Is Yahoo still banning COOP sites?

[afactory]

I was a long time away from the forum and would like to know from you guys is Yahoo still banning COOP sites? Is there any new with it?

I have a coop site with about 20K pages indexed by Y! but site nowhere at the results even I type domain name at the search term.

Thank you for your answers!

[fryman]

Yahoo has never banned coop sites

[Jim bob 9 pants]

My site is flying in Yahoo thanks to CO-OP

[Olney]

One of my sites ranks #2 right after Microsoft's own trademarked name for one of their sites on Yahoo.

It got to #5 because of the Coop (and a few other things) but recently it went to #2

[heapseo]

Yahoo never banned sites for that, and seems infact to be doing quite the opposite

[ferret77]

I don't know if I would go as far as saying that

you guys don't know if that true or not true

Most of my orginal coop sites are kicked out of yahoo, I have a few sites with coop that still do good with yahoo

That doesn't really prove it either way

I would say their is more of chance of losing your yahoo rankings if you use coop then if you don't but there is a chance you will lose your rankings anyway

I wouldn't put coop on a clients site, if I was doing client sites

of course some a lot of my sites had like 10,000 + weight pointing at them

some even more like 25,000

[Web Gazelle]

The idea of getting banned for co-op was probably linked to the weight factor. It seemed like those who saw their site dissapear were those who had lots of weight pointed at it. Lots of weight being 10,000 plus points.

[heapseo]

I dont think it would be the amount of weight, i think it would be how quickly that weight increased. If you went from 5k to 50k pointing at a site thats a whole load of new backlinks in a short time, bound to raise red flags. If you add weight slowly - 5k a week say, backlinks are gained in a more realistic timeframe

[a389951l]

I agree that Yahoo must have somekind of backlink filter on. Too much too soon and boom you are gone.

[afactory]

It was a time when the site got about 2,000-3,000 uniques per day only from the yahoo, now it's about 10-15 uniques per month.

You think the reason could be not of the coop?

[fryman]

duh...

Could de 1000 reasons

[afactory]

tiptopvillas, maybe you are right. But in this case the problem is coop.
Nonskilful handling of a huge weight.

[afactory]

fryman, the reason of this thread is possibility of banning coop sites by yahoo.
It was discussed in june-july when lots of sites was droped from the index. You should remember it. So I just asking about the results of this discussion.

[mubashirnisar]

i was never get banned of running coop sites

[a389951l]

From what I have seen is this. The fact that you use the coop does not get you banned.

But how you accumulate links may trigger a penalty within Yahoo. You can use something else like Link Vault I suppose and trigger the penalty.

[Web Gazelle]

I have to agree with the idea of getting a penalty from gaining too many links too quickly.

[frenchmen77]

I was always under the impression that any search engine penalized sites for getting links to quickly

[maha]

Look at the result from the "Charity" experiment site. I believe you will find your answer there.

[ferret77]

as yahoo has been moving this past week, i have huge gains on one my sites using around 15,000 weight in yahoo

when i originally put the site up with abut 15,000 on it it shot up , then looked like it was kicked out

now its back not quite top but close

[SportsOutlaw]

I have never heard of a yahoo ban on coop, where did you get this idea?

[mdvaldosta]

Nobody wants to claim personal responsibility when things go bad, always want to point fingers.

[ferret77]

about maybe 4-5 months ago yahoo booted many peoples sites that were heavy users of the coop all around the same time

[minstrel]

I don't know if I would go as far as saying that

you guys don't know if that true or not true

Most of my orginal coop sites are kicked out of yahoo, I have a few sites with coop that still do good with yahoo

That doesn't really prove it either way

I would say their is more of chance of losing your yahoo rankings if you use coop then if you don't but there is a chance you will lose your rankings anyway
Everything you've said here would suggest to me that whatever is causing certain of those sites to drop in Yahoo has nothing to do with the Coop.

about maybe 4-5 months ago yahoo booted many peoples sites that were heavy users of the coop all around the same time
And many sites that were coop members were NOT kicked out of Yahoo.

I think many of those kicked out were also heavy users of bread and milk. Some were heavy users of other substances. Personally, I'm starting to think Yahoo just doesn't like bread eaters.

[ferret77]

please

at one point I had over a million coop weight

I tried all types of combinations of stuff with the coop , coop with recips, coop by itself , a little coop , a lot of coop, coop just pointing at interior pages, coop just at front pages, coop at multiple urls

I often make 2 or 4 sites and that are all similiar in theme

in one case I had 5 sites all almost identical i added coop to one and that was the one that tanked in yahoo , at the same time my bigger sites tanked

I didn't say that anything is 100% because of coop, I just said I think the older version of the coop the 100% rotating links version seemed to increase the chances of being dumped by yahoo, ecspeically when you piled the weight on.

I mean is it unreasonable to think that the SE might frown on a site suddenly have 50,000 disappearing and reappearing links that all appear in like 2 weeks?

I have couple of sites with a lot of coop weight that survived that update but that doesn't mean it didn't increase the chances of being dumped.

And many sites that were coop members were NOT kicked out of Yahoo.

yeah and they might have some piddly ass bit of weight targeting the most non competitive terms there is.

I didn't say anything was absolute, I'm sure you can find instances of cloaking sites , or sites using css to hide tons of invisible text doing good in the serps, that doesn't mean that those practices don't increase the chances of you doing bad in the future.

[minstrel]

OK. Seems unlikely to me but you're right - it's possible. I still think it's the bread thing personally.

[afactory]

So guys, what's the solution?
How can I come back to Y! listings?

Any ideas?

[spdude]

So guys, what's the solution?
How can I come back to Y! listings?

Any ideas?

The original sites which got tanked.. seem to be tanked permanently in Yahoo. I would just move on to other domains... lately, Yahoo seems to be rewarding sites which use co-op heavily.

[afactory]

Yeap, I think so :-(

[Web Gazelle]

So guys, what's the solution?
How can I come back to Y! listings?

Any ideas?
Remove the co-op if you really think that was the offending factor to your site falling from the Yahoo SERPs. You can the submit a re-inclusin request and wait, and wait, and wait. Or spend a little money on submit express.:D

[minstrel]

Exactly. If you're convinced the Coop ads are a problem, why do you need three pages of forum posts to tell you what to do? Just remove the damn ads and be done with it. Problem solved. :confused:

[aeiouy]

Minstrel,

It is irresponsible of you to blame bread. The problem is the milk.

[Dekker]

Minstrel,

It is irresponsible of you to blame bread. The problem is the milk.

Talk sexy to me. :)

[minstrel]

Minstrel,

It is irresponsible of you to blame bread. The problem is the milk.
What about that recent NIMH study* which proved conclusively that milk was NOT to blame?







(*Full disclosure: Funding for this study provided by the Dairy Board of Wisconsin)

[afactory]

Yeap, maybe, the problem could be solved only for Yahoo, but if I'll remove coop the site could lose other se possitions.

[minstrel]

afactory, I don't believe the problem is related to the Coop. Many other people have voiced that opinion as well.

You have a choice:

1. Leave your site the way it is.

2. Change whatever it is about the site you think is causing the problem with Yahoo. If you believe that is the Coop ads, dump them. If I thought the ads were harming any of my sites, believe me I'd dump them in a heartbeat.

BUT: This thread is now 4 pages long. Surely by now you have enough information to make a decision? Why continue to agonize about it publicly? Do or don't do, as Yoda would say.

[Web Gazelle]

I removed them because half the time they are showing unrelated links.

[afactory]

Is anybody came back to the serp after inclusion into the paid directory?

[petertdavis]

My site that got banned in Yahoo because of the Coop just got the penalty lifted a couple days ago. I didn't do anything special to get the ban lifted other than send them an email telling them that they're idiots for delisting it (nobody could argue that this site is anything other than a top authority site in its industry).

[minstrel]

My site that got banned in Yahoo because of the Coop just got the penalty lifted a couple days ago. I didn't do anything special to get the ban lifted other than send them an email telling them that they're idiots for delisting it (nobody could argue that this site is anything other than a top authority site in its industry).
1. how do you know you were banned as opposed to just dropping in rank?

2. if you were banned, how do you know it was because of the Coop rather than a hundred other factors?

3. if you were banned and "reappeared", how do you know it had anything to do with your email?

[petertdavis]

1. how do you know you were banned as opposed to just dropping in rank?Couldn't even find the site by the name.

2. if you were banned, how do you know it was because of the Coop rather than a hundred other factors?There were no other factors.

3. if you were banned and "reappeared", how do you know it had anything to do with your email?I don't know that, I'm just saying that's the only thing I did that may have caused it to be relisted.

[minstrel]

There are ALWAYS other factors. I think you mean that's the only one you could think of.

Yahoo is weird and their updates seem to be weird too - it's never been a great source of traffic for me. But I run the Coop on a couple of sites and use ads to link to other sites - the Coop sites rank better in Yahoo than sites that do not display the Coop ads.

It's something we keep hearing but I just don't see the evidence that the Coop is being targeted.

[petertdavis]

It's possible that it wasn't specifically because the Coop, could be something like adding too many links within a specific period, could be adding too many random links from unrelated sites, could be too many transient links, or any other factor that might come from the Coop but not be Coop specific.

And, no, there wouldn't be other factors. This is a site that's so strong in it's industry that the only way it would drop totally out of the SERPs like that is because it was intentionally delisted. Could have been a manual delisting or an auto delisting, no way for me to know, but it was delisted and there is no other reason that it would have been delisted than that it had a decent amount of Coop weight pointed at it.

[minstrel]

This is a site that's so strong in it's industry that the only way it would drop totally out of the SERPs like that is because it was intentionally delisted. Could have been a manual delisting or an auto delisting, no way for me to know, but it was delisted and there is no other reason that it would have been delisted than that it had a decent amount of Coop weight pointed at it.
Were you following what happened to various sites in Google during the Jagger update? What makes you think the Yahoo results are immune?

[petertdavis]

I'm not talking about the folks who whine because the latest update whiped out their scraper sites. LoL

This is the kind of site that it doesn't show up in the search engine then people wonder what's the problem with the search engine, not what's wrong with the site. I'm not going to post what the site is, but I'd PM it to you if you'd agree to not disclose what I'm talking about.

[minstrel]

If you wish but my point was that some major sites "disappeared" from Google during Jagger too, and then reappeared. Now if I owned one of those sites and concluded it was the Coop and removed the Coop ads in the interim before it reappeared, I might conclude it really was a Coop penalty. Or if I emailed Google in the interim and right after I did the site reappeared, I might think it was the email. In reality, it was just Google adjusting and nothing I was doing was affecting anything.

The real problem for the "Coop theory" is why all these other Coop sites are NOT being "banned".

[petertdavis]

What major sites disappeared in Jagger?

[minstrel]

Check the Jagger threads here at DP - I don't recall offhand although it seems to me that sites on the order of Amazon were mentioned... someone else may recall more specifically.

[petertdavis]

Check the Jagger threads here at DP - I don't recall offhand although it seems to me that sites on the order of Amazon were mentioned... someone else may recall more specifically.
Bah, I think you're just making it up. :p

[minstrel]

If you say so... :rolleyes:

[Lisa White]

What is Coop

[minstrel]

The DigitalPoint Coop Ad Network: http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/

You set up the Coop ads on your site and add either text ads or banner ads to the Coop pool to have yours displayed on other sites in the Coop.

[Lisa White]

Can someone give an advise, i had the same problem Yahoo drop our site, i coudn't find it on Yahoo, i am not sure why, all i know we ware listed verry well, and now non, i am not sure if its because i have on some pages google adsense, i just don't know, i had 3 link pages about three days ago i took off the link pages, i hope it will help me to get back to Yahoo.

[minstrel]

Maybe if you posted a link to the site in question?

[Lisa White]

For how long time your site went from Yahoo before its back on

[Shoemoney]

For how long time your site went from Yahoo before its back on

will love you long time?

[Dekker]

will love you long time?

kkkaakkakkakakakakakakkakakkakakakakaaa

[Lisa White]

Hi again, Thanks to all responds,

Buying a trafic to my site is a good thinks or bad, there is a site that offer hits to your site, i guess from China, is this is good or Bad.

Thank you again

[minstrel]

Probably more bad than good. As I said earlier, if you can tell people what site you're talking about, you might get more specific information or assistance.

[Web Gazelle]

Yes, by giving us a URL we might be able to give you some advice.

[Lisa White]

First, let me thank you for taking the time to answer my question, this is the site
iwshits.com/

[minstrel]

this is the site iwshits.com
Holy mackerel! English is not your first language, is it Lisa? :eek:

[minstrel]

First and foremost, you are using frames on your site. Bad idea for SEO. Search engine spiders have difficulty with frames.

[Lisa White]

What is the best way to get trafic to my site, you have been very helpful.

Thank You

[Lisa White]

So do you think i should upgrade my site, or change it not to frames, i do do the changes to the site with front page maybe thats why it looks like frame site.

[minstrel]

1. redesign your site: if you absolutely MUST use frames, at least give spiders something to feed on - remember, they are are not browsers... they are basically text readers -- this is what they'll see:

<noframes>
<body>
<p>IWSHits.com</p>
<p ALIGN=CENTER>Your browser does not support frames and is not compatible with this website<br>
Install the latest version of either Internet Explorer, Mozilla, or any standard web browser</p>



</body>
</frameset>
In fact, do a view source on your home page and if that opens the site in Notepad, this is the entire page:
<html>
<head>
<title>Pop-under Internet Advertising from IWSHits.com - Increase Traffic</title>
<META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="Push your website with pop-under internet advertising $6 / 1,000, $109 / 50,000, $189 / 100,000. Both targeted and untargeted campaigns are available.">
<META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="internet advertising, targeted traffic, targeted advertising, traffic, advertise, advertising, advertisin, hit, popup advertising, promotion, promotional advertising, site traffic, increase traffic, traffic promotion, trafic, web hit, popunder, pop-under">

<meta name="keyphrases" content="internet advertising, targeted traffic, targeted advertising, internet advertising solution, internet marketing advertising, advertise on internet, advertise on the net, advertise on web, advertise online, advertise site, advertise web site, advertising promotion, advertising traffic, bulk traffic, buy web site traffic, cheap advertising, increase hit, increase site traffic, increase traffic, increase web site traffic, increase web traffic, web site traffic, web site hit, web site hit and traffic, web site promotion, internet traffic, marketing advertising, online advertising, pop up advertising, web advertising, web page promotion, web promotion, web site advertising">

<Meta name="Audience" content="All">
<meta NAME="rating" CONTENT="General">
<meta name="robots" content="Index,Follow">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta HTTP-EQUIV="Content-language" CONTENT="en-US">
<meta name="distribution" content="Global">
<meta name="Copyright" content="2005 copyright IWSHits.com">
</head>

<frameset rows="150,*" frameborder="0" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame src="titlebar.php?s=" name="titlebar" noresize scrolling=no>
<frameset cols="140,*" frameborder="0" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame src="navbar.php?s=" name="navbar" noresize scrolling=no>
<frame src="home.php?s=" name="main" noresize scrolling=yes>
<noframes>
<body>
<p>IWSHits.com</p>
<p ALIGN=CENTER>Your browser does not support frames and is not compatible with this website<br>
Install the latest version of either Internet Explorer, Mozilla, or any standard web browser</p>



</body>
</frameset>
</frameset>
</html>

2. get links from other sites
3. submit to relevant niche directories
4. join the Coop Ad network here

[Lisa White]

Yes, This is the name.

iwshits.com/ please add www

[minstrel]

i do do the changes to the site with front page maybe thats why it looks like frame site.
No. This is not a FrontPage problem. FrontPage doesn't turn pages into frames unless you instruct it to do so. This site was created as a frame site, or you used a template that was created using frames.

I definitely would advise a site redesign, or at the very least make that <noframes>... </noframes> component a bit more meaningful for the spiders.

[Lisa White]

This is not my site is this is the frame site you are talking about IWSHits.com, my site is mymovingquote.com.

Thank you

[minstrel]

:confused:

I'm looking at iwshits.com - I thought that was the site we were discussing.

[Lisa White]

Hi Again,
I think we miss understand each other, My site is: mymovingquote.com is my site is a frame site, can you please check and tell me,

[Lisa White]

No, this is the site that sale trafic to your site, so i wander if i should use them they promis 100,000 visitors to my site for $189.99.

Thank you for your time again

[ServerUnion]

No, this is the site that sale trafic to your site, so i wander if i should use them they promis 100,000 visitors to my site for $189.99.

Thank you for your time again


NEVER buy traffic unless from a good PPC campaign. Buying traffic is a scam and will not create any conversion for you.

[minstrel]

OK. No, I don't see any frames on mymovingquote.com but I do see some coding errors and a lot of jscripting...

At the top of the page (home page), I see:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Moving Companies Directory | Movers Quote | MyMovingQuote.com</title>
<meta NAME="Keywords" CONTENT="moving companies,movers,moving services,mover,moving trucks,movers estimate,house movers,moving boxes,relocation services,long distance movers,quotes,local movers,international movers,cheap movers,best quote,guides and tips,storage relocation movers">
<META name="description" content="Compare Moving Services, Get free estimate from multiple moving companies, moving company, Trucks, Auto Transport, Movers, free Quotes at MyMovingQuote.com">
<meta name="Robots" content="index all,follow all">

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<!-- This site contains information about: moving companies, moving services, relocation services -->

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.mymovingquote.com/Styles/movingquote.css">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

The comment spam isn't going to help you. The robots meta tag is unenecessary and the syntax is wrong, I think - should be:
<meta name="Robots" content="index,follow"> but since that's what spiders do anyway you don't need it at all.

Drop a little further down the page and after the closing </head> tag we see:

<body bottomMargin="0" leftMargin="0" topMargin="0" rightMargin="0" onLoad="ShowDate();">

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
That DOCTYPE declaration shouldn't be there.

[designteks]

minst, I thin the real question is Should your psychologist prescribe drugs ???
You may need them if you keep visiting this thread

Lisa,

Your site is mymovingquote.com ???
If yes then do steps 2,3,4 that minstrel suggested

2. get links from other sites
look at linkmetro.com - where other sites will link exchange with you, target real estate and realtors sites

look at goarticles.com - where you can write articles for other sites to use as content, every time they use an article it adds a link to your site

3. submit to relevant niche directories
again i would suggest real estate directories

4. join the Coop Ad network here
not an expert in this area but google shows 126,000 pages and you could get a huge benefit from this step

[minstrel]

No, this is the site that sale trafic to your site, so i wander if i should use them they promis 100,000 visitors to my site for $189.99.
Good heavens, no! Don't even think about it. Their "magic" solution is to install popunder ads - that's the last thing anyone should be advising you to do, let alone charging you almost $200 to do it.

[petertdavis]

Good heavens, no! Don't even think about it. Their "magic" solution is to install popunder ads - that's the last thing anyone should be advising you to do, let alone charging you almost $200 to do it.
Heh, you can get the same deal on Ebay for $1.89, and the end results will probably be just about the same, zilch.

[Lisa White]

I am very impress, thank you, I used that company for traffic and I did not know they are using under pop up windows, I called them and told them to stop it immediately, now I know why Yahoo took me of there site, we ware listed very well on Yahoo but we are no where on Yahoo, do you think that's the reason.

Thank you

I am very impress, thank you, I used that company for traffic and I did not know they are using under pop up windows, I called them and told them to stop it immediately, now I know why Yahoo took me of there site, we ware listed very well on Yahoo but we are no where on Yahoo, do you think that's the reason.

minst, I thin the real question is Should your psychologist prescribe drugs ???
You may need them if you keep visiting this thread

Lisa,

Your site is mymovingquote.com ???
If yes then do steps 2,3,4 that minstrel suggested

2. get links from other sites
look at linkmetro.com - where other sites will link exchange with you, target real estate and realtors sites

look at goarticles.com - where you can write articles for other sites to use as content, every time they use an article it adds a link to your site

3. submit to relevant niche directories
again i would suggest real estate directories

4. join the Coop Ad network here
not an expert in this area but google shows 126,000 pages and you could get a huge benefit from this step

how do i join Coop Network

[minstrel]

I really don't know for certain, Lisa, but it wouldn't surprise me. Who knows what that "company" was doing...

As for the coop, go here to set up an acount: http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/.

To read about it or for assistance in setting up the account, see this section of this forum: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

[Lisa White]

Tank you so much for the advise, i did update my page as you told me.

Thank you again i hope it will help a bit.

Thank you

[Dekker]

lol......you do realize it says shits in your name? :) hehe you might be able to make it on one of the funny websites lists like

Penisland.net

[minstrel]

See above, SVZ. I already pointed that out and Lisa indicated that it was not her website - the "shits" website was the one offering to take her money, not the website she is trying to optimize and promote which is http://www.mymovingquote.com .

[Dekker]

Ahhhh oops :) Thanks for the clarification!

[Lisa White]

Minstrel, Thank you so much, You understand Me, my company Name MyMovingQuote.com
Moving Companies Directory (http://www.mymovingquote.com)
I am trying to get high ranking on keyword moving companies right now its on page 4-5 on google i try to get it to rank higher, any advise would be appreciated.
If someone understand Html very well i found some errors on my main page but i don't know how to fix them, maybe its effecting my ranking. MyMovingQuote.com (http://www.mymovingquote.com)
an advise would be appreciated

[minstrel]

This should probably be moved to Site review, Lisa, but here is one quick suggestion:

<title>Moving Companies Directory | Movers Quote | MyMovingQuote.com</title>
You should add some more search terms - change to something like:

<title>Moving Companies Directory - Movers - Moving Services - Quotes | MyMovingQuote.com</title>
Add a couple of others that you can think of (don't overdo it) and if necessary you can dump "MyMovingQuote.com".

The site is looking pretty good. What/where are the errors that you're worried about?

[jim]

I lost some great Yahoo rankings during the coop upheaval and just recently got them back. I read that one person wrote an email. I didn't.

I reduced coop weight from 40,000 to more like 400 pointing at the site and hired some people to do reciprocal links so that more links would be static and relevant. And I kept adding new content. Now I'm back to #1 and adding coop weight slowly. Not for Yahoo, but for the other search engines...

I thought the issue for my site was that I had very few "normal backlinks" - maybe 50 or so (it was an undevloped blog). Then I had thousands from the coop and that made the site #1 for a while (that's when I learned it could be a profitable site). Everything was great for a few months until that day...

The funny things I'm back to #1, but the kind of traffic I used to see is just not there anymore...

The original sites which got tanked.. seem to be tanked permanently in Yahoo. I would just move on to other domains... lately, Yahoo seems to be rewarding sites which use co-op heavily.

[Lisa White]

Hi and Thank you again,

I did some changes to the title i hope i will see some results in few weeks, in regard to Html this what i found when i inspect my site, but i don't know how to fix it.

WARNING: We found the extra closing </FONT> Tag(s) which did not have a corresponding open Tag. Because of this the page may not have been rendered as expected and other errors that may follow may not be correct. This should be corrected

Moving Companies - moving services (http://www.mymovingquote.com)

[Lisa White]

Hi,

What is a COOP and how can i use coop, and how it work.

Thank you for you'r help

[minstrel]

The Ad Network Coop is an ad sharing network - your ads are displayed on a rotating basis on other sites in the Coop and you display text ads or banner ads (up to 5 per page) from other members of the Coop.

More information here: http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/?s=9317

[ferret77]

This last yahoo update, 2 of my sites which I beleived were hurt in yahoo by the coop came back

A little bit lower in the rankings but still back, one I took the coop off, the other I think I mostly decreased the weight pointing at it

[minstrel]

All of which adds support for the suspicion that the presence of the Coop ads was unrelated to the changes in Yahoo rankings...

[Lisa White]

To be in the COOP Pool do I have to put ads on my website

[minstrel]

Yes, you do. And the ads have to appear on all pages of your website. They can appear wherever you like on the pages, however (e.g., text links in the footer is acceptable).

[SportsOutlaw]

Yes, you do. And the ads have to appear on all pages of your website. They can appear wherever you like on the pages, however (e.g., text links in the footer is acceptable).

You can also choose to install them in a specific directory of your site, rather than entire site.

[Jim bob 9 pants]

thanks to the co-op I am 2 out of 180,000,000 results on Yahoo - can't be bad!!

[Web Gazelle]

Yeah, I don't think it is the co-op. I think it is anything that looks like a way of artificially inflating link popularity.

[minstrel]

I think it is anything that looks like a way of artificially inflating link popularity.
...which would suggest again that the the issue is the ratio of longstanding and/or relevant links to "advertising" links.

[bzzubzzu]

what coop made you 2 out of 180,000,000?

[minstrel]

what coop made you 2 out of 180,000,000?
See http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/

[Jim bob 9 pants]

what coop made you 2 out of 180,000,000?

It helped, its not a cure all!!

Jamie

[Solicitors Mortgages]

thanks to the co-op I am 2 out of 180,000,000 results on Yahoo - can't be bad!!

has yahoo actually indexed that many pages yet? ;) nice one JB9P

[Web Gazelle]

I have a number 1 out of 152 000 000 with out using co-op.

[Lisa White]

Hi,

Number 1 on what keyword, and what search engine, I am looking to get number 1 on Moving companies, the best i got page 4 on Google, but now i lost it to page 7, any advise that can help me would be appriciated.

Lisa

Moving Companies (http://www.mymovingquote.com)

[Web Gazelle]

We are talking about Yahoo here so the SE is Yahoo. The keyword is a very high competition keyword that is related to one of the sites in my signature.

[Didoz]

Web Gazelle nice one ;)

[Lisa White]

We are talking about Yahoo here so the SE is Yahoo. The keyword is a very high competition keyword that is related to one of the sites in my signature.


I know you are talking about Yahoo, my question is what Keyword are you talking about (keyword Name)

[minstrel]

Lisa, in your previous post you asked, "Number 1 on what keyword, and what search engine", which is why Web Gazelle replied as he did.

As for which keyword, that isn't going to be useful information for anyone else since it will be specific to the page that ranks for that keyword. If you were able to rank #1 for the keyword "forum", it wouldn't help you at all, would it, since your site has nothing to do with that keyword?

[SiCK]

I have #2 on Yahoo for "machine embroidery designs" and #1 on yahoo for "scooters" thanx to link vault. MSN use to be ranked in the top 10 for machine embroidery designs, no more though. I've changed my keywords to "embroidery designs" and "goped" as round two to see if I can get in there.

[Web Gazelle]

Lisa, in your previous post you asked, "Number 1 on what keyword, and what search engine", which is why Web Gazelle replied as he did.

As for which keyword, that isn't going to be useful information for anyone else since it will be specific to the page that ranks for that keyword. If you were able to rank #1 for the keyword "forum", it wouldn't help you at all, would it, since your site has nothing to do with that keyword?
Exactly! So the keyword doesn't matter. MY point is that it is possible to rank high without co-op.

[SportsOutlaw]

I rank fairly high (top 10) for one keyword in yahoo. Some days it is as high as #2, other days it is in the 9-11 range. I have an extremely small amount of coop weight for that keyword. That is the only keyword that I get any decent ranking on with yahoo, and it brings me a small amount of traffic.

with G and MSN, I have high rankings for several keywords that do not see the light of day on yahoo. I have been wondering for quite some time if yahoo does something to filter out coop ads, or if it was something totally unrelated causing this.

[Lisa White]

Any one know a url with COOP on it, i would like to see how it look.

Thank you

[Jim bob 9 pants]

have a look at my sig, go to the bottom of the page and volia