MSN link: nice results

[Dominic]

have a look at your links with the tech preview at msn:

http://techpreview.search.msn.com

[NewComputer]

Looks good to me, so why don't they just use it already... :)

[lorien1973]

how close do you think msn and yahoo are going to make their algorithms to google. Obviously, links will play a part in them. I dont believe this was the case before with them was it?

[mopacfan]

Looks interesting to say the least.

[arestia]

i can definatly tell that they are weighting anchor text a lot cause 3 target keywords for one of my clients are in the top 5 results.

-Dan

[Jenny Barclay]

Hey that looks good without anchors
http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=photos+of+houses
No.7 out fo nearly 39 million

[TwisterMc]

not many blog posts of forum posts showing up towards the top. Maybe they are filtering them out? However, some of my sites returned #1 for terms they are not to be found in the top 20 of google with!! All in all.... I like.

[fluke]

bleeding hell i wish they'd use it already: all my keywords are at top spot

why lord why???

the one area M$ Havn't dominated is the one area i want them too - i'm really getting annoyed now

[schlottke]

Because it requires innovation to be the leader in search ;)

[NewComputer]

Here is my guess... They know all of us are optimizers. We are all prolly posting very well for our terms and they are just mucking with us. They are sitting around, drinking Zima and playing Ping Pong. Then they go back and laugh at all the keyword searches we have done for our sites.

haha, jerks...

[john_loch]

It's nice that anchor text plays such a large role for them.
Makes life seem all too easy doesn't it ?

It needs major work if it's going anywhere, and they know it too.

Just my 2 pence worth :)

[Dominic]

We are seeing great results also. Just a thought - our sites are listed in the msn small business directory - and have been submitted to msn via that site.

Anyone not in the directory that is still seeing much better than google results?

[eddie]

I wish they would get on with it I am in the top 3 for many of my keywords.
Thanks Dominic for that link

[jarvi]

I have a site that is about 3 weeks old and is appearing at number 4 out of 119 million. Nice if it stays there. Others sites also appear to be in good positions.

Guess it's kind of silly that we are able to optimise for a SE that technically doesn't exist yet. Is it that we are all that good we can predict how SEs of the future will work? Somehow I think I have to agree with John on this one and accept they have a lot of work to do.

[SEbasic]

I just spent the last hour or so playing with that link: command...

Really interesting stuff.

It looks like it is listing the results in order of importance (Domain index pages first, then 1 level down, then 2)etc etc...

Also, if you take the url that is produced... then add &first=1&count=100at the end of it, the number of backlinks jums up a hell of a lot...

Really nice results though. Makes life a LOT easier IMHO.

I can't wait 'till longhorn comes out ;)

[GuyFromChicago]

Anyone not in the directory that is still seeing much better than google results?

Yes. I'm in the top 3 for every keyword I'm after for sites that are not listed in the MSN directory.

[digitalpoint]

I (personally) like the MSN techpreview, because I'm #1 for virtually everything I can think of that I would want to be.

Unfortunately that probably means it's not doing a good job and relevancy and is easily manipulated.

When it comes down to it, the more that SEOs "like" a particular search engine's results, the easier it is to manipulate and less relevant it actually is. We love MSN's new search engine, we all like Yahoo and everyone thinks Google is "broken". With Google being the hardest to manipulate. :)

[chachi]

I wish the thing would load for me so I could see all of my #1 rankings. :)

[NewComputer]

It is now down for what I am assuming is either another update of their database or the preparation for the big release.

[dazzlindonna]

Unfortunately that probably means it's not doing a good job and relevancy and is easily manipulated.

That may be very true. However, I'm hoping I at least get a good month or two out of it live and as is, before they decide to redo everything. In most cases, search engines are a bit slow to change. So, if it goes live as is, and they slowly change it, some of us may reap a few rewards before it all goes bust. One can hope... :) (And I don't even have to feel guilty about it, since I didn't do anything beyond normal optimization. Hey, if MSN wants to give me a bunch of #1's for that, even for a little while, I'll take it - guilt-free). ;)

[schlottke]

I was thinking the same thing Shawn. I like the results too much for them to be quality... I thought the search for "seo" was pretty weird too.

[TwisterMc]

I wish every engine had different rules, completely. MSN beta makes some people look good, Google makes others. That's how it should be in my book. What is the point of different search engines if you get the same results?

[NewComputer]

The results are probably how we 'feel' they should be, then they will drop us all and put up the non-optimized but no more relevant sites that are there now.

[Fishing Forum]

Will it ever roll out - would be nice as a keyword I would love to be listed under on MSN is 13 and raising :D

[hulkster]

Ditto other people's comments about how I wish Microsoft would put this into production now - www.komar.org ranks very well for a handful of terms I just tried ... and yea, the "link:" command is kinda interesting to play around with - definately a different "cut" than Google, and I saw some entries in there that were "just" a few weeks old ... so at least they are being semi-recent with updates.

[smindsrt]

My medical site has #3 and #4 position for very competitive KW's

I love it, roll this puppy out NOW. :D

[SEbasic]

That may be very true. However, I'm hoping I at least get a good month or two out of it live and as is, before they decide to redo everything. In most cases, search engines are a bit slow to change. So, if it goes live as is, and they slowly change it, some of us may reap a few rewards before it all goes bust.It doesn't matter when they roll it out...

It won't be big until longhorn...

When that is released, then we will start to see some serious traffic from it...

And I am looking forward to that :D

[TwisterMc]

Not till longhorn? That's forever away. Not that I care since I'm on a Mac but i'd still like the engine out sooner than that.

[lowrider14044]

Just looked at it for the first time. I'm not sure I like it?? I'm doing worse there then in Google. And that's a hard thing to do. :0 And for one of my terms it's returning over 10,000,000 results where Google only returns 514,000. I like their links though. They show 512 vs Googles 55. The current MSN search only shows 23 links though. :-(

[xml]

I too love these results. :D

I do think the results are actually good now, on terms of relevance. Even for keywords I don't optimize for -- it returns results that seem as decent as Googles.

You have to give Microsoft a pat of the back for the speed of development on this...

Its true it most likely won't be a major contender to G until the release of Longhorn.

[Extranet Guy]

wow....do you think that MSN has finally figured out how to give the user the results they'd like to see......is that what they call "perceptual mapping"?

we're #1 for everything also.....way better than other places. let's enjoy it if it actually stays like this and for as long as it lasts....

[Dominic]

No, search engines use hubs as starting points to launch their spiders (gotta start somewhere) I'd say MSN just has Digital Point in their start list.

[melaniejk]

I really like the results.
I'm number 7 out of 255 Million results for a main keyword.
And, the results are great. It includes exactly the sites I'd put if I was the editor of this keyword. All the authority sites listed first plus mine.
:)