Presidential Debates, who won the debate?

[anthonycea]

Are you guys watching the Presidential debates tomorrow? September 30th, 2004

Can you all watch and vote in the poll on who you think won the debate and give your comments on why you think they won?

This will be fun and feel free to comment as the debate is taking place.

Only vote on this one debate in this thread so we can judge who won this first debate.

Please do not vote until the debate takes place or is started, if you do not watch the debate please do not vote, is that fair?

DEAL :D DEAL :D

[NewComputer]

oops, this Canadian voted for Kerry without seeing the debate. Sorry AC, I thought it was a "who do you want to win".

I will watch and post if I change my mind.

[anthonycea]

You can't change your vote NC, only Shawn could remove it for you.

I have been telling you to slow down and read and consider before you post, now you will start to do that :)

[lorien1973]

I thought it was tomorrow LOL Oh well. Mythbusters was pretty interesting tonight.

[NewComputer]

You can't change your vote NC, only Shawn could remove it for you.

I have been telling you to slow down and read and consider before you post, now you will start to do that :)

Haha, bugger off.... I will most likely stand behind my vote.

[anthonycea]

ITS ON RIGHT NOW, TUNE IN THE DEBATES!!!!!! :) :mad: :D

[anthonycea]

Well NC, you were right, Kerry did win the debate, Bush was un-nerved and really did not look Presidential.

I think Kerry looked a LOT more in control and did a much better job.

How about the World court issue, Bush did not want to sign it because they would arrest half his family and friends :D

[NewComputer]

Here is the thing, Kerry has never been President. He has not had to deal with any of the things that Bush has. Bush can't attack Kerry on his past policies etc.. only the other way around. I thought they both did really well. Everyone knew that Bush was going to have to be on the defensive and he did well against a guy who has been a .... wait for it.... MASTER DEBATER, his entire life.

Now, I believe that the general US public will not take into consideration that one guy has never had to deal with anything Bush has, so I believe they will look at it like you did AC. That is neither right or wrong, just my opinion. In all honesty, if I were to head to the polls today as an American, I would probably vote for Kerry based on what I saw today. Either Kerry or I would void my vote.
Good luck to you my brothers and sisters to the south. Your decision has a massive affect on our world, please make the right one, what ever that is....

[anthonycea]

Just cracked a beer and got the Jimi Hendrix live turned up HIGH!

America welcome to a new day, John Kerry blew Bush away, we have a chance now, we have someone who will win in a LandSlide against the Dick Nixon/Cheeny Mafia.

HA HA HA HA, give me another beer and turn the Hendrix up higher!!!!!!! :D

JOHN KERRY ROCKS, DICK CHEENY _________s, he would not even show up tonight, he declined to show up to be interviewed.

What a joke :rolleyes:

[debunked]

Just cracked a beer and got the Jimi Hendrix live turned up HIGH!

America welcome to a new day, John Kerry blew Bush away, we have a chance now, we have someone who will win in a LandSlide against the Dick Nixon/Cheeny Mafia.

HA HA HA HA, give me another beer and turn the Hendrix up higher!!!!!!! :D

JOHN KERRY ROCKS, DICK CHEENY _________s, he would not even show up tonight, he declined to show up to be interviewed.

What a joke :rolleyes:
You must have drank too much already..
I will admit that Kerry did a great job at the debate, he is a master debator. But Bush was himself and as usual civil, not as refined, but also more willing to do what is right and not shoot himself to take leave like kerry did in Nam. (and then make up how all the US troops were doing what Kerry had done - torture, rape, etc...)

[Cricket]

I read a topic earlier where you responded to a post with the following comment:

This is a webmaster forum, not a religious war.
I was totally impressed when I read your response in that forum. In fact I thought perhaps I had misjudged you.

I wonder now if you will come to the decision that this is a webmaster forum and not a place to state your personal political convictions as fact?

[anthonycea]

Keep talking Debunked, cus it is the same old line of Republican Bull that Bush has, just a bunch of Nixon crooks that think that Americans are going to support the cowards.

Where did you come up with the shoot yourself desperation BS, boy you Republicans are grasping at straws all of a sudden :rolleyes:

Wait til Fat Dick debates John Edwards if you think the Republicans have a snowball chance in hell, it will melt that night.

Just admit it Debunked, the Bush family is done, they stole their last election man.

Catch on to reality, the American people did tonight....... :D

[anthonycea]

I did not know that a Presidential race was religion Cricket?

Maybe for you Republicans it is, for the rest of the human race it is real life, we have to work for a living, we can not steal money like the windbags from Houston (Houston Oil Men) :rolleyes:

[Cricket]

I wonder now if you will come to the decision that this is a webmaster forum and not a place to state your personal political convictions as fact?


I believe those were my exact words.

[anthonycea]

We do have a national election coming up, would you allow us Americans to discuss this issue on the night of a national debate or did Mrs. Bush send you out tonight?

Maybe we should not discuss something that is important to the future of all of us (life and death matters).

Did you see the 35 plus children that died in Iraq today or would you want us to hide this also?

[anthonycea]

Hey Cricket, please don't take offence, you and Debunked just caught me at the wrong moment.

Well at least you got me mad enough to look at your member profile and look at your website, quite a great design and a great resource also.

Sorry if the subject matter being discussed seems offensive to you, but I have had it with the way things are going the last 4 years in my business because of the recession.

I just feel we need new leadership in this country at this time.

That is all there is to it, nothing personal against you or Debunked, you just seem to be able to get to me for some odd reason :)

[Lavel]

Prior to this debate, I was truly undecided, but after seeing John Kerry speak, I will definitely be voting for him. Kerry set forth real points in support of his position on the war. Conversely, President Bush seemed to continually rely on the assertion that Kerry flip flopped. This seems to have become a trend for Bush. Rather than speak to his own record and things he and his administration have done, he has attempted to garner votes with the use of sound bites. Bush the one who is supposed to be the "master debater" had trouble enunciating words and often had to pause because he has no clear train of thought. Kerry said that yes he voted for the removal of Sadam but did not think Bush would go and Start a War wanted NATO involved. And he also said that when we look at the war separate it from the warriors. This election is very important VOTE or DIE !!

[Lavel]

You must have drank too much already..
I will admit that Kerry did a great job at the debate, he is a master debator. But Bush was himself and as usual civil, not as refined, but also more willing to do what is right and not shoot himself to take leave like kerry did in Nam. (and then make up how all the US troops were doing what Kerry had done - torture, rape, etc...)

Bush was also allegedly a master debator on whose team I don't know. At least Kerry actually served where is Bush's actual papers hidden from the public. Can You answer this question where is Osama Bin Laden?? Why is Haliburton getting rich of of this War. ?? I don't want the common civilian running my nation (Bush had his chance and blew it) our nation is weakened because of him NO one should Trust him he lied. Sadaam did not attack us. Kerry for my future and America's Future.

Election 2004 Vote or DIE
Vote for Bush and (DIE)

[anthonycea]

John Kerry has been in the Federal Government for over 20 years, so I think he knows what he is talking about.

But the better thing is that John Edwards is a fantastic bonus, this guy is THE future.

As far as Bush is concerned, he is just a substitute for dear old DAD, everyone in the Bush administration are the same idiots that screwed up the first Gulf war.

This is nothing more than an extension of the failed Bush administration of the early 90's who let Saddam make a fool out of this country then and even today we are still looking like fools.

The question is this, do we want another 4 years of the Bush Family Administration who we did not elect in the last election?

Why elect them in this one? :mad:

[Lavel]

Exactly the old saying Cheaters never Win. At least Twice they don't. God has his Plan for Florida.

[anthonycea]

So does Dear Old Dad and Brother Jeb :mad:

Even former President Jimmy Carter came out yesterday and said there is no chance for a fair Election in Florida this time around either.

The Bush Foundation will not give up until they buy or steal the very last vote :D

[texasbum]

Kerry was much calmer and more articulate than Bush, the fact that Kerry has not been president (yet) and has not experienced the things that Bush has, is irrelevant. Being the President, Bush should have been more in control of his emotions, his aggravation and anger at Kerry showed.

[anthonycea]

A Texas Bum would have reason to fear Bush, going to a Texas Prison was like going to a Mississippi jail house.

There is only one way out, flat on your back in a wooden box :D

[debunked]

This thread isn't political - it is just conspiracies and trash. Sometimes it just makes me laugh to see what people will believe and follow - like those who believe that Moore made a 'documentary'. I also am very sad that people believe anything or everything they read. Dig deeper and get some facts, or would you RATHER not?

My last 2 cents on this thread.

[anthonycea]

Why don't you give us facts to make us follow what you believe and follow?

We did not follow Bush in the last stolen election, are you mad because the Bush Family Foundation will not be able to steal another election Debunked?

Do Americans have the right to get rid of criminals running the government or should we let the Bush Family Foundation and Halliburton run us all into a depression like this nation has not seen since 1929? To hell with the Houston Oil Men, thats where they are going to send us, to hell in a hand basket as they rob the nation of every asset we have.

Move to Florida, you can help Brother Jeb steal some votes, they need some strong hands to throw those heavy bags of votes in the river like they did last time :)

[texasbum]

A Texas Bum would have reason to fear Bush, going to a Texas Prison was like going to a Mississippi jail house.

There is only one way out, flat on your back in a wooden box :D


Yeah well too bad I am not really that type of Bum and the only thing I fear from that idiot is what kind of shape our country will be in if he is elected for 4 mores years. He wrecked Texas, bancrupted the Texas treasury and is doing the same to the United States.

[compar]

I did not know that a Presidential race was religion Cricket?

Maybe for you Republicans it is, for the rest of the human race it is real life, we have to work for a living, we can not steal money like the windbags from Houston (Houston Oil Men) :rolleyes:
Anthony,

I know this is a slightly stale issue, but you have totally misread and misjudged Cricket. She is on your side on this issue. You have to get over your paranoid streak. Your turning your friends into enemies.

Read her post again, she was talking to Debunked, who I agree is bigoted idiot. I don't even think the Republicans would claim him.

[anthonycea]

Well Bob, everyone has a right to their opinions, but we must look at reality.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3702676.stm

The question is this, are WE willing to fund a failing effort that has ruined the economy of the world and created ill will toward the United States.

Even the EU who controls NATO are NOT happy with us and they are our friends?

We can not go it alone with the war mongers in Israel and keep friends in this world.

This shit must come to an end and we need to join with other nations of the world and try to solve these problems that OUR failed policy and that of the UK has caused.

[debunked]

Anthony,

I know this is a slightly stale issue, but you have totally misread and misjudged Cricket. She is on your side on this issue. You have to get over your paranoid streak. Your turning your friends into enemies.

Read her post again, she was talking to Debunked, who I agree is bigoted idiot. I don't even think the Republicans would claim him.Comprar,

I don't think she was refering to me because of the quote is nothing I ever wrote.

Name calling now? You don't even know me and from just a couple lines of my point of view you come up with "bigoted idiot"? You, being an educated writer, should do better than stooping so low.

I know I wasn't coming back to this thread but I thought I would defend myself from that kind of harrassment that really is baseless.

[anthonycea]

Why not come back Debunked?

You have a right to your opinions just like anyone else in the debate.

Sometimes things get heated, but we are all still friends, you are all right by me and Bob has called me the same, but we are still friends.

Don't let it bother you.

[jebby]

Don't leave Debunked. Theoretically, you can balance out the debate here. What is it about Bush's policies that appeal to you?

[compar]

If that is Charles Manson you are using as an avatar it is a pretty sick joke.

[anthonycea]

No it's my senior photo from high school Bob, still got that extra room in your house and a job for me? :D

If anyone is interested in What former President Carter said about the 2000 election and the upcoming conditions in Florida with Jeb Bush the Presidents Brother running the show, read the following articles in this search.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&p=President+Carter+Florida+Election

Welcome to America?

:eek: :mad:

[david_sakh]

Kerry > Bush during the debate.

"OF COURSE I knew Iraq didn't bomb teh world trade center!"

*looks at Kerry with a childish scowl*

I was rolling.

[burton ost]

undefinedI really did not think it was a debate. Bush fumbled, hemmed & hawded like he was high school student at his first debate assignment. Cheney was much better, he had to be...he tells Bush what to say anyway.

[anthonycea]

Cheney is a pathological liar and everyone knows it, I curse him and Bush every time I pump a dimes worth of gas along with Kissinger and Nixon.

We need to vote these bastards out of office forever, I would not care if another Republican was ever elected to dog catcher again.

I am voting against every Republican across the board :) :D :)