I'm #1 in yahoo

[shirsc2]

i finally made #1 ranking in yahoo for a big keyword. I'm 1 out of 21,600,000. All the work might be paying off. I'm also #7 for another big keyword. Now hopefully google starts to recognize my site and ranks me for these same keywords

[fsmedia]

Google doesn't rank you on anything based on other search engine results. You need to make sure you have a high Pagerank and that you have a good enough high-keyword density.

[aaron_nimocks]

What you need to rank high on Google for specific keywords is anchor text using that keyword placed on your sites and other peoples.

[lorien1973]

Other than basic onsite facts ,the above post is right. KWD plays little or no role in your ranking. Google is a simple factor of inbound links. The more and better ones you have the better you will rank.

[seo-ireland]

I'm #20 for a 636,000,000 result. It is more of a trophy result though, not much traffic from it.

[mubashirnisar]

i m on top 10 place in a common keyword

[Web Gazelle]

I am number 1 for a huge keyword now. Thats #1 out of 152,000,000. WABOOYAH! Plenty of overture ads for this term too. Overture ads all the way through the first 8 pages of results. Insane!

[psx23.com]

I always get listed in google before yahoo.

[pk1971]

If you are no.20 for anything then you might as well be no. 1,000,000 it does not help in traffic, first page or don't bother

[fsmedia]

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,630,000 on Google and I'm ranked #6 for my keyword. It drives a fairly large portion of my traffic.

[Moneyfolk]

You are mostly right on this but I think it also depends on what you are searching for. Sometimes, I'll go till the 5th page if the term doesn't produce enough quality results.

If you are no.20 for anything then you might as well be no. 1,000,000 it does not help in traffic, first page or don't bother

[fsmedia]

You are mostly right on this but I think it also depends on what you are searching for. Sometimes, I'll go till the 5th page if the term doesn't produce enough quality results.

I agree, but it would have to be for a very specific keyword term that I go that far into search results. 9 times out of 10 I will just look on the first page.

[Infiniterb]

I am number 1 for a huge keyword now. Thats #1 out of 152,000,000. WABOOYAH! Plenty of overture ads for this term too. Overture ads all the way through the first 8 pages of results. Insane!

My how we've changed our tune about yahoo... :)

[jfontestad]

they're still tunning this algo. I'm #1 in 27 out of the 32 yahoo sites. (31 international and main) so i'm guessing that either these are updated with the algo (because they show my current cached page) while the main yahoo site has me #3 and the page it has listed for my site is OLD.... so we'll see how things turn out.

[psx23.com]

Thats great.

[alext]

My #6 dropped to #19. For my keyword in the top 10 results there are 2 dictionary definitions (answers.com and m-w.com)...

Edit to add: And those dictionary defs have never been there before.

[psx23.com]

How could it drop so fast?

[temp_12000]

i finally made #1 ranking in yahoo for a big keyword. I'm 1 out of 21,600,000. All the work might be paying off. I'm also #7 for another big keyword. Now hopefully google starts to recognize my site and ranks me for these same keywords

congratulations!

[psx23.com]

Yeah thats awesome.

[Web Gazelle]

Sweet! The same site is #1 out of 47,500,000 for another KW and #1 out of 8,330,000 for a third term. All of which have lots of overture ads. Yahoo! is my best friend! :D

[lorien1973]

Dost Yahoo sucketh still? :P

[Web Gazelle]

Not for this one site. Now if I had many more like that then I would be feelin good.

[KGL]

Congrats on that.

[subigo]

Know what's funny? I rank on page 8 on Google for a certain keyword, (which I wasn't ever trying for) and it still sends one of my sites over 1k a day.

[mobilebay]

Other than basic onsite facts ,the above post is right. KWD plays little or no role in your ranking. Google is a simple factor of inbound links. The more and better ones you have the better you will rank.

Not necessarily true, I have a decent amount of reciprocal relevant links and i still havn't received a ranking, therefore links help if you are already recognised substantially by google and yahoo , i am in yahoo but not google its all about the aging delay, based alledgedly on kws and their competitivness.

[Qtac]

Not necessarily true, I have a decent amount of reciprocal relevant links and i still havn't received a ranking, therefore links help if you are already recognised substantially by google and yahoo , i am in yahoo but not google its all about the aging delay, based alledgedly on kws and their competitivness.

I agree. I am a newbie to SEO, but after optimizing our site for a competitive key word - and some rather obscure ones - we jumped from the 4th page of Google to the 1st and we haven't yet started a links campaign (although we had a reasonable number of backlinks to begin with).

Yahoo on the other hand(!) thats a different story. We initially shot up from the 11th page to the 6th and there we have stayed for 13 weeks. I don't understand how our site can be ranked highly by Google and not Yahoo :(

[itsme]

I personally like Yahoo! and to a certain extent MSN for their fast index inclusion and willingness to spider my sites on a regular basis. :)

I have also recently noticed significant jumps in my Keyword Ranks on Yahoo! for semi competitive terms (up to 6 mil ) and I'm liking it... I just wish more people would start using Yahoo instead of Google.

PS: Congrats to those of you who have #1 of XX,XXX,XXX that is pretty amazing!

[Web Gazelle]

I will say it again. It seems to be all about inbound links with your KWs in the anchor text. That little PR thing is only counted in Google. I have links from places with PR 0 that are getting counted in Yahoo.

[SendBlast]

Shir whats your secret!

[JohnScott]

Yahoo tends to be a lot like the old Google - much easier to optimize for. Keyword density, keywords in the URL (especially domain) tend to count for a lot in Yahoo.

[bigjohn718]

Everyone's right. Don't count on being number one for both. From what i've experienced, when i'm number one in google, i fall in yahoo and vice versa.

[Web Gazelle]

Then the solution is to clone your site and optimise the clone site for Yahoo. :D J.K.

[dracula2005]

i finally made #1 ranking in yahoo for a big keyword. I'm 1 out of 21,600,000. All the work might be paying off. I'm also #7 for another big keyword. Now hopefully google starts to recognize my site and ranks me for these same keywords

you are damn lucky :)

[Web Gazelle]

All you need to do with the new algo is get tons of inbound links with your keywords in the anchor text. ;)

[maldives]

All you need to do with the new algo is get tons of inbound links with your keywords in the anchor text. ;)

simple and cool ;) . Inbound links with the anchor text is the key :)

[EGS]

Sorry if I missed it but what keyword are you #1 for again? ^^;

[aufordboy]

Everyone's right. Don't count on being number one for both. From what i've experienced, when i'm number one in google, i fall in yahoo and vice versa.

I've experienced this as well....however I've very happy keep my top 10 google keywords :)

[Web Gazelle]

Yahoo is going to pot. Don't fret if you can't rank just keep your Google rankings.

[codeteacher]

I'm 36th with the keyword 'ip address', damn, I would love to become #1 ! :) Any tips ?

[Web Gazelle]

Inbound links, lots and lots of em.

[jkomp]

With keyword targetted anchor text

[escante]

How are you people getting these great results? Keep up the good work.

[Web Gazelle]

They are spamming.. J.K. :cool: I think your inbound links carry a ton of weight in Yahoo!

[Cyclops]

I will say it again. It seems to be all about inbound links with your KWs in the anchor text. That little PR thing is only counted in Google. I have links from places with PR 0 that are getting counted in Yahoo.

I have to agree with this, Yahoo is showing 130000 links to my site and I think they all contain the same anchor text.

I wasn't ranking at all in Yahoo but when I upped the COOP weight to 60k pointing to my site with anchor text of three carefully selected words I am suddenly ranking at #1 for those keywords and on the first or second page for about 25 other terms containing a mixture of those keywords. And these are very popular terms, one has over 200million results.

I don't rank anywhere in Google for any of those terms but never have so I'm not worried about upsetting Google.

[Bompa]

If you are no.20 for anything then you might as well be no. 1,000,000 it does not help in traffic, first page or don't bother

Sadly, this is mostly true. In a Penn State study of browser's behavior,
only 20% went on to the second page of results.

I could not find the original study in html, but here it is in pdf...

http://ist.psu.edu/faculty_pages/jjansen/

Click the second one down titled:
"Real life, real users, and real needs: A study and analysis of user queries on the web"



Or, you can read this summary:
http://www.mikes-marketing-tools.com/marketing-tips/search-engine-user-study.html


Bompa

[Jackson_Hu]

i finally made #1 ranking in yahoo for a big keyword. I'm 1 out of 21,600,000. All the work might be paying off. I'm also #7 for another big keyword. Now hopefully google starts to recognize my site and ranks me for these same keywords

Can you kindly tell us how many visitors visit your site everyday ?

[relevance4u]

All you need to do with the new algo is get tons of inbound links with your keywords in the anchor text. ;)

HI WebGazelle,

are you saying that Yahoo put more empasis on IBL now?

do you mean multi-ip IBL or also site-wides?

cheers

[Web Gazelle]

It seems like any and all links work. Site-wides and single links. Just watch who you trade links with and don't do site-wide cross linking.

[execute]

I've had statistics of my website, and google and MSN index me a thousands times per month, while Yahoo indexes me like 20 times per month and only the main page. I dunno i never really did their add URL thing, but when i look at search engine statistics most of my visitors come from Google, and a few come from MSN, 0 from yahoo. It's really quite odd.

I'm ranked #1 or on first page in about 20-40 keywords.
This month i got 400 first-time hits from Google, 20 from MSN.
So i'm really confused as to why Yahoo doesn't rank me at all.

[Cyclops]

This is probably a dumb question but could someone tell me if this is the Yahoo bot that crawls my sites "Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl')"

There is a MSN bot, a Google bot, a Ask Jeeves bot, etc but nothing shows for Yahoo.

[execute]

Slurp! bot is Yahoo's bot. So is Teoma i think.

[Web Gazelle]

I've had statistics of my website, and google and MSN index me a thousands times per month, while Yahoo indexes me like 20 times per month and only the main page. I dunno i never really did their add URL thing, but when i look at search engine statistics most of my visitors come from Google, and a few come from MSN, 0 from yahoo. It's really quite odd.

I'm ranked #1 or on first page in about 20-40 keywords.
This month i got 400 first-time hits from Google, 20 from MSN.
So i'm really confused as to why Yahoo doesn't rank me at all.
How many pages do you show you have indexed in yahoo?

[execute]

none.
Heres what slurp bot indexes EVERY TIME: (my root)
/

Heres what msn and google bot index everytime:
/index.php
/tutorials.htm
/tutorials-1.htm
/tutorials-2.htm
etc etc etc.

[Web Gazelle]

That is kinda messed up. You might inquire to Yahoo to see why they don't index you.

[execute]

This is out of 1332 records. (All of which are MSN and Google):
This is Selecting Slurp! bots only:

/
/articles.htm
/
/codedb.htm
/index.php
/tutorials.htm
/
/index.php
/
/index.php
/
/
/
/
/

And it goes on like that for exactly 29 records. Doesn't crawl anything except a few pages. I submitted my site to Yahoo today, and also to the directory. My website is mainly content based but i do offer a service of web design if needed. But hopefully they won't reject it, and say it is non-commercial. I dont want to pay 299$ :X

[joaquin]

I don't even know what # I am in Yahoo

[Web Gazelle]

I don't even know what # I am in Yahoo
Don't worry about it. Yahoo is worth it. December has brought me only 28 hits for being #1 for a huge search term. A term that would have given me 250 hits from Google.

[execute]

Yah. I dunno what happened I use to always go to yahoo. Now I went there a few days ago... And i just felt like... not going there again rofl. Psychological maybe? :XXX

[noppid]

I'm at position 11 for a huge keyword, 94,000,000 results. This is by attrician, I was not working it. That's pretty cool IMO.

I nailed number one for the words I work with, #1 out of 17,800,000.

Go yahoo!

[Web Gazelle]

What kind of traffic is that bringing you?

[musman]

congratulations for your achivement buddy.

[escante]

How long do you have to wait to get does results?

[Cyclops]

I'm at position 11 for a huge keyword, 94,000,000 results. This is by attrician, I was not working it. That's pretty cool IMO.

I nailed number one for the words I work with, #1 out of 17,800,000.

Go yahoo!

I'm at position 15 for a keyword with 230,000,000 results, and is searched for 24,217 times a day according to Overture.
I'm not working on that keyword either but all the terms I am optimising for include that word. Now if only Google would do the same for me :D

I doubt it converts very well for me but terms based on that keyword where I rank in the top five do as those terms are more specific.

[execute]

It's still so odd... You're index by yahoo and rank well, but no google display. I'm indexed by googel and rank first page in 8,000,000 results, and other keywords, yet i cant get indexed by yahoo. Perhaaps there is some fishy stuff gong on.
Let's find out?
ill make athread about it.

[davcheong]

i finally made #1 ranking in yahoo for a big keyword. I'm 1 out of 21,600,000. All the work might be paying off. I'm also #7 for another big keyword. Now hopefully google starts to recognize my site and ranks me for these same keywords

haiz.... i got #1 too, out of 49,000,000.. what to do, still need pagerank also.

[waystland]

how do you find out what "high keywords " can you use?
thanks

[Web Gazelle]

how do you find out what "high keywords " can you use?
thanks
You can use digital point's keyword suggestion tool. Keep in mind that high competition search terms don't only show lots of results but they will have many sponsored links in adwords or overture. ;)

[DNP]

A no 1 place too for 6.6 million results, but struggling with Google...
www.digitalwildlifephotography.com

And No 4 and 5 place for 15+ million results.
www.digitalnaturepictures.com

[financeman]

i finally made #1 ranking in yahoo for a big keyword. I'm 1 out of 21,600,000. All the work might be paying off. I'm also #7 for another big keyword. Now hopefully google starts to recognize my site and ranks me for these same keywords

hey congratulations to you site ranking

[comp71]

Quick question, for people that get high up in the rankings on the first page, do you notice a pop, sort of like a huge increase in traffic or would you not even know you were on the first page if you didn't look?

[creepah]

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,630,000 on Google and I'm ranked #6 for my keyword. It drives a fairly large portion of my traffic.

Im ranked #5 on google for a good keyword

Results 1 - 10 of about 6,410,000 for myspace games. (0.06 seconds)

But its not bringing that much traffic :(

[Web Gazelle]

Being #1 or #5 out of 5 or 6 million doesn't mean much. Now if your ranked there and the first 5 pages have lots of adwords then that is different.

[phoenixcarpet]

Yes, I made # 3 for a 1434 result search!!!!

[sixty6]

Actually, I disagree with you..Some people like me who want to actually find a website that meets our needs will even go through the first 3 pages before we refine our search...So it is a good achievement if you are even in the top 3 pages for your keyword.

[Pathan]

well done guy.

[Cyclops]

Quick question, for people that get high up in the rankings on the first page, do you notice a pop, sort of like a huge increase in traffic or would you not even know you were on the first page if you didn't look?

From 30 uniques a day .....to 450 overnight for a few keywords that rank on the first page, still growing...... hit 550 yesterday.

I just hope Yahoo leave them their :( .

[azn_romeo_4u]

I'm #1 on yahoo for keyword cursors. But I wanna get number 1 for keyword cursor...who knew...I guess keywords with "s" at the end are more searched.

[geniosity]

It doesn't help me being in the top 3 on MSN for a certain phrase because I still have to wait for people to search for that phrase. But I must say it is a cool feeling.

[Design Agent]

I had 17 out of over 1,350,000,000 (it might still be there) - no real seo attempts (old site, old links) though it was purely trophy, even though in theory its a great term to rank for.

I dont like Yahoo results atm. They struggle to even rank sites for their name and the results still fluctuate alot for me.

[Zinho]

Has anyone noticed a roll back into rankings? I've been on top5 for all the keywords I've set in the coop (with at least 60mln of pages per search) but now I'm seeing the results to be back up.

[Peter_Rosado]

Has anyone noticed a roll back into rankings? I've been on top5 for all the keywords I've set in the coop (with at least 60mln of pages per search) but now I'm seeing the results to be back up.
Yes, I'm seeing that, from #7 to #54, from #54 to #7...yahoo! is dancing, hehe.

[musman]

congrats on your new rank on yahoo.

[zdvolode]

I also congratulate you i wish you the same with g

[Doppy]

Quick question, for people that get high up in the rankings on the first page, do you notice a pop, sort of like a huge increase in traffic or would you not even know you were on the first page if you didn't look?
I'm ranking #10 on Yahoo for a term that allegedly gets over 10,000 searches per day and getting zero traffic out of it. :(

I wish they'd at least throw me a bone here ;)

[guest]

One of my site is on TOP1 position in yahoo and i see no traffic from Yahoo

[Jackson_Hu]

One of my site is on TOP1 position in yahoo and i see no traffic from Yahoo


Can you share with us how many visitors per day ?

[Web Gazelle]

No traffic would equal zero visitors, wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

[regalwilliam]

Hey congratulation! Yahoo giving best result.

[asd]

gratz. you are lucky man :)

[feelyou]

I believe that the mechanism works in goole is different from what it from yahoo
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