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H-Man
Sep 7th 2004, 8:04 pm
Isn't just starting a forum about a certain high price keywords just tricking the system?
sarahk
Sep 7th 2004, 9:02 pm
Not if the forum has value!
Which one are you concerned about?
joeychgo
Sep 7th 2004, 9:56 pm
Isn't just starting a forum about a certain high price keywords just tricking the system?
I dont think so -- its like becoming a doctor cause they make alot of money..... as long as you do a good job, why is it bad to go after a high paying job? Why is it bad to make a site that will make alot of money?
Will.Spencer
Sep 7th 2004, 10:50 pm
The Google AdSense Program Polices state:
No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant.
So, technically, yes, this is not allowed.
However, if you read all of the bizarre Google legalese, almost everything is forbidden by one rule or another.
joeychgo
Sep 7th 2004, 10:53 pm
No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant.
The rule makes almost no sense.......... Content relevent to what? If the only value is in showing ads, then wouldnt it be a page of just advertising without content? What about a links page? Isnt such a page jsut for the purpost of showing ads?
my scrambled .02
H-Man
Sep 7th 2004, 11:13 pm
I guess they all have relavence and value, but would I have cared what Melasomothingness is if I did read this forum. Do I care now? No. But I probably made someone $50.
It made my mind start spinning. And now I can't sleep. Is this forum corrupting me? How do you find out the value of keywords?
Not if the forum has value!
Which one are you concerned about?
schlottke
Sep 7th 2004, 11:20 pm
I'm not exactly sure what your concerned about? The Mesothelioma post about which words pay the most?
H-Man
Sep 8th 2004, 12:02 am
I am not concerned. I just know how I would feel if I paid $50 for a click and it was wasted on me.
I guess those advertisers know their business better than me. They would pay for it if it wasn't worth it.
I had no idea people paid that for clicks.
If your not breaking the rules go for it, I say. 10 days into this, I am just trying to get a handle on all the rules.
schlottke
Sep 8th 2004, 1:35 am
To put that (the $50 per click) into perspective for you.
The advertisers who are actually paying that much are almost all (from the 15 or so Ive talked to- 100% of them) have marketing people who specialize in picking specific keywords that they will only pay that much for. It changes quite often, especially with the advent of all of the 'get rich quick' pages for these keywords.
These advertisers (using Mesothelioma as an example) are lawyers, who's job is open litigation against companies who lacked the better judgement of providing masks, air filteration, etc. These cases are worth Millions to the families involved and since their attorney gets 25-35% of that, its worth it for them to advertise.
If the ads are being clicked on by people interested in them, I see no reason not to have a page about it.
My family was actually involved in a case against a company my grandfather worked for (he later died from it actually), so I do have a tie to the disease as well.
dhruv
Sep 14th 2004, 8:49 pm
I shouldn't think it's violating the TOS if the page HAS quality content.
Will.Spencer
Sep 14th 2004, 9:26 pm
I shouldn't think it's violating the TOS if the page HAS quality content.
The Google AdSense Program Policies clearly disagree with you:
No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant.
melfan
Sep 15th 2004, 1:28 am
I guess they all have relavence and value, but would I have cared what Melasomothingness is if I did read this forum. Do I care now? No. But I probably made someone $50.
It made my mind start spinning. And now I can't sleep. Is this forum corrupting me? How do you find out the value of keywords?
Mesothelioma keyword doesnt even worth 0.75 / click. Some high paying adwords does not pay publishers considerably good.
caroline
Sep 19th 2004, 1:01 am
How can anyone tell what the purpose of creating a page was? This is a rule which cannot be enforced.
joeychgo
Sep 19th 2004, 11:22 am
Mesothelioma keyword doesnt even worth 0.75 / click. Some high paying adwords does not pay publishers considerably good.
a bit more then that --- but under $5
dejaone
Sep 19th 2004, 2:48 pm
How can anyone tell what the purpose of creating a page was? This is a rule which cannot be enforced.
Google just wants to discourage that.
sarahk
Sep 19th 2004, 3:01 pm
How can anyone tell what the purpose of creating a page was? This is a rule which cannot be enforced.I can point you to entire websites which have been created for the sole purpose of showing ads. The content is minimal, plagarised and optimised. The whole point it to get you to the page and then to click on one of the ads. Try searching for info on your favourite movie star and you'll find plenty of examples.
Infiniterb
Sep 20th 2004, 11:31 am
A forum requires other people to post and use it. I would imagine that you would eventually have visitors who suffer from this discussing the topic at hand, and in turn making the forum relevant to the adsense campaign and in no way violate their TOS.
The problem comes when you make a site that is just a bunch of ads with the keyword spammed.
joeychgo
Sep 20th 2004, 12:17 pm
IMO - a page designed just for the ads is defined simply - is it a worthwhile page without the ads?
Creating a page designed to draw higher paying ad's isnt a bad thing - its like choosing to be an engeering major because they get paid well. Its basically SEO with a slightly different goal in mind.
As long as you do the work and make a worthwhile page, I have no trouble with making the page with a particular high paying topic in mind.
nriweb
Sep 25th 2004, 2:07 am
right ... if theres a page made mainly for britney spears targetting the keywords and have ads for britneys albums or jewelry ... i dont think the advertisers wud mind if someone clicks on their ads from these pages... the advertisers is getting a prospective customer who is interested in britney spears and his product which hes advertising on the made-up page ...
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