bush ran for govern of texas he ran smear ads, and won, against john mcain he did the same thing, and now this race. I don't really see how people didn't see it coming and come up with some response.

[anthonycea]

Look at what other nations think of Bush in the following link.

Americans are the only one's with their heads in the sand, the rest of the world is not with us.

http://217.160.163.211/globalvote2004/


That means America is not successful and can not win on the world stage.

[lorien1973]

the opinions of other countries fail to interest me. they dont have the same perspective, nor do they know all of the issues at play in an election.

Never be successful on the world stage? Other countries envy us. That is the problem - we are too successful and prosperous, they are mad that we run the global economy, that we are the lone super power anymore. Too many people believe in multi-polarity like it was in the Cold War. Which country donates the most to Aids in Africa? We do. Which country donates the most food/medicine to 3rd world countries? We do. Which country donates money/relief to countries who get natural disasters or wars? We do. When there is a disaster in the world; no one goes running to France to fix it. they come to us and say help. And when we go looking out for our best interests; they get mad at us? Let them get mad. When the europeans can fix things in their own backyard, then I'll take them seriously.


know the 527 put out smear ads too but nothing on the scale of the swiftboats, then fox news was running stories playing the whole ad nation wide once or twice a day for awhile

2 things. compare the swift boats to the other 527's anti bush. The swift boats were at least believable (and raised some interesting issues about kerry's record - not sure if i believe them or care all but they were interesting at least -- kerry put his vietman experience on display as the primary reason to vote for him so attacking it became legitimate) because they came from people who had served with kerry in the past, who questioned his actions when he got back etc. Then look at the other ones...the crazy things they put on TV and on radio completely drowned out any message by kerry and that campaign. The anti bush 527's did far more damage to kerry than they did to bush. and kerry legitimized the swift boats by questioning them - if the kerry had laughed it off or not responded, they wouldn't have been nearly as big an issue as they were. By talking about them, kerry put vietnam square in the media and brought a lot of attention to his post war activities, to his record since etc etc etc. Dont blame fox for that - kerry brought it down on himself. 1 group with about 15 million dollars was more effective than groups with 100's of millions of dollars against bush. Who woulda thunk it?

I get tired of people blaming fox news for everything. About 2 million people watch fox on a given night, yet about 39% of voters had heard and thought the swift boats had a credible campaign. Fox's fault? hardly. Kerry legitimized it; kept it in the news for a long time; and it completely dragged down his campaign.

Kerry's campaign was a joke until the first debate - he was falling in the polls consistently across the country. Had Bush performed well in that debate, the election would have been over at that point. Kerry wouldnt have stood a chance..but Bush - being Bush (he is painful to listen to sometimes) - messed it up and made it tighter than it needed to be.

[anthonycea]

With a post like that I can understand why the citizens of the world hate Americans, you need to wake up a bit.

If you think that America can make it in this world alone you have a lot to learn.

[Lever]

the opinions of other countries fail to interest me. they dont have the same perspective, nor do they know all of the issues at play in an election.Is it just me or does that sound arrogant and introverted? That's the beauty of perspective, there's always another angle. So, enlighten me to all the issues at play, I think I missed something :)

Never be successful on the world stage? Other countries envy us. That is the problem - we are too successful and prosperous, they are mad that we run the global economy, that we are the lone super power anymore. Too many people believe in multi-polarity like it was in the Cold War.It may once have been "You will bow down before me" but times change and empires have their time. The Roman Empire has been and gone, the British Empire is no more...

Which country donates the most to Aids in Africa? We do. Which country donates the most food/medicine to 3rd world countries? We do. Which country donates money/relief to countries who get natural disasters or wars? We do.Which country promotes the greatest "Chrisitan" morals?
Which country has the biggest pornographic industry?
Which country has is the biggest consumer of pornography?
Which country has the most gun crime, obese people, pumps out the most pollution, consumes the highest proportion of resources....?

There's something a bit awry here, Lorien1973, can you see it? Need an outside perspective?

When there is a disaster in the world; no one goes running to France to fix it. they come to us and say help. And when we go looking out for our best interests; they get mad at us? Let them get mad. When the europeans can fix things in their own backyard, then I'll take them seriously.Mixed bag of insults there. Is it because France gives enough already and the needy have to actually *ask* the richest nation to dip its hands in its deep pockets to get something?

As for taking Europe seriously, funny that there were negotiations to trade oil in "Euros" just before Bush & Co. stomped in and put paid to that (http://www.phonono.com/NotaboutOILORIRAQ.html - read the section on "Oil Dollars") then feel free to add me to your ignore list until you think I can contribute something worthwhile to your cause.

Sorry to get all European on you there, Johann dude. You have a nice day :)

Your friend, whatever, Lever :D

[anthonycea]

Please Lever, don't try to teach the Bush supporters anything, they are like Jethro, they ain't got but a 6th grade education.

Don't be so hard on them, an education would be like being blinded by the light, after all, the only thing they watch are Bush campaign commercials during breaks and also within the Fox New Broadcast itself :D :o

Don't waste time in an attempt to help them understand, they know not what they do Lever.... :D

[Lever]

LOL You know me, Anthony, just trying to keep a balance here - speaking softly whilst carrying big stick rather than speaking biggly whilst carrying soft stick :D

Sure is mighty purtty 'round here

[SEbasic]

Hehe - This made me giggle

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/05/kill_bush_website/

[lowrider14044]

Will the debate ever end??? :) Regardles of who you support or what you think of Bush, Kerry, or anyone else, this is what we've got for the next 4 years. All the debating, unnecessary name calling and childishness won't change that.

From my sig most can probably tell that I have ties to Russia. I received a note from one of my Russian friends yesterday. Here's part of it:

"I was glad to know that Americans reelected Bush. I also "voted" for him in my heart :-) I think Americans should be very grateful to their president for they didn't have a single act of terrorism in America since 9/11. I wish I could say the same.Think of Russia where securiy services are not that resolute and perfect compared to American ones :-("

Just one unsolicited comment from one person but it's something to think about?

[Sorvoja]

Russia :-) Funny :-) :)


If the US is so bad, why don’t you move to Russia?
(http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=If+the+US+is+so+bad%2C+why+don%E2%80%99t+you+move+to+Russia%3F%22)

I guess the US would have a lot more terrorism if they where bordering some of the countries they are in war with. So let's hope Bush won't invade Canada any time soon :-)

Seriously, Bush isn't really that bad. Even if you don't agree with the policies you should feel happy that you live in a mostly safe country. I hope you will have some reforms making your kind of democracy work more like a true democracy, but I think you will be in good hands for the next four years. Atleast I am (and many other that make a noticable extra income from the high oil prices) very pleased that you will countinue with your current administration.

[lowrider14044]

I don't think we'll invade Canada any time soon. At least I hope not. Actually I think oil prices dropped about 4% right after he was re-elected? I doubt it was because of that though. Some are saying it's because of Sadat's health situation? Who knows?

It would be nice if the world were a perfect and peaceful place but I don't think we'll see that until nature takes over or we wipe ourselves out and another species is dominent. But then they'll probably have battles between themselves too. Just like the dinosaurs did. :) Maybe we'll get lucky and evolution will head towards H.G. Wells "The Time Machine" and we'll wind up like the Eloi except without the Morlocks? :)

[anthonycea]

Anwar Sadat was Shot about 20 years ago, are you sure of your statements, seems that you Bush supporters really are lost somewhat.

Sadat was the President of Egypt, killed a long time ago.

Arafat is the one you are thinking of.

Read Levers Link and you will find out that we can not win the Oil War without destroying the world.

We have no friends other than those that Bush has bribed, Tony Blair is on his way out in the UK.

When he is gone, the US will have no support on the world stage, maybe we can send all of you who voted for Bush to fight the Oil Wars.

Don Rumsfeld sure could use some more fighters, he is running short of believers in a hurry.

[lowrider14044]

Hey..It's early here in Tulsa and I've already been at the office for 3 1/2 hours and it's only 7:30. Plus I need more coffee. :) How about Arafat?

Leaving to get some stronger coffee :)

[Help Desk]

I don't think we'll invade Canada any time soon. At least I hope not...
Canada even let's France bully them around. There will be no need for anybody to invade Canada. They just concede when there is a chance for military conflict.

[Sorvoja]

Hi Bing,

I feel you are being unfair to both Canada and France.

You will find the worlds best soliders in Legion Etrangere, they are the best because
nobody trains harder, does more real fighting, and because the French generals doesn't care if they live or die. Canadian soldiers have been fighting bravely in many wars, Norwegians will never forget "Little Norway" and the help and assistance during WWII.

[anthonycea]

Yes, we get some of these guys that brag about America winning WW2, the USA was a great part of the victory and so were the British, but if it were not for the Russians, Hitler may have won the war in Europe.

http://vivisimo.com/search?v%3Asources=Web&query=Russia+win+WW2&x=50&y=6

:rolleyes: :) :rolleyes:

[sapphiro15]

I dont trust Bush to hold such a powerful role responsibilty.

[anthonycea]

Trust Bush? :confused:

Could you trust a hungry cat not to kill a mouse? ;)

[Weirfire]

Trust Bush? :confused:

Could you trust a hungy cat not to kill a mouse? ;)

AC - I didn't know you made spelling mistakes. Are you not supposed to be a researcher? You should be ashamed of yourself. :eek:

[anthonycea]

You dirty no good rotton, payback is doublefold today, hay Weirfire???

Sorry Weirfire, Your dirty no good ROTTEN!!!!! :confused: :( :)

[Weirfire]

lol AC - Just saw it before you changed it. :rolleyes:

[anthonycea]

I am going to tell Kalina you are picking on me, you know how sensitive I am about my spelling, you and Minstrel just love to catch me in spell check land :confused: ;) :mad:

[Weirfire]

I am going to tell Kalina you are picking on me, you know how sensitive I am about my spelling, you and Minstrel just love to catch me in spell check land :confused: ;) :mad:

Sorry mate. It was a little insensitive. For all I knew, you could have been dislexic. I take it back :)

[Lever]

...For all I knew, you could have been dislexic...LOL, don't you mean dyslexic... ;)

[Weirfire]

exactly Lever :rolleyes: :o

[anthonycea]

Yea, you get him Lever, you must keep our most famous member honest, you know "Hot Tub Weirfire" is making you guys from the UK become an after thought :confused:

I would imagine that you guys from the UK will keep him honest for quite some time since he has stolen your thunder on the forums.

Weirfire, just remember, with so many gunning for you, when you crawl out of your cave, be prepared to get hit by everyone watching out for you.... :p

[Weirfire]

I shall keep that in mind AC. I think I'll get some lessons in how to be popular from Kalina :)

[anthonycea]

Yea, being in the public eye can be brutal, with your every comment being recorded for all to see forever. ;)

You know all about it Weirfire, now you must face your public, with critics like Lever, I would watch my step.

You need to read the "I hate Paris Hilton" thread to find out how Lever treats public figures that he does not like all that much.

These guys from the UK will not be so kind to you forever Weirfire, just be careful, don't get on their bad side as they are mad because of your fame :confused: :mad: ;)

[Weirfire]

You underestimate the powers of my diplomacy AC.

Lever is not my enemy, he merely keeps me on the right tracks so that I am less prone to attacks. Ask him yourself if you dont believe me :)

[anthonycea]

Trying to get on the good side already Weirfire :confused:

A professional critic is not swayed by compliments Weirfire.....

Just don't leave yourself open Weirfire, you are being watched by a worldwide audience and Google also.

Plus the old lady is sure to find and read each comment ;) :mad: :D

[Lever]

We're all friends here and we all watch out for eachother, that's what makes the DP community such a strong unit. All the idiots are ousted and what is left are good people, getting along and respecting eachother, whatever their views - just the way it should be :D

[anthonycea]

Sure Lever, Sure :rolleyes: ;) :)

[worldman]

Well Bush won, so all you Kerry fans tough luck.

[AGS]

Well Bush won, so all you Kerry fans tough luck.

There is absolutely no doubt that worldman is bumping some very very very very old posts. :confused:

In fact, being an admin on many forums sice 1997 I would certainly say this dude is what is commonly known as a SPEED POSTER.

[Blogmaster]

Well Bush won, so all you Kerry fans tough luck.

thank you for the quick update. You should work for one of the major networks :D

[lorien1973]

maybe it just took him 2 years to come up with that pearl of wisdom? :confused:

[Blogmaster]

better than some folks who still talk about Nixon ;)

[earlpearl]

Damn:

Who to vote for? Nixon or McGovern. So happy someone reminded me of this upcoming election

[EasyMarketer]

The upcoming election wouldnt have Bush in it tho :p

[Blogmaster]

The upcoming election wouldnt have Bush in it tho :p

Another great newscaster in the making ;)

[lorien1973]

What if one of the local races has a guy named "bush" on it. Then it would, wouldnt it? :P

Why is this thread continuing? *boggles*

[earlpearl]

I'm voting for Ross Perot!!!!!!!


Since this thread got bumped...both bush and kerry have added votes...Will there be a recount?

[Crazy_Rob]

Gary Hart has my vote!

[Person]

Vote Colbert in '08!

[chulium]

Mitt Romney '08 - he's a Mormon! ^_^

[pingpong123]

Like it or not, nixon was on his way to becoming the most powerful president in american history before he was taken down. He saw what had happened to kennedy and started recruiting old cia hands to work for him. HE really had a grip on true power before the power elite decided to take him down. As far as who i would vote for for president, it doesnt really matter. The power elite and special interest groups are going to do whatever they want because they have the clout, connections, money and power to influence these things into action. Look up nasm 55, 56 and 57 then do a reading on nasm 263 and 273 then u will understand what im talking about:)

[Will.Spencer]

At this point, I just hope that someone runs who I can feel good about voting for.

[AGS]

Well Hilary Clinton is going to win it for sure.

All they have to do is reverse the fake voting machines in the favour of the Democrats.

The whole system is so totally corrupt it's pretty easy to predict which idiot will be next in the hot seat.

One thing is for sure though is that whoever gets the nod cannot possibly be worse than or more stupid than Bush, the most arrogant asshole in the world. :)

[Rick_Michael]

Well Hilary Clinton is going to win it for sure.



I believe this to be wrong. She insults far too many people in her own party...the only one that can match her in insulting their own party is McCain.

[Will.Spencer]

I do agree that Hillary is most likely to be the next U.S. President.

I'm already shopping for villas overseas. :D

[Blogmaster]

Gary Hart has my vote!

Saw him on TV the other day, he's gotten so old, didn't even recognize him.

[Will.Spencer]

It's just too bad that Gary hasn't gotten any smarter. :D

[Blogmaster]

It's just too bad that Gary hasn't gotten any smarter. :D

He shoulda waited to screw around until getting into the white house like his buddy Bill. heh

[earlpearl]

I'm not 100% sure but since this thread reappeared both Bush and Kerry have gotten more votes! Hmmmmm. should real elections be run this way?;)

[Will.Spencer]

He shoulda waited to screw around until getting into the white house like his buddy Bill. heh

I still remember a friend of mines biggest shock when he found out about Bill's affair with Monica.

My friend was working for Bill at the White House during the time when the affair was happening.

He wasn't surprised at Bill's lack of ethics. He wasn't surprised by Bill's lack of honesty. He wasn't surprise by Bill's lack of taste.

He was amazed that Bill managed to arrange that amount of time alone with anyone.

[Rebecca]

I am waiting for Jon Stewart (from the daily show) to run. I think he would be an excellent president. If he would run I would help with his campaign for free. So if your reading this jon...(haha)