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PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 4:35 pm
Is there any reason why the Google spiders would not be able to index http://www.openpress.com/ ?

Is there a CSS problem with Google spiders?

So far Google has only indexed our front page and nothing else.

I don't get it.

disgust
Sep 25th 2004, 4:37 pm
how old is it?

it's quite common for google to first grab just the index, and return and do a deep crawl later on.

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 4:40 pm
every Vbulletin forum is CSS - and they have no problems.

I have no idea what your problem is..... Maybe you should check here for ways to improve your site: SEO (http://www.ooomooo.com/) I noticed you have no backlinks at all........... is that link generator of yours not working for you now?

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 4:41 pm
The site has been live for 2 months and has new press releases every day.

disgust
Sep 25th 2004, 4:43 pm
there most likely isn't any "problem"

just get more inbound links and wait, and you'll probably be deep crawled

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 4:46 pm
I have about 2000 inbound links.

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 4:48 pm
on link: http://www.openpress.com/ you have 54

on link:http://www.openpress.com/ you have 0

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 4:52 pm
huh? where do you get that from?

Dji-man
Sep 25th 2004, 4:54 pm
all your pages have the same filename: www*openpress*com/index*php. SE don't make the difference between pages that have a parameter (?) as a name. You should give a real filename to your pages so each page would have a seperate url, not only index.php?something&something. It's an old problem. There are threads here that explains how to easily name your pages without screwing up your site structure.

ResaleBroker
Sep 25th 2004, 4:58 pm
I just checked Google and got the same results. It looks like Google hasn't picked up your backlinks yet.

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 4:59 pm
Not true:
http://www.openpress.com/index.php?a=archives

each press release is archived as a .html file

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 5:19 pm
all your pages have the same filename: www*openpress*com/index*php. SE don't make the difference between pages that have a parameter (?) as a name. You should give a real filename to your pages so each page would have a seperate url, not only index.php?something&something. It's an old problem. There are threads here that explains how to easily name your pages without screwing up your site structure.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=3484

If thaT WERE TRUE NONE OF THESE THREADS WOULD BE INDEXED BUT THEY ARE.

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 5:22 pm
huh? where do you get that from?


GOOGLE - THATS WHERE!!!!!!!!!

bobmutch
Sep 25th 2004, 5:27 pm
Dji-man: SE don't make the difference between pages that have a parameter (?) as a name. Yes they do. index.html and index.html? are two differnet files as far as Google is concerned.

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 5:34 pm
What he is trying to say is that
these pages will not be indexed because they all start with index.php?

http://www.openpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=1751

http://www.openpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=1750

http://www.openpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=1747

Which is not true at all.

SEbasic
Sep 25th 2004, 5:37 pm
PRbot - If you don't know how to find out how to find out how many backlinks you have, you clearlty do not have 2000 links...

I'm sorry, but you are not telling the truth. If you are I apologise. Prove me wrong.

I have read the articles relating to you and your past activity and as a result am now VERY sceptical of ANYTHING you say. That is the reason for my blunt post. Again, if I am wrong I apologise.

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 5:43 pm
Maybe google banned you?

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 5:45 pm
The reason I know I have at least 2000 links is because I have registered and posted on 2000 forums PLUS i run a link generator program which creates links to my sites automatically. Google takes a lonk tome to index all those sites and Google never shows the correct amount of backlinks. I sugest YOU learn how to check for back links.

Start by comparing yahoo backlinks and Google backlinks etc.

For example, http://www.mystockforum.com has about 600 back links yet google shows nothing.

SEbasic
Sep 25th 2004, 5:46 pm
Prove it.

Sorry. I don't believe you.

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 5:48 pm
I don't care what you believe. This topic is not about what you believe or not.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=G&q=%22openpress.%2Bcom%22

SEbasic
Sep 25th 2004, 5:56 pm
Very well, you have proved that you have an ability to spam webmaster forums... I apologise for underestimating you.

So... How about this script ;)

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 6:01 pm
Whatever dude.

if you can't be helpful to people just don't post. You are wasting people's time.

SEbasic
Sep 25th 2004, 6:05 pm
Very well. Like I say. I apologise if I made a mistake...

In the long run, we will see.

DarrenC
Sep 25th 2004, 6:28 pm
I think you will realise that Google doesn't tell lies:

link:www.openpress.com (http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=link%3Awww%2Eopenpress%2Ecom)
link: www.openpress.com (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=link%3A+www.openpress.com&btnG=Search&meta=)

Maybe you should try it yourself or take advice from this (http://forums.seochat.com/showthread.php?t=15028) thread? :rolleyes:

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 6:49 pm
Yahoo says http://www.mystockforum.com has about 500 incoming links.

Now see what G says.

That site has been up for about 2 years.

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 7:20 pm
I thought this was about openpress.com?

DarrenC
Sep 25th 2004, 8:09 pm
PRbot.com I'm not been sarcastic but do you know how to look on Google for backlinks?

Both domains show 0 on link:www. and 74 links on link: www.

Google always shows less backlinks than Google, but even so all I can see on Google is backlinks from forum threads .. nothing more. I haven't looked on Yahoo.

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 8:12 pm
Whatever dude.

if you can't be helpful to people just don't post. You are wasting people's time.




Could you please follow your own advice?

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 8:13 pm
Yahoo says http://www.mystockforum.com has about 500 incoming links.

Now see what G says.

That site has been up for about 2 years.


Google says: Your search - link:http://www.mystockforum.com/ - did not match any documents.



Have a nice day

joeychgo
Sep 25th 2004, 8:15 pm
Google always shows less backlinks than Google



How exactly does that work again? :D

Mel
Sep 25th 2004, 11:32 pm
The site http://www.openpress.com/ has 314 pages indexed in Google, so it is not a spidering or indexing problem, IMO.

The only correct use of the Google link:URL operator is without a space behind it, with a space it does not return a list on links but a list of pages that have the term link: and/or the term URL. The Google link:URL command returns at best a partial random list of some of the sites linking to the URL.

link:www.openpress.com returns no results, and using the search @www.openpress.com returns 2,320 results which contain the text openpress.com but of the ten or so I checked none were actual hyperlinks, even the links from your own design site.

IMO it looks like the problem is that you have not entered links to your site but text representing the URL, which does no good at all.

Get some real links and you should start ranking.

PRBot.Com
Sep 25th 2004, 11:40 pm
There are at least 3000 pages on openpress.com so if they only indexed 314 it sure is not good but I don't see how you determine that they have indexed 314 pages.

Mel
Sep 25th 2004, 11:42 pm
The standard search for the number of pages indexed is
site:URL and in the case of site:www.openpress.com Google returns:
Results 1 - 100 of about 314 from www.openpress.com
and then lists the pages which they have indexed.

PRBot.Com
Sep 26th 2004, 12:04 am
LOL! It is showing the same number of indexed pages on PRBot.Com

Strange.

Mel
Sep 26th 2004, 12:13 am
REad that a little closer I see 341 pages on PRbot not 314

PRBot.Com
Sep 26th 2004, 12:42 am
Oh, mea culpa.

But still, both sites have some 3000 pages. Why would G not index the whole site?

Mel
Sep 26th 2004, 12:51 am
There could be lots of answers to that question, but IMO a better question is, should they index the entire content of every site that is built?

In the days when sites were built by hand there was generally unique or valuable content in each page, but with sites that are built by database, there are conceivably as many pages as there are keyword combinations, but after the first 100 or so pages is there any real value in indexing the same page with different keywords inserted into various places?