MSN sends me no traffic, even if I rank on 1st page !

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upper

Jul 23rd 2007, 12:44 am

Hello,

You might get this weird but it is true.
I am on the first page on MSN for general web directory (http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=general+web+directory&go.x=0&go.y=0&form=QBRE) and for seo friendly general web directory (http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=SEO+Friendly+General+Web+Directory&go.x=0&go.y=0&form=QBRE) and despite that in the last month I got only 1 unique visitor on my directory.ipgp.net (http://directory.ipgp.net/).I just cannot believe it !

Having this in mind... I am wondering... how much share does MSN have ? is it so insignificant search engine ? Is it happening to you too ?

leo

Jul 23rd 2007, 1:09 am

Yup - that's normal I would say. It simply tells you that SEO is just one component. If you optimise for the wrong search engine you can still end without business...

Rgds

cool_78

Jul 23rd 2007, 1:14 am

Not a lot of people use MSN so there is a lack of traffic.

godmode

Jul 23rd 2007, 1:16 am

MSN is uselss and u r so right bout no.1 rank. wonder what kind of people search msn and what do they actually search.

upper

Jul 23rd 2007, 1:22 am

Not a lot of people use MSN so there is a lack of traffic.

and why do they keep and maintain it then ? :(

PS: to be sincere.. the first and last time I used MSN it was to search for my web directory on it to see the ranking situation... :D

r3born

Jul 23rd 2007, 3:32 am

I sometimes use MSN to make an image search.
The results are usually better than Google's.

ktutorials

Jul 23rd 2007, 4:03 am

actually when i found traffic stats between hotmail.com(msn netwrk) and google.com(google netwrk) i was stunned... msn was far better than google.... so it can some other reasons for ur traffic-loss...

almondj

Jul 23rd 2007, 10:27 am

Maybe if you shot for improving on the keyword of "directory" "web directory" "site directory" the simple words. If grabbed #1, you'd probably get 100's of uniques.

dlm

Jul 23rd 2007, 10:43 am

Rick Sloboda

Jul 23rd 2007, 1:02 pm

dlm's right. Those aren't effective keywords to target. Sure, it's easier to get top rankings for obscure terms that aren't targetted by other websites, but you'll attract little traffic, if any. MSN holds almost 10 per cent of the overall search engine market share; that's nothing to sneeze at! Yahoo has about 24 per cent and Google about 50 per cent. Best to target all three, and some of the smaller ones if you're serious about SEO.

Mental

Jul 23rd 2007, 1:25 pm

You should not worry to much about MSN. Google is the search engine where most of your traffic should come from. Besides not many people use MSN search.

zangief

Jul 23rd 2007, 1:39 pm

I found out that my entertainment site gets some traffic from msn but my tecnical site don't get much although both of them ranks well.Generally tecnical searchers are conservative and stick what they are using, since your keywords are for webmasters this does not surprise me.

session99

Jul 23rd 2007, 4:59 pm

I have a pretty similar issue. I am ranked on the first page of MSN as well as Yahoo for some certain keywords, but traffic from them have been minimal. Looks like I'm not the only one.

Quantan

Jul 23rd 2007, 5:22 pm

it's strange, maybe you should try to contact them to ask

KiruSoft

Jul 23rd 2007, 6:06 pm

use google.com

vicdigi

Jul 24th 2007, 3:52 am

question you need to ask is how many searched are performed for these keywords.

I found before live.com released msn.com or msn.co.uk used to send far more traffic!

mirturk

Jul 25th 2007, 9:39 am

MSN not prefered like Google or Yahoo. Maybe so don't send visitor.

kampoo

Jul 25th 2007, 8:00 pm

How many search volume/day

what is title of that pages, and content that show?

I think it is important factor

DigiDiary

Jul 27th 2007, 1:13 am

MSN entertains new websites, but getting some quality traffic from it is difficult as most of the net users prefer google. of course, I get some traffic from and a few sales from msn. its not that bad.

centime

Jul 27th 2007, 5:10 am

i get a fair amount of traffic from msn, however, I think perhaps the keywords you've tergeted are the issue,

even on google, traffic volume for those would be very low

gio

Jul 27th 2007, 5:38 am

i get 1-2 visits a day from msn.. :D

eli03

Jul 27th 2007, 9:51 am

your niche/keyword are for webmaster not for ordinary surfer. most webmaster used google or yahoo.

simey

Jul 27th 2007, 10:59 am

I'm getting more traffic from some very specific single (long tail) keywords on google than some very general keywords I rank well for on MSN.

Plus the google keywords are more targeted and likely to convert.

Ask seems to be bringing more traffic than MSN on some sites...

Madmurphy

Jul 27th 2007, 11:54 am

The people who search MSN are the people who got it on the new computer in my opinion and never changed there home page. So you have to think what would these people be searching for if you want traffic from them.

braver55b

Jul 27th 2007, 12:08 pm

MSN has proven to be useless to me so your predicament doesn't really surprise me.

It just doesn't have the pull of say Google.

dueces

Jul 27th 2007, 12:55 pm

I think for your terms your not going to see many SEO people searching on MSN I would say most stick to google or so it seems. at least I do

nickflame

Jul 27th 2007, 2:13 pm

the problem is with the keywords as seo related searches are generated by webmasters which obviously use google.
If you optimize for movies, games, etc, you ll see some trafic .

Albert1

Jul 29th 2007, 4:57 am

I sometimes use MSN to make an image search.
The results are usually better than Google's.

It might have good results but the volume is very small.

Design1

Aug 4th 2007, 5:20 pm

I ranked #1 for a very competitive term on MSN for awhile. MSN gave me next to nothing for traffic, i was very surprised.

PalmIslands

Aug 4th 2007, 6:50 pm

Only Google and Yahoo send me traffic. MSN used to, not anymore :(

Tearabite

Aug 4th 2007, 7:07 pm

Google sends me around 10,000 visitors per day.. MSN sends me about 100 ...

RoyalSeo

Aug 4th 2007, 8:10 pm

A lot of people use hotmail, never heard of the search engine.

Google still rules :p

SEOguy101

Aug 6th 2007, 1:11 am

I looked on overture keyword suggestion tool...that keyword is not even on the list so I'm assuming it gets less than 50 searches a month on google, let alone MSN. Make sure you use a keyword suggestion tool to see if the keyword gets traffic BEFORE you optimize that term. I wouldn't bother optimizing anything that gets less than 500 searches per month on overture (yahoo), but this will depend on the industry and other factors.