Google Ranking Report - Check Google PageRank

[vinyl]

Please check my new Google Ranking Report - PageRank Check (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php) tool and tell me do you like it, and what is most important, if you see any differences in comparation to the "real" Google PR...

Also, interested parties may contact me if they want to cooperate on my project by adding tool for remote-query of Google PR algorythm.

Replies welcome,
Thanks!

[GuyFromChicago]

The results were accurate for all my pages.

I would still prefer to use the tool provided at Digital Point. It saves all my urls and I can get the PR for all of them at one time with 1 click.

[schlottke]

The tool will be nice for a quick reference.. perhaps make a toolbar addition for it or something.

[Will.Spencer]

Digital Point's Keyword Tracking Tool is still #1.

http://www.top25web.com/pagerank.php is #2.

[vinyl]

schottke, thanks for suggestion, too bad i am not familiar with toolbars :d

dont take this as a competition - even i use digital point tools, so there's no need to rank it up, i didnt ask for that... it's your opinion and i respect it. i am mainly interested in how you like it + in data accuracy + in eventual suggestions of to make it even better... more sites per search and database integration where system will remember what each user searched for (so that you can repeat that with one click) can be done easily.

[compar]

I just had a look at the tool. I don't mean to be rude, but why would I type an URL into your tool to check the PR when I can do exactly the same thing in IE and read the PR from the Google toolbar?

With IE I can see the site and move between pages and check a lot of PRs. Why would I bother typing internal pages into your tool one at a time?

Once I have the PR I'm often interested in the number of backlinks to see how the page got the PR. I can't do this with your tool.

To me you are sort of inventing the wheel all over again, but in this case only a very small part of the wheel.

Can you explain what motivated you and where you are going with this tool?

[vinyl]

Well Bob, you are rude... not all people like to check PR from the Google toolbar, like you. If you are not aware of that, there's no need to speak more about it, you won't understand it because everything you said against is just all what I wanted to achieve - no Google Toolbar - if you cannot understand that, at least respect my work a bit more - I am not Google team to make something awesome Mr. Bob will like, it's all myself and my wish to explore developer stuff + to make something creative for people who will appreciate it. But I have nothing against your opinion, you are right, Google toolbar is way much better tool, and you have right to choose functionality you need, although you attitude sucks - It's a bit funny to compare me with Google, isn't it?

[schlottke]

vinyl,

don't take his criticism so hard, he isn't being mean by it, just simply stating the facts. Use his ruthless opinion to shape your tool around it.. Notice how even I said it would be better as a tool bar.

Maybe that should be your next step.. change it to a toolbar, add a search rank, pr, and some other useful item and youll have yourself a winner.

[compar]

not all people like to check PR from the Google toolbar

Why not? And what proof have you got of this?

And why ask for opinions if you are not prepared to accept criticism?

The fact is that your tool offers absolutely no addition value or convenience. In fact anyone using your tool is placing themselves at a disadvantage.

If you just want to experiment in coding then great go for it. But don't present it to a forum as a useful new tool and ask for comments.

[digitalpoint]

Why not? And what proof have you got of this?

Well one reason is it only runs on IE for Windows...

- Shawn

[compar]

Well one reason is it only runs on IE for Windows...

- Shawn

That's a good answer. I hadn't thought of that.

But I don't "use" IE as my main browser either. And I would still load IE to get all the features of the Google toolbar before I would load Vinyl's tool in my Netscape.

[digitalpoint]

Well, I don't even use Windows as my main operating system... so... :)

- Shawn

[vinyl]

I dont take critisism hard - I just take him as rude, because the way he says all those critics is quite unfriendly & I cannot find any constructive thing in it, except to turn my page off, sorry... but I don't expect more from the person who looks like that...

dp, true, that can be pretty strong argument against Google toolbar.

[digitalpoint]

There are of course other things one could do with a tool to automate it... For example the keyword tracker incorporates historical PageRank tracking for a specific URL. That's not possible without a tool to get the data.

- Shawn

[john_loch]

compar,

I find it a very useful tool. I do all my development on macs, and am just waiting for someone to come up with an equally useful binary/toolbar for the mac.

Every time I see a new PR based web app like this, (the proliferation of which has been handy over the past few months with at least five new ones I can think of), I believe that objective is a little closer.. because sooner or later someone's going to recognize the potential of having their toolbar atop mac browsers around the world (I'm speaking conceptually, so lets avoid a debate on TOS, TB loads etc and leave it there) :)

One final observation - I don't wish to sound abrasive but it seems to work for you..

As a coder myself, I expect concise feedback on new tools/apps that I develop, and from time to time, I'll go so far as to ask for feedback in a public forum. Seeking this, I expect criticism to a degree. But I also expect it to be augmented constructively. I don't declare it. I don't assert a set of rules for debate. I don't ask for proof of observations or actions, nor do I make obvious statements regarding the purpose of a thread or forum.

If you're consistently presenting a negative perspective (or asking obvious, contrived questions, be they regarding domain sales or new tools) - I have to ask myself - WHY is this person being so critical ?

Whether the achievements presented here are consistent with your notion of 'a useful new tool' or not doesn't really matter. That encouraging constructive positive debate may lead to an evolved and far more effective tool set does - hence the original request for feedback.

If you have any ideas for a useful new tool, you might consider contributing to (a slightly derailed) thread I started called 'the coolest tool & why'.

[Sorvoja]

It works for me.

[Foxy]

Like the others I only work on Macs

Now here's a controversal statement:

If all those people out there on MSDOS that somehow became Windows 13 years after Macs showed the way weren't so pig.......

Just kidding

However a toolbar for Safari or Firefox in that order of preference would be great.

PS I noticed on your site a way of putting it on our sites - have you more info?

[menneke]

Why not? And what proof have you got of this?

And why ask for opinions if you are not prepared to accept criticism?

The fact is that your tool offers absolutely no addition value or convenience. In fact anyone using your tool is placing themselves at a disadvantage.

If you just want to experiment in coding then great go for it. But don't present it to a forum as a useful new tool and ask for comments.

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I'm a Mac OS X user. I know, I know, you thought I was extinct. Well, I'm very much alive, thank you, and I appreciate having a tool to check my PR in Google without having to abandon my platform of choice.

menneke

[Foxy]

menneke

welcome and enjoy

you don't know this but God himself is on a MacOSX

I'm on a MacOSX and quite a few others are to - it takes time but people do eventually learn!! Ha! :D

[compar]

It just never occurred to me that MacOSX users were so impoverished that a single purpose tool like Vinyl's would appear like manna from heaven to them.

Shawn's Track Backlink Tool gives you PR and quite a bit more. Why wouldn't you use it rather than a one purpose tool that required you to type in the name of the URL every time you want to check.

[vinyl]

foxy: contact me via email - support [at] freelance-help.com and we can setup remote query form on your site together... i just hope you have minimum PHP knowledge.

compar: my tool isn't ment to be copy of DP or any other tool, neither in functionality neither in supported stuff... it is ment to be ONLY PR checker for small quantities of URLs (so that lazy people don't compain, ofcourse :) - only addition i might do soon is to allow multiple URL's per search, i have not enough time to shut you down & make all your wishes come true as this is complety unprofitable project and more like a quick fun than serious SE tool - refer to the topic name, my signature or anything i mentioned - did i say backlinks tool? pages in url tool? chart tool? NO. if you want to compare it with something, be fair and compare it with similar purpose tool (PURE SIMPLE PAGERANK CHECK) as other people did. DP's tool is quite usefull, it has better functionality and more options but that isn't the target i am going to, although i easily could, regarding my coding knowledge. i don't take DP as competitor tool, so please don't make atmosphere like that - i am developer, and you are probably way out of my league, so don't judge someone's work you are not completly aware off. i didnt ask for any comparation with DP or Google Toolbar because I think those tools cannot be compared like you maliciosly do - it's simple - as you and me, they are in a different leagues and aren't ment to be compared. I don't know what gives you right to do that? I didnt ask for it, but nevermind, critisism is ok while there is right motivation. You want to help me build better tool? I doubt that. Maybe to tell people they have better tools than mine is? I don't neglect that, it's so easy to conclude, It's just unfair to write false sentences where you accuse me that "i am presenting usefull tool", althoigh I never said anything even similar, neither usefull, neither presented my tool as "making of a wheel", like you said. I really don't want you to ruin my thread with stupid competitive or functionality comparation - as i said, please understant that i am not targeting that kind of tools. People like different types of funcionality, I am sure somebody will prefer writing an URL instead of loging to account and seeing different stats, regarding PR check which is obviously one pointeless piece of information for you, if it isn't followed with bunch of SE things... but who cares, you found tool you need, maybe somebody will find tool he needs in my rank checker equals everybody happy. People have right to choose and it's gay to insult people if their choice doesn't meets yours. Who are you to tell people what is the right functionality, value or convenience? If you cannot support me in my efforts to make my small PR Check tool better, or to help me test it to see if results are accurate, please leave my thread. I am sorry, but I really don't want your pointeless comparations or any hidden insults in here - if you don't respect my work, respect this thread. Is that so hard? You said you don't like my tool, you said you reasons and ok, that's it. Is there anything you want to say your comments on before you leave? Want me to make Search Engine that will search thru posts on DP, and saying that that isn't enough and that you want both DP and DevShed forums searched, otherwise it has no value? Is that possitive criticism? I think no, correct me if I am wrong, but preferably, take all this as retoric questions with no need to answer on - I'd be happy if I never see you ugly avatar in the posts below, but I know that won't happen :)

[compar]

Please check my new Google Ranking Report - PageRank Check (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php) tool and tell me do you like it, and what is most important, if you see any differences in comparation to the "real" Google PR...
Replies welcome,
Thanks!
Vinyl, here is your original question. You said specifically "tell me if you like it". You even asked this before you asked about accuracy.

Now I tested it and the accuracy was fine. But I don't like the tool. It has already been done, and done much better regardless of what operating system anyone is using.

So don't tell me I didn't answer your question. And in case you missed it the first time I don't like it.

[relaxzoolander]

vinyl:

thanks for providing another option that will report pagerank (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php).
the google toolbar...being the spyware that it is...is not my first choice to use to find pagerank (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php).
thanks for giving us all an alternative pagerank tool (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php).

:)

[digitalpoint]

Hehehe....

[john_loch]

vinyl:

thanks for providing another option that will report pagerank (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php).
the google toolbar...being the spyware that it is...is not my first choice to use to find pagerank (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php).
thanks for giving us all an alternative pagerank tool (http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php).

:)

Yeah - ditto :)

[vinyl]

comapar, who said you didn't answer me? just reffer to this part - "You said you don't like my tool, you said you reasons and ok, that's it." <- now goodbye :mad: my grandpa could sit in the chair like you and complain about everything, disliking it... as i said, you don't like it, good! seems you dont have intension to help me make it better, but nevermind, just leave my thread as i don't want you in here. it's one thing to say that you dont like it, but comparing it with uncomaparable, making some kind of competition atmosphere, insulting my work and people who like my tool is something completly different, so please be polite and fly away!

relaxzoolander: thanks for the kw's :) not bad avatar, again, but the circle thing is better ;)

[qualion]

As to running a PR check from the MacOS X desktop -- that may not even be that hard. If the PR-calculator-script is something that could be written in javascript (the all-powerfull kind of javascript that's in Mozilla, including the ability to pull in info from the big ol' internet), it wouldn't be too hard to write a Widget for Konfabulator (www.konfabulator.com -- if you haven't checked it out already, do it now. Yes, now. You'll love it). I've done a widget before, it's not that difficult. And they can be made to look damn good, too =]

If anyone is interested in giving it a shot: I'd be willing to participate. However, since I'm a Very Busy Person, it's not going to happen overnight =]

[Foxy]

Blow me down - where did this one come from? and I didn't know it existed!!

Good call qualion - I'm having fun already - Cool tool

Let me have a look at the workings etc and then perhaps we can design that PR thing - vinyls is a great tool but it might be an easier option on the desktop.

:)

[qualion]

Blow me down - where did this one come from? and I didn't know it existed!!

Let me have a look at the workings etc and then perhaps we can design that PR thing - vinyls is a great tool but it might be an easier option on the desktop.


Konfabulator has been out for quite a while now -- there's a ton of widgets available, make sure to check the gallery!

As to making a PR tool widget, there are two options here:
- Code the PR calculator into Javascript and encorporate it in a Widget
- Make a special server-side version that takes an URI as parameter, and spits out just the corresponding PR

Both versions, however, require the user to get a Google API key -- you can't predict how many people will use the widget and how often, so you could quickly run out of your daily quota of 1000 queries. If the user has his/her own key, you don't have that problem.

Personally, I think the Javascript version is nicer: less bandwith involved (even though the request and response can be quite small: URI length + 2 digits + HTTP headers) and such. OTOH, I could imagine that someone who has written a PR calculator isn't too happy to just start handing out the code. So I think this is going to be implemented with a server-side companion (banners are "not done" in widgets, but it would be possible to include a link to the site of the person who "sacrifices" bandwidth for the widget).

Other features I was thinking of:
- Make it possible to do either a simple "enter URI, get PR back" kind of setup, or "gimme a list of URIs, get PR back", possibly with history and all, a bit like the digitalpoint.com checker. It's probably best to have 2 separate widgets for that, since it's quite a difference in both code and layout. A PR-check and PR-check Lite, so to speak.
- Why not include inbound links, outbound links and whatever statistical info the Google-folks are willing to share?
- It has to be shiny, widgets are all about eye-candy. =]

Oh, and for those that think "nice, but I'm not investing time in something that'll only run on Macs": a Windoze version is in the making (http://www2.konfabulator.com/journal/index.php?start=66&show=1), and there really isn't a reason why it wouldn't be portable to Linux too. Basically, Konfabulator is an XML parser, Javascript engine and display engine rolled into one package. I have no hands-on experience in XUL / XAML, but I suppose this would be something similar.

Boy, that was a long one. Does my enthousiasm show? =]

[john_loch]

Yup, it's a nice piece of work. But the real issue is the checksum calc that allows you to retrieve the profile from G. Get that, and you're on your way.

[Foxy]

Mmmm

I think I'll play a bit more!!

But it sounds fun :D

[pcarlow]

I would like a tool that allows me to display a page which contains the PR for every page on my site at once. Best case scenerio would be a spider that follows every internal link. However, it would probably be easier to design a tool where I just plug in all the urls at once and it spits out a page with the PR for every page I submitted.

This way I could keep one file with ever url from my site and check PR on every page all at once. That would be very useful. Can you do that? :D

[digitalpoint]

Go to the tools menu up top in the navigation bar, and go to View PageRank By Keywords. A query of: site:www.yourdomain.com should do it.

- Shawn

[vinyl]

small change has been made... now supporting multiple sites per search... ;)

[t2dman]

Interesting looking tool. Few of the general public know what Google PR is, so it could be interesting to have on my website, and give you some nice PR in the process.

Fascinating - vbulletin ...forum.php?f=6 type strings don't show PR on my toolbar, but your tool shows PR. So your tool (like DP's) better than Googles toolbar for such things???

[davert]

Yup, I'd say Bob's being darned rude.
There are people who don't use IE.
There are people who don't use Windows.
There are people who don't want to load a toolbar for this one function.

[real]

http ://www. americasbest.com/apartments.htm has pr 70, but it is not your fault. Another site showed 70 as well. Maybe it is true :D

[shahbaz419]

http://www.freelance-help.com/google-ranking-report/page-rank.php
page not found???