Hell lost my $6000+ in adsense

[010081]

That was really bad i got banned by adsense and my balance was $6000+
google says those were fraud clicks,anyway i got last months $2000 check.
happy with it.:mad: oh there is no way had to be happy :D

[monsterclips]

Sorry to hear about the bann ... At lease you got some money other people dont

[KingNomar]

6000 + thats a lot of money !! my god.. try emailing them !! maybe they made a mistake

[qwestcommunications]

That is a lot of money. Why did they send you payment for the last month?

[ezguy]

can you tell me what site of yours was making $6000 :)

[PixyTraffic]

Wow this is very bad and $6000 is a lot of money!!

What do you think that do you did to get banned?

[stephenhacking]

Really unfortunate...
The Big G's got really crazy nowadays, theyre banning a lot of people

[pixads]

any reason for you to get a ban?
6k takes lot's of clicks to get

[bacanze]

Really unfortunate, you e-mailed them or anything??

[010081]

oh i had my adsense on 7-8 sites i don't know which sites clicks was frauds,


so got this


Hello,

Thank you for your appeal.

After receiving your response, we re-reviewed your account data
thoroughly. We have reconfirmed that invalid clicks were generated on the
ads on your site in violation of our Terms and Conditions and program
policies.

https://www.google.com/adsense/terms
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies

We have these policies in place to help ensure the effectiveness of Google
ads for our publishers as well as our advertisers. According to our policy
on this matter, we are unable to reinstate you into the program.

As you may know, publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not
allowed any further participation in AdSense. For this reason, you may not
open a new account.

Please bear in mind that subsequent or duplicate appeals may not be
considered and you may not receive any further communication from us. We
appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team

[PixyTraffic]

[QUOTE=010081;2487734]oh i had my adsense on 7-8 sites i don't know which sites clicks was frauds,

What type of traffic was your site receiving, organic, social, paid??

Google does not like traffic from myspace sites etc, to make $6000 in a single month takes thousands of clicks.

[010081]

Traffic was sports, cricket related,
received traffics from different indian forums

[stilloutthere]

I don't understand how they get away with not giving you any data about which site had the problem. I guess they figure you'd have to get a lawyer and subpoena the records and no one will. That and the fact that a lot of people who post here about getting banned seemed to have deserved it.

[010081]

yea i mailed them about which sites had frauds clicks waiting for response.

[yfs1]

I would be interested in seeing what you emailed them for your first appeal. If you are doing $6,000 a month they usually review it pretty quick.

[iComunik]

But you should be careful when posting your sites on forum, specially after I found out that there is a network of people from India scamming Adsense, they are exchange clicks among themselves, asking people to click on their links and so on..

I am sorry to hear you got banned, but......

[KingofKings]

Man this is so sad..... 6000 dollars is not a joke...

[maliboo]

What kind of sites did you run? MFA? Article directories? Web 2.0?

[ruby]

Surely Google have to provide some hard evidence as to why they have banned you? It's the ethical thing to do really. Especially considering the amount.

[KingofKings]

Evidence? lol they don't provide crap.

[projectw3]

What type of sites are those? Social networking sites? Pure content sites? Forums?

[ruby]

Yes and I guess whos going to fight them? They'd keep you tied up in lawyers and red tape until you had to declare bankruptcy. lol

They do have their reasons for banning people ane I am sure they get it right 95% of the time or more but at least a simple explanation with some sort of evidence.

Of course anyone who gets banned always thinks they were banned unfairly, so it doesnt matter what Google tell them. I have similar experiences with an online game I run. You ban someone for something and they always complaind and protest their innocence.

[NashTax]

Sorry to hear about the ban, you got some money though, thats the main thing.

[15challenger]

Even they banned for after I completed 100$ at end of Feb.:mad: I mailed them and they said invalid clicks.:mad:

[rcj662]

Most pay per click will not give you evidence for bann. When they do not like the traffic from a site you have no real recourse.

$6,000 a month is alot and i bet traffic was poor so they looked hard at your site and urls site was listed on. I am sure google finds your urls and reads what you post on other sites. If you get involved in sites that tell members to click each other links i am sure you will be banned sooner or latter they will see the site.

I do not know why your banned just what i have seen on some sites. I would be fumming mad about $6,000 loss.

[geomark]

I would so love to see a big class action lawsuit to force G to provide proof. If they have proof that would be great to know. If they don't then they are thieves and I would love to see criminal prosecution. Seems like a few dozen $6,000 rip offs might start to get the interest of some ambulance chasers.

[010081]

for the last 6-7 months i had only $100-200/months and this last 2 months i had $2100 and $6000+,so that was my immediate increase in traffic and clicks.that was the reason i guess.

[jakomo]

Sorry man, try to find another way to earn money, like chitika..
Best regards,
Jakomo

[ruby]

Try another network.... we are opening a new network soon you might be interested in (read sig).

* Sorry for the cheap plug!

[karan265]

happy with it. oh there is no way had to be happy

Wow! Takes b*lls of steel to be happy in such a situation! :D

[projectw3]

Side track a bit...care to share what your online game is about? :D

Yes and I guess whos going to fight them? They'd keep you tied up in lawyers and red tape until you had to declare bankruptcy. lol

They do have their reasons for banning people ane I am sure they get it right 95% of the time or more but at least a simple explanation with some sort of evidence.

Of course anyone who gets banned always thinks they were banned unfairly, so it doesnt matter what Google tell them. I have similar experiences with an online game I run. You ban someone for something and they always complaind and protest their innocence.

[ruby]

I assume you are referring to me? I dont want to hijack this thread so if you are interested PM me.

[projectw3]

Hee, that's ok, I was just curious....now back to the program...:D

I assume you are referring to me? I dont want to hijack this thread so if you are interested PM me.

[monsterclips]

I was wondering why Google never provide any proof when a
site gets banned? I agree, proof should be provided, how els are
you to know if they are telling the truth or not.

[Swordfish]

sorry to hear.. try YPN now.

[pandigi]

cricket related site make that much of money.. Oh Boy

[The Stealthy One]

That was really bad i got banned by adsense and my balance was $6000+
google says those were fraud clicks,anyway i got last months $2000 check.
happy with it.:mad: oh there is no way had to be happy :D

Why not try AdBrite? I wouldn't ordinarily recommend them, but if you've been banned from AdSense, they're the best alternative.

[NewToAllThis]

for the last 6-7 months i had only $100-200/months and this last 2 months i had $2100 and $6000+,so that was my immediate increase in traffic and clicks.that was the reason i guess.

Is there any possibility you will answer the question what type of site you had? :rolleyes:

[NewToAllThis]

Why not try AdBrite? I wouldn't ordinarily recommend them, but if you've been banned from AdSense, they're the best alternative.

No they aren't AdBrite SUX!

[char]

Really sad story.Have they ever lifted anyones ban?

[Codythebest]

Well...now that you sites are actually worthless...I'll make a sacrifice to buy them from you for $20....from $0/month from adsense, you make a profit of 1000000%...which is a good deal for you...and I'll get a zero revenue sites that I need to pay for hosting and stuff....I know...I know...I'm losing my shirt here...but, hey, I'm here to help...:D

[alisha]

oh my god that's terrible, sorry to hear that. :(

[Joseph Williams]

sad story, exactly why you have to work with multiple income sources

[Notting]

You'll make a lot more money now.

Now you have adsense out of your head you can think of more creative ways of capturing the true value of the volume of traffic which your sites receive.

Try thinking less web business and more "real life" business. Maybe a bit of vertical integration perhaps - what were the people advertising on your site selling? Look at the possibilities of getting into those markets.

Good luck - the future is brighter!

Notting

[Cal813]

mabye google just didn't want to fork over 6 grand, and just thought mabye lying to you will save them the payout!

[codeber]

Surely Google have to provide some hard evidence as to why they have banned you? It's the ethical thing to do really. Especially considering the amount.

LMFAO!

I think google have provided that in about....oh.... 0.0000001% of cases where they have banned someone.

[arcguy]

you are a brave man who take this big issue and sad issue in JOke, but you might be thinking that this should not be done this way, isnt it?

[Bombaywala]

Damn thats crazy. You could have alarmed Google if you monitored your income. It would have helped I think.

[csite]

you can sue google. They have to show you exactly what the fraud clicks were and give you your legally earned clicks, companies have sued google before and won!

[dklicious]

Sorry to hear that man. :(

Hope you find another way to earn some cash.
Best of luck!

[kevinn]

That was really bad i got banned by adsense and my balance was $6000+
google says those were fraud clicks,anyway i got last months $2000 check.
happy with it.:mad: oh there is no way had to be happy :D


ok so you got Januarys check for $2000 and Februarys check was for $6000? Im sure your 300% increase in earnings in one month raised red flags.

[Tearabite]

If they have proof that would be great to know. If they don't then they are thieves and I would love to see criminal prosecution

You cant criminaly prosecute a company for abiding by the legal contract that was agreed-to by both parties.

you can sue google. They have to show you exactly what the fraud clicks were and give you your legally earned clicks, companies have sued google before and won!

Can you show us some links or info about "some companies" that have sued Adsense and won? I am just curious becuase when we signed up with Adsense we all (legally) agreed to abide by their TOS and play by their rules.. If you actually read thru those rules you will see that some may not seem fair - but that's what we agreed to..

[blogster]

may b ur visitors and impressions didnt compare well with ur earnings.....

u dont sound tht sad either....u sure 6000$ was ALL URS? or.....

[Set]

You cant criminaly prosecute a company for abiding by the legal contract that was agreed-to by both parties.

Can you show us some links or info about "some companies" that have sued Adsense and won? I am just curious becuase when we signed up with Adsense we all (legally) agreed to abide by their TOS and play by their rules.. If you actually read thru those rules you will see that some may not seem fair - but that's what we agreed to..

You can sue them, because some of their rules can be illegal/not applicable depending which country you live on.

In my country for example when there is an agreement between large company and individual/small company and the terms of such agreement are being provided by the big company and you (a small company/individual) cannot renegotiate these terms (you were not allowed to renegotiate Google TOS and suggest what they should change for you, were you?), then all entries which tries to rip you of some of your basic rights are not valid according to the law. I believe many points in their T&C would fall in that category.

So, if I've earned $6000 a month and in a legitimate way (or I would believe so) and Google banned me providing no details why they did it, then most likely I wouldn't let it go like that. Of course if Google provided the proofs or at least explained why they believe the clicks were fraudulent I wouldn't want that money.

Right now it must feel really terrible for a honest webmaster who had been click bombed for example, when he is being told: "We detected fraudulent clicks, you're kicked out of our program for life, we're keeping all your money, and sorry but we don't provide any details, bye. Thanks for your understanding.".

It's another story though that perhaps about 99.9% cases when they ban an account is a correct decision, but no one of us would like be that 0.1%, would we?

[CristianR]

6k is a large amount of money .. but , as an old saying goes " adsense sux , go for yahoo ! "

[checksum]

What kind of site was it? How were you promoting it?

[mcfox]

Traffic was sports, cricket related,
received traffics from different indian forums

for the last 6-7 months i had only $100-200/months and this last 2 months i had $2100 and $6000+,so that was my immediate increase in traffic and clicks.that was the reason i guess.
Let me guess - you were tempted by one of those paid-to-surf networks where you sign up and people just sit all day clicking on ads on all the sites in the network?

[checksum]

Let me guess - you were tempted by one of those paid-to-surf networks where you sign up and people just sit all day clicking on ads on all the sites in the network?

From that description it sounds like there was foul play.

You don't make 8k in two months advertising on forums.

[DavidK1]

Wow, I am sorry to hear all the horror stories, but I'm glad to have stumbled on this thread.

I had a similar experience over a year ago, but i've never been big into adsense.. so it was only like $800. The only reason I signed up for an account, is because I bought a site that had adsense revenue.

That site only made 3-6$ a day. About 6 months later, some of my real estate sites got top 10 serp. I put adsense on them, and instantly started doing $30 to $70 a day with my best day topping at a little over 100.

After about 3 weeks of this, I got the email from Adsense telling me my account was closed for click fraud. I responded asking the typical who, what, when, and where. Their only response was that their detection method was "secret" and the data could not be shared. They did inform me that I could send an appeal email. I did, but never got a response.

Even if there were invalid clicks, not all of them were, and that justifies taking away the previous 6 months earnings? (I never gave payment details.)

I had let it go, but this thread ignited the original anger I had, but now I can do something about it!!!!

I now manage an Adwords account that easily spends $10k a month. I took it over in mid Feb. The account had been on "budget optimizer" for almost a year, and hand't been touched! Costs of conversions were anywhere from $86 to $193 for a site that has an average sale of $67. Most of the conversion rates were below .75%, and none of them were above 1%. Now that I have a proper strategy in place, we are getting better results and spending $150 less per day!

This made me wonder. If Google is just jacking it's Adsense publishers left and right (as described in this thread) how do they redistribute that money back to the Adwords client...

I gave Adwords a call, and they told me how I could run a report. Going back to Jan 2006, the total amount spent with Google: $147,869.47.
Total amount credited for invalid clicks: $1.37.

So considering this campaign was running content network until I took charge, is an invalid click rate assessment of .000009% reasonable?

I'm sure many of you know the answer to that.

I am about to get some serious payback on Google. I went off on the Adwords rep, and she just kept trying to spin it by saying that Google cared about my client, and that they had "specialists" monitoring the account. That made me laugh really hard. I asked her, "What do the specialists think about an account that have the stats this one did. Would they certify that the "budget optimizer" was doing its job, and state that my client's money was 'well spent'?" Her reply: "I can't comment on that."

I'm going to shoot for a 25% credit of money already spent. I know thats a little lofty, but I will not settle for zero. I'll close the account if thats how it turns out... I'm getting better results with Yahoo anyways.

I'll let you know when I get a response from the invalid click "specialists".

[exponent]

Send them your IP data and call them on the phone as well. It worked for a friend of mine but didnt work for me =/

Its worth a try for $6000

[ericandcandi]

Here today gone tomorrow! G really needs some compitition. tired of hearing ( What G Wants G Gets) but I guess thats big money talkin'

[rochow]

$6000 is heaps. As good as adsense is, I've only just started realising I can't depend on adsense at all to make solid money online - it could be taken away from me any moment

[pc_user]

I was in PPC several years back and while I am not saying this is the case, I can tell you that I knew several PPC's that would just start banning people when money got tight. After all, what are people to do? From their persepective, it becomes all revenue.

[shutzu]

well man, I guess you made two mistakes
1. you haven't installed adlogger. I have it installed and every time I get a multiple click email from it I forward the e-mail to google, if they consider that a click fraud they'll take the money off from my account and "give back to advertisers" (yeah right).
2. I read somewhere, a longer time ago, that there are some countries that google doesn't because of the click fraud made from there and the traffic that is really hard to convert. (I am from Romania and blocked almost all the country to avoid any problems). between those countries was also India. Here in Romania, nobody buys nothing from the local online shops, who in the name of god would buy from UK/US? probably a small percent, but does it worth risking my account for few cents from a romanian/indian etc visitors? in this category are all the third all countries. wish there was a way to block them all....

[Set]

Wow, I am sorry to hear all the horror stories, but I'm glad to have stumbled on this thread.

I had a similar experience over a year ago, but i've never been big into adsense.. so it was only like $800. The only reason I signed up for an account, is because I bought a site that had adsense revenue.

That site only made 3-6$ a day. About 6 months later, some of my real estate sites got top 10 serp. I put adsense on them, and instantly started doing $30 to $70 a day with my best day topping at a little over 100.

After about 3 weeks of this, I got the email from Adsense telling me my account was closed for click fraud. I responded asking the typical who, what, when, and where. Their only response was that their detection method was "secret" and the data could not be shared. They did inform me that I could send an appeal email. I did, but never got a response.

Even if there were invalid clicks, not all of them were, and that justifies taking away the previous 6 months earnings? (I never gave payment details.)

I had let it go, but this thread ignited the original anger I had, but now I can do something about it!!!!

I now manage an Adwords account that easily spends $10k a month. I took it over in mid Feb. The account had been on "budget optimizer" for almost a year, and hand't been touched! Costs of conversions were anywhere from $86 to $193 for a site that has an average sale of $67. Most of the conversion rates were below .75%, and none of them were above 1%. Now that I have a proper strategy in place, we are getting better results and spending $150 less per day!

This made me wonder. If Google is just jacking it's Adsense publishers left and right (as described in this thread) how do they redistribute that money back to the Adwords client...

I gave Adwords a call, and they told me how I could run a report. Going back to Jan 2006, the total amount spent with Google: $147,869.47.
Total amount credited for invalid clicks: $1.37.

So considering this campaign was running content network until I took charge, is an invalid click rate assessment of .000009% reasonable?

I'm sure many of you know the answer to that.

I am about to get some serious payback on Google. I went off on the Adwords rep, and she just kept trying to spin it by saying that Google cared about my client, and that they had "specialists" monitoring the account. That made me laugh really hard. I asked her, "What do the specialists think about an account that have the stats this one did. Would they certify that the "budget optimizer" was doing its job, and state that my client's money was 'well spent'?" Her reply: "I can't comment on that."

I'm going to shoot for a 25% credit of money already spent. I know thats a little lofty, but I will not settle for zero. I'll close the account if thats how it turns out... I'm getting better results with Yahoo anyways.

I'll let you know when I get a response from the invalid click "specialists".

This reminds me of an old story I've heard once about an AdSense publisher that had been banned. He appealed and he was not reinstated. But it happens so he was also an AdWords advertiser spending about $15,000 a month. So he contacted Google again, saying that if they close his AdSense account he will terminate his AdWords advertiser account. They reinstated him with all the money he had on his AdSense account.

PS. By the way, your "invalid click assessment rate" is 0.0009% ;)

[gio]

$6000? wow! how much traffic is this from your site?

[DavidK1]

This reminds me of an old story I've heard once about an AdSense publisher that had been banned. He appealed and he was not reinstated. But it happens so he was also an AdWords advertiser spending about $15,000 a month. So he contacted Google again, saying that if they close his AdSense account he will terminate his AdWords advertiser account. They reinstated him with all the money he had on his AdSense account.

PS. By the way, your "invalid click assessment rate" is 0.0009% ;)

LOL... yeah forgot to move the decimal places. I was too busy focusing on the e^-6.

I don't care about the adsense account, but I feel they definitely owe my client some credit.

[Neeraj Varma]

That doesn't make sense. They banned all your Adsense sites because you had a problem on one of them?

[Mesoc]

That just tells you, you can't trust google

[TVSpoter]

I'm sorry for your situation, today I were also baned by Ads...
Anybody can tell me where is the rest of lost money..? i understand that "left" clicks are returned to the owner but "right" clikcks.... are added to the account of big G shit. Or all of yours 6000$ were fraud...??? ;) they are bandits and dot.
If they have so much efficient and professinal system, why not just set-up system to block/stop/counter of payable cliks from fraud addresse in their understanding....Why not...? I have lost many less of money after cooperation with them, than you, but better now than like You...
Sorry for my english...
P.S.
In Poland, we have much more lower prices than other west countries per click, in this big sh.....

[affordnow.com]

Sorry to hear about your lost. That's bullsh!t. What did they say when u said the clicks werent fraud?

[Set]

If they have so much efficient and professinal system, why not just set-up system to block/stop/counter of payable cliks from fraud addresse in their understanding....Why not...?
Because their system is not 100% efficient so they prefer to ban suspicious account.

In Poland, we have much more lower prices than other west countries per click, in this big sh.....
Polish advertisers bid less so the payouts are lower. What is your average pay per click? If you build English site(s) and serve ads in English language you will have "western" payout ratio. But it will still depend on your niche.

[simplist]

another reason why google sucks, there has got to be something that you can get to check if they were fruad clicks

[010081]

From that description it sounds like there was foul play.

You don't make 8k in two months advertising on forums.

i didn't advertise just posted in forums and people came rushing by. from 3-4 indian forums which have more than 2,00,000 members in each forums.

[maxed]

Feel sorry for you

[mpp]

sorry to hear that..
6000$ oh my goodness..
thats quite a lot of money

[mywebsearches]

Please don't ask for his websites url

Too many want to know, but so far he has not answer to this question

Why? Because I think he does not want to share with us that information.

[bass]

Sorry too.

[Fka200]

Threads like this get me so damn worried about my sites where Adlogger doesn't work. It really is mind boggling as to what happens behind the scenes, and it's really hard to trust anyone these days. :'(

[010081]

just saying goodbye to adsense going for yahoo now, though i'm from asia,applied for yahoo from address of one of my friend in usa.hope all will go fine.

[chris20492002]

OMG thats alot of money you lost.

BTW from your posts you dont seem that angry.

If I lost 6k in earnings I would be like F g and so forth. :P

[KingofKings]

Actually I found that weird to... You don't look that that angry? :confused:

[oseymour]

That was really bad i got banned by adsense and my balance was $6000+
google says those were fraud clicks,anyway i got last months $2000 check.
happy with it.:mad: oh there is no way had to be happy :D

sounds like a guilty man...

[Freewebspace]

That was really bad i got banned by adsense and my balance was $6000+
google says those were fraud clicks,anyway i got last months $2000 check.
happy with it.:mad: oh there is no way had to be happy :D

are you are in Nepal

That means it amounts to good 2.5 lakhs in Indian rupees

I can buy a alto with that!


What was the real reason can you give some of those site's url?

also you said that you posted in 3-4 member forums which has more than 2,00,000 members

I have never heard of such forums

Can you give the forums url?

[olang]

Hi 010081, if you applied using your friend's address, how are you getting paid? Won't they send the check to your friend's address?

[qwestcommunications]

Really unfortunate...
The Big G's got really crazy nowadays, theyre banning a lot of people

I doubt if they will be banning people indiscriminately. In most case, if not all, there are valid reasons.

[DavidK1]

I doubt if they will be banning people indiscriminately. In most case, if not all, there are valid reasons.


LOL!!! Sure, whatever you say there, chief.

[David M]

Damn that sucks, you know they just didnt want to pay you really lol.

[Briant]

Traffic was sports, cricket related,
received traffics from different indian forums

Of course someone could have sabotaged you, but if you're getting traffic enough to make $2,000-6,000 a month legitimately with adsense, you should be able to combine some other advertising options to do OK.

[Briant]

Damn that sucks, you know they just didnt want to pay you really lol.

They really could just ban you for no good reason and not explain a whole lot. Presumably they wouldn't do that, since they want to maintain their system.

[amnezia]

I was wondering why Google never provide any proof when a
site gets banned? I agree, proof should be provided, how els are
you to know if they are telling the truth or not.

they don't provide proof because they don't want reveal the methods they use for detecting invalid clicks. If they did then it would make it alot easier for people to know what they could get away with.

[DavidK1]

they don't provide proof because they don't want reveal the methods they use for detecting invalid clicks. If they did then it would make it alot easier for people to know what they could get away with.

that was the excuse I was given.

[EmmSee]

Something smells fishy here. I think if we saw the posts made in these forums and the traffic stats + website in question we'd all go "well that's why you were banned." That's just my gut.

Can we get any more information on forums posted to and traffic stats?

[geomark]

[QUOTE=Tearabite;2490096]You cant criminaly prosecute a company for abiding by the legal contract that was agreed-to by both parties.

If it is shown there is fraud involved then the contract is no defense.

[stilloutthere]

I think if you file suit you can then subpoena records. Even if you decide not to follow through with the suit, they should have to provide copies of the records. You could get slammed for filing a frivolous suit, I suppose.

[chris20492002]

are you are in Nepal

That means it amounts to good 2.5 lakhs in Indian rupees

I can buy a alto with that!


What was the real reason can you give some of those site's url?

also you said that you posted in 3-4 member forums which has more than 2,00,000 members

I have never heard of such forums

Can you give the forums url?

6k will buy alot in ANY country

[010081]

yea i'm from nepal i guess some of my sites were using paypopup ads,so i can pay for my dedicated servers .that may be reasons adsense banned me , 2 sites had paypopup ads on it.

[010081]

Hi 010081, if you applied using your friend's address, how are you getting paid? Won't they send the check to your friend's address?

yea and he will send it to me,he is my brother and a friend we trust each other.:)

[Minterest]

for the last 6-7 months i had only $100-200/months and this last 2 months i had $2100 and $6000+,so that was my immediate increase in traffic and clicks.that was the reason i guess.

No thats not a problem.. i asked them about that they said fluctuating traffic is not a problem.. i think somebody tricked you and clicked ur ads again and again... try to find it using ur logs or stats...

[Mara]

This may sound naive, but wouldn't it have helped if you had mailed and informed Google of the situation the first time your clicks soared and you earned $2000 after months of earning $100 or $200's?

You could have explained them that either you definitely have no relation with this big increase in your clicks and would like to have it inquired by them
or that "you have done this, this and this (for ex. advertised in those crowded forums, or whatsoever) in detail and the increase has rational reasons and nothing to do with invalid clicks on your part.

Am I being too naive? Reading all these horror stories around, If I started to earn thousands of dollars all of a sudden I'd think that they would need an explanation.

[kevinn]

yea i'm from nepal i guess some of my sites were using paypopup ads,so i can pay for my dedicated servers .that may be reasons adsense banned me , 2 sites had paypopup ads on it.

Well there you go, the reason why you got banned, pop ups are not allowed.

[EmmSee]

Well there you go, the reason why you got banned, pop ups are not allowed.

BINGO!

I knew we were missing something. Now we know.

[alexdale]

I thought popup ads are ok as long as it doesn't disrupt site navigation? oh well not popups with viruses though. :D

[mikkom]

they don't provide proof because they don't want reveal the methods they use for detecting invalid clicks. If they did then it would make it alot easier for people to know what they could get away with.

The real problem for them is that you have a contract with them and they have a legal obligation to give you your money. It's totally illegal in any contry to make a deal, let the other part do their work and then say "hey we don't pay you but we won't also tell you why".

for 6k I would contact attorney and sue them. That is totally illegal if no explanation is given and probably even if explanation is given - it's your money that they hold.

[Minterest]

Hey pay a visit to this site perhaps it may help you its all about reinstatement of AdSense Account.... http://www.yfs1.com/adsense-reinstatement-guide/

[mikkom]

BINGO!

I knew we were missing something. Now we know.

What do popup ads have to do with fraudulent clicks that google was using as reason to terminate his account and keep HIS money?

[010081]

BINGO!

I knew we were missing something. Now we know.

i had it on 0ne site,i must have it as i had to pay for 2 dedicated servers thru' paypal . i had no other options.

[RSLegit]

Wow, that must suck! I bet that it was a result of someone encouraging clicking ads in one of the Indian forums you advertise in though.

But hey, time to just sign up for another affiliate program and let Big G lose a lot of business!

[sbm]

Really unfortunate......Even the G wont provide u any evidence....
Its bad....

[mssarath]

really unfortunate :(

i have a friend who lost a $2000+ in adsense, so i am afraid to use them.

[Aragorn]

What do popup ads have to do with fraudulent clicks that google was using as reason to terminate his account and keep HIS money?

It has nothing to do with fraudulent clicks. Its just that Google doesn't want its ads displayed on any site having unnecessary popups.

[MWilson]

Hi,
Indian forums lol
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=271605
read it.
Mike

[pulikuttann]

Why can't you appeal them !!!
If you can;t done anything wrong then they can regain you.
Just do an appeal away !
Waiting for positive reply

[CuXe]

Yeah mon!, i'm sure you can appeal to their better nature....they'll understand!:)

[Motter]

i had it on 0ne site,i must have it as i had to pay for 2 dedicated servers thru' paypal . i had no other options.


Not true, you did have other options. Complying with TOS was the other option. Now that you don't have an adsense account you don't have other options

[threegee]

it seems that is always their easy answer? maybe adsense is a waste of time!?!!?!

[Mr_2]

That is very simple.

there was no click fraud etc...

Google simply ban those web sites with "BAD TRAFFIC" traffic from INDIA, CHINA and middle east does not convert. means people from those web sites do not buy much online. So a traffic with 0 ROI is BAD BAD BAD.

google won't say that, but instead they mantion "Click fraud"

[degy]

wow man thats really bad.
i lost $1k abouth 2 months ago and i was going crazy. Contacted them few more times always without any success.

[Sohan]

oh i had my adsense on 7-8 sites i don't know which sites clicks was frauds,


so got this


Hello,

Thank you for your appeal.

After receiving your response, we re-reviewed your account data
thoroughly. We have reconfirmed that invalid clicks were generated on the
ads on your site in violation of our Terms and Conditions and program
policies.

https://www.google.com/adsense/terms
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies

We have these policies in place to help ensure the effectiveness of Google
ads for our publishers as well as our advertisers. According to our policy
on this matter, we are unable to reinstate you into the program.

As you may know, publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not
allowed any further participation in AdSense. For this reason, you may not
open a new account.

Please bear in mind that subsequent or duplicate appeals may not be
considered and you may not receive any further communication from us. We
appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team
Got the exact same thing.

[hillord]

that's alot.. oh well.. they are trying to save some money on youtube

[010081]

so guys my clicks were not frauds i do own my own forum
http://www.indianmoviesclub.com check i have more than 2,00,000 members.

[fr0gman]

Contact a contingency attorney in San Francisco and explain things to him. You will have to pay him 20 - 30% of the amount of recovery, but I would not just sit still while Google "says" that the funds were illegitimate.

Their internal investigation is meaningless.

If you don't want to go the legal route, ask for the evidence to be sent to you for review.

[0lgi]

fr0gman , do you think a normal member as all the others can compete against the big G ?

I agree he must not stay here without doing anything but hell , you are against Google man :)

Olgi

[MrsWrite]

Wow. $6,000 lost? That's really bad. :eek:

[rgordon83]

what was your CTR?

Even if you had TONS of clicks if your CTR was not outrageous then it should not mean that those clicks are invalid. Normally CTR is more of a sign of fake clicks than the # of clicks you have...

[netpox]

[QUOTE=010081;2487734]oh i had my adsense on 7-8 sites i don't know which sites clicks was frauds,

What type of traffic was your site receiving, organic, social, paid??

Google does not like traffic from myspace sites etc, to make $6000 in a single month takes thousands of clicks.

Who told you google doesnt like traffic from myspace sites? thats not true at all!

[rgordon83]

Also,
Maybe start an online petition. publisize it and try and get a few thousand people to send. maybe even threatening not to use adsense. See if that does anything. It couldn't hurt...

[hk999]

the best way to do this is to get a lawyer! now you can buy a prepaid legal plan, in your area, so you only pay a few bucks instead of 50% if there is no legal plan in your area, then just hire a lawyer!

[BiGRob]

Hire a lawyer, google shouldn't be allowed to do this

[djrishi]

hmmm.. no way. Go for other network. thats the only solution. Best of Luck.

[BiGRob]

hmmm.. no way. Go for other network. thats the only solution. Best of Luck.

And get a lawyer

[jessica61981]

Just wanted to say Sorry. I know how bad that sucks. I got my account disabled also from them. But mine was differently here is my email I got:

Hello Jessica,

Your AdSense account was found to be related to an account previously
disabled for invalid click activity and we have therefore disabled your
account. Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed
further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further
payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the
affected advertisers.

As outlined in our program Terms and Conditions, Google reserves the
right to terminate any publisher's participation at any time.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team

Yeah that was my letter! So that totally sucked for me too! I would try contacting them also. Good Luck!

[allout]

for the last 6-7 months i had only $100-200/months and this last 2 months i had $2100 and $6000+,so that was my immediate increase in traffic and clicks.that was the reason i guess.

I am just wondering how this is possible? Not saying you did anything wrong but how did you jump so high so quick? I would be happy with a $25 a month:D

[Wyla]

I would be happy with a $25 a month:D

Then you arent a very ambitious person.

The sudden increase must have sparked the red flag. Waited until the end of the month, got their $6k and blew you off.

I would recommend you keep sending them appeals.

[allout]

Then you arent a very ambitious person.

My pages are my hobbies, I would just like to pay the cost with a little profit.

Do you really think $6000 a month is common?

[BiGRob]

It's not as uncommon as you would think

[Snout]

Just wanted to say Sorry. I know how bad that sucks. I got my account disabled also from them. But mine was differently here is my email I got:

Hello Jessica,

Your AdSense account was found to be related to an account previously
disabled for invalid click activity and we have therefore disabled your
account....

It seems you`ve been banned once, got a new account and since they found out those 2 accounts belong to same person, they disabled the latter account.

Could you please share which registration details in those 2 accounts were the same? Did you change name/address completely? Did you use the new adsense account code in old sites (sites that used to show older banned account ads in the past)?
Thanks.

[advoor]

$6000 is a BIG loss.. As others have said, get a lawyer. Best thing you can do right now.

[Auzzzie]

maybe even threatening not to use adsense. See if that does anything. It couldn't hurt...

I'm not sure if they would care that somebody who got banned doesn't want to use adsense.:p

[icebreaker]

well, that's a heartbreaker for sure. anyway, you just have to move on.

[jessica61981]

It seems you`ve been banned once, got a new account and since they found out those 2 accounts belong to same person, they disabled the latter account.

Could you please share which registration details in those 2 accounts were the same? Did you change name/address completely? Did you use the new adsense account code in old sites (sites that used to show older banned account ads in the past)?
Thanks.

Nope it wasnt like that it was 1 account I signed up with my name and everything and then got that letter. I have only had one account with them and only one site registered on that account.

[NewToAllThis]

What kind of sites did you run? MFA? Article directories? Web 2.0?

Can't you read? He was getting clicks from Indian forums. That's all they do over there is click on ads all day for dollars a day. Meanwhile, greedy publishers make thousands and Adwords advertisers lose $$.

[NewToAllThis]

Wow! Takes b*lls of steel to be happy in such a situation! :D

You would be happy too if you knew you got away scott free with an easy $2000. :D He knew it was click fraud that's why he doesn't care about the 6Gs.

[axlarry]

$6k a month = $200 a day... OMG, that's HUGE! Now what are you gonna do? Make a new account, continue to appeal or what?

Sorry to hear that, especially if you're not doing anything wrong :(

[delusion]

Damn $6000 down the drain, bad luck there buddy :( That's more than I make in a year :O

[toughguy]

Buddy,
$6000 is a lot of money.. Very sad to hear.. I see ur from Nepal.. that would convert to nearly 5 Lakh Nepali rupees if iam not wrong..

Very sad..

[codeber]

That is a hell of alot of cash not to be concerned about it.

[wentworth]

OMG!!

I just got this letter from Google:

Hello Wentworth,

Your AdSense account was found to be related to an account previously
disabled for bringing sexy back and we have therefore disabled your
account. Publishers disabled for bringing sexy back are not allowed
further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further
payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the
affected advertisers.

As outlined in our program Terms and Conditions, Google reserves the
right to terminate any publisher's participation at any time.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team

[kittyluver]

I am extremly sorry for this act of adsense. You've really lost a HUGE amount. Just keep on trying to get included in the program. Some of my friends got admitted after three months of expulsion from adsense. So keep on trying...

[BiGRob]

OMG!!

I just got this letter from Google:

Hello Wentworth,

Your AdSense account was found to be related to an account previously
disabled for bringing sexy back and we have therefore disabled your
account. Publishers disabled for bringing sexy back are not allowed
further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further
payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the
affected advertisers.

As outlined in our program Terms and Conditions, Google reserves the
right to terminate any publisher's participation at any time.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team

This is a joke right???

[Lee Rees]

$6000 down the swannie, and a boot from the big G, you must be truely gutted.

Just the other week I went absolutely crazy at my girlfriend after she suggested we click our own google ads. Of course I explained to her how stupid she is and if she ever clicks on my ads she'll end up homeless. That kind of cleared up the misunderstanding :)

Girlfriends can be replaced, Google adsense membership cant!

[Outstrip]

What was your CTR?

[Fka200]

Girlfriends can be replaced, Google adsense membership cant!


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

You def get green for that!

[itrana123]

i dont believe $6K of a month its a huge amount for me caz i m running a small site and i think one can earn this amount in a month is an owner of a huge site as well.... i dont think that its true theres something wrong .... anyways bad luck dude!

[maldives]

try emailing them !! maybe they made a mistake

The best support ever. :rolleyes:

This money is now gone.. Forget about it. :(

[itrana123]

This is a joke right???

yes bigRob i agree with you i cant believe on this thread i think its a fake thread just for wasting peoples precious time ..

[010081]

oh i was just sharing my sorrows with you guys if you don't like please close it .hell i'm also frautrated when ever i see this thread.

[stilloutthere]

disabled for bringing sexy back

Doesn't that sound a bit strange to anyone? Surely google hires people who write proper English, not "sexy back". Reads like a troll post.

[procrastinator]

wow 6000 dollars :O thats like the economy of some african country , you should surely email them to ask for some explaination.

[Lee Rees]

What is a sexy back? LOL

Did his website put the sex in sexy?, Did his site bring back the sex appeal in his niche?. Was his website so unbeleivably sexy that it started a modern day sexual revolution and due to the ecitement of "sexy" being brought back the whole world got horny and clicked his adsense ads, despite the fact that he was selling toilet cleaner?

Or, was this the work of a troll?

[itsonlychand786]

Being cheeky ;)

What was topic or url of your site

[TVSpoter]

Sorry to hear about your lost. That's bullsh!t. What did they say when u said the clicks werent fraud?

When I claimed this bullsh.. with question which and from address were "left clicks", they answear me that, "reason of ban were right and more of my claims will stay with no answear"... The And of any contacts...

[TVSpoter]

When I claimed this bullsh.. with question which and from address were "left clicks", they answear me that, "reason of ban were right and more of my claims will stay with no answear"... The And of any contacts...

[stubsy]

Sorry to hear about that, didn't they even give you a warning?

[rmartish]

$6,000 is a lot of money and a lot of clicks. Have you tried alternatives to adsense?

[wildstone]

really very sad news...:mad:

[TVSpoter]

Sorry to hear about that, didn't they even give you a warning?

Never, they never warm me about situation. More than that, in the reply for my claim(where I ask them about any details/proofs), they didn't attache any stats or something for proof his decision.......
Very very very proffesional bulls!t

[rmartish]

Unfortunately, you have to play by googles rules. That is why you always need a plan b. Just in case plan a goes down the drain.

[comcast]

sooooo badly heard that!

[FOX LORE]

Really sad story.Have they ever lifted anyones ban?
Yes, they have lifted bans.

[offthaave]

join the club, lost $80 today. those bastards banned me for somethin I knew nothing about! DEATH TO GOOGLE!

[rmartish]

I think google needs to advice people first about what is going on in there account and try to work with them. If they ban everybody they won't have much of service for adwords.

[funindya]

Sorry to hear about the ban
dude mail them

[tristanperry]

Sorry to hear that :( Try and e-mail them as much as possible - however history has shown Google to be unfair and ignorant in these cases :(

[BigBadWolf]

That sucks, 6000$ is a lot of moola!

[Skunkard]

Man, that sucks

[rmartish]

Remember life is unfair and google tends to be worse.

[imteaz]

man, this is really wrost thing. they sould have warn first then banned. but they just ban anyone when they wish, really stupid.

[talsi123]

Thats really sad.. u lost a whopping $6000.. but atleast u got somthng the previous month!

[rmartish]

Try alternatives to adsense.

[Comfis]

6k is much, but 15k is much more :P that s life that is g :)

[seo_adsense]

6000$ is a lot of money.

Google should warn user before banning the account.

Maybe a 24 hours notice to fix things. They should deduct the earnings for fraud clicks and pay rest of money, and keep the user banned if they feel like.

[rmartish]

Good Luck telling google that. I don't think they understand that not everybody is out to cheat.

[Baltek]

I wonder how exactly you could earn that much just advertising on forums though. I participate in like 10 forums from Monday to Friday and barely get 100 visitors a week.

[010081]

i'm the administrator of a forum that has:

Threads: 18,876, Posts: 243,029, Members: 199,316

so...

[rmartish]

How long did it take you to get that many members?

[zexy]

$6000 that's a lot!
Did you try to email them? Is this definitive?

[utropicmedia-karl]

6000$ is a lot of money.

Google should warn user before banning the account.

Maybe a 24 hours notice to fix things. They should deduct the earnings for fraud clicks and pay rest of money, and keep the user banned if they feel like.


Then they would be paying out a lot more money.

IMO, Adsense is a scam. Google pays out a little $$$ here and there to keep things "real", but they are under no obligation to fulfill all payments, and instead it's very easy to just keep taking advertiser's money and not paying the promoters.

[rmartish]

It seems that this could be true. Why all the secrecy with how much publisher make?

[Rogem]

Hate to say it, but this happens a lot. I think google is coning people out of money.

[debunked]

just hoping it was google doing a good job. If the someone was promoting clicks on the forum the advertisers are the ones losing.

[saharatp]

Thank you for your information

[scking]

Sorry to hear about the loss. How were you generating your clicks? Organic? Sporting sites would have good mass appeal. I may try this!

[silentsuccess]

Can I buy a bank ? yes, for 7$
http://urlfreeze.com/1/L-ece/

[leet]

At least they didn't ban your domain. Just open another AdSense account and put the ads on the same domain again.

[Rish009]

6k .. lotta money.. wht went wrong .. dont know but surely great loss

[rezx]

Traffic was sports, cricket related,
received traffics from different indian forums

A lot of the Indian subcontinent ISPs use a single shared IP address, so is there a possibility that google thought they all coming from the same user?

[rmartish]

Google's way of determining what is invalid click is flawed.

[phpbb24]

Does this mean that if you don't like someone you can just generate click on your enemies ads, to get him shut down from Google?

[Steupz]

I'd cry if I lost $6000; I really would.

[rmartish]

I would too. LOL

[stevetan]

They don't even care I am very sure about it. They expect to pay even it failed to turn a single sale. Simetimes it simply sucks. Good to hear that you manged to make money from them. I didn't use them and other ads stuffs at least will generate traffic for my site. Now I learn bit by bit. No bad just for clicking site.

[Mystique]

$6,000 is a lot of money and a lot of clicks. Have you tried alternatives to adsense?


99% of these loses are usually due to fraudulent clicks.
For goodness sake! there a webmasterz that hardly can make $6 a month (or less), how someone can generate $6,000 a day?

[rmartish]

Mystique is right I don't think the majority of the sites are making enough money out of adsense.

[010081]

nevermind guys i got accepted again with another domain ,
have learnt the lesson now,will never put adsense ads on one of my site which got be banned...

[cocaine]

Hey, why did you closed that site?
indianmoviesclub now is redirected to desitvshow.
you could try some alternative of google adsense rather than closing the site.

[rmartish]

Adsense is not the only game in town. You should really try other alternatives.

[Subesh]

Damn. Thats a lot of money. True though, You should try something else if adsense is not working for you.

[shankarkmu]

Hai guyz,
I am doing adsense since the past 6 months. But, I have earned only $2.00. The average cost per click from the ads displayed in my site is $0.7. Can anyone help me to increase more revenue.

[rmartish]

Don't expect to become a millionaire with adsense. Give us your url and we can tell you what your doing wrong.

[androomidaa]

wow! 6k? thats huge! my god thats sad indeed! i wonder how long google will run away like this..providing no real explanation and lame excuses makes google the worst advertiser of all. i wish someone would show up and sue them if they did anything illigal. or perhaps your traffic werent legit and google might have figured less unique traffic to click your ads. but 6k a month takes millions of impressions and hundreds or thousands of clicks i guess! so that makes sense. its virtually a taugh job to achieve that much unless you get hundreds of thousands of uniques.

[awiekupo]

6k can get me a new car here. Thats definitely not a small amount.

[androomidaa]

99% of these loses are usually due to fraudulent clicks.
For goodness sake! there a webmasterz that hardly can make $6 a month (or less), how someone can generate $6,000 a day?

yes thats what im struggling hard to make! i have only made $5.90 past 4 months! and yet i wonder how could i make $50 a month!! lolz
well i guess around $100 a month is more then my expectation right now :D

[ExpertForumGuy]

Yeah man that's horrible, so even if you click on your ads once you can be banned from any further participation.

I've heard many stories where people accidently click on their ads and get banned.

But people have been making money before adsense came into the picture, and they'll be making money after it.

You may have to start affiliate marketing on your website by using comission junction.

[VentureOnline]

That's pretty bad, I often wonder what if you are the victim of fraud clicks ie. a competitor doing it to close you down..

[john269]

I'm sorry to hear about your Adsense loss and the money loss with them.

[trouble4u2avoid]

Ouch...I have heard of people being banned for fraudulent clicks. But never with a balance of $6000.00.

[avalynmarie]

That's an unbelieveable amount for them to just withhold. If they aren't willing to provide you with evidence as to why they are doing this, you should go to a higher authority with a complaint.

[profitline]

in 2 months i have made $65 and its considered good for my blog, it takes time and patience...

[MrJW]

I would probably have a heart attack at the tender age of 25 if I lost $6,000 like that.

This really is a bummer for you.

Have you tried other networks like YPN, Chitka or Adbrite? if so care to tell us how you like those other ad networks please?

[010081]

Hey, why did you closed that site?
indianmoviesclub now is redirected to desitvshow.
you could try some alternative of google adsense rather than closing the site.

Just got frausted so closed for some time,i'll run it again ,how can i leave that forum it has more than 2,00,000 members .

just signuped for adbrite.

[cocaine]

Good luck.
run it soon man , you may loose lots of users if you do late to re-run it.

[mick535]

I have one site which brings in about $20 per month and that's the best I have. So when someone is making $6000 a month it become mind boggling to me how they do it.

[rmartish]

I want to know how to make 6,000 in one month.

[searchfordeal]

I want to know how to make 6,000 in one month.

more backlinks, SEO to more visitors. More Contents to repeated visitors then you will get your $6000

[seo ranter]

A lot of people also lie about their earnings......and 99.9% of people who got banned where doing something wrong...

If I have a site that earns $6,000 a month in Adsense, then I am doing triple that with other forms of advertising.....text links...maybe a store with some affiliate offers ect...

[jennypretty]

I am sorry to hear that.
6k is a big amount of money and got banned.
Oh, keep working on some other affiliates since you have lots of traffic on your site, it is easy to get that money again.
thanks.

[rmartish]

It should be easy to get advertisers to your website since you get a lot of visitors to your site.

[warrenhy]

Thats soo rediculous.....where they fraudulent clicks???

[flaw101]

If you get banned by Google,all is not lost. I've had great luck building affiliate ads that look like Adsence ads. The Google ad format is a proven money maker for them, so turn it around to work for you.

[010081]

Good luck.
run it soon man , you may loose lots of users if you do late to re-run it.

yup its true but nevermind i want it remake that site and start again .