View Full Version : Ad exposure dropped 80%
jontelofot
Sep 6th 2004, 5:31 am
Two weeks ago there was a 4-7% chance of my ad beeing shown on any given page in the network. That number is now down to below 1%!
My total weight has increased about 10% in this time.
Has the total weight of the network really increased by 400% in two weeks?
/Jon
a389951l
Sep 6th 2004, 5:39 am
How does one know what their exposure is in the network?
jontelofot
Sep 6th 2004, 5:51 am
How does one know what their exposure is in the network?
I log the data the script fetches every hour.
digitalpoint
Sep 6th 2004, 8:54 am
The more sites that join the network, the less chance individually your ad will show (simply because there are more ads/sites in the network). But since there are many more sites, you actually get more total impressions. So the more sites that join, the less times (on a single site) your ad shows, but it shows on more sites.
For example, if there were two evenly weighted sites in the network, you would get 50% of the impressions, but only on one other site. If there are 100 evenly weighted sites, you would get 1% of the total, but spread across 100 sites.
So actually, your ad exposure goes up.
rudi
Sep 6th 2004, 10:46 am
Shawn, all this questions only because of lack of stats for everyone of us. Mayby You can add some kind of it to our accounts?
When some site call http://ads.digitalpoint.com/network.php?type=link, You can count it and show to every member of network.
Thank You.
digitalpoint
Sep 6th 2004, 11:04 am
Except people don't necessarily run ads for sites they show ads on.
rudi
Sep 7th 2004, 5:10 am
It will be nice stats, Shawn and very useful.
Everybody will know that his ads was added to some site's rotation and will be there next 100 hours.
Help Desk
Sep 7th 2004, 7:03 am
That would be one HELL of a log file. This would basically monitor all the views of every site in the program.
nadlay
Sep 7th 2004, 8:45 am
Either you trust that the network works, or you don't. You either trust Shawn, or you don't.
Shawn has provided for free the hardware and systems that allows us all to participate in this network.
Don't try and make extra un-necessary work for him.
Let his mind work on new ways to help us instead.
digitalpoint
Sep 7th 2004, 8:56 am
Well, it also should be noted, that it's not that I don't want to give stats, but the main problem is that information/data needed to generate stats is not logged. For example, each site using the ad network has a cache on their end, so the ad server only sees one request for a new ad per hour. Trying to make ad serving realtime would have a few problems:
Tons of data for stats (logging every page view for every site in the ad network).
It slows down the sites in the ad network.
To do it "right" you would need multiple redundant servers in different locations around the world in case there as a network route break or something to the main ad server.
Bandwidth usage on the ad servers would be crazy as well.
So mostly the costs involved aren't really something I'm willing to foot the bill for on a free tool/ad network.
rudi
Sep 7th 2004, 11:12 am
the ad server only sees one request for a new ad per hour.
Shawn, I mean only this type of stats, not all page views. Only existing requests to server. Less than 500 sites = appr. 10000 requests (2 numbers: site id, ad id) per day to log.
Can You show only them on our accounts?
We all will see how many our ads were added to network rotation last day.
Thank You.
kepa
Sep 7th 2004, 3:51 pm
How about just showing how many sites are part of the network upon signing in? That would help a little. I don't want to give you any extra work either (and resources), I know how that is, but that would help I think.
(unless it is displayed somewhere I just missed it, then call me an idiot...)
kepa
Sep 7th 2004, 3:52 pm
By the way, I have noticed increases in my backlinks to so thanks for doing this...
digitalpoint
Sep 7th 2004, 3:57 pm
Basic stats (total sites, ads, etc.) are already planned when I get time (I have a to-do list for new features also for the ad network).
kepa
Sep 7th 2004, 4:04 pm
I know how it is, believe me, and this is a free tool and you were generous enough to do something like this and make it available to eveyone for free, so I'm happy to have what I have now...again thanks.
Help Desk
Sep 14th 2004, 7:41 am
Basic stats (total sites, ads, etc.) are already planned when I get time (I have a to-do list for new features also for the ad network).
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. It's understood that you may not want somebody else playing with your work.
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