View Full Version : Google Competitor Gets $165million Kick Start
zman
Jul 20th 2007, 4:26 am
Did you guys see this (http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/20/eu-google-competitor-gets-165million-cash-injection/)?
Theseus, a German based project that is aiming to develop “the world’s most advanced multimedia search engine for the next-generation Internet.” will received a cash injection of $165 million from the German Government, under approval by the EU.
I'm in no way suggesting this is a "Google killer", but $165 million is a lot of cash to back the right idea.
Thoughts?
checksum
Jul 20th 2007, 5:12 am
http://theseus-programm.de/ is a horrible domain name for a 'Google killer'.
jro
Jul 20th 2007, 5:27 am
http://theseus-programm.de/ is a horrible domain name for a 'Google killer'.
Agreed, I really hope they don't use a name like that haha
zman
Jul 20th 2007, 5:39 am
My guess is that is just the project website. They'll have to do a much better job to get any real traction in branding.
BlindCat
Jul 20th 2007, 5:56 am
zman is right. They are just doing research.
iNTaYkE
Jul 20th 2007, 6:07 am
http://theseus-programm.de/ is a horrible domain name for a 'Google killer'.
if thats the domain that they use, it will murdered by google -.-
zman
Jul 20th 2007, 6:23 am
Guys, it is HIGHLY doubtful that this is the domain that will be used for the search engine.
Think about it...
wickedkeemo
Jul 20th 2007, 7:18 am
Exactly. They'll definitely leave some of that money to buy a good premium domain name.
Badlands07
Jul 20th 2007, 7:50 pm
Did you guys see this (http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/20/eu-google-competitor-gets-165million-cash-injection/)?
Theseus, a German based project that is aiming to develop “the world’s most advanced multimedia search engine for the next-generation Internet.” will received a cash injection of $165 million from the German Government, under approval by the EU.
I'm in no way suggesting this is a "Google killer", but $165 million is a lot of cash to back the right idea.
Thoughts?
It seems funny that Germany and France both feel the need for government involvement and support in order to compete against the growing presence that is Google. Maybe the US government should step in and help Yahoo, MSN or Ask.....:-)
jahman
Jul 21st 2007, 7:10 pm
I have no doubt that eventually someone in Europe will surpass US based companies in domination of the Internet. They have done so economically already. Thats where LINUX came from too.
zman
Jul 21st 2007, 8:19 pm
I have no doubt that eventually someone in Europe will surpass US based companies in domination of the Internet. They have done so economically already. Thats where LINUX came from too.
Hmmm... as much as I'd like to think you were right, I just can't get it to stick. Sorry, but I just don't see it happening.
The main reason is that this is government money. When has government done ANYTHING better than the private sector?
imteaz
Jul 21st 2007, 8:46 pm
lets see how long they take to get in the market. but i dont think they can be google killer. Google is too good for anybody
gerer
Jul 21st 2007, 9:28 pm
there were news of german and french scientsts developing new search engine its part of that
Blogspotter
Jul 21st 2007, 10:04 pm
Google Killer has become such a cliche, even techcrunch is using it. It says Multimedia search..
Google is GREAT in normal search, but in multimedia and other vertical search, google is already pathetic. So those german guys won't have to kill the multimedia search business of Google afterall. It is not even alive. Look at google images, or froogle.. They should be killing like.com and not google.
In simple traditional keyword and phrases search, microsoft with all the billions is still far behind.... Good Luck theseus
stickysnail
Jul 22nd 2007, 12:25 am
Haha!! I think "Google killer" will be the subject of my next blogtoon.
bloggingseo
Jul 22nd 2007, 12:35 am
I really doubt this. I mean, it's possible it may be a competitor in Europe, but I doubt it will be one in North America. Google has way more than 165 million dollars and many investors interested in thier continued dominance:-)
khudania
Jul 22nd 2007, 12:49 am
I will invest in 'theseus', because google will buy it :D
Robert Allen
Jul 22nd 2007, 4:26 am
Its unlucky that they have already got a bad name. They need employees, how do i apply?
Rob
kodut
Jul 22nd 2007, 4:27 am
when there research will be complete google might have already researched that
_123_
Jul 22nd 2007, 4:42 am
They will have to come up with something real good, Google is untouchable right now.
KingofKings
Jul 22nd 2007, 4:57 am
http://theseus-programm.de/ is a horrible domain name for a 'Google killer'.
If they use that domain, there going to be screwed. :D
upgrader
Jul 22nd 2007, 5:38 am
Not sure why most people think Google are untouchable.
"The bigger they are, the harder they fall"
All it takes is a few wrong ideas, or bad moves and they could come crashing down. yes they maybe the leaders in their field at the moment, but so was electrolux the leaders in the vacum industry, then bam out of nowhere some guy in a shed invented the dyson, and now most homes own one.
Dont get me wrong, they are doing a very good job at staying at the top, but who's their competition??
Microsoft msn - kinda like their second job, but cant or wont fully commit.
Yahoo - how long has their eqivalent to adsense been in beta now??
What goes up, must come down!
ReliableServers
Jul 24th 2007, 7:00 pm
That is a nice chunk of change :)
mann3r
Jul 24th 2007, 7:36 pm
I dont think domain is an issue, what matters most to me, is the quality they bring to the people, not a garbage porn searches or similar, if they can deliver a qualitative stuff, then why not.
godmode
Jul 24th 2007, 8:09 pm
seems like a project website and it will prolly be focussed at german websites.
ablaye
Jul 24th 2007, 9:48 pm
I read somewhere that they were starting an european competitor to Google. France, Germany and some other european countries were contributing to the project.
Is this the site?
mikepyles
Jul 24th 2007, 10:47 pm
Something Real Real Good.
imnajam
Jul 24th 2007, 11:17 pm
Well not all ideas and aims are achieived, let's see how long does the whole project takes.
nickflame
Jul 24th 2007, 11:34 pm
Google is losing market nowadays because is an American based company and pays in dollar, and as you may see the dollar is continuously decreasing, therefore not only me but many others people switched to European programs that pay in euro.
Many webmasters are thinking now of getting rid of adsense, and if google does not do anything they will lose soon .
This is why european countries are developing a competitor for google.
Claudek
Jul 24th 2007, 11:48 pm
It is only the development domain they are using at present.
Google started out as google.stanford.edu for eg
If they use that domain, there going to be screwed. :D
lkj
Jul 25th 2007, 12:40 am
they should ask ISPs to redirect all their local go.ogle traffic to their own search engine and voila ;)
KingofKings
Jul 25th 2007, 2:04 am
It is only the development domain they are using at present.
Google started out as google.stanford.edu for eg
Let's hope your right, because if they keep that domain... they are going to have trouble people remembering there site.
Adulu
Jul 25th 2007, 2:47 am
I thouht it could be google killer if they focus on Germany in German.:cool:
Smaaz
Jul 25th 2007, 3:11 am
I really doubt this. I mean, it's possible it may be a competitor in Europe, but I doubt it will be one in North America. Google has way more than 165 million dollars and many investors interested in thier continued dominance:-)
The money is only for research, not for a server farm or marketing. Thats why I think they can do a lot with $165 million.
mirturk
Jul 25th 2007, 9:32 am
I prefer hakia.com. If we will say "Google Killer" to one search engine it will be Hakia.
linkranker
Jul 29th 2007, 11:59 am
I have no doubt that eventually someone in Europe will surpass US based companies in domination of the Internet. They have done so economically already. Thats where LINUX came from too.
Though Linux came from Europe, Linus Torvalds got nothing from the Finnish Government to implement it. And now he lives in the US... I don't think that implementing a better search engine than Google or the other big players in the search engine game will be tied to any country at all. If it was all about money, think about Bill Gates at Micro$oft and their new baby Live Search. Or all the money behind Google. I think that a few hundred million won't make much difference in search engine technology development. It's only my opinion though...
gweb
Jul 29th 2007, 12:56 pm
Well whatever happens, google need something to rock it's domination.. I love Google but its is NEVER good when their is such a dominating force in ANY field.. I think the fact that Google is getting into normal street ads and eye sensors etc etc is something of a worry.. a company can get too big for it's boots and I think everyone will benefit from a more level playing field
Mihai
Jul 29th 2007, 1:45 pm
It is high-time for a EU based search engine.
uniqueinvest
Jul 29th 2007, 3:05 pm
Google has way over 165 million already to compete with these guys. And no doubt, google does have their spies and they are watching.
mydomainoffer
Jul 29th 2007, 4:28 pm
i have a million dollar premium domain name for them:
www.w3scoop.com
thanks
Idiot Inside
Jul 29th 2007, 5:40 pm
Google will acquire it for $165 x 10 million .. if they suspect that it can beat them in any way. Google will never let any search engine establish this strong.
linkranker
Jul 29th 2007, 11:20 pm
i have a million dollar premium domain name for them:
www.w3scoop.com
thanks
It sounds good, but according to this site it's not worth that much just yet: http://leapfish.com/domain_name_appraisal.php?url=w3scoop.com
coolramiz
Jul 30th 2007, 12:16 am
there should a competetor to the google...
coolramiz
Jul 30th 2007, 12:17 am
Google will acquire it for $165 x 10 million .. if they suspect that it can beat them in any way. Google will never let any search engine establish this strong.
Lets see what google does?
gocubs19
Jul 30th 2007, 7:31 pm
I will use it
ArcticPro
Jul 30th 2007, 7:38 pm
It's not about the money involved, but the actual programming and how it changes the way the user gets information.
Yahoo's billions outweighs this new startup's $165 millions, and we all know Google has more market share than Yahoo.
bricks
Jul 30th 2007, 9:21 pm
That domain name is definitely weak...since they're German and want to tackle Google my recommendation:
google-snitchzel.com
DiscussNow
Jul 30th 2007, 10:34 pm
165$ million is nothing unless they hire the best coders/devs/seo's. Google has the best, thats why they are on top.
Joint2DWorld
Jul 31st 2007, 12:20 am
Yeah - with even 1% of that money, you can pay an entire neighborhood to spend at least an hour of their time to think about a killer domain name!
Guys, it is HIGHLY doubtful that this is the domain that will be used for the search engine.
Think about it...
Tobias
Jul 31st 2007, 4:10 am
there should a competetor to the google...
There already is. Yahoo and Microsoft Live Search.
Yet, having all of their financial backing did not do anything to help them take Google's market share. Why? Google is point-and-click to the extreme - type what you want and click a button. It's a site not loaded with features that most people won't ever use like Yahoo and it surely looks alot better on a homepage then Microsoft Live.
This new project will be exactly the same, and just as fruitless. Just think of how many people in Africa could have their lives improved by that funding, yet we're worring about pettisome 'Google Killers'.
*sigh*
B2UEntertainment
Jul 31st 2007, 5:26 am
Don't forget about Ask when talking about the leading search engines. They are pretty simple like Google too, so is Live.
krispy1812
Jul 31st 2007, 5:56 am
It seems funny that Germany and France both feel the need for government involvement and support in order to compete against the growing presence that is Google. Maybe the US government should step in and help Yahoo, MSN or Ask.....:-)
Google is NOT the 'global' presence that some people think it is, neither is the West - king.
The US accounts for less than 20% of global internet presence. Google search accounts for around 30% of searches. Hardly what you would call domination.
Europe has a much larger internet presence, (but even that is dwarfed by Asian presence) - so it makes sense that people from that region feel the the need for a search facility that will be more 'euro-friendly'.
gerritpoel
Jul 31st 2007, 6:52 am
It's obvious this would turn into a USA vs. "The Rest" Thread..
It's just a research program, if they do or not exsist, what's the difference does it make to us all?
You also don't have to be the BEST to exist or make profit, if it was, all the webmasters here will be obsolete.
payabian
Jul 31st 2007, 8:59 am
Cmon guys thats not the domain which they will use for their new search engine its may be developed just for getting some suggestion and also its in German language to hope the search engine should be in english language.
Sohan
Jul 31st 2007, 4:43 pm
It's good that google is being thrown out like that, but with a name like that, it's a waste of money.
orbit7693
Jul 31st 2007, 9:24 pm
That domain is absolutely terrible, that is very hard to remember. I wish them luck on beating google.
Mark07
Aug 1st 2007, 6:44 am
Well it is impossible to beat the dominance of Google by anyway.Even if they succeed to get some kind of success in EU sooner or later it would be taken by Google.
sussane
Aug 1st 2007, 11:56 am
wow yet another google competitor. welcome to war zone
Cesay
Aug 1st 2007, 1:39 pm
Wasn't another site like this backed by the European Union supposed to do the same thing a few years ago? Nobody can stop the Google.
Schmarvin
Aug 1st 2007, 1:50 pm
I'll go for anything that isn't Google. Hell, I go for anything that isn't Microsoft. Lol.
webwiz
Aug 2nd 2007, 2:58 pm
i don't think even 165M will be enough to kill google. anyway the project is on development, so we won't see it any time soon.
vicdigi
Aug 2nd 2007, 5:38 pm
I'm in no way suggesting this is a "Google killer", but $165 million is a lot of cash to back the right idea.
Thoughts?
My thought is this. Google have been in the search engine business from the beginning.
They already employ the best people.
On the money front. If Google don't have it they can simply raise it by selling shares.
It will take something real special to rock Google's boat!
webwiz
Aug 2nd 2007, 5:41 pm
on the last resort google could easily buy the competition. just check what price google payed for youtube: 1.65 billion $.
Johnburk
Aug 3rd 2007, 5:18 pm
One of the things that made Google successful was using US media and Hollywood, both as free publicity tool and embedded advertisement. Something that is unique for the US and has also worked for Apple and YouTube.
Google won't be killed, yet it might kill itself and make room for competition in a new area. The same thing that happend to Microsoft.
If there are Google killers, then they will be local and country based or niche based. But Google will probably buy them before they get too big.
KingofKings
Aug 4th 2007, 6:14 am
One of the things that made Google successful was using US media and Hollywood, both as free publicity tool and embedded advertisement. Something that is unique for the US and has also worked for Apple and YouTube.
Google won't be killed, yet it might kill itself and make room for competition in a new area. The same thing that happend to Microsoft.
If there are Google killers, then they will be local and country based or niche based. But Google will probably buy them before they get too big.
I think the stupidest thing is to sell anything to google.com, look how much youtube.com is worth for example.
neelesh
Aug 4th 2007, 6:30 am
It is still in research phase. Later on it will have a better domain name. It maybe killer as many want to surpass google.
ximpda
Aug 4th 2007, 7:03 am
Google's buying everything.. wont be long before it buys Theseus too.
Zepo.
Aug 5th 2007, 7:06 pm
Why do europeans insist on making long domain names with -'s in them?
Nikola J
Aug 5th 2007, 9:07 pm
If google has billions to spend on youtube i really dont think 160 mill will do much. Plus to domian...
BPmedia-David
Aug 5th 2007, 10:33 pm
Google probably doesn't even need their search engine to be prosperous. As mentioned, they own youtube, and I think a few other popular sites.
But its very hard to get people to change. I kept seeing those Ask.com commercials about how the guy got what he was looking for, so I went to ask, looked for one of my sites, and couldn't find it :( I didn't get what I was looking for :(
salee
Aug 5th 2007, 10:41 pm
The domain name sound like more to army project! :)
SEOguy101
Aug 6th 2007, 1:02 am
Maybe to compete they will try to get ranked on google.de..... ;)
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