I got kicked out of google adsense

[david_sakh]

(for invalid clicks) :o

I made them aware of the following:

Many of my peers (friends and enemies) know I'm making ad-revenue from the site.

I have advertised on local forums and around the localized area of my university.

I have NEVER asked anyone to click on my ads, and if I did myself, which I don't recall, it must have been an accident.

I forgot to tell them the following:

I have posted links to my site on university specific sites

I have added my page to the favorites list of the entire computer lab.

But I haven't violated the TOS....why are they killing my account?

[hurricane_sh]

Did they give you a warning before they killed your account? I think it's the worst thing of Adsense - you can be kicked out without doing anything wrong, they should improve it.

[digitalpoint]

Did you ask them for clarification?

[david_sakh]

no warning at all - i just get an account disabled message....

I e-mailed them last night, but I still haven't recieved a response. Their original message was cookie-cutter bearaucrat BS, so i tried to appeal to their rational human side when asking for clarification....

One thing - I earned double digit figures this month, which is crazy for a site with <10,000 total page impressions, but most of the money was from certain days when a few clicks generated >$10. They must have been clicks on pages with more expensive keywords, not the ones on the frontpage that were for popcap and freeze and other nonsense that couldn't logically pay much.

Some of my ads were for grills, makeovers, and lawyers, of all things....I hope my CPM didn't make them angry :confused:

[schlottke]

Well I wish you luck - I've yet to hear of a reversal in the past 6 months though. :(

[david_sakh]

damn -so they can just rip people off any time they feel like it? I hope if they are going to withhold my money they will refund the advertisers as well. :angry:

[xml]

I hope if they are going to withhold my money they will refund the advertisers as well

I agree this should be the course of action Google SHOULD take. Its theft if Google are taking your money for invalid clicks, and not reimbursing the advertisers.

I don't mind Google being quiet about things like PR, Algo changes etc, I could care less. But when they fail to properly explain after disabling an AdSense account it is TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER.

[TopSpin]

It definitely makes me wary of wanting to do anything to promote my pages with AdSense adverts - which I THOUGHT was the whole point of AdSense... to offer topic related ads in places other than the main Google site.

[NewComputer]

Well hold on here, we are lucky enough to be part of their network and make an income off their product. David, from what I have heard, there is always two sides to every story. Now, I know we will not hear Google's side on this specific situation, but they must have had their reasons. I would check your logs for IP addresses that seem to be appearing alot. I posted a thread about log analyzers that could do things like telling you when someone clicked on an ad, but I have not received a proper response. A log analyzer that could do that would allow you to quickly see who is doing what an when.

On a side note, I too have never heard of anyone being allowed back in inside of 9 months. I hope you get to the bottom of it.

[david_sakh]

so if they aren't going to give me my money back, will they at least let me start with a clean slate if I take measures to de-localisze exposure? Because I don't have an insane CTR, it's rather low actually, it's just I know that most of my impressions are probably coming from within a 5-sq mile radius. Most of the IPs I've seen are *i think* from res-halls. (like in my guestbook i see "clemson resnet blah blah blah*

also, i have a full admin CP with analog stats and stuff, maybe I shoudl explore all my options there....

[schlottke]

If I were you, I would not just let it slip through your fingers. I have a very regional site that generated several thoudand dollars over the course of a week- all from this specific location (and further outstate) and it redflagged their system. If you truely are not doing anything wrong, they will make it right. They can tell one way or the other- think about newspaper sites- they get 80% of their audience from their area- google doesnt ban them.

[hey]

I think the reason you got kicked out is maybe people from the computer lab clicked it and that would be one single IP (i'm guessing their a lan). If not a LAN they could suspect someone using multiple computers to cheat at the lab . If you didn't cheat that stinks :-(

[fryman]

When I was a total newbie and was using adsense on my site for the first time, I clicked on the ads a few times. I got an email from Google saying that they knew I was clicking on my ads and I should stop doing it.

Of course, I felt like an a*s, and never did it again, so they DO warn people, unless they see that the clicks are so fraudulent that they decide it is better to kill the account without warning.

[NewComputer]

so if they aren't going to give me my money back, will they at least let me start with a clean slate if I take measures to de-localisze exposure? Because I don't have an insane CTR, it's rather low actually, it's just I know that most of my impressions are probably coming from within a 5-sq mile radius. Most of the IPs I've seen are *i think* from res-halls. (like in my guestbook i see "clemson resnet blah blah blah*

also, i have a full admin CP with analog stats and stuff, maybe I shoudl explore all my options there....

What do you mean by money back? Did you fork over money to become part of AdSense?

[melfan]

It is dangerous to advertise or set the homegapes of a computer lab using the same IP. If most of users on that network clicks your adsense it will be log as one IP and cause the red flag to raise. I know this should not be the case specially to regions that internet cafe is commonly available but google have no choice it is almost impossible to determine a valid click from fraud one from that areas. So for them to protect their advertisers they may gamble by losing some of their publishers than lose control of it.

[qll]

It is dangerous to advertise or set the homegapes of a computer lab using the same IP. If most of users on that network clicks your adsense it will be log as one IP and cause the red flag to raise. I know this should not be the case specially to regions that internet cafe is commonly available but google have no choice it is almost impossible to determine a valid click from fraud one from that areas. So for them to protect their advertisers they may gamble by losing some of their publishers than lose control of it.

I am going to ask adsense about it, as I am planing something similar. That is why I say AM is a much better way to make money. Sooner or later the profit in Adsense will be dropped to AM level. As if you look at both pub and adv. AS and AM are just the middle men. Ideally, if the percentage cut is the same, profit is the same. AS allows the average sites got some money, well only the best can win AM war. Adwords opens doors to average sites, so there are more revenue streams in. AM has a much higher entrace fee.

[melfan]

actually im doing similar local advertisement for my regional websites. I provide free rental software for internet cafe and in return owners will let me displays my ads in idle and active mode. i already google ask about this but they did not give definite answer. it not a big deal to me since i get my 90% profit from membership fee.

[david_sakh]

ARARGH! The entire UNIVERSITY is on a network! Would THAT explain it?

[schlottke]

Yes David - if your clicks are coming from the university, and youve logged in on university computers it may trigger it..

[boogle]

My advise and personal experience, dont even log into your account from uni! If you read any of my posts you will see i had a similar problem, the chances of adsense re-instating you are 0.001%.

If you want another account you will need to leave it for atleast another week. Try signing up on a different computer. If they turn you down you will have to try again with a different name ie a releative who doesnt mind cashing the cheque and giving you the money. I believe google only watches for NAMES and IPs when re-signing up as i have managed to get my site back with adsense just by changing the two even after google basically said p**s off you aint coming back in.

[xml]

Well hold on here, we are lucky enough to be part of their network and make an income off their product. David, from what I have heard, there is always two sides to every story. Now, I know we will not hear Google's side on this specific situation, but they must have had their reasons. I would check your logs for IP addresses that seem to be appearing alot. I posted a thread about log analyzers that could do things like telling you when someone clicked on an ad, but I have not received a proper response. A log analyzer that could do that would allow you to quickly see who is doing what an when.

On a side note, I too have never heard of anyone being allowed back in inside of 9 months. I hope you get to the bottom of it.

You are too greatful to Google. They ONLY do it to earn money for themselves. Why are they not more grateful to us? We're doing them the favour.

[david_sakh]

well, they didn't respond to my last 3 letters today. I wonder if the dark lords are actually giving them consideration. :P

I've already set up ads with adhearus, allfeeds, and clicksor. (although I've long-since removed crappy allfeeds from my site). Do you think fighting for adsense is worth it, even if I DO get my account back, if I could just use adhearus + clicksor and not have to worry about this bull?

[fryman]

For every buck you got with adsence, you will get 10 cents with the other companies... so, if you were getting $100 with adsence, you will be lucky if you end up getting 10 bucks with the "competition".

Adsence still rules the scene...

[schlottke]

I don't know what to tell ya - Adsense is the best program, by far.

[david_sakh]

god this sucks. I haven't gotten a reponse in two days. I wonder if they just expect me to shove off.

this is so stupid. It could be as stupid as one of my friends/enemies trying to help or hurt me without my knowledge. Google's policy is ridiculous. Just ban the offending IPs and discredit the clicks from those IPs. How hard is that to do? :rolleyes:

[fryman]

Google's policy is not ridiculous, it is made to protect advertisers. The only stupid thing here was this
"I have posted links to my site on university specific sites
I have added my page to the favorites list of the entire computer lab."

So, the ads are getting loads of clicks from the same IP, isn't that enough to raise some red flags??. I could just start clicking like mad on the ads on my site, and then tell Google "oh, don't worry, It is just my buddies from the computer lab, not me".

[schlottke]

Well tha isnt the case necessarily fryman. If the page loads, and the people there click them without being told, he should get paid.

If I ran a university website, I'd have adsense on the pages generating profit for whatever area of the college needed it.

[fryman]

Sure, but, as I said, I could just click on my ads and say that it wasn't me, it was my buddy Phil from computer lab.

[schlottke]

I get your point. I do give him the benefit of the doubt though, since it has happened before, and he was straight forward with why it happened.

[fryman]

I'm sure david_sakh is telling the truth, but Google sees it in another way... they won't waste their time investigating if the claim is true or not, they just cancel the account in order to protect the advertisers interests.
You will be amazed of how many scams are born every single minute trying to cheat Google's adsense and adwords program... I posted one of them here: http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68219

I've seen many idiots posting requests to join some group and click on each others ads, seen jobs posted at Scriptlance for bots that can click on ads, all kind of crap trying to cheat Google, they can't waste their time investigating if an account should get cancelled or not, if it raises enough red flags, you will get kicked out.


So, this can be a lesson for all of us: don't create a website at School, or at work, (or at least don't put up the adsense code there), do it at home, where your IP can be logged and you won't have any problem with that.

[david_sakh]

whoopteedo.... :(

I don't get why the just don't ban "fraudulent" Ips from generating revenue and reimbursing advertisers instantly for clicks made from those Ips. Hell, that could be automated.

[NewComputer]

I'm sure david_sakh is telling the truth, but Google sees it in another way... they won't waste their time investigating if the claim is true or not, they just cancel the account in order to protect the advertisers interests.
You will be amazed of how many scams are born every single minute trying to cheat Google's adsense and adwords program... I posted one of them here: http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68219

I've seen many idiots posting requests to join some group and click on each others ads, seen jobs posted at Scriptlance for bots that can click on ads, all kind of crap trying to cheat Google, they can't waste their time investigating if an account should get cancelled or not, if it raises enough red flags, you will get kicked out.


So, this can be a lesson for all of us: don't create a website at School, or at work, (or at least don't put up the adsense code there), do it at home, where your IP can be logged and you won't have any problem with that.

Here is the thing, it is in G's best interest to have legimate user advertising their information. Now, we don't know the technology that they use to ban or not, but I assume it is the best in the world. In David Sakh's case, he may have a point, but I know this much, I will never post my company domain as the homepage for any university. People need to learn from this kind of thing. I don't believe DS or not believe him, what I do believe is that Google provides the best revenue generating alternative out there and we need to do our absolut best to ensure that everything we are doing with their AdSense is on the up and up.

We cannot complain about what G is doing because they offer the service to us for free and in turn it generates revenue if used properly. If Google banned me, I would do my best to find out why, see if it was a mistake or something that can be resolved and then reapply in the timeframe required by them. I would also report here their reason so that if I did make a mistake, others would not do the same.

[david_sakh]

you can re-apply?

[NewComputer]

you can re-apply?

Sure, why not?

[david_sakh]

well that's good. Maybe this is just a one-time loss. I took care of the computer lab/library issue, so things might work out.

[NewComputer]

well that's good. Maybe this is just a one-time loss. I took care of the computer lab/library issue, so things might work out.

Don't tell us that, tell Google ;)

Seriously, I would let them know that you have fixed what you believed the problem was.

[david_sakh]

i did, and begged for reactivation. I got a CTRL+C+V response. Whatever, ill update you guys so those in my situation will know what is best to do (or not do).

My letters to google haven't been especially mean or kind but seem mostly frustrated, especially at their beaucratic responses. It makes me wonder if there's a human on the other line or some insane adaptive algorithm of doom. :)

[Ajeet]

i did, and begged for reactivation. I got a CTRL+C+V response. Whatever, ill update you guys so those in my situation will know what is best to do (or not do).

My letters to google haven't been especially mean or kind but seem mostly frustrated, especially at their beaucratic responses. It makes me wonder if there's a human on the other line or some insane adaptive algorithm of doom. :)

I am surprised that this question is occuring to me only now, but is there no other way to get back into AdSense once kicked out?

[NewComputer]

David,

In any material that I sent to the SE's that was in regards to me being in 'trouble' I would be extremely nice. If you were on the other end and you received this angry email, how and when you respond if you were the 'DON'

[Infiniterb]

David,

In any material that I sent to the SE's that was in regards to me being in 'trouble' I would be extremely nice. If you were on the other end and you received this angry email, how and when you respond if you were the 'DON'

Depends on if it was the day of my daughters wedding.

[NewComputer]

nice..... very well done ;)

[tomecki]

I think, that is a problem with pay per click programs. They will be always people that would like to cheat eg. G**gle. I have read that in India are a company that gives 200$/month to people who would click at theirs google Ads.
In other hand there are really people that they didn't do anythig wrong and they are "suspect". Do you thought that everybody could kill somebody google Adsense account just clicking at his Google Ad everyday for 10 min?

[Profi]

Hello,

AdSense is a cool program, but it has a few „underwater stones“ which one should know not to be disqualified! So if you will get a message from Google “It has come to our attention that invalid clicks have been generated on the ads on your web pages. We have therefore disabled your Google AdSense account.” etc then you should not be surprised, because most likely it was due to the invalid clicks.

Here are a few insider tips:
1. Never click on your Google advertisements with the public IP address that you use to log-on into your Google account (they register it and thus may disable your account!) (if you do not know how to obtain your public IP address go to www.askprofi.com);
2. If someone wants to ruin your Google Adsense, he may do a few hundred of clicks within one hour on your Google advertisements and you are lost! There is no simple defence against this at the moment. AdSonar is more advanced in this case because they allow you providing a list of IP addresses which can be blocked (not counted as valid clicks). AdSense from Google is weak here.
3. Pay attention to the following: the rate (number of clicks * 100 / impressions) should not be more than 10 %. If > 10 %, it may become suspicion for Google.
4. Your web site users are not interested in Google advertisements? There is a simple method on how to change it (www.askprofi.com).

Best Regards,
Profi

Free software development support and more …
www.askprofi.com

[david_sakh]

I have since been forgiven and reinstated. Thanks for all of your support during this wierd time.

[yfs1]

I guess spammers are good for one thing. They revived an old thread and because of it we got an update. Its almost worth it :)

[fryman]

Stupid spammers...

[Swebbie]

3. Pay attention to the following: the rate (number of clicks * 100 / impressions) should not be more than 10 %. If > 10 %, it may become suspicion for Google.


I don't believe this is the case at all, but obviously I don't know for sure. I have several sites running AdSense ads (probably a total of about 1500 pages). Some of the pages get low CTR (1-2%), but one site routinely gets 17%-24% CTR every day. My traffic comes almost entirely from organic search engine results (about 95%) and links from related sites. In over 6 months, I've yet to have any problems with Google. It doesn't make any sense that they'd put up red flags based on an arbitrary CTR number. It does make sense that they would red flag an abrupt increase, however. I'm sure they have algos that dig into patterns like that and investigate thoroughly. But a % that trips some kind of alert? I doubt it.

- John

[david_sakh]

I guess the key here is not to try anything underhanded. I screwed around and added my page to favorites lists and homepages across the university. If I hadn't done that, I wouldn't have been in trouble in the first place.

I guess the key here is to let the mechanisms of the system work themselves and use honest design and promotion methods if you want to increase your profit.

[silenced]

forget about adsense and find a new sponsor for your site
clikinng ads from same ip likes laboraty computer class or cyber cafe is very suspective behaviour google is very sensitive for these type of clikings

[pentium9]

forget about adsense and find a new sponsor for your site
clikinng ads from same ip likes laboraty computer class or cyber cafe is very suspective behaviour google is very sensitive for these type of clikings

I partly don't agree with your point of view! bcos in some countries like China cyber cafe is still very popular! 60% of them access to internet from cyber cafe! and if Google suspects all those clicks they probably close their own business! bcos more than half of the publishers will be suspected to have invalid clicks!

Another point is laboraty computers! how many of you access to internet in your school? during school days I spend more than half a day in school to surfing internet simply because of my school internet speed is excellent! I myself clicked the google ads in this forum several times when the ads is about "increase your ads revenue" or " increase your CTR". So times with some of you I think Mr. Admin in this forum will have a big trouble with Google!

[nriweb]

i m sure google must have a sane procedure in place by now ... and only when u raise a red flag multiple times they take such drastic action...

multiple clicks from the same ip will surely be caught and will not be accounted as a valid click but if a single set of multiple clicks cause an account to be disabled i m sure a lot more sites would have seen this problem... ofcourse some of the webmasters are lucky to get away and some are unlucky ...

the single biggest mistake would be to login from ur school/office account into ur adsense and check the stats .. avoid that as that would definitely raise a big red flag ...

one small mistake that may be caused unknowingly would be to click on the adsense ad on this forum when ur share of ads are displayed here ... :)

my two cents ..

[Swebbie]

I continually test various AdSense colors and placements to see if I can creep up my CTR. One thing I've noticed is that you must be very careful if you use a borderless block (250 X 250 square or one of the large rectangular options) within your main content text. I have twice in the past month inadvertently clicked on an AdSense ad when trying to place my cursor near some text that was close by. I immediately wrote Google to alert them to my mistake. Not sure that matters to them, but I did get a response that was neither reassuring nor alarming. It seemed canned, but they did thank me for informing on myself. LOL :rolleyes:

-John

[david_sakh]

I continually test various AdSense colors and placements to see if I can creep up my CTR. One thing I've noticed is that you must be very careful if you use a borderless block (250 X 250 square or one of the large rectangular options) within your main content text. I have twice in the past month inadvertently clicked on an AdSense ad when trying to place my cursor near some text that was close by. I immediately wrote Google to alert them to my mistake. Not sure that matters to them, but I did get a response that was neither reassuring nor alarming. It seemed canned, but they did thank me for informing on myself. LOL :rolleyes:

-John

Everything from google seems canned. I suppose they have a large number of whiny, but understandably concerned clients. You know, if they just disregarded publisher clicks instead of taking action, it would save so much headache and anxiety.

[pentium9]

Okie! the worst thing happens to me today! they closed my account!

I don't know how to express my feeling now! and may be some of you think "he must do something wrong"! I swear with god I did not click my own banners even one! I read and fully understood the terms and conditions! I know what is the consequence I may have if I click my own banners! but ..... they closed my account without any explaination except for fraudulent clicks!

I contacted them already and explained the situation! I dont know how many percent that they will review my situation! because I'm just a very small fish in ocean! hic hic!

Oh! God! ...! unbeleivable!

[joeychgo]

this is the kind of thing that scares the hell out of me. Maybe thats why tier being so aggressive - so scare people?

[Swebbie]

I suspect Google is being this harsh for one major (and good) reason - they literally make about 95% of their income from AdWords clients. The LAST thing they need is even a rumor springing up that people can scam by fraudulently clicking AdSense ads and get away with it. AdWords isn't alone...they have major competition. If I ran Google, I too would aggressively whack publishers that their algos showed were producing fraudulent clicks.

Now, does that mean some innocent folks might end up dropped by Google? Yep, read these forums and you'll see it happens a frightening number of times (assuming we're getting honest stories). It sucks and I'll be screaming too if they gig me for something I never did. But, I have to say, as a businessman, that I totally get why they're so harsh. It's called survival!

-John

[Homer]

Well put...I agree with Swebbie as a business man you must understand this. I actually run AdSense and Adwords and understand both sides of the fence. I recommend, to get a good grasp of Adsense, to try AdWords first.

[EdenView]

I recommend, to get a good grasp of Adsense, to try AdWords first.

Amen!!!

Also, it will give you a bigger heart for the other side of that monthly paycheck ;-)

[uca]

I signed up, was accepted and then declined because I provided my permanent US address but not a soc security number.
So I know little about the affiliation.
Still, I'm a bit afraid, couldn't they just not count clicks from the same IP?
I'm going to sign up again, it's not that I am going to rely on large amount of money, still, I would really hate getting kicked out because someone in my area enjoys clicking on the ads. Either for fun or to get me kicked out! :eek:

[pentium9]

Okie! this is the last piece I wrote to Google! you might think this is crap! but this is what I am really thinking!

====================================

Hello!

Okie I got your point and I know it is worthless to explain anymore! however I want to "discuss" something that I hope you are patient enough to read this.

Just get back to 2 months ago when I first approved by Google. I was so happy when my earning is $ 0.93 for the first day. More than ever I love Google and I answered the survey to help Google improve perfomance, I wrote article about Google Adsense and published it on my site, I refered Google adsens to most of my fellow webmasters .... But what do I have at last? banned from Google! this is the "thanks" Goolge gave me at last!

We both know how Adsense network works! visitors click on ads, we have a certain amount and you have the majority! You protect your Advertisers from being abused, because they pay you. But remember the fact that without pulishers, advertisers are equally wothless. Simply because of with only your search engine you can do nothing to gennerate profit.

One item that many Google Adsense acounts are worry about is the posibility they will be banned by Google with innocent fraudulent clicks. You are not able to protect us from being abused! for instance somebody spends an hour and continuous click my ads or use robot! and I'm lost! what will you react? "close account - no explaination - sorry - byebye"

We are playing the game together, you are the ruler! unfortunately we have a bad ruler! if you make mistake we only can contact you and "beg" for solutions. If we make mistake! no warning! no sympathy whatever the reason maybe! we are kicked out of the game! you care your advertisers much more than you do with your publishers! but you forget the fact that publishes are also your partners, days by days help you to generate profit! I have the feeling that Google is forming a monopoly on Internet!

Hopefully after my case Goolge will take the innocent fraudulent clicks in to serious consideration! otherwise one day many people are disapointed with Google! And Google is only a website, without visitors you would probably shutdown your business.

Wish your company goodluck and with Google Adsense

Sincerely

William, Vu

[Homer]

I have been a AdSense subscriber for 8 months now. My earnings have consistanly increased without any issues from the mighty G. In fact, a few months ago they snail mailed me a little green booklet with tips on how to increase your revenue with AdSense. I employed them, they worked.

Recently, I was sent an email from G (a real person) explaining that some of my tax forms were not completed properly. I was asked to complete them. I am Canadian based and beleived that I required a EIN number. So I applied with the IRS for one. I received a fax from the IRS with my EIN but could not read it and my time expired that Google gave me to obtain this. I receive a phone call from a real person at Google, in fact the same person that was emailing me. I explained to her that I was still waiting for my EIN number. She asked me a couple of questions and suggested that I talk with the Google tax expert to get clarification as I may not require an EIN number. She transferred me directly to him . We talked. He suggested that I did not require the EIN form and directed me to the correct form found in the Google tax wizard. Done

These people are concerned about their publishers and advertisers as I subscribe to both. It is human nature to be envious and sometimes malicious success stories such as Google, Bill Gates, Don Trump. Few of us take the time to give merit where merit is due.

I believe Google has earned there position online. If they can my AdSense account I trust there would be just reason doing so. If there is not just reason I beleive I would have an opportunity to explain myself. If you consider the size of this giant you should also consider how often you here negative feedback about them...rare to never.

No, I am not a G employee, rather a user af many G products.

[david_sakh]

Still, I don't see why it's so hard for them to just disregard fraudulent clicks and negate the fraudulent amount from the adwords client's balance. It's not like it cost google anything (really). I didn't even get a warning. Hell, I would removed all my local site promotions in a heartbeat. But I'm not going over the whole story again. Basically, google let me close down my old account and then make a new one.

[pg20706]

If it hurts G bottomline, they will fix it. David, I think you are very lucky to get your account back. I read on another forum, G usually don't even reply your email once they close your account.

[david_sakh]

If it hurts G bottomline, they will fix it. David, I think you are very lucky to get your account back. I read on another forum, G usually don't even reply your email once they close your account.

I wasn't allowed to retain my earnings. I had to start over.

But if THAT is as good as it gets, I'm grateful,but I'm still not happy being the exception that proves the rule. Google should show all of her publishers a little more slack.

[pg20706]

I wasn't allowed to retain my earnings. I had to start over.

But if THAT is as good as it gets, I'm grateful,but I'm still not happy being the exception that proves the rule. Google should show all of her publishers a little more slack.

Think G is your girlfriend. She wanted to break up with you. You begged her. She came back. It's beautiful, isn't it? JMHO.

:)

[wendydettmer]

Hey all,

I'm new to this forum and to adsense, and found this thread interesting. I currently run a small yoga info site that has adsense on it. I do not work at a university, and I set up the adsense account from my home computer. But, my husband works for a university and I can do a link with a few of their websites on campus. Should I bother to do this? I'm now worried that if too many clicks come from the campus network they may get cranky.

Thanks

Wendy

[david_sakh]

if they were honest u backlniks, I wouldn't worry about it. The trick here is that I hompagenized the entire computer lab and spammed the favorites list. I was asking for trouble.

It was EXTREMELY stupid and no doubt NOT lucrative in hindsight but I did it, I regret it, and I'm glad google didn't disallow me from cancelling and resubmitting my account.

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

Thats it? Give us the rest of the story.

Are you still making money.or the same amount?

Any more bad google emails?


It sucks how all your accumulated earnings for the 2 months were refunded.

[david_sakh]

no. no. and...thanks, but it was partly my fault.

[EdenView]

You are the first person I know of that the Goog has allowed back in, Congrats! ;-)

[GeorgeB.]

Man I gotta bookmark this thread so I can point it out to anyone saying "no one is ever let back in Google"

Congrats and what not.

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

. werd!

[david_sakh]

um they didn't exactly reactivate my account, I did loose my money. :o

but I'm grateful. I try not to be the least bit deceptive these days.

[fine]

Still, I don't see why it's so hard for them to just disregard fraudulent clicks and negate the fraudulent amount from the adwords client's balance. It's not like it cost google anything (really). I didn't even get a warning. Hell, I would removed all my local site promotions in a heartbeat. But I'm not going over the whole story again. Basically, google let me close down my old account and then make a new one.


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[boldm28]

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[wwwbug]

They kick you out because of a lot of clicks from the localized area of your university!

[amerrj]

Hi,

I Got banned for no reason also, They don't give any money back.

I am sending them emails not because I want to rejoin adsense but because I want them to know that They have to behave like humans they give no reason, and no warning when the shutdown accounts, hoping that contin. emails from banned users can make them think of changing their attitude!

[yfs1]

You signed the TOS so you are bound by it.

The fact that they hold you to that does not mean they "don't behave like humans"

How many times did you accidentally click on your own ads (be honest now)

[amerrj]

not once because I have read their TOS word by word and I know the penalty on clicking

[devin]

so why did you get banned?

[amerrj]

In the appeal that I have sent them, I told them that I have found out from the IP ad. that kept on clicking that its from the same city i am in , my website isn't popular so I directly asked my friends who know about adsense and one of them told me that he clicked thinking that its helping me!!!. I aslo told them that I haven't encouraged him.

This doesn't seem real , but i am not going to lie.!

[yfs1]

The truth always comes out :cool:

[amerrj]

What are you trying to say??

[yfs1]

That you were rightfully suspended.

Whcih means your statement of:
I Got banned for no reason also
was false from the start

and also calling them "inhumane" for suspending you, was way off base.

If you want to cry about evil, big bad Google and how horrible, etc they are, at least be honest from the start.

[amerrj]

I am not the one who did it.

I didn't say that they are evil. they should be more practicle and understand that Its not me and that I HAVN'T ENCOURAGED ANYONE

its up to you to believe it or not!

have a nice day!

[yfs1]

Why should they understand that right from the beggining? They suspended your account now its up to you to explain the situation.

They don't read minds...They obviously compared ips and saw something that looked like you were clicking on your own ads and suspended you.

With so much click fraud, you can't expect them to give a warning every time someone clicks their own ads. If they did, scammers would just click their own ads until they were warned and then and only then, stop.

[Homer]

I am not the one who did it.

I didn't say that they are evil. they should be more practicle and understand that Its not me and that I HAVN'T ENCOURAGED ANYONE

its up to you to believe it or not!

have a nice day!
Sorry to hear about your demise, amerrj.

You sound like an honest person, plead your case with Google maybe they will cut you some slack :confused:. I doubt it though. Chalk it up for learning and move on apply to Yahoo.

On the other hand it's good to note Google's fraud detection is working properly!

[tangsem]

Is it possible to get back the account from google after it's banned? Has google done it before?

[yfs1]

Is it possible to get back the account from google after it's banned? Has google done it before?
Absolutely, if you write them they will do a human review and if you did nothing wrong (you may need to provide more info like logs) they will reinstate the account along with any legitimate money earned.

[singaporebeauty]

Is it possible to get back the account from google after it's banned? Has google done it before?

yes it is possible. Google is not as Devilish as most people think. I think their smart pricing and sandbox are more evil.

[devin]

i'd just go with the sandbox. that's evil.

[DaMa]

Hm, another question but related to this matter. Do you guys think there is some kind of limit for invalid clicks until Google takes action?

And for those who where banned, its not so easy to get banned from Adsense. I made some major mistakes when i first signed up for Adsense in Jan 2005 and still have my account. I learned alot about stuff that can get you kicked out and tried to follow every term EXACTLY.

[tangsem]

Absolutely, if you write them they will do a human review and if you did nothing wrong (you may need to provide more info like logs) they will reinstate the account along with any legitimate money earned.

My problem is that, I signed up adsense at Jun 2005, and at that i don't know the TOS so clicked on my own ads, within several days I was banned. Then, in July, I signed up another adsense account with different information and things went on. Everything was fine until yesterday. And during this 7 months time, I have got two checks from google. But yesterday, when it's time for Dec's payment, google banned my account stating it's in relationship with an old account. I thought everything was OK, and for my second account, I was very cautious, and did adsense very well, never having any violation. However, for the first account, I do admit that it's my error due to my ignorance. Now I am banned again, this time quite big loss for me. I have contacted google. Do you guys think if i would be able to get my account back. Is there any possilibity? From my heart, I really want it back, it has become an important part of my life during the past 7 months time. I felt really uncomfortable today.

Thanks for your idea or advice!

[Brons]

No, you wont get it back because you were banned before. You're only allowed one account.

Any info on clicks from the same area? I've told some friends about my site and didn't even mention adsense, but when they click do I get banned for living near them?

[eduardomaio]

No because they aren't visiting your website and clicking on the ads everyday...

Don't mention adsense and don't ask them to click there...

[yfs1]

I really doubt it...The first time you could have claimed ignorance with an a apology and been reinstated...Instead you knowingly broke the TOS in which case they will probably view you as a bad publisher and I doubt they will trust you a third time.

You are better to go with YPN or Chitika


My problem is that, I signed up adsense at Jun 2005, and at that i don't know the TOS so clicked on my own ads, within several days I was banned. Then, in July, I signed up another adsense account with different information and things went on. Everything was fine until yesterday. And during this 7 months time, I have got two checks from google. But yesterday, when it's time for Dec's payment, google banned my account stating it's in relationship with an old account. I thought everything was OK, and for my second account, I was very cautious, and did adsense very well, never having any violation. However, for the first account, I do admit that it's my error due to my ignorance. Now I am banned again, this time quite big loss for me. I have contacted google. Do you guys think if i would be able to get my account back. Is there any possilibity? From my heart, I really want it back, it has become an important part of my life during the past 7 months time. I felt really uncomfortable today.

Thanks for your idea or advice!

[northpointaiki]

Google's policies consider the webmaster's sites, not individual sites, as an adsense account. If you actually had different legal entities in place - i.e., one site was owned by you, another by a corporation you set up, another by an LLC you set up, yeah, well, without being an attorney, maybe you'd have something - because legally you and the other entities are separate individuals.

But:

-If google established that you own all the sites, whether you provided different information for them;
-That you were banned from the first site for transgressing the TOS;, and
-That you placed and earned adsense money from your second site, and different account,

I would guess you are out of options. Especially if they sniff that you tried to snow them by cloaking your identity with the different information under the second account.

Sorry.

[rewlie]

Hello there ..

I'm new in adsense, so I will need to ask you all the expert :)

My question would be :-

I setup my website on my local server, which is I open the port and let the world see, I dont buy any hosting package. I'm the cybercafe owner, so I setup the website to act as a portal, that's divide into several section, I can say it contains almost all what my customers need, from every aspect. Now, I want to setup every browsers on my PC in my cybercafe to open up my page 1st, once my customers open the browsers. They will 1st see my page, and be able to know us more, be able to use AdSearch just from my page, and the advertiser becomes more vulnerable as they will see the advertisement from the AdSense code just as they start browsing.

My customers and the server, are on the same network, same IP. We serve them through NAT. I wonder .. if my customers click the Adsense, or perform a search on the Adsearch, will Google consider it as an invalid clicks since it comes from the same IP? I know their T&C as well, but when it comes from the same IP, I'm just afraid if Google would say the one who do it is me, not my customers, so I need the answers, hope u guys can help.

Note that in my town, there are 10 cybercafes which has the potential customers and most of ppl here goin to the cybercafe to surf the internet, broadband is still expensive in our country, 2MBps/384kbps package worth 300 bucks per month.

And so I wonder if they should also examined every visit to the advertiser's web based on the cookie from different PC's, not from the IP, what about a large, giant company, which has their all PC's networked ? They will not afford a single broadband for every PC, since there's router and NAT technology.

Thank you.

[lorien1973]

I'd say that violates TOS, personaly.

[rewlie]

Thank you lorien,I would like to hear more cast from other ppl, and also, I have wrote to Google asking bout the situation, I will not proceed with the action until I get their reply, we'll have to wait then.

[devin]

i think this is one of those tough cases. if they do come from the same IP, and there are several clicks, that'll raise a red flag. i'm not sure how google will respond.

[wwm]

Yes u will be breaking the TOS

[v12kid]

I got banned too for supposed invalid clicks. My problem with them is they didnt offer me a chance to explin and all my emails went to a bot that read it and auto responded. They have crappy support and are too cruse in their methods. I use YPN now and have been satisfied.

[sahu]

Thank you lorien,I would like to hear more cast from other ppl, and also, I have wrote to Google asking bout the situation, I will not proceed with the action until I get their reply, we'll have to wait then.

[sahu]

My advise and personal experience, dont even log into your account from uni! If you read any of my posts you will see i had a similar problem, the chances of adsense re-instating you are 0.001%.

If you want another account you will need to leave it for atleast another week. Try signing up on a different computer. If they turn you down you will have to try again with a different name ie a releative who doesnt mind cashing the cheque and giving you the money. I believe google only watches for NAMES and IPs when re-signing up as i have managed to get my site back with adsense just by changing the two even after google basically said p**s off you aint coming back in.

[sahu]

Thank you lorien,I would like to hear more cast from other ppl, and also, I have wrote to Google asking bout the situation, I will not proceed with the action until I get their reply, we'll have to wait then.

[parad0x]

I also got banned and they never give chance to explain at all. Once you get banned, no chance to re-open it.

[Jackson_Hu]

I signed up, was accepted and then declined because I provided my permanent US address but not a soc security number.
So I know little about the affiliation.
Still, I'm a bit afraid, couldn't they just not count clicks from the same IP?
I'm going to sign up again, it's not that I am going to rely on large amount of money, still, I would really hate getting kicked out because someone in my area enjoys clicking on the ads. Either for fun or to get me kicked out! :eek:


The count not only the IP but also the session of the screen

[rewlie]

The count not only the IP but also the session of the screen

If that so, then why some others got banned cause they came from the same IP?? Google needs to give more explaination regarding this, otherwise cybercafe owners will never have a single chance to involve in web business.

[amerrj]

I think this will cause a problem, so you better wait for their reply.

[kk22bbme]

i think the reason is...you dont tell the google that you have posted links..

[emulwa]

http://www.mulwaresearch.com/blogs.html

[MidMido]

You Can try other Advertisers Programs like Chikita, Kontera ....etc

[compgen]

nice one right?

[mindway]

but will he able to get account approve for same site...?