Yahoo installed a sandbox!?

freeman

Nov 4th 2005, 2:26 am

My new sites are fully indexed but none of them are raking in the serps. I heard rumors that yahoo installed a "sandbox". Is that true?

a3196

Nov 4th 2005, 3:08 am

I've never heard of yahoo's sandbox...

My new sites are doing great on yahoo while I'm having hardtime with google...

I guess it's just the matter of keywords....

boohlick

Nov 4th 2005, 4:22 am

im doing good in G! and MSN... but Yahoo,I dont get good results with them.
I think yahoo doesnt like me... huhuhu

heapseo

Nov 4th 2005, 4:22 am

I've never heard of yahoo's sandbox...
I guess it's just the matter of keywords....

Absolutely, less competitive keywords on new sites will do well in Y and MSN where as competitive keywords on new sites don't tend to do well on anything at first. All about hard work and patience :D

freeman

Nov 4th 2005, 6:54 am

too competetive kws cant be the reason, cuz I dont even rank by searching full title of the site which competition is like 50,000

Web Gazelle

Nov 4th 2005, 9:59 am

There is no yahoo sandbox that I have seen. You just need to keep getting links and don't go overboard on KW density.

mytechlab

Nov 4th 2005, 11:37 am

well... it only took me 2 days for my site to be listing in yahoo after i submit my url.. well for google, i had submit a site early october and until now it still never show on google search :=(

ferret77

Nov 4th 2005, 12:35 pm

yahoo is slow

several times now I have actually thought I forgot how to optimize, because it took so long for yahoo to rank

freeman

Nov 4th 2005, 2:32 pm

now my site is showing up by searching full title so there is not sandbox :)
but the update they announced on nov.1 failed, yahoo still shows my two weeks old cached version of my site... something went wrong

mdvaldosta

Nov 4th 2005, 2:47 pm

Im pretty sure theirs some sort of new site penalty. I can't rank on Yahoo for squat on any of my new sites, same for G. But MSN rapes.

Mia

Nov 4th 2005, 3:44 pm

For me, Yahoo installed a quick sand box. Any site associated with certain parameters (will not say what) seems to have disappeared and stayed out of their index.

I've completely given up on them entirely. Never really say any traffic/revenue that was worth anything anyway.

freeman

Nov 4th 2005, 4:07 pm

jlawrence

Nov 4th 2005, 4:14 pm

I find Yahoo is a strange SE that rarely makes any sense.
I've got 2 sites that were started at the same time, similar (ish) keywords in terms of competitiveness, same sort of SEO done. One site started ranking in Yahoo about 14 days after going live, the other site took nearly 3 months before I could find it anywhere in Yahoo. Once you get a site into Y then it doesn't seem too difficult to get decent rankings.

Mia

Nov 4th 2005, 11:03 pm

Yahoo deranked my sites, then calls me up daily trying to pimp their advertising network. They tell me for as little as 10 cents a click I can get my sites back in their index. Bunk... Nothing like letting a telco run a business. Yahoo, SBC, then SBC Yahoo, now SBC/ATT so what's next? ATT Yahoo. Screw it. I'm taking my search needs elsewhere.

markhutch

Nov 4th 2005, 11:08 pm

Yahoo is slow but well worth the wait. I think their quality of customer is better than Google, but I'm sure others will disagree.

freeman

Nov 5th 2005, 12:35 am

Yahoo is slow but well worth the wait. I think their quality of customer is better than Google, but I'm sure others will disagree.

I agree about quality of traffic. Yahoo's traffic is much better

Julia-IT-Inventors

Nov 6th 2005, 8:57 am

a web site launched in early October is doing very well in MSN, got PR 4 in Google (with only up to 5 backlinks) and still can't be found in Yahoo even being indexed.

TMAC

Nov 6th 2005, 9:27 am

No yahoo sandbox I have ever hard of. Yahoo is just slow and rather erratic indexing sites.

Mia

Nov 6th 2005, 10:05 am

No yahoo sandbox I have ever hard of. Yahoo is just slow and rather erratic indexing sites.

They are not erratic in de-indexing sites though :)

ferret77

Nov 6th 2005, 10:08 am

yeah they do that very efficiently

TMAC

Nov 6th 2005, 10:32 am

They are not erratic in de-indexing sites though :)LOL true! True! :D

clasione

Nov 6th 2005, 12:25 pm

I';ve been having lots of problems with Yahoo lately..... Seems like ever since there PPC program went full fledged their recking the index....

Ian

Nov 6th 2005, 1:02 pm

Yahoo doesn't have a sandbox that I'm aware of. They'll grab your front page and then take forever to display your content pages, and your rankings may fluctuate up and down frequently for no reason. Aside from those factors however, there is no sandbox that I know of.

One big factor that seems to make a big difference is not just your on-page optimization, but your anchor text links coming in.

Ian

Web Gazelle

Nov 7th 2005, 10:22 am

a web site launched in early October is doing very well in MSN, got PR 4 in Google (with only up to 5 backlinks) and still can't be found in Yahoo even being indexed.
If you still have only 5 backlinks then that could be the reason. Yahoo seems to favor inbound links with keywords in the anchor text and low kw density.