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neha_patelx9x
Oct 6th 2005, 11:33 pm
I have very bad experience with phpbb and google...
gettign a decent page rank is extremely difficult and as there is session id and stuff , i think it doesnt index it very well :(
i have no idea how to maximize such a forum with google ?
please help me out :(
Michael
Oct 7th 2005, 12:49 am
http://www.able2know.com/forums/about15132-0-asc-0.html
- Michael
neha_patelx9x
Oct 7th 2005, 10:32 am
http://www.able2know.com/forums/about15132-0-asc-0.html
- Michael
thanks so much Michael, i will ask some tech guy friend of mine to implement it on our forum.. if i will give it a try , everything will just stop working :D
mightyb
Oct 7th 2005, 10:59 am
I just remove the session IDs which takes a minute and then install a google site map mod. In a few weeks time 90% of your whole forum will be spidered.
-edit-
You can also have topic keywords in your urls with another mod.
mdvaldosta
Oct 7th 2005, 11:28 am
yea the main problem is session ID's and thats a 30 second fix.
Zapita
Oct 7th 2005, 1:33 pm
this one works for me
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=236489
dcristo
Oct 9th 2005, 11:32 am
I have very bad experience with phpbb and google...
gettign a decent page rank is extremely difficult and as there is session id and stuff , i think it doesnt index it very well :(
i have no idea how to maximize such a forum with google ?
please help me out :(
Not true.
Google has no problem crawling large phpbb forums, even without mod rewrite. Just make sure you remove the session ID's...
dcristo
Oct 9th 2005, 11:33 am
I just remove the session IDs which takes a minute and then install a google site map mod.
Mind pointing me to this phpbb google sitemap mod?
mightyb
Oct 9th 2005, 11:54 am
I got it here http://www.webmedic.net but they are upgrading at the moment. Try phpbbhacks.com
minstrel
Oct 9th 2005, 10:52 pm
This is categorized as Beta only but looks promising (I haven't yet installed it) - note that it apparently doesn't handle subdomains:
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1639895
http://www.streetrod3.com/sitemap_mod.zip
( http://forums.streetrod3.com/sitemap2.phps )
## MOD Title: Google Sitemap Generator
## MOD Author: jhaskins < jhaskins@streetrod3.com > (Joe Haskins) http://www.streetrod3.com
## MOD Description: Generates a dynamic listing of all topics in Google's sitemap xml format
## MOD Version:0.5.0
##
## Installation Level: (Easy)
## Installation Time: 2-3 Minutes
## Files To Edit: admin_board.php, language/lang_english/lang_admin.php, templates/subSilver/admin/board_config_body.tpl
## Included Files: sitemap.php, templates/subSilver/sitemap_body.tpl
##############################################################
## For Security Purposes, Please Check: http://www.phpbb.com/mods/ for the
## latest version of this MOD. Downloading this MOD from other sites could cause malicious code
## to enter into your phpBB Forum. As such, phpBB will not offer support for MOD's not offered
## in our MOD-Database, located at: http://www.phpbb.com/mods/
##############################################################
## Author Notes:
##
## As of version 0.5, everything is configured in the admin panel in the "Sitemap Settings" section of the "General Configuration page.
##
## Gzip compression is controlled by your board config. If you enabled it for the board, it's enabled for this.
##
## The forums to include in the sitemap are selected automatically based on permissions.
## To be included, forums must have the "Read" permission set to "ALL".
minstrel
Oct 9th 2005, 11:08 pm
There's another one here:
http://www.phpbbstyles.com/viewtopic.php?p=38305#38305
Zapita
Oct 13th 2005, 10:15 am
if i already have many pages crawled with mod-rewrite, would affect somehow if i also use the google sitemap?
aeiouy
Oct 13th 2005, 10:49 am
I use this one here:
http://www.gotaxe.com/phpbb-sitemap.php
It is pretty nice because it creates sub-sitemaps that keep google from bogging down with big sitemaps if you have a lot of messages. Every since I changed from another phpbb sitemap mod I have seen a marked improvement in spidering.
Very simple to install too..
if i already have many pages crawled with mod-rewrite, would affect somehow if i also use the google sitemap?
I know the one I listed above allows you to easily specify the suffix and prefix on the urls so it works very well with rewritten urls as well.
robburne
Dec 13th 2005, 9:15 am
Hi,
I have used one of the xml site map creation tools and I have noticed that only 3 pages from my board are indexed:
phpbb2/
phpbb2/faq.php
phpbb2/memberlist.php
I guess that I need to change something, I keep reading conflicting solutions to the problem. Someone above said main problem is session ID's and thats a 30 second fix. How do implement this, excuse my ignorance but it this a phpbb setting or Apache.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Rob.
minstrel
Dec 13th 2005, 9:22 am
Those sitemaps will (often and maybe usually) improve spidering of your site. On their own, they won't affect indexing or ranking.
You don't give a URL for your forum. Have you applied the Able2Know SEO MOD or a similar SEO MOD to your forums? If not, all the sitemaps in the world are probably not going to help you.
robburne
Dec 13th 2005, 11:32 am
No as yet I have not applied the MOD, I'm not sure if I am being dumb or not but I downloaded the zip but could find no instructions........
Is there a general guide to installing MODs as all I can find is two folders named includes and template, or is it a case of simply placing the contents of these two folders into the folders of the same name on my servers?
Sorry for my ignorance.
Rob.
Nokia999
Dec 13th 2005, 11:55 am
thanks so much Michael, i will ask some tech guy friend of mine to implement it on our forum.. if i will give it a try , everything will just stop working :D
I can help you for free ;)
robburne
Dec 13th 2005, 12:13 pm
Ok so how do I proceed?
Rob.
aeiouy
Dec 13th 2005, 6:02 pm
To manually apply mods you need to edit the relevant files and make the changes specified in the modification.
It will tell you "find" a line. You use your editor to search for the appropriate line in the file.
Then it will likely tell you to "replace" it with another line. If that is the case you copy and paste the new line over the line it told you to find.
Sometimes it will tell you to "add after" or "add before". In that case you add the listed line before or after the line your found.
There is a mod installer program that does work with a lot of mods, but I have never used it, so I can't speak to how it works or how well it works.
minstrel
Dec 13th 2005, 7:22 pm
As I recall, the SEO MOD is not EasyMod compatible (that's the installer aeiouy mentioned) so I think you have to do it manually.
In the zip file you downloaded, find a file named "Able2Know.com Search Engine Optimization 2.0.0.txt". That contains detailed instructions on which edits to make in each file.
There is, I believe, a separate instructions file for mod_rewrite (up to version 2 anyway). Don't bother with those changes - they are unnecessary and may cause you complications. All the beneficial changes are in the parts in the main text file identified above.
Note: If you are using a style/theme/template in addition to or instead of subSilver (the default style), then you must make the changes for each of the additional or alternate templates you have installed.
That means all the .tpl files (the .php files are core files common to all templates):
##############################################################
## MOD Title: Able2Know.com Search Engine Optimization 2.0.0
## MOD Author: Craven de Kere (N/A) http://www.Able2Know.com
## MOD Description: The definitive guide to phpBB SEO
## This mod not only removes session IDs for all search engines and adds static URLs
## but it also includes many other changes that will help increase your search engine
## rankings by reducing pagerank drain and greatly improving keyword relevancy.
## Check http://www.able2know.com/forums/about15132.html
## for the latest version or to get help with this MOD
##
## MOD Version: 2.0.0
##
## Installation Level: (Advanced)
## Installation Time: 15 Minutes
## Files To Edit: index.php, sessions.php, viewforum.php, search.php, viewtopic_body.tpl, overall_header.tpl,
## lang_main.php, index_body.tpl
robburne
Dec 20th 2005, 9:46 am
Hi guys,
Further to my request for help in having my phpbb2 board indexed I have made an interesting discovery......
I have noticed that Google has indexed one of my sites that uses the phpbb2 forum but not the other.
The one that is indexed is running version 2.0.16 and the one that isn't is running 2.0.17 - is there any significance in this?
Rob.
minstrel
Dec 20th 2005, 9:55 am
No, I highly doubt it. I have seen phpBB forums still using really old versions that are indexed in Google.
It almost certainly has to do with backlinks to the forums and/or with one having had some SEO and the other being out-of-the-box plain vanilla.
joeychgo
Dec 22nd 2005, 5:52 am
I would agree
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