McDar Experiment

[mcdar]

This is the same that happened with the weber bbqs page - the only difference being it went some weeks ago (and hasn't returned).
Foxy,

I find you weber bbq page in the 300's of Googles results. Where was it prior to that?

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/23/2004 [3 DCs #293, 5 DCs #308, 4 DCs #309, 6 DCs #312, 3 DCs #316]***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/24/2004 [4 DCs #295, 6 DCs #308, 6 DCs #314, 3 DCs #316]***
Postion #316 allinanchor: #7 - 07/25/2004 [4 DCs #32 ,3 DCs #296, 4 DCs #306, 2 DCs #307, 2 DCs #314, 7 DCs #315]***
Postion #34 allinanchor: #7 - 07/26/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 5 DCs #308, 1 DCs #310, 2 DCs #314, 6 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 4 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #320 allinanchor: #7 - 07/27/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #300, 5 DCs #310, 4 DCs #311, 3 DCs #319, 8 DCs #320, 2 DCs #321, 4 DCs #323] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #7 - 07/28/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 2 DCs #309, 4 DCs #310, 11 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***


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note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

238 - 7/17/2004
235 - 7/18/2004
230 - 7/19/2004
234 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
231 - 7/22/2004
600 - 7/23/2004
606 - 7/24/2004
1510 - 7/25/2004
1930 - 7/26/2004
2400 - 7/27/2004
2730 - 7/28/2004
3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
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Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

200 - 7/17/2004
192 - 7/18/2004
172 - 7/19/2004
160 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
169 - 7/24/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
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"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#34 - 06/22/2004
#33 - 06/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#78 - 06/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#74 - 06/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#131 - 07/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#137 - 07/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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PR/Backlink info

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 113)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
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~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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Note:Google API has page at #n/a

[mcdar]

Hi all,

I just read the first 19 pages of 99 pages of posts on this topic and found it very interesting.

I was wondering if mcdar or compar or foxy were willing to sumarise the experiment to date with some kind of a timeline of events and if possible major learnings?

Thanks,

Dominic

Dominic,

Sorry for the delay in getting to your request!

It has been a VERY difficult task trying to evaluate results during this experiment. When big changes ocurred in our position, I made the "big mistake" of just checking a few forums to see if any threads indicated that Google may have done something that caused many others to also see big changes.

I referred to that as a "big mistake" because every big change we experienced seemed to correspond to changes Google made that effected many other sites as well.

What I started doing is inserting links in the Complete Report to forum threads that discussed these changes.

You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)

So, although I am certain changes we made had effects in our rankings, there was no way to measure the effect of our changes due to Google changes at the same time!

Major learnings, that I would include, that this experiment has shown are
- Google has made several changes in the last six months
- I would be suspect of any reported "experiment" that did not
include some reference to Googles behavior in the same time frame!

If you look at the rise and fall of our results, we could have made some grandiose claims, however, in all honesty they would really not be accurate.

For instance - This last big drop (if I was not monitoring all datacenters) I could state that we proved that irrelevant signature links absolutely have no negitive effect, in fact have shown to have a great positive effect on serps. As when we added irrelevant sig links we went from position#315 to position #34.

That is a true statement! But is it an accurate statement? No, not really.

There was no way to distinguish the result of our adding the signature links from the most recent Google changes. -see Rank Pulse (http://www.rankpulse.com/)

In this experiment, we are trying to report accurate, well documented support of cause and effect of some linking strategies. We are not neccessarily trying to prove for our own theories.

If anything, this experiment is letting folks witness, first hand, the reality that most endure while trying to SEO for Google. If we continue, we will undoubtedly find a way to the top one of these days.

I do feel that trying to SEO for Google these days is like trying to steer a small boat on a stormy sea.

Bob and Foxy may feel differently.

:o ps - Sorry this was so long.

[Dominic]

Thanks for posting, I read the full report and am very interested in this experiment because of the way you are running it... as much as possible in a measured and objective manner.

Hence the desire to hear of 'major learnings' as I think they are more likely to unravel some great insight for us all.

I guess we just need to be patient and see this one over the longer term.

Thank you for the time you put in to this - and for your reply.

[digitalpoint]

This is the same that happened with the weber bbqs page - the only difference being it went some weeks ago (and hasn't returned).
Seems strange that this forum still holds the #2 and #3 spot for weber bbqs...

[anthonycea]

They view DP pages as more important now don't they?

[mcdar]

Seems strange that this forum still holds the #2 and #3 spot for weber bbqs...

It is this very reason that I feel that site size plays a major role in the serps.

If you are a very large site, just a few links can catapult you to the top. Smaller sites must compensate for their lack of size with significantly more links. IMHO

That is the absolute ONLY thing DP has going for it for this keyword phrase!

If I am missing something here - please point it out.

Caryl

[Foxy]

Foxy,

I find you weber bbq page in the 300's of Googles results. Where was it prior to that?

43

How did you look that deep ie in the 300s? Manually?

Seems strange that this forum still holds the #2 and #3 spot for weber bbqs...

Yeah - real strange! But I have come up with a small rationale and it centred around the fact that I placed on Liquid Markets a free advert pointing at the pages. By chance I happened to see these pages [LM] at 2+3 and Dp at 3+4 and then some seconds later it dropped to 10 - where it is now. It made me think a little.

I had already proposed, by PM, to Compar and McDar that I felt that OBLs [forward linking] had more importance than IBLs [back linking] in the latest Google algo and here on this non competitive term was a prime example of "authoritative" sites having OBLs.

Now I have altered my thinking slightly on OBLs as the LM dropped quickly but in essence it is a strong factor.

The only other factor that seems to be effecting things with the weber bbqs is the "php?" - and it seems that the brakes have been taken off. That is perhaps why initially we saw a great plethora of directories/forums in results after the Feb update and the relevance came from the OBLs on those pages.

:)

[mcdar]

...

How did you look that deep ie in the 300s? Manually?

:)

I used this tool...

Datacenter Quick Check (http://www.mcdar.net/Q-Check/datatool.asp)

Caryl

[Foxy]

I used this tool...

Datacenter Quick Check (http://www.mcdar.net/Q-Check/datatool.asp)

Caryl

It keeps coming up with the liquidmarkets results not the growlers results :confused:

[mcdar]

Foxy,

I was using www.growlers-sausages.com/weber_bbqs.htm as the url and weber bbqs as the keyword phrase.

[Foxy]

Foxy,

I was using www.growlers-sausages.com/weber_bbqs.htm as the url and weber bbqs as the keyword phrase.

Oh what a plonker I can be!!!

I finally entered the full url and hey presto!!

However if you enter the www.growlers-sausages.com/weber-bbqs.htm you get the liquid markets results - I guess it is picking up the address off LM :o

[mcdar]

Oh what a plonker I can be!!!

I finally entered the full url and hey presto!!

However if you enter the www.growlers-sausages.com/weber-bbqs.htm you get the liquid markets results - I guess it is picking up the address off LM :o

I don't know what you mean, Foxy. I have check this out manually on the Datcenter Watch Tool as well and it is your page that is returned at position #340 NOT Liquid Markets. :confused:

[Foxy]

Here is the screen

[mcdar]

Here is a screen shot of what I am getting.

It must be a difference from US to UK

[Foxy]

That is the page with the underscore.._..whereas I am showing the dash -

[mcdar]

OK, I see now we were talking about two different pages.

[mcdar]

I have just read a theory in a thread in SEO Chat posted by pk_synths (http://forums.seochat.com/t13797/s.html) (who is also registered in this forum)

Cha-Ching. Thanks for that. My feeling exactly :)

For highly competative words Google focuses more on your anchor text so having a high density might dilute the actual strength of the anchor text. For example you can have an easy mathematical formula that divides andchor text by keyword density to get the desired effect.

300 backlinks with "widget" as the anchor text divided by 4 (density) = 75
300 backlinks with "widget" as the anchor text divided by 2 (density) = 150 <more weight :)

Not saying that what it is by it seems like it. This can give smaller sites a chance to rank near big sites because a site with 125 backlinks with "widget" as the anchor text divided by .75 (density) = 166.6 :)

I think Google is looking for anchor text that isn't similar to the homepage keyword density. So the backlinks enforce what a site is about.

Just a hunch ;)

I am wondering if anyone would see a problem in testing this theory with our experimental page?

Currently, the page has a 15.54% keyword density for the phrase sleeping bags. I have modified a copy of the page that would reduce the keyword density for the same two words to 5.92%

IF pks theory is valid, this should give us a significant rise in the serps.

Please comment on this suggestion!

Thanks,
Caryl

[compar]

Please comment on this suggestion!

Thanks,
Caryl
What is his evidence for this conclusion? The theory seems counter to anything we have ever thought.

I personally don't pay any attention to KW density at all, but there is no way that I can see, or think, that Google would be diluting link or anchor text value based on on-page kKW density.

But there is nothing wrong with testing it I guess. Although I don't think we should do anything until we know what Google is presently doing. The site can't continue to be in the 40s for half a dozen datacenters and other wise not show up anywhere. This situation has to straighten out.

Google is still badly fucked up in my opinion. They report 8 backlinks for my PageRank article and give it a PR0. Eight backlinks is not a lot, but it certainly doesn't give you a PR0.

If we make any change now we won't know what their impact is in my opinion.

[mcdar]

Right you are, Bob! We should hold off making changes until Google comes to it's senses.

What interested me in this is that here is a theory put forth that seems to have nothing to substantiate it. It should be easy with our experiment to see if it holds any water.

[compar]

What interested me in this is that here is a theory put forth that seems to have nothing to substantiate it. It should be easy with our experiment to see if it holds any water.
Well there are theorys and then there are theorys. Most of the half decent ones have something to substantiate them. The fact that this one doesn't just indicates to me it's probably worth.

Until there was some more data to substantiate it I wouldn't waste my time testing it.

[mcdar]

I started to wonder IF the signature links may be the culpret of our being MIA in 15 of the datacenters. So I started to look at the results of some competitors.

I found this competitors site to be in a wide range of positions (#34 to #107) as well. A check on their reported links indicated NO forum links to the page.

the attachment is a snapshot of results on the .104 bank of datacenters.

[Foxy]

It is an interesting hunch/theory - it perhaps has some relevance in that one phrase "anchor text that isn't similar to the homepage keyword" [notice I left off the word density] would make some logical [read Google mindset] sense in that they would be attempting to remove SEO.

However I tested the weber bbqs for KWD against another page KWD [not weber] that ranks highly in competitive situations and that had just moved up 4 places and I found that the KWD was about the same at .....wait for it....40%!!

As you can see I don't care too much about KWD!

What is interesting though, and perhaps more relevant, the weber bbqs page/s that dropped out of site to 300+ was replaced, with another wbbq page that I had placed on another site, at 25, and that page has the same KWD as the others and about the same number of links.

So I tested the first pages in a search for weber bbqs

1. www.webergrills.com KWD 0% IBL32 Result=0
2. forums.digitalpoint.com/archive/index.php/t-481.html KWD 12% IBL 0 Result=0
3. forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=481 KWD 0% IBL 0 Result=0

I stopped just here as the results are pretty conclusive don't you think? The most important points IMHO here are that the first result the page does not have any mentions of the phrase at all and neither does it rate on allinanchor for the phrase, and so the modified statement above about the KW phrase and text perhaps has some relevance!

So as Bob says we should let things settle down before changing things in this test but if you would like me to experiment with the "control" of wbbqs I am more than happy to :)

[mcdar]

Foxy,

How would you propose to test for keyword density for your page?

But, then again, we do have in depth records of the experimental page, so once G settles down it should be easy to see if the change makes a difference.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/23/2004 [3 DCs #293, 5 DCs #308, 4 DCs #309, 6 DCs #312, 3 DCs #316]***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/24/2004 [4 DCs #295, 6 DCs #308, 6 DCs #314, 3 DCs #316]***
Postion #316 allinanchor: #7 - 07/25/2004 [4 DCs #32 ,3 DCs #296, 4 DCs #306, 2 DCs #307, 2 DCs #314, 7 DCs #315]***
Postion #34 allinanchor: #7 - 07/26/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 5 DCs #308, 1 DCs #310, 2 DCs #314, 6 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 4 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #320 allinanchor: #7 - 07/27/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #300, 5 DCs #310, 4 DCs #311, 3 DCs #319, 8 DCs #320, 2 DCs #321, 4 DCs #323] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #7 - 07/28/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 2 DCs #309, 4 DCs #310, 11 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****


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note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

238 - 7/17/2004
235 - 7/18/2004
230 - 7/19/2004
234 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
231 - 7/22/2004
600 - 7/23/2004
606 - 7/24/2004
1510 - 7/25/2004
1930 - 7/26/2004
2400 - 7/27/2004
2730 - 7/28/2004
3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
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Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

200 - 7/17/2004
192 - 7/18/2004
172 - 7/19/2004
160 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
169 - 7/24/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
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"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#34 - 06/22/2004
#33 - 06/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#78 - 06/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#74 - 06/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#131 - 07/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#137 - 07/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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PR/Backlink info

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 113)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
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~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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Note:Google API has page at #45

[mcdar]

FYI:

As of 11:27PM EST 8/3/2004

I noticed 5 additional Datacenters went offline.

They are still offline this AM.

The Datacenters are:
216.239.59.98 (bank .98)
216.239.53.98 (bank .98)
66.102.7.98 (bank .98)
216.239.59.103 (bank .103)
64.233.161.98 (bank "new")
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In January of this year, Google pulled offline it's .100 bank of Datacenters. They were the ones known as ie. gv, cw, dc, ex, etc. There was about 11 US datacenters in all.

At the same time they started up approx. 56 Datacenters US to replace them. That number grew to 61 shortly thereafter. These are the Datacenters that are monitored by the Datacenter Watch Tool (link in sig below).

As can be seen in the Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm) of our experiment, many of these datacenters have been taken offline starting around May 20th.

To date, 33 of these Datacenters are now offline.

Commentary: Maybe this is an indication that the "search for a new Algorithm is winding down" and the need for so many testing areas has diminished.

Caryl

[compar]

Foxy,

I just don't think you can draw any valid conclusions from these single page and relatively uncontrolled tests. The first problem is that we don't know or understand what Google is currently doing. There just seems to be a vast inconsistency in Google results, so to draw any conclusion based on the type of information you site above really doesn't prove anything IMO.

I can show you pages that rank well in allinanchor and all the other criteria we all feel are important. By any of these measures these pages should be top 20 or 30 at a minimum and yet they are nowhere on the horizon.

I don't know what Google is doing, but the whipsawing of so many pages just makes it impossible to draw any valid conclusions.

[mcdar]

Agreed, Bob!

It really makes no sense to try to test anything at the time being considering Googles current state.

The only thing that makes sense is to batten down the hatches and just ride out the storm.

After all, how long could it last? ha,ha,ha!

[leeds1]

it's all very odd.

Any new page on my forum OR website gets in the index within 2 days - and if it's a low competitive phrase we are in the top 5

BUT, for my main KWs - I am not moving (well, only backwards !)

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/23/2004 [3 DCs #293, 5 DCs #308, 4 DCs #309, 6 DCs #312, 3 DCs #316]***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #7 - 07/24/2004 [4 DCs #295, 6 DCs #308, 6 DCs #314, 3 DCs #316]***
Postion #316 allinanchor: #7 - 07/25/2004 [4 DCs #32 ,3 DCs #296, 4 DCs #306, 2 DCs #307, 2 DCs #314, 7 DCs #315]***
Postion #34 allinanchor: #7 - 07/26/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 5 DCs #308, 1 DCs #310, 2 DCs #314, 6 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 4 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #320 allinanchor: #7 - 07/27/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #300, 5 DCs #310, 4 DCs #311, 3 DCs #319, 8 DCs #320, 2 DCs #321, 4 DCs #323] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #7 - 07/28/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 2 DCs #309, 4 DCs #310, 11 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

238 - 7/17/2004
235 - 7/18/2004
230 - 7/19/2004
234 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
231 - 7/22/2004
600 - 7/23/2004
606 - 7/24/2004
1510 - 7/25/2004
1930 - 7/26/2004
2400 - 7/27/2004
2730 - 7/28/2004
3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

200 - 7/17/2004
192 - 7/18/2004
172 - 7/19/2004
160 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
169 - 7/24/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#34 - 06/22/2004
#33 - 06/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#78 - 06/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#74 - 06/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#131 - 07/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#137 - 07/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 113)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

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[Dominic]

Using the keyword tool I enter my domain www.homeless.org.au and the keyword homeless - and for the past two days I have been getting the results for another domain.

[mcdar]

You are getting that result because your url is in the "snippet" of the other guy's listing in the Google results...

TheHomelessGuy.Net
There's more to homeless people than being homeless. Friday, July 30, 2004. ... Yes, I'll try that again. Here's one to start you off with: www.homeless.org.au. ...
www.thehomelessguy.net/ - 46k - Cached - Similar pages

if you use www.homeless.org.au/ you can avoid that.

[Foxy]

Foxy,

I just don't think you can draw any valid conclusions from these single page and relatively uncontrolled tests. The first problem is that we don't know or understand what Google is currently doing. There just seems to be a vast inconsistency in Google results, so to draw any conclusion based on the type of information you site above really doesn't prove anything IMO.

I can show you pages that rank well in allinanchor and all the other criteria we all feel are important. By any of these measures these pages should be top 20 or 30 at a minimum and yet they are nowhere on the horizon.

I don't know what Google is doing, but the whipsawing of so many pages just makes it impossible to draw any valid conclusions.

Bob perhaps you misunderstood me - I was proving that the PKsynths hunch had a very small basis of standing - that is that it didn't stand up to scrutiny at all.

3 results with f...all, that is 0, on pages that are uncompetitive [that means nothing to screw up the factors] is not the way to base a theory.

On the other hand we could test the modified statement "anchor text that isn't similar to the homepage keyword" on the bbq pages, if we three want, on the basis of "anchor text that isn't similar to the homepage keyword" without harm to the main experiment.

In other words we could test, and then implement, if proven, when stability has come around.

But then I'm not sure it is worth the hassle as it doesn't stand up as a theory so far! :)

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #34 allinanchor: #7 - 07/26/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 5 DCs #308, 1 DCs #310, 2 DCs #314, 6 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 4 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #320 allinanchor: #7 - 07/27/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #300, 5 DCs #310, 4 DCs #311, 3 DCs #319, 8 DCs #320, 2 DCs #321, 4 DCs #323] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #7 - 07/28/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 2 DCs #309, 4 DCs #310, 11 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

238 - 7/17/2004
235 - 7/18/2004
230 - 7/19/2004
234 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
231 - 7/22/2004
600 - 7/23/2004
606 - 7/24/2004
1510 - 7/25/2004
1930 - 7/26/2004
2400 - 7/27/2004
2730 - 7/28/2004
3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

200 - 7/17/2004
192 - 7/18/2004
172 - 7/19/2004
160 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
169 - 7/24/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#34 - 06/22/2004
#33 - 06/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#78 - 06/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#74 - 06/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#131 - 07/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#137 - 07/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 113)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

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[compar]

But then I'm not sure it is worth the hassle as it doesn't stand up as a theory so far! :)
In my mind the theory is so improbable that I think it should just be dismissed out of hand. We have already wasted more time than it is worth discussing it.

[Foxy]

Quite.......

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #34 allinanchor: #7 - 07/26/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 5 DCs #308, 1 DCs #310, 2 DCs #314, 6 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 4 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #320 allinanchor: #7 - 07/27/2004 [7 DCs #34, 3 DCs #300, 5 DCs #310, 4 DCs #311, 3 DCs #319, 8 DCs #320, 2 DCs #321, 4 DCs #323] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #7 - 07/28/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 2 DCs #309, 4 DCs #310, 11 DCs #317, 4 DCs #318] ***
Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

238 - 7/17/2004
235 - 7/18/2004
230 - 7/19/2004
234 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
231 - 7/22/2004
600 - 7/23/2004
606 - 7/24/2004
1510 - 7/25/2004
1930 - 7/26/2004
2400 - 7/27/2004
2730 - 7/28/2004
3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910[/COLOR] - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

200 - 7/17/2004
192 - 7/18/2004
172 - 7/19/2004
160 - 7/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
164[/COLOR] - 7/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
169 - 7/24/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#34 - 06/22/2004
#33 - 06/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#78 - 06/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#74 - 06/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#131 - 07/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#137 - 07/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 113)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

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[ROV]

Hi folks

Real interesting thread. Just skimmed through most of it because it's so long, so I probably missed a lot.

I was wondering about this from post #27. Google no longer post an explanation for allinanchor as far as I know but I assume this was the explanation they once posted.

Use the allinanchor command to find out how you rank.

This command will show you how rank based on the Anchor Text of your web page."

It looks like the allinanchor operator is just a ranking of Anchor text on the actual web page much like the other "allin" operators- url, text and title are only concerned with web page stuff. I always assumed and got the impression from reading forums and the like that it included anchor text from IBL's.

If it were just on page anchor text it might explain a few things such as

the high correlation between allinanchor and allintext results
and why allinanchor for sleeping bags never really moved too much with the adding and removing of the sig files.

What do you think?

[compar]

If it were just on page anchor text it might explain a few things such as

the high correlation between allinanchor and allintext results
and why allinanchor for sleeping bags never really moved too much with the adding and removing of the sig files.

What do you think?Fascinating suggestion. The question then is, is allinanchor a measure of the number of occurrences of the anchor text on the specific "page" or or on the entire "web site"?

The quotation says "This command will show you how (you) rank based on the Anchor Text of your web page." In fact it is generally thought that Google always deal with pages not web sites.

Now if we agree that it is pages rather than websites then the McDar sleeping bags page should clearly be #1 for all in anchor. By my quick count there are 31 occurrences of "sleeping bags" in anchor text on that page. Compared with the #1 page, both in allinanchor and in the SERP, which only has two links using that term, as far as I can see from a quick inspection.

Now Amazon which is #2 both in the SERP and allinanchor doesn't appear to have "sleeping bags" anywhere on the page. They seem to have opted strictly for the singular form and use "sleeping bag" the same way as the experimental page and about the same number of times.

Then if you use McDar's tool for "sleeping bag", the Amazon page doesn't show up anywhere in the top 1,000 in the SERP or top 100 in the allinanchor.

So I agree your theory would seem to explain a number of anomalies, but I think a fairly superficial test like I have just done pretty will rules out the possibility that it is only anchor text from the subject page.

[ROV]

I just remembered that allinanchor is an option on the Google Advanced Search page and the language there is a little clearer and tends to confirm the result of your quick test.

Return results where my terms occur in links to the page

I'd say that would include onpage and inbound anchor text.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910[/COLOR] - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840[/COLOR] - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156[/COLOR] - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 113)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #48[/QUOTE]

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910[/COLOR] - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840[/COLOR] - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156[/COLOR] - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #N/A

[mcdar]

For the last three days the results for the Experiment page have been EXACTLY the same for ALL of the parameters I check each day!

This is a first!

Regarding the current Backlink Update:

We have DROPPED links again :(

We went from 129 reported on July 16th to 85 reported today. (the previous update we dropped from 325 to 129)
___________
~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

Caryl - 13 (out of 129 links plus)
Bob - 13 (out of 80 links plus)
Digitalpoint - 20 (out of 2000 plus)
SEO Chat - 28 (out of 600 plus)
Foxy - 0 (out of 2)

Pitiful :(

[compar]

I only have one response. Google is broken and out of control!

[mcdar]

AGAIN this update- :confused:

My main site (www*mcdar*com) is showing 38 links from this forum that do NOT exist! :confused:

All of the links from this forum point to the experiment page NOT the main index page.

I do not find any of the other "missing links" (ha,ha) ie. from Foxy, Bob, or SEO Chat, showing up as links to my main site. Just DP links.

Caryl

[l0cke]

AGAIN this update- :confused:

My main site (www*mcdar*com) is showing 38 links from this forum that do NOT exist! :confused:

All of the links from this forum point to the experiment page NOT the main index page.The links are coming from your homepage link in your profile. To see what I mean, click on your username in a post and then click 'Visit mcdar's homepage'.

[mcdar]

While that seems like a good explaination, it does not seem to be the case.

The links reported from Link:www*mcdar*com are pointing to particular forum posts.

PLUS if this were the case, why would there actually be MORE links reported from this forum to my main index page than are being reported from this forum to the experiment page?

1 forum link (homepage in user profile) to index.htm = 38 links reported (all from forum posts)

1000+ forum links (sig links) to sleeping-bags.htm = 20 links reported

You would at least think they would be equal.

[mcdar]

FYI:

I just checked and this thread (forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=256) has 34 links reported and has a PR4. :D

Caryl

[digitalpoint]

Maybe higher PR... since PR hasn't updated in 6 weeks now. And the Google directory shows the root of the forum PR7 now (it never was PR7, so it's not from an old update). :)

[l0cke]

While that seems like a good explaination, it does not seem to be the case.

The links reported from Link:www*mcdar*com are pointing to particular forum posts.

PLUS if this were the case, why would there actually be MORE links reported from this forum to my main index page than are being reported from this forum to the experiment page?I have no idea why only a small amount of the backlinks from are being displayed.. You were assuming links to www*mcdar*com were nonexistent on this forum, I was merely stating that every post you make creates a link www*mcdar*com.

[mcdar]

Thanks for pointing that out, l0cke!

I really never even thought about that profile counting as a link before. Let alone as multiple links.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #317 allinanchor: #6 - 07/29/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #298, 1 DCs #315, 1 DCs #316, 14 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318, 4 DCs #319] ***
Postion #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/01/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 2 DCs #48, 4 DCs #53] ***[/B]
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 7/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
85 - 7/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3020 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3160 - 7/31/2004
3360 - 8/01/2004
3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910[/COLOR] - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840[/COLOR] - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
171 - 7/31/2004
168 - 8/01/2004
167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156[/COLOR] - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #N/A

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #7 - 08/02/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #45, 9 DCs #47, 4 DCs #50] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #N/A

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [17 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
207 - 8/13/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #51

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730 - 8/14/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #51

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________


~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #N/A

[mcdar]

Well, the "good news" is I am no longer seeing the large differences in SERPS across the Google Datacenters.

All now just seem to be within the normal flux range now.

The obvious "Bad News" is that the Google changes have left out the Experiment page completely (for the main keyword sleeping bags).

The page is now gone from ALL Datacenters!

The page is NOT banned as it will still come up #1 in the serps for non-competitive keywords!

??????????????????????

Any ideas?

??????????????????????

Edited to add: I was just checking some things and found that the "last cache date" on the experiment page is Jun 22, 2004 05:47:38 GMT - this may or may not be a factor!

Caryl

[bobmutch]

McDar: When will the tool be back up, and what changes are you making?
Have you consided doing an average on the PR and BL's. I am getting tired for adding them up all the time.

[compar]

McDar: When will the tool be back up, and what changes are you making?
Have you consided doing an average on the PR and BL's. I am getting tired for adding them up all the time.
I saw you ask that same question in another thread. What good is the average of these items? There is only 10 to scan as it is, and you don't want to beat the average you want to beat the #1 page.

[mcdar]

McDar: When will the tool be back up, and what changes are you making?
Have you consided doing an average on the PR and BL's. I am getting tired for adding them up all the time.

I am not sure yet, when the tool will be back up, we are considering making some changes since the code needs to be updated.

We will consider your request for averages.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710 - 8/17/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 8/17/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Position Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #N/A

[mcdar]

Come on guys...

This experiment page has just completely fallen off the face of Google.

Someone must have a comment :confused:

Even by Googles latest accounting, the page has 85 links pointing to it, yet the cache of the page has NOT been updated since June 22nd (which happens to be the date of a PR/BL update two updates ago)

I have checked and found other internal pages with no real external backlinks that have been updated recently. Why has this pages cache not been updated?

I ran a spider simulator and found no problems with the page.

Caryl

[Foxy]

Come on guys...

This experiment page has just completely fallen off the face of Google.

Someone must have a comment :confused:

Even by Googles latest accounting, the page has 85 links pointing to it, yet the cache of the page has NOT been updated since June 22nd (which happens to be the date of a PR/BL update two updates ago)

I have checked and found other internal pages with no real external backlinks that have been updated recently. Why has this pages cache not been updated?

I ran a spider simulator and found no problems with the page.

Caryl

I think the Goodle Button [Google as God with the special button] has been pushed Caryl

They are taking the piss - I have thought and thought about this page and the Weber BBQs page/s and there is no logical reason why these pages have disappeared - bear in mind that I recreated a different and unrelated page on a different site for this term and it sits about where I thought it would be and where my BBQ page was before it started the downward drift.

In other words the proof of the pudding was when this page [sleeping bags] got to 15 and that was when the goodle button was pushed - they forgot it when the rehash happened and it temporarily showed the highs again and then they hit the button.

Now I have entered other similar pages on the BBQ site and they are doing .......nothing! So I am going to try a different tack now and if I show up I will be surprised. Remember that I am 1+2 for allintext 1+2 for allinanchor and 4 for allinurl and DP is only 4+5 allintext for this totally non-competitive phrase.

What I am about to do is recreate [differently] the DP forum pages that are 1+2 for this phrase. The only thing that this forum has is OBLs and Title [and of course a lot of IBLs] But the point has been made that if you have the anchor in OBL and title that is what G is using together with authority [read IBls] to position the pages.

It remains to be seen whether the sleeping bags page is suffering exactly the same but I would hazard a guess it is - what I am about to find out is whether it has wider ramifications. :eek:

[Foxy]

Just to see where I have been "slung" to I went and looked - My pages are at about 350 after, believe it or not, another page from the "other site that has a page at 25ish" that just has a footer link of the term!

So ....... I am going to sling them totally - as a control for this experiment they are now useless. :)

[mcdar]

Here is a perspective of the big changes in our serps and when they occured.

PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________
Position #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51]**30 DCs Not Res**

Position #169 allinanchor: #5 - 07/17/2004 [6 DCs #166, 5 DCs #170, 2 DCs #190] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
Position #311 allinanchor: #6 - 07/18/2004 [3 DCs #291, 3 DCs #300, 3 DCs #302, 4 DCs #309]**29 DCs are Not Responding**

Position #315 allinanchor: #6 - 07/30/2004 [9 DCs #34, 3 DCs #297, 1 DCs #313, 1 DCs #314, 14 DCs #315, 4 DCs #316, 1 DCs #317, 1 DCs #318]**27 DCs Not Resp**
Position #Not Found allinanchor: #6 - 07/31/2004 [16 DCs Not Found, 2 DCs #39, 6 DCs #40, 7 DCs #42, 4 DCs #48]**27 DCs are Not Responding**


Position #188 allinanchor: #6 - 07/16/2004 [7 DCs #169, 5 DCs #190, 2 DCs #205] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________
Position #188 allinanchor: #6 - 07/16/2004 [7 DCs #169, 5 DCs #190, 2 DCs #205] **29 DCs are Not Responding**

Position #43 allinanchor: #4 - 06/24/2004 [3 DCs #41, 3 DCs #51] Note: Allinanchor #5 on 4 DCs, 3 on 1 DC **29 DCs are Not Responding**
Position #144 allinanchor: #5 - 06/25/2004 [5 DCs #142, 3 DCs #143] **29 DCs are Not Responding**

Position #125 allinanchor: #5 - 07/05/2004 [5 DCs #119, 2 DCs #124, 6 DCs #171] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 9 DCs**29 DCs are Not Responding**
Position #172 allinanchor: #6 - 07/06/2004 [5 DCs #164, 6 DCs #171] **29 DCs are Not Responding**

Position #46 allinanchor: #5 - 06/22/2004 [1 DCs #44, 1 DCs #45, 2 DCs #53] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
Position #46 allinanchor: #5 - 06/22/2004 [1 DCs #44, 1 DCs #45, 2 DCs #53] **29 DCs are Not Responding**

Position #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/9/2004 [All DCs] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
Position #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/10/2004 [3 DCs #26, 4 DCs #28] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
Position #30 allinanchor: #4 - 06/11/2004 [All DCs] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
Position #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/12/2004 [3 DCs #44, 8 DCs #45] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
Position #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/13/2004 [3 DCs #46, 11 DCs #48] **29 DCs are Not Responding**

Position #25 allinanchor: #4 - 05/31/2004 [All DCs not recorded] **29 DCs are Not Responding**
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
Position #25 allinanchor: #4 - 05/31/2004 [All DCs not recorded] **29 DCs are Not Responding**

Position #15 allinanchor: #6 - 05/14/2004 [28 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #7 on 28 DCs
Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
Position #27 allinanchor: #5 - 05/16/2004 [11 datacenters #31] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
Position #28 allinanchor: #5 - 05/17/2004 [5 datacenters #33] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 6 DCs

Position #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/23/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Position Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

[compar]

Caryl,

Just for fun try submitting the Sleeping Bag page to Google. They haven't cached it since June 22 despite all the links to it. So submit it and see if that wakes them up.

I'm going to start to use a new acronym for Google. It is MFSE. All I can tell you is that "M" stands for mother and "SE" stands for search engine. You'll have to figure the rest out yourself :D

[Dominic]

Caryl,

I was checking in to see if the new version of your keyword tool is available yet and I was wondering how you cover the costs (I saw a few ads).

Have you considered making it a requirement that to check a site that that site must contain a link to McDar?

Also was wondering how heavily used the tools on your site are?

Dominic

PS - has Digital Point considered something like a link requirement?

[mcdar]

Caryl,

Just for fun try submitting the Sleeping Bag page to Google. They haven't cached it since June 22 despite all the links to it. So submit it and see if that wakes them up.

I'm going to start to use a new acronym for Google. It is MFSE. All I can tell you is that "M" stands for mother and "SE" stands for search engine. You'll have to figure the rest out yourself :D

Bob,

I have changed the page name from Sleeping-Bags.htm to sleeping-bags.htm. I have seen Google do wierder things before just because of capitalization.

This also freshened the date of the page.

I will keep a daily watch of the page to see if and when a new cache is saved.

I hesitate to submit the page as this would lead into a whole new can of worms and I just don't want to go there right now.

Caryl

[mcdar]

Hi All,

I just happened to notice that...

3 days after the June 22nd update - we dropped ~100 places!
3 days after the July 16th update - we dropped ~150 places!
5 days after the Aug 09 update - we dropped to Not Found on all datacenters

The June 22nd Update credited the page with 108 links from non-forum web pages. The following update, July 16th, we were credited with only 16 links from non-forum web pages.

Maybe the forum links had nothing to do with any of this. If you only count regular webpage links to the page, having only 16 links is probably the reason we dropped to nowhere.

If This is the case...

The only way we will see anything else happen in this experiment is to get many links donated from followers of this thread!

I have monitored the daily views from the start and we get ~100 views per day.

At this point we NEED more help!

IF we can get many to donate a link or two for a month or until the next update, we may be able to tell if...

- Site wide links are in-effective
- Many links from different sites are what Google is looking at.
- It would also give more evidence regarding relevancy.

If you are willing to help, please PM me with the link information (the PR of the link does not matter). Or send an email to experiment@mcdar.com

Please copy and paste this link:
<a href="http://www.mcdar.com/camping1/sleeping-bags.htm">sleeping bags</a>

If we get enough folks to help, we can go forward.

Thank you,
Caryl

[compar]

If we get enough folks to help, we can go forward.

Thank you,
Caryl
Caryl,

That's a great idea. We have to do something or abandon the project.

Have you considered reciprocal links? Why not put a section on the bottom of the page that simply says "links to our sponsors" and reciprocate with everyone who is willing to get involved?

[mcdar]

Splendid idea, Bob!

We will offer a reciprocal links to anyone who donates. Also, I can offer a link from the site's "resource page" if folks are interested in maintaining the link longer than the month requested.

Caryl

[TLDTrader.com]

I'm willing to help in your experiment, Caryl.

I can give you site-wide backlinks to determine if this is true: "Site wide links are in-effective". Honestly, I'm beginning to feel that this is the case :rolleyes:

Send me PM for details.

Regards.

[Dominic]

Email sent - links from 2 domains

[nadlay]

Email sent - links from two domains.

Can you publish here the HTML code you wish us to use for the link?

[mcdar]

GREAT GUYS!!!!

Keep-em-coming we will need a large number to "buy our way out of Purgatory - or wherever the HELL we are!!!

I will answer ALL emails and PMs!!!

PS - I specifically created and posted an email address so that those of you that follow this thread, but are "Guests" of this forum could also partake in this effort.

ALL privacy issues will be respected.

Caryl

[mopacfan]

Email sent - links from three domains

[mcdar]

Email sent - links from two domains.

Can you publish here the HTML code you wish us to use for the link?

Thanks, nadlay!!!!!! :D

Shoot - I entered the link to the post above but must have forgoten to save it :o

Please copy and paste this link:
<a href="http://www.mcdar.com/camping1/sleeping-bags.htm">sleeping bags</a>

[nadlay]

Links placed

[T0PS3O]

To check for 'Host Affiliation' shouldn't you keep note of the IP of each domain that links?

I too believe that as soon as G sees many links from the same IP or same domain come in into a page, they will discard all/most of them or perhaps even penalize the page.

By knowing each domain's IP you would be in a better position to check whether G does implement such a 'background' check.

[mcdar]

Great Idea, TOPS30!

I have kept a chart of the donated links so far and added a column for IP addresses.

Note: I will look them up - so don't worry about this if you want to donate a link

Keep em coming folks!

Thanks again,
Caryl

[leeds1]

Caryl

Does this all suggest that forum links are worthless now?

They seemed to count at the beginning of the experience but as we all know changes were made since then....

[mcdar]

This is what we are trying to determine with adding links from webpages located on different websites.

I would NOT speculate (ie. sig links =worthless) at this point what exactly has effected this page. There are too many factors involved lately.

I would say if we start to come back plus some of the new links show up in the next update, we could then have reason to believe it was the addition of the "new" links and NOT the sig links that helped.

[Extranet Guy]

link added

[compar]

Talking about link to our experimental page, one thing we haven't tried is submitting to directories. I know we haven't got the budget for PFI directories, but there are still lots of free ones.

The problem is that submission is a ton of work. I always have a hell of a time figuring out what category a page belongs in, and then half the time some editor will put it in a different category anyway.

I had an editor move a site I submitted last week some time to a category that has absolutely nothing to do with the site.

In any case I would put together the title, description and keywords that we would need for directory submission if anyone wants to volunteer to do some submissions.

Do we have any DMOZ editors on here who could help us get listed there?

[Dominic]

Do we have any DMOZ editors on here who could help us get listed there?

Isn't DMOZ a 'sacred site?' :p

[sarahk]

Do we have any DMOZ editors on here who could help us get listed there?Shawn's given us a whole section of the forum to ask for help: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=25

but as for asking for direct assistance, that's taboo :)

Sarah

[compar]

Shawn's given us a whole section of the forum to ask for help: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=25

but as for asking for direct assistance, that's taboo :)

Sarah
Nothing is taboo. If you don't ask the answer is always "no", but if you do ask there is some chance -- maybe slim, but still a chance -- that the answer maybe "yes".

[sarahk]

You'll be thrilled to know that there are 2750 sites waiting review for the DMOZ category you're best suited to. Want to get listed? become an editor!

[compar]

You'll be thrilled to know that there are 2750 sites waiting review for the DMOZ category you're best suited to. Want to get listed? become an editor!
I was an editor years ago. But you shouldn't have to be an editor to get listed. Anyway this isn't the place for a DMOZ debate.

[Foxy]

Caryl I have put up 14 new domain links and PMd you with the IPs etc.

Lets see if what is happening here will make a difference. Thanks everybody :)

[mcdar]

Thanks to all those who have contacted me so far! :)

We have new links from 23 additional IP addresses, as of this AM.

As tracking these new, additional, links will be a bit much to add to the daily report, that information can be found by following the link to the complete report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm) in the daily update.

Keep - em - coming!

Again, if you are interested in helping...
Please copy and paste this link:
<a href="http://www.mcdar.com/camping1/sleeping-bags.htm">sleeping bags</a>

and contact me via Private Message or email to experiment@mcdar.com and let me know the url of the link to us and the url and anchor text of the link/s you would like in return.

Caryl

[T0PS3O]

Slightly Off-Topic:

Have you noticed any increase in traffic or sales from all this experimenting?

[T0PS3O]

To check host affiliation, the IP reporting is a good thing IMO.

I thought of another thing though. We don't know whether G algo actually weighs it in but maybe you could add a column to your excel next to the IP with a 1 - 5 rating of relevancy as assumed by the link-er. With that I mean the source page's semantic relevancy to the linkee's page and chosen anchor text. In a month's time you could check the 'links reported' against their relevancy rating and maybe see something interesting.

Just some ideas in an attempt to further strike out some question marks regarding this experiment although I do realize it adds even more variables to what is already a complex test.

[mcdar]

Slightly Off-Topic:

Have you noticed any increase in traffic or sales from all this experimenting?

Short answer - No!

Long answer - The best position, to date, for this page has been page two in the results. It was there for a total of 6 days in April and then again for about half of May ( as can be seen in the Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm) ). Other than that it has been page 3 to page 30 and then gone.

It's a competitive Keyword and not too many folks venture past the first page of the results and adsense ads, I'm afraid.

I chose this keyword for the experiment because I had tried since Florida to get it back up i the serps. My main page used to be in position #23 (pre-Fla), the best I could ever recover that page was about position #220.

Since Fla, Google seemed to put a high focus on links and more specifically to ANCHOR TEXT. My main page had too many assorted links to turn the anchor text around. So, I decided to try to attack the keyword with a brand new page.

Making some money would have been GREAT, but this has truely been just pure research.

Caryl

FYI: The page did reach #3 for the keywords in Yahoo! and stayed there for a month or more. For that total time, Yahoo sent about 14 hits my way. Pitiful!!!!!

[mcdar]

To check host affiliation, the IP reporting is a good thing IMO.

I thought of another thing though. We don't know whether G algo actually weighs it in but maybe you could add a column to your excel next to the IP with a 1 - 5 rating of relevancy as assumed by the link-er. With that I mean the source page's semantic relevancy to the linkee's page and chosen anchor text. In a month's time you could check the 'links reported' against their relevancy rating and maybe see something interesting.

Just some ideas in an attempt to further strike out some question marks regarding this experiment although I do realize it adds even more variables to what is already a complex test.

This is an interesting concept BUT would leave too much to speculation and conjecture. We can actually measure, by Googles report, whether a page is reported or not. (that is fact)

There are a great many reasons why a page may not come up in a link:... search on Google. Since many of the pages donating links are of lower PR value, it could simply be that Google had not found the link yet.

We have made every effort to base this experiment on cold hard data we have gathered and not add our biases to the results.

We could have made many claims so far and had data to back it up. But, consideration of Googles state of instability at the time, reduced our evidence to poor at best and any claims would have been pure speculation (if not dead wrong).

Example: Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures on 7/21/2004. On 7/26/2004 the page went from position #315 to position #34. Based on those spectacular results, we could have said Signature links lend great weight to your linking strategy! THAT would have been dead wrong!

Truth is, looking at Googles condition at the time, reports on other forum posts, and rank pulse it was very obvious that the results we witness were Googles doing and NOT the signature links.

If I have learned anything from this experiment, it would be to look at every report of anyones experiment with very critical eyes. It is easy to imply cause and effect IF you eliminate or neglect many variables.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
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PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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~ Highest Position Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #N/A

[mcdar]

Googlebot spidered the experiment page this AM:

2004-08-20 03:45:12 64.68.82.189 - 208.184.21.219 80 GET /camping1/sleeping-bags.htm - 200 20698 237 261 HTTP/1.0 www.mcdar.com Googlebot/2.1+(+http://www.google.com/bot.html)

Time will tell if the cache gets updated from June 22nd as a result.

[TLDTrader.com]

Caryl, all links are up.

Twenty links from a single domain, non-relevant site. Home page is a PR6.

Will send PM regarding URLs.

Thanks.

[compar]

The Cached date showing for the experimental page is now 20 Aug 2004 03:45:12 GMT.

Let's hope this is a sign of the page being on the road back.

[mcdar]

Well, I checked earlier this AM and everything was the same. I just varified the cache and indeed it had been updated!

SO - I checked the position in the search results and...

GUESS WHAT.....

POSITION for the page is now is back i the 40s - 50s range!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will do a daily report now.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Position Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #N/A

[compar]

Well, I checked earlier this AM and everything was the same. I just varified the cache and indeed it had been updated!

I wouldn't lie to you Caryl :D

Simply amazing though. We will have to wait a few days to see where it stabilizes and then try and do some sort of analysis of what the hell happened?

[Arnica]

Is this similar to the situation that other forum members have reported (newcomputer I think) about their pages dropping off the SERPs? Seems like Google sometimes just 'forgets' about some pages - at least in these last few unfathomable months.

Good to see the page back in the thick of it.

Mick

[compar]

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date

Now that's a funny stat. Obviously this search isn't working any more. I personally think we should drop it from the results.

[mcdar]

Ooooooops!

Sorry, I forgot that one! :o

I'll have to let the go as we have already moved up in the serps again to #15 - #23 range. :D :D :D

The sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa has us at #21 at the moment.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/03/2004 [15 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #49, 10 DCs #50, 7 DCs #52] ***
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/04/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 4 DCs #45, 7 DCs #46, 2 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/05/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 11 DCs #48, 2 DCs #53] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/06/2004 [12 DCs #Not Found, 6 DCs #47, 5 DCs #48, 2 DCs #50, 5 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/07/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #46, 11 DCs #47, 4 DCs #48] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/08/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/09/2004 [14 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #48, 11 DCs #50, 4 DCs #51] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #8 - 08/11/2004 [16 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #47, 9 DCs #49, 4 DCs #50] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/12/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #54, 7 DCs #57, 4 DCs #58] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

83 - 7/29/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/07/2004
80 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3440 - 8/02/2004
3460 - 8/03/2004
3960 - 8/04/2004
3910 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3840 - 8/07/2004
3720 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

167 - 8/02/2004
161 - 8/03/2004
158 - 8/04/2004
154 - 8/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 8/07/2004
155 - 8/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
173 - 8/12/2004
207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Position Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #22

[compar]

I only have one reaction. "Holy Jesus"

Where in the name of Google has the page been for the last two months? I told you that MFSE was broken.

[Foxy]

I only have one reaction. "Holy Jesus"

Where in the name of Google has the page been for the last two months? I told you that MFSE was broken.

The Irish say that a little differently "Holy F..." but it means the same.

Its that Goodle Button! :D

[mcdar]

Yes, it seems that Google simply FORGOT about this page!!!

Once the cache was updated, it was back in the game.

NOTE: if it was not for Googles new feature of adding the cache date to the view of the cached page, I would not have discovered this.

Amazingly enough, until June 22nd, this page had more external links pointing to it than any other page on the site - and Google FORGOT to update the cache!!!!!

This is worth spreading the word about.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 26 DCs #21] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Position Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #21

[mcdar]

Now - One interesting question will be to see if the Sept. Backlink Update more resembles the results of the June 22 Update or the August update totals for this page!

Certainly, some of our new supporters should show up in the September Update (I would hope), BUT, will we see a big improvement to the other, long standing backlinks reported???

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3750 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #15

[Foxy]

So was it the extra links from a spread of domains or the cache update? :)

[l0cke]

Amazing what a few links can do ;). Could you add PR to each of the links on the supporters page?

[mcdar]

Most of the improvement we have seen thus far must be from just getting spidered again!

I am going to try and find out right now how many of the new links we have acquired been found by Google.

I'll report back when I'm done. - it will take me a while!

[mcdar]

Amazing what a few links can do ;). Could you add PR to each of the links on the supporters page?


PR has been added to the Supporters page. ;)

[mcdar]

I have just checked and found (using site:www.*site*.*** +sleeping bags) that 9 of the new pages with links to the page have been spidered by Google.

[mopacfan]

I'm seeing substantal improvement in my serps for the links I've been 'trading' for as well. I am really a believer in the non-reciprocal link building via blogs. It really seems to be working well.

[Foxy]

I have just checked and found (using site:www.*site*.*** +sleeping bags) that 9 of the new pages with links to the page have been spidered by Google.

I was just doing a check on my sites and all but three are showing - so that is 11 plus I had other original 2 on the ski site [3 showing] and 2 on another 2 sites making 15 links from us

PS there seems to be a problem with the PR as most of our sites are 4 or 5 :)

[mcdar]

Foxy,

One link you gave gifts-ok.com seems to be a dead link???

My Google toolbar is showing your sites with no PR. I wonder what is up with that????

[T0PS3O]

About the cacheing and 'forgetting'...

i just noticed how G deleted a cache of a page and went back to the one from Aug 10th. Why? :S No idea. It has visited this page during the last few days because I added some stuff to it, including some unique links to other new pages and these new ones have been cached and indexed. I ahve seen a proper recent cache of this page yesterday I think, it was showing the added stuff and the new link.

Very very strange.

And BTW:

There is more weird stuff going on here. The page is PR4, has about 200 outgoing links bleeding all PR away (don't care) to different IP pages. So PR4 but with only 1 reported link coming in (PR4) and in reality another 1 coming in (currently PR0'ed for unknown reasons).

Explain that with Bob's tables! Not that I doubt those PR calculations, i just doubt Google accuracy/consistancy/precision. It's a mess!

[Foxy]

One link you gave gifts-ok.com seems to be a dead link???

Yeah the silly bastards where I have/had it wouldn't move the hosting block address and it ran out of renewal time at the weekend - I am now trying to get them to unlock it and I will move it to my own hosting. But they are not hurrying!!! Expect it back this week sometime - I have another couple new domains due today or tomorrow and will let you know.

In the meantime the other sites are still showing on KWT with solid 4s etc

[Foxy]

There is more weird stuff going on here. The page is PR4, has about 200 outgoing links bleeding all PR away (don't care) to different IP pages. So PR4 but with only 1 reported link coming in (PR4) and in reality another 1 coming in (currently PR0'ed for unknown reasons).


Tops30 I keep banging away at this in that I believe they have changed the IBL OBL balance some time back [May] and if you look at uncompetetive terms [weber bbqs] you see this forum there at 1+2 with only OBLs - there are other instances like yours that seem to add credence to this thought.

It does not mean that you slam up a page with all outgoing links and you will get a benefit but there is definitely something going on there :)

[T0PS3O]

I have actually considered exclusing this page from robot visits because the links must be worth nothing and it does actually outperform the real product pages on the odd keyphrase which annoys me. There is literally no text there, just links.

OBL's can't count for PR of this page so the only way I can imagine is with LocalRank benefits.

It pisses me off at times all this crap. Especially when a page you optimize remains no where to be seen and a page you don't care about does show up!

I wish they wiped their databases, reviewed the algo and started again from scratch. How can those 4 billion pages NOT turn in to a unmanageale heap of shite? Surely, even a supercomputer must loose track of what is what when and where exactly.
I'm probably having a bad day... (after not being able to log on to DP for 48hrs)

[mcdar]

I have also just noticed that the page ranks...

Yahoo!: Position #9

AllTheWeb: Position #10

MSN: Position #8

HotBot: Position #9

I am not certain about the others BUT the experiment page was gone from Yahoo as well until it showed updated cache in Google!

That is too wierd.

Note: with all of this you would think that one of these SEs would send a referral today. Not a one ( for sleeping bags - that is)

[leeds1]

Tops30 I keep banging away at this in that I believe they have changed the IBL OBL balance some time back [May] and if you look at uncompetetive terms [weber bbqs] you see this forum there at 1+2 with only OBLs - there are other instances like yours that seem to add credence to this thought.

It does not mean that you slam up a page with all outgoing links and you will get a benefit but there is definitely something going on there :)


Interesting - so how many outbounds should you have - and to where ?

[Foxy]

Interesting - so how many outbounds should you have - and to where ?

Lol ..... F..... if I know!

Leeds1 go and look at the "weber bbqs" thing by searching and troll down and see all the entries that are attributed back to forum signatures etc - when you get to about 25 you will see one of our sites with a page that I banged up with 1 IBL and only a few OBLs and an iframe to boot. The original page with IBLs like this experiment was is nowhere to be seen.

Let us know what you think :)

[mcdar]

I would NOT be so quick to draw conclusions.

We just did 3 things almost simultaneouly!

1. re-cache of page
2. new inbound links from different IPs
3. new outbound links on experiment page.

It would be NOT be prudent to conclude that any one of these things alone was THE reason for the "ressurection".

Now with that said...
leeds1 try some outbounds on your page and let us know if you get some positive results ;)

Caryl

[Foxy]

I would NOT be so quick to draw conclusions.

We just did 3 things almost simultaneouly!

1. re-cache of page
2. new inbound links from different IPs
3. new outbound links on experiment page.

It would be NOT be prudent to conclude that any one of these things alone was THE reason for the "ressurection".

Now with that said...
leeds1 try some outbounds on your page and let us know if you get some positive results ;)

Caryl

I quite agree with this post - see what you can do leeds1

[leeds1]

Well .....

I did have some great outbounds, google :), yahoo, business.com, #1 competitor, amazon links to books on my topic....and...nothing.

So, I have taken them all off now - so let's see !

[leeds1]

ps, and one of my buddies who has a site in a different industry ranks #2 for 4m results (highly competitive) and NO outbounds on the home page

pps, I do have loads of good outbounds on my links page (sorry, web directory)

[Foxy]

ps, and one of my buddies who has a site in a different industry ranks #2 for 4m results (highly competitive) and NO outbounds on the home page

pps, I do have loads of good outbounds on my links page (sorry, web directory)

Yep - I'm not quite sure that it is as simple as that - I have a sneaking feeling that it needs to be dynamically generated - more specifically php as a blog or forum.

I have had some php "groupings" within html sites doing very well

[Foxy]

I've added a couple more domains that came on line today - let you know details tomorrow - hopefully G will be there tonight to find them - 1 IBL only

[leeds1]

Yep - I'm not quite sure that it is as simple as that - I have a sneaking feeling that it needs to be dynamically generated - more specifically php as a blog or forum.

I have had some php "groupings" within html sites doing very well

I don't understand this

His site is static HTML

[Foxy]

I don't understand this

His site is static HTML

Actually they are not - they just seem that way :)

[leeds1]

oooooo - how do you know who it is ?

I'll ask him and let you know

[Foxy]

oooooo - how do you know who it is ?

I'll ask him and let you know

Sorry - I see now that you were talking about your buddies site!

[ROV]

I see the site is now coming in at #16 for sleeping bag.

Sleeping bag only appears in the alt image tag as far as I can see.

[leeds1]

but foxy you were correct :

built from a few php include statements - effectively, the pages approximately divided into header, footer, nav, content

my no o/b links page should be on G tomorrow

Ive added some government related links now so let's wait for Friday for that

[compar]

I see the site is now coming in at #16 for sleeping bag.

Sleeping bag only appears in the alt image tag as far as I can see.
That's just Google doing it's stemming. If you use the plural Google will also rank you for the singular and vice versa. In fact some times you will rank higher for the form of the word you don't use.

What this shows is that you can rank well without out ranking anywhere for allinanchor: If you see sites in the top ten with McDar's tool that have no allinanchor: ranking it ususally means the are optimized for a different form of the word.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[Foxy]

but foxy you were correct :

built from a few php include statements - effectively, the pages approximately divided into header, footer, nav, content

my no o/b links page should be on G tomorrow

Ive added some government related links now so let's wait for Friday for that

Look forward to it :)

[compar]

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")
Yes and you know what happens on a honeymoon, that's what happened to this site for the last two months. :D

[leeds1]

OK, here are the results with no outbound links

no change on serps (some have moved up but I did a little seo as well)

New authority links added yesterday so we should see the results tomorrow I hope

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
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Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/13/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #53, 8 DCs #54, 3 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/14/2004 [18 DCs #Not Found, 2 DCs #52, 9 DCs #54, 2 DCs #55] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #9 - 08/15/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

79 - 8/12/2004
Unchanged from previous date
75 - 8/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3730[/COLOR] - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3690 - 8/16/2004
3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

207 - 8/13/2004
220 - 8/14/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[TLDTrader.com]

Don't you think a new or separate thread should be made "exclusively" for this experiment?

Just a thought.

Thanks.

[Foxy]

It would be interesting to know what you would call it if we did so! :)

[T0PS3O]

Only about 10% of this thread isn't about the experiment; How much more exclusivity do you need?

[leeds1]

whatever happened to the poker experiment ?

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
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Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
383 - 8/28/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #37

[compar]

Still a lot of volatility in Googles results. I see it in all the pages I monitor. It's almost like they were purposely randomizing the SERPs.

[Arnica]

Still a lot of volatility in Googles results. I see it in all the pages I monitor. It's almost like they were purposely randomizing the SERPs.Agreed Bob - I was getting used to a steady climb on most of my sites over the last two weeks only to find drops of 70 or 80 places today. It would make sense from Googles point of view in that SEOs have a more difficult job in evaluating the merits of their current strategies. But then it wouldn't be half as much fun if it was straight-forward.

Mick

[mopacfan]

Glad to see it wasn't just me. After skyrocketing to to #12 from complete obscurity, the site took a hit of -16 since Friday. :( I still think the blog links are a very effective means of boosting a site in the serps.

[schlottke]

I've seen some movement, but not really enough to be alarmed about.

[Help Desk]

Bloggin seems to be really helping me. Post in my forums (http://forums.thinkbling.com) if you are looking for somebody to post something about your site.

[Foxy]

Still a lot of volatility in Googles results. I see it in all the pages I monitor. It's almost like they were purposely randomizing the SERPs.

They are - I pointed out before the upward trend in Rank Pulse http://www.rankpulse.com/

Put a ruler on the "average" of the graphline - it is upwards.
:D

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #Not Found allinanchor: #10 - 08/16/2004 [#Not Found - In ALL Datacenters, ] ****
Unchanged from previous date
Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 8 DCs #17] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3710- 8/17/2004
3830 - 8/18/2004
3840 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

226- 8/17/2004
234 - 8/18/2004
233 - 8/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #17

[mcdar]

PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________


Well, we got Backlinks back up there. But most of the additionally counted were forum signature links!

Caryl

[TLDTrader.com]

As I've suspected before, (most)high PR links are not being shown by Google. Maybe the reason why they're showing the PR0-PR2 links instead as a sampling. During these three backlink "updates", I can't see most of my high PR pages.

[compar]

Curiouser and curiouser.

[Foxy]

As I've suspected before, (most)high PR links are not being shown by Google. Maybe the reason why they're showing the PR0-PR2 links instead as a sampling. During these three backlink "updates", I can't see most of my high PR pages.

This time around I have, likewise, being losing backlinks from high PR sites! I was getting a little concerned but am breathing easier now knowing that you are seeing the same TLDTrader

[Extranet Guy]

my backlinks have also been changing from one set of low PR sites to another, but in all cases, they totalled 42. i wonder if this is some important sign from google....

I need to go ponder the meaning of 42...

[Foxy]

Well it does get more and more strange - having dropped a bundle and no directories I am now 2times+ larger in the links [it has jumped hundreds!] - but only one directory - Excite uk

No other directories: google, yahoo, dmoz....

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[compar]

my backlinks have also been changing from one set of low PR sites to another, but in all cases, they totalled 42. i wonder if this is some important sign from google....

I need to go ponder the meaning of 42...

"42" wasn't that the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxies ultimate answer? Now all we have to do is figure out the question.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #17

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #15

[Foxy]

The allinanchor result shows that the links added on 18th August are having their affect - does it not?

[mcdar]

The allinanchor result shows that the links added on 18th August are having their affect - does it not?

It certainly seems to reflect that at least some of the links have been found in addition to the page having been re-cached.

I have high hopes that the new links, once full effect is given them, will nudge the page higher than position #14!

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #17

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[TLDTrader.com]

This time around I have, likewise, being losing backlinks from high PR sites! I was getting a little concerned but am breathing easier now knowing that you are seeing the same TLDTrader

Been seeing it for the past three backlink updates. If Google really hides high PR backlinks and decides to update PR on a quarterly basis, buying and selling of links(for PR purposes) will be affected. I think :)

[Foxy]

Been seeing it for the past three backlink updates. If Google really hides high PR backlinks and decides to update PR on a quarterly basis, buying and selling of links(for PR purposes) will be affected. I think :)

I think so too

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #48 allinanchor: #5 - 08/21/2004 [19 DCs #48, 8 DCs #49, 6 DCs #50] ****
Postion #22 allinanchor: #3 - 08/22/2004 [4 DCs #20, 5 DCs #21, 18 DCs #22, 6 DCs #24 ] ****
Postion #21 allinanchor: #3 - 08/23/2004 [4 DCs #19, 27 DCs #21] ****
Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 08/25/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 08/26/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3860 - 8/21/2004
3950 - 8/22/2004
4050 - 8/23/2004
4110 - 8/24/2004
4350 - 8/25/2004
4410 - 8/26/2004
4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

368 - 8/21/2004
374 - 8/22/2004
381 - 8/23/2004
379 - 8/24/2004
391 - 8/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#244 - 07/18/2004
#251 - 07/19/2004
#246 - 07/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#43 - 07/26/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#418 - 08/16/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#??? - 08/21/2004
#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 08/27/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4430 - 8/27/2004
4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

384 - 8/27/2004
385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #15

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[T0PS3O]

#16 ish for nearly two weeks now.

Would it be an idea to throw up an OBL to the #1 and see its effects? Perhaps now the page appears to be stable in the sub-top, localrank might have a greater effect than link popularity.

[compar]

#16 ish for nearly two weeks now.

Would it be an idea to throw up an OBL to the #1 and see its effects? Perhaps now the page appears to be stable in the sub-top, localrank might have a greater effect than link popularity.
I think that is a good idea, but what do you mean exactly "to the #1"? Thinking about it a little more I assume you mean the #1 site in the SERP. In this case why put up only one OBL why not link to the top ten?

[T0PS3O]

Yes I did mean the current #1 for the target phrase.

I think it's easier and clearer to add links one by one instead of 10 right away since this way it is easier to monitor the impact (probably?). You can always add later.

Even better would be to get a link back as well but that'd be pretty hard to accomplish I guess.

I know it worked for me adding an outgoing link to a top position page for the same phrase. Might well work for this page too.

[Foxy]

Yes I did mean the current #1 for the target phrase.

I think it's easier and clearer to add links one by one instead of 10 right away since this way it is easier to monitor the impact (probably?). You can always add later.

Even better would be to get a link back as well but that'd be pretty hard to accomplish I guess.

I know it worked for me adding an outgoing link to a top position page for the same phrase. Might well work for this page too.

This is something that was raised by PMs here a little time back, and excuse me if I didn't include you in that TOPS30, but is, in my opinion right on target.

Here is the PM I wrote on the 17/06 to schlottke:

This is what the PMs to Bob were:

Quote Bob in a Post on your thread:
I frankly don't know what the hell Google is doing at the moment. Can anyyone see any patterns in the sites that rank well?

One interesting side light is that my best ranking site in a really competitive market uses a ton of reciprocal links. The site I described above does not use reciprocal links. Very Strange. I'd really like to know what the hell is going on.

My PM to Bob:
Bob I think they have switched from inbound links to outbound links - I can't prove it yet - and I'm not sure that I want to announce it either. But that you have noticed the reciprocals working but not the inbounds as in our test with Mcdar is the first proof.

I have noticed it with mine.

The logic also would sit confortably as well - if you have a lot of smart asses out there doing the inbound link which is controllable would they do the same in reverse? Don't think so - one way outwards?

Let me know what you think.


Bobs PM Reply:
Interesting theory. That would certainly put all the people sell and buying links out of business. And it would explain some of the things I have been seeing.

Why don't we suggest to Caryl that she put anything up to 50 outbound links on her page and see what happens?

Which we did and the result is that we each have put 15 outward bound links on the two test pages pointing at a variety of relevant sites/pages.

If you look at your navigation on your index page it says "wrestling singlets" which takes you to a page that says in its title "Wrestling Shoes and Gear : Wrestling Headgear : Singlets : Singlets" and if you look on that page you have "singlets" in the nav as an outward bound link.

If you look at kneepads it is a repeat.

Now there are two things here one OBL, and two, that which is on the receiving page - in other words, in the latter case, Google is looking at what is at the other end in the text [title as well] and the navs. [Bob doesn't believe this part yet as he says it takes up too much computing power - but I think with your site I am seeing a good example of it]

So please feel free to talk with Bob and Caryl about it but I would appreciate it not being spoken freely and openly.


So now it is open - and open for comment :)

[T0PS3O]

I was stuck with one in-its-own-right competitive keyword, added an OBL to an authority and moved a few within days. Same with other quick tests. A more thorough setup on a brand new page has fetched #1 steady position instantaneously with a ton of authority OBLs.

I'd like to see its effects on the sleeping bags page to confirm or overrule these thoughts.

[Dominic]

Dito TOPS30.

[leeds1]

very interesting

Remember I had 3 OBLs up then took them down - ranking effect zero

2 days ago I added FIVE obls - ranking effect - zero - page cached today

Links were to 3 govent related sites, 1 commercial related and 1 industry commercially related - the first 3 were for small businesses rather than what I am doing - this may be why no change in serps ?

[Foxy]

Now DPforum is a authority site......on Weber BBQs hehehe :D ....so I am going to link back to that thread from the highest achieving page ;)

[mcdar]

I really don't understand the theory here, but

I added a link from the experiment page to the #1 site this AM.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #17

[mcdar]

There appears to be another Backlink update in progress!

The experiment page is seeing an increase from 457 to 566 links reported.

In a quick peek I saw many of the new links that were recently added. I will do a complete tally AFTER fishing.

Reminder:

You can view your backlink updates on all of the datacenters with this tool...

Datacenter Quick Check (http://www.mcdar.net/q-check/datatool.asp)

Caryl

[compar]

I really don't understand the theory here, but

I added a link from the experiment page to the #1 site this AM.

Caryl
Have you read the Local Rank or Hilltop papers? That is were the authority site concept comes from.

Here are the URLs:
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/%7Egeorgem/hilltop/
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=6,526,440&OS=6,526,440&RS=6,526,440

[Foxy]

Yep but also the idea of the OBLs stems from the fact that the www is an exchange of links [and I do not mean reciprocal I mean you just link and the natural progression is that people will link to you independently] - they shouldn't just go one way. So if the balance was being distorted by IBLs the natural thing to do by Google would be to upgrade the status of the OBL and it is logical that a lesser authority site would link to a higher authority.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 08/28/2004 [19 DCs #17, 12 DCs #18] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/29/2004 [5 DCs #35, 27 DCs #37] ****
Postion #37 allinanchor: #2 - 08/30/2004 [1 DCs #34, 4 DCs #35, 26 DCs #37] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 08/31/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/01/2004 [24 DCs #16, 9 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/02/2004 [19 DCs #16, 13 DCs #17] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/03/2004 [23 DCs #15, 8 DCs #16, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/12/2004 [5 DCs #16, 26 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #17

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/04/2004 [14 DCs #16, 17 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/05/2004 [6 DCs #16, 11 DCs #17, 14 DCs #18, 1 DCs #19] ****[/B]
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/12/2004 [5 DCs #16, 26 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/13/2004 [1 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 1 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****


_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

76 - 8/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
78 - 8/20/2004
Unchanged from previous date
81 - 8/24/2004
79 - 8/25/2004
80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4460 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4500 - 8/31/2004
4450 - 9/01/2004
4460 - 9/02/2004
4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

385 - 8/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
383 - 8/31/2004
380 - 9/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #19

[Foxy]

Caryl you should know that when I do

site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags
site:www.france-ok.com +sleeping Bags
site:www.franceok.com +sleeping Bags ......etc

I am showing the link from each and every one of those sites :)

[mcdar]

Hi Foxy,

Yes, many of the pages that have the new links to the experiment page have been discovered by Google. However, these have become too numerous to check and report on every day. I already spend 40 minutes every morning checking the results and updating the reports with the orginal data.

If anyone would like to volunteer to help with checking and reporting I would welcome the help. PM me.

I was delighted to see that 9 of the new links were reported on the most recent Backlink Update. I do believe that even more are actually being counted as a link to the experiment page by Google.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/06/2004 [2 DCs #11, 26 DCs #16, 3 DCs #17] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/12/2004 [5 DCs #16, 26 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/13/2004 [1 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 1 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4370 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

379 - 9/03/2004
Unchanged from previous date
360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #19

[Foxy]

Hi Foxy,

Yes, many of the pages that have the new links to the experiment page have been discovered by Google. However, these have become too numerous to check and report on every day. I already spend 40 minutes every morning checking the results and updating the reports with the orginal data.

If anyone would like to volunteer to help with checking and reporting I would welcome the help. PM me.

I was delighted to see that 9 of the new links were reported on the most recent Backlink Update. I do believe that even more are actually being counted as a link to the experiment page by Google.

Caryl

Tell me what you would want Caryl but remember I start at around 11pm SanDiego time [7am GB] :)

[mcdar]

Hi Foxy,

If you would like to help, you could do a search every day for the new links reported on the Project Supporters list.

The search would be: site:www.thedomain.com +sleeping bags for each url listed. You could email me the list and the count and I would add it to the Project Supporters list if it is too long to add to the daily report. (There is a limit to the size of a post in this forum so it may not fit in the daily report).

Let me know.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/12/2004 [5 DCs #16, 26 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/13/2004 [1 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 1 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated a total of 51 Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #19

[Foxy]

Hi Foxy,

If you would like to help, you could do a search every day for the new links reported on the Project Supporters list.

The search would be: site:www.thedomain.com +sleeping bags for each url listed. You could email me the list and the count and I would add it to the Project Supporters list if it is too long to add to the daily report. (There is a limit to the size of a post in this forum so it may not fit in the daily report).

Let me know.

Caryl

Consider it done - where is the list Caryl? [I've lost it] :o

[mcdar]

Foxy,

There is a link to it in the daily report.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/07/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #15 allinanchor: #2 - 09/08/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/09/2004 [4 DCs #15, 28 DCs #16] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/10/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/12/2004 [5 DCs #16, 26 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/13/2004 [1 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 1 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #19

[mcdar]

Hi All,

Please note a new addition to the daily report...

__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
__________________


Thanks to Foxy, we will now have this detailed information to support our experiment!!!!!

Thanks Foxy for volunteering to help :D

Please note where you can find this in the daily report.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/12/2004 [5 DCs #16, 26 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/13/2004 [1 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 1 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #19

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/11/2004 [4 DCs #16, 28 DCs #17] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/12/2004 [5 DCs #16, 26 DCs #17, 1 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/13/2004 [1 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 1 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****[/B]
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004 [/b]
77 - 9/22/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #20

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/13/2004 [1 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 1 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004 [/b]
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/14/2004 [4 DCs #17, 27 DCs #19, 1 DCs #22] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004 [/b]
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[DarrenC]

Excellent post! I've just spent nearly all afternoon reading it through :D

Even though you use the KW's 'sleeping bags' on page - would it benefit more by having a paragraph or so of the types of sleeping bags on offer - again using the KW's within the content?

Looking at the most recent results it appears that either though that allinanchor is important they are many other factors which are taken into consideration. So what are these factors?

Really interesting experiment!

Darren :)

[mcdar]

Hi Darren, Welcome!

That is an idea that we can consider once we are reasonably sure that we have moved as close as we are goig to, with our recently added links.

Thanks,
Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004 [/b]
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #19

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/15/2004 [31 DCs #19, 1 DCs #21] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/16/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #31] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004 [/b]
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #17

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/17/2004 [1 DCs #18, 31 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

80 - 8/26/2004
81 - 8/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
79 - 9/02/2004
Unchanged from previous date
77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004 [/b]
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

360 - 9/07/2004
351 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
349 - 9/11/2004
348 - 9/12/2004
345 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #16

[compar]

Even though you use the KW's 'sleeping bags' on page - would it benefit more by having a paragraph or so of the types of sleeping bags on offer - again using the KW's within the content?
Darren :)
I've always felt that that was an improvement that could be made to this page. To the degree that page content has an influence on SERPs I agree this page needs a couple of paragraphs -- 250 to 350 words -- talking about sleeping bags, and what can be found on the page, and why one should buy from this site.

[Foxy]

The need or otherwise for on page SEO on this page is something that would be more dramatic in time after all else has failed or otherwise. Like Compar I believe that we can do something here but we should wait.

......and just by the by this is my 1000th :D

[compar]

......and just by the by this is my 1000th :D
What the hell took you so long :) Congratulations, you've made a good contribution along the way.

[Foxy]

What the hell took you so long :) Congratulations, you've made a good contribution along the way.

Thanks Bob, nice comments...appreciated - What took me so long?.... I can't keep up with you powerpeople.

That being said I'm building a 200 seater restaurant at the same time which tends to take up a bit of my time!!! :D

[T0PS3O]

I had a look on your restaurants site but can't remember all of it. It must have been under construction just like the restaurant itself... When will it be finished and what food will you serve? I might include a visit to you in one of my near-future coastal trips. It's not too far from Surbiton to do Brighton/Portsmouth/Bournemouth tours.

[Foxy]

I had a look on your restaurants site but can't remember all of it. It must have been under construction just like the restaurant itself... When will it be finished and what food will you serve? I might include a visit to you in one of my near-future coastal trips. It's not too far from Surbiton to do Brighton/Portsmouth/Bournemouth tours.

Ok - your on...the website for the restaurant has been up but on hold [we don't want to give away too much to others before opening] as we waited for planning - it took 9 months - what a hassle. We have a few things to get done now and then we will bring it together..will keep you advised when.

Basically the menu is all about natural food and regional produce taking direct from local farms and cooking to British and Commonwealth Recipes.

There will be Classic dishes as well as Contemporary and all will be available to go in various ways eg hot, chilled etc. everything wll be made on the premises from scratch including the bread. :D

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150[/COLOR] - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150[/COLOR] - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/18/2004 [28 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/19/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/30/2004 [4 DCs #17, 28 DCs #18] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
80 - 9/30/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4270 - 9/07/2004
4240 - 9/08/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4260 - 9/11/2004
4250 - 9/12/2004
4150 - 9/13/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150[/COLOR] - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3250 - 9/30/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
317 - 9/30/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #18

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/30/2004 [4 DCs #17, 28 DCs #18] ****
Postion #24 allinanchor: #2 - 10/01/2004 [4 DCs #23, 28 DCs #24] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
80 - 9/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3250 - 9/30/2004
3070 - 10/01/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
317 - 9/30/2004
311 - 10/01/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #24

[TLDTrader.com]

So what have we learned so far from this experiment?

Thanks.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/20/2004 [27 DCs #19, 5 DCs #20] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 09/21/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #20 allinanchor: #2 - 09/22/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/23/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/30/2004 [4 DCs #17, 28 DCs #18] ****
Postion #24 allinanchor: #2 - 10/01/2004 [4 DCs #23, 28 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/02/2004 [2 DCs #21, 5 DCs #22, 19 DCs #23, 6 DCs #24] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
80 - 9/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3250 - 9/30/2004
3070 - 10/01/2004
3090 - 10/02/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
317 - 9/30/2004
311 - 10/01/2004
314 - 10/02/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #22

[TLDTrader.com]

I already removed the links on my pages. So you can remove my name from the supporters list.

I sent PM regarding this yesterday but got no reply.

Good Luck.

[compar]

I already removed the links on my pages. So you can remove my name from the supporters list.

I sent PM regarding this yesterday but got no reply.

Good Luck.
Why did you do that?

I saw your question about what we have learned, but I'm not sure I have a really good answer. However this latest improvement in the pages ranking did seem to take place after you and others put up single links to the page all from different IPs. So it may be safe to conclude at least that Google is devaluing multipe links from a single IP or IP block.

The interesting thing in all of this is that none of the links to this page have ever been from related or relevant pages. So I think it is fair to conclude that you can do fairly well with nonrelevant links. It would be really interesting to find and put up 10 or 20 backlinks from truly relevant pages. But I'm not sure where we would get them.

The other thing I think we have learned is that Google over the last few months has been totally irratic and unpredictable. I'm arguing that Google is, or has been, broken, on another thread on this forum. Look at the Google update thread if you are interested in that argument.

I hope this help a bit. Maybe Foxy or McDar would like to add to this.

[TLDTrader.com]

Bob, thanks a lot for shedding a little bit of light regarding the experiment. I just don't understand all those numbers.

Yes, it would be nice if Foxy and Caryl can share some of their thoughts regarding the experiment. I know that we are not in the position to make final conclusions right now. But some general observations, like the ones you mentioned, are sure welcome.

I just might consider putting the links back. :)

Once again, thanks Bob.

[Foxy]

Hi TLDtrader

Sorry I did not get back to you when you first posted but unfortunately I had a VERY heavy end of last week and went away at the weekend so I put it down to answer today.

Like Bob I feel it would be safe to assume that links from one IP or IP block are being devalued but I think that it is more than that, in that the linking from one IP or IP block is harming the SERPs of the page - when the spread of domains came in the page immediately moved upward negating part of the effect.

We have also looked at OBLs and at this point in time have come to no conclusions.

However the real problem in all of this is the erratic performance of Google. One of the things that I have done is to run a "control" using the "weber bbqs", as this is not a very competitive phrase and as such should give clues as to what can be discarded as a test. One of the original companies has moved from >1000 to 1 +2 in this last week for the term "bbqs" - now if it was not relevant last week why is it relevant today? [I'm not denying that the result is OK just why it did not feature before?

I know you will say that it is to do with what they, the site, have done....but the answer is that they have not done anything - the page is from a catalog/shopping cart and here is the analysis from McDars Tool:

Position and url
Pages in site
Links
allinanchor position
Yahoo Links

1. www.barbecue-online.co.uk
787
0
7
1630

2. www.vegsoc.org
2190
0
13
24800

3. comparestoreprices.co.uk
229000
34
3
11200

4. www.ciao.co.uk
423000
0
23
5970000

5. www.ciao.co.uk
423000
4
24
5970000

6. www.bbc.co.uk
487000
1
18
6650000

7. www.costco.com
33200
0
19
33300

8. www.agl.com.au
756
0
25
1490

9. www.londinium.com
8840
0
17
13000

10. shopping.xtramsn.co.nz
15400
0
226000

Look how many are without links! Also for the record about half have zero PR.

Now as a SE is supposed to be objective and rational then Google should follow that....but it doesn't :)

[TLDTrader.com]

Your results showed that Google is really broken.

Zero backlinks and zero PR. I have no problem with PR0, but to have both at the same time. Google is very broken :)

When one agrees that Google is broken, there's no use explaining the Mcdar experiment results. We are playing a game without knowing the rules. Besides, the rules are erratic and seems to be changing continuosly.

Thanks.

[leeds1]

Where you say "links" are these Google inbound links ? coz you know G doesn't report most..hence the yahoo listing

[Foxy]

Your results showed that Google is really broken.

Zero backlinks and zero PR. I have no problem with PR0, but to have both at the same time. Google is very broken :)

When one agrees that Google is broken, there's no use explaining the Mcdar experiment results. We are playing a game without knowing the rules. Besides, the rules are erratic and seems to be changing continuosly.

Thanks.

Yep but the experiment is worth continuing with - as each stage develops or not we gain an insite to which way we think they are subjectively taking Google. :)

[compar]

Your results showed that Google is really broken.

You had better be careful making that statement. If Shawn or VS or Minstrel find it they will shit all over you. If you don't believe me look at what they did to me when I made that claim on this thread. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=3631

[nadlay]

The PR0 and zero link pages quoted in the example above are internal pages of sites with high PR home pages.

Perhaps another example of the effect I mentioned a few weeks ago of PR influence being a 2 part thing now - site PR and page PR ?

[mcdar]

Hi Folks,

I apologize for not being very visible the last week or so, but have been VERY busy!

I have tried to check in a little in an attempt to follow the "Google is broken" thread but did not feel I was in a position to contribute much.

Regarding our on-going experiment, you may all find today's results to be of particular interest. I had to do a double take when I saw the results on the first block of datacenters.

I do not have an explanation for the sudden positive leep. BUT, this just adds to the debate.

Although, I am happy with this new position, I certainly would NOT conclude that Google is now getting "better" or "un-broke". As a result of what we have witnessed over the duration of this experiment, it would NOT surprise me to see the results tomorrow go back to position #100. That is a sad statement regarding Googles stability.

I do believe though, that people who do have good placement in the results tend to be those with good positions and those struggling tend more towards the broke theory. This opinion is, of course, a generality.

Caryl

[mcdar]

TLD,

I apologize for the delay in responding to you, but in my defense, it was the weekend and I do tend to try to get some R and R on the weekends.

I did recieve your PM and did read your post. I have removed you from the Link Donors page. Thank you for your contribution.

Caryl

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/30/2004 [4 DCs #17, 28 DCs #18] ****
Postion #24 allinanchor: #2 - 10/01/2004 [4 DCs #23, 28 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/02/2004 [2 DCs #21, 5 DCs #22, 19 DCs #23, 6 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/03/2004 [3 DCs #22, 29 DCs #23] ****
Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
80 - 9/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3250 - 9/30/2004
3070 - 10/01/2004
3090 - 10/02/2004[/B]
3020 - 10/03/2004
2990 - 10/04/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
317 - 9/30/2004
311 - 10/01/2004
314 - 10/02/2004[/B]
316 - 10/03/2004
318 - 10/04/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
Unreported from previous date
133 - 10/04/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #11

[TLDTrader.com]

Nice to hear from you Caryl. And nice to see the experiment page making positive gains.

Regards.

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/24/2004 [2 DCs #17, 26 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/25/2004 [7 DCs #17, 21 DCs #18, 4 DCs #19] ****
Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/30/2004 [4 DCs #17, 28 DCs #18] ****
Postion #24 allinanchor: #2 - 10/01/2004 [4 DCs #23, 28 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/02/2004 [2 DCs #21, 5 DCs #22, 19 DCs #23, 6 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/03/2004 [3 DCs #22, 29 DCs #23] ****
Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 10/05/2004 [2 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18, 26 DCs #19, 2 DCs #21] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
80 - 9/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3250 - 9/30/2004
3070 - 10/01/2004
3090 - 10/02/2004[/B]
3020 - 10/03/2004
2990 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
317 - 9/30/2004
311 - 10/01/2004
314 - 10/02/2004
316 - 10/03/2004
318 - 10/04/2004
317 - 10/05/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
Unreported from previous date
133 - 10/04/2004
129 - 10/05/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #19

[Nitin M]

Has anyone volunteered to use some of their ad network inventory to aid in this experiment?

If not, I'd be willing to do so.

It seems to me the biggest "problem" with this attempt to rank #1 for "sleeping bags" is the lack of diversity in the sources for the backlinks. I think the ad network would resolve this.

My experience with the ad network is that we would have to let it sit for about 2-3 weeks to see the results ... if this is desired, let me know.

I haven't kept up with this thread in the past couple of months so not sure if the ad network has already been tried on this.

Let me know...

[Foxy]

Has anyone volunteered to use some of their ad network inventory to aid in this experiment?

If not, I'd be willing to do so.

It seems to me the biggest "problem" with this attempt to rank #1 for "sleeping bags" is the lack of diversity in the sources for the backlinks. I think the ad network would resolve this.

My experience with the ad network is that we would have to let it sit for about 2-3 weeks to see the results ... if this is desired, let me know.

I haven't kept up with this thread in the past couple of months so not sure if the ad network has already been tried on this.

Let me know...

Nice idea - the spread of the link domains does seem to be emerging as a key factor

[sadcox66]

Has anyone volunteered to use some of their ad network inventory to aid in this experiment?


Can anyone send me a link (or PM) about what an ad network is, so that I can follow the conversation. The google search I did located valueClick, FastClick etc., but I cannot put 2+2 together and see how they can be used for SEO.

[T0PS3O]

It's Digitalpoint.com's Coop Ad network.

[Foxy]

Can anyone send me a link (or PM) about what an ad network is, so that I can follow the conversation. The google search I did located valueClick, FastClick etc., but I cannot put 2+2 together and see how they can be used for SEO.

You have a very appropriate name sadcox for such a sad question!

Here on this forum is a whole section about it

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

and if you go to

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/

you will find out more

Sad ....just sad.... :D

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/30/2004 [4 DCs #17, 28 DCs #18] ****
Postion #24 allinanchor: #2 - 10/01/2004 [4 DCs #23, 28 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/02/2004 [2 DCs #21, 5 DCs #22, 19 DCs #23, 6 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/03/2004 [3 DCs #22, 29 DCs #23] ****
Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 10/05/2004 [2 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18, 26 DCs #19, 2 DCs #21] ****
Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
80 - 9/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

4140 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
4150 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3250 - 9/30/2004
3070 - 10/01/2004
3090 - 10/02/2004[/B]
3020 - 10/03/2004
2990 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2870 - 10/06/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

340 - 9/15/2004
Unchanged from previous date
335 - 9/18/2004
Unchanged from previous date
327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
317 - 9/30/2004
311 - 10/01/2004
314 - 10/02/2004
316 - 10/03/2004
318 - 10/04/2004
317 - 10/05/2004
319 - 10/06/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
Unreported from previous date
133 - 10/04/2004
129 - 10/05/2004
170 - 10/06/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #10

[T0PS3O]

Hmmm... Quite a jump!

Let's see if it holds... Anything changed recently that can be the cause of this? Not jumping the conclusions of course....

[Foxy]

Hmmm... Quite a jump!

Let's see if it holds... Anything changed recently that can be the cause of this? Not jumping the conclusions of course....

Look at this

http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm

Follows..... :)

[mcdar]

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**29 DCs are NOT responding**
***27 DCs are NOT responding**
****32 DCs are NOT responding**

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report (http://www.mcdar.net/update.htm)
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #17 allinanchor: #2 - 09/26/2004 [2 DCs #16, 25 DCs #17, 5 DCs #18] ****
Postion #16 allinanchor: #2 - 09/27/2004 [28 DCs #16, 4 DCs #17] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/28/2004 [12 DCs #17, 20 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/29/2004 [3 DCs #17, 29 DCs #18] ****
Postion #18 allinanchor: #2 - 09/30/2004 [4 DCs #17, 28 DCs #18] ****
Postion #24 allinanchor: #2 - 10/01/2004 [4 DCs #23, 28 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/02/2004 [2 DCs #21, 5 DCs #22, 19 DCs #23, 6 DCs #24] ****
Postion #23 allinanchor: #2 - 10/03/2004 [3 DCs #22, 29 DCs #23] ****
Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****
Postion #19 allinanchor: #2 - 10/05/2004 [2 DCs #17, 2 DCs #18, 26 DCs #19, 2 DCs #21] ****
Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/06/2004 [All Datacenters] ****
Postion #10 allinanchor: #2 - 10/07/2004 [1 DC #9, 29 DCs #10, 2 DCs #11] ****
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

77 - 9/11/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/21/2004
77 - 9/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
80 - 9/28/2004
79 - 9/29/2004
80 - 9/30/2004
Unchanged from previous date
101 - 10/03/2004
102 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004

3420 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3250 - 9/30/2004
3070 - 10/01/2004
3090 - 10/02/2004[/B]
3020 - 10/03/2004
2990 - 10/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2870 - 10/06/2004
3000 - 10/08/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

327 - 9/28/2004
Unchanged from previous date
317 - 9/30/2004
311 - 10/01/2004
314 - 10/02/2004
316 - 10/03/2004
318 - 10/04/2004
317 - 10/05/2004
319 - 10/06/2004
317 - 10/07/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#22 - 08/22/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#14 - 08/24/2004
#19 - 08/26/2004
Defunct: This search no longer relevant
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters (http://www.mcdar.net/supporters.htm) donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm) (click to see full report)

192 - 09/18/2004
209 - 09/19/2004
Unchanged from previous date
212 - 09/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
214 - 09/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
226 - 09/28/2004
Unreported from previous date
133 - 10/04/2004
129 - 10/05/2004
170 - 10/06/2004
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ September 11 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
566 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 549 of 566)
20 of Caryl's links
10 of Bob's Links
9 of "August 18th" Links
480 for Digitalpoint forums
30 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 30 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
457 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 449 of 457)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
401 for Digitalpoint forums
23 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ August 9 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
85 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 84 of 85)
13 of Caryl's links
13 of Bob's Links
0 of Foxy's Links
20 for Digitalpoint forums
28 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ July 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
129 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in 113 of 129)
14 of Caryl's links
11 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
49 for Digitalpoint forums
38 for SEO Chat forums
___________

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

~ Highest Positions Attained ~

Position #15 allinanchor: #5 - 05/15/2004 [12 datacenters #19] Note: Allinanchor #6 on 12 DCs
(No signature links had been used at this point - may have been "honeymoon period")

Postion #14 allinanchor: #2 - 08/24/2004 [9 DCs #13, 21 DCs #14] ****

Postion #12 allinanchor: #2 - 10/04/2004 [10 DCs #11, 22 DCs #12] ****

__________________
Note:Google API has page at #10

[NewComputer]

Look at this

http://www.mcdar.net/SupportersDaily.htm

Follows..... :)

Hey, I wanna play too....