4 more years in Iraq

[ferret77]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9022420/

just to let you know

[Henny]

Yip yip yip yahoo. What does that matter? Why are people obsessed with timelines. BTW, we are still in Germany even though we got donw pounding the crap out of them over 50 years ago, last I checked we are still in Japan too. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[jmoney48]

i would rather be in japan than iraq

[TommyD]

i would rather be in japan than iraq

Wish we could really make choices, but wouldn't it be more ideal to be no where but the US of A?

tom

[ferret77]

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has estimated the cost of "prosecuting" a war against Iraq at up to $9 billion per month, on top of an initial outlay of up to $13 billion for the deployment of troops to the Persian Gulf region.

maybe becasue it costs 9 billion dollars a month to be there

[yo-yo]

maybe becasue it costs 9 billion dollars a month to be there

forget money, how about because 2,000 of our own people that didn't need to have died. And countless number of Iraq civilians...

[CyberBrian]

I agree with Henny, people are obsessed with timelines. We'll start pulling troops when the Iraqi forces start to grow, if it causes problems we'll bring some back and so forth.

All of this "when will we get out" and "we must get out" nonsense is a tool of some lefties who (wrongly) believe there are enough supporters out there willing to vote for someone who believes we should pull out our troops now.

[ferret77]

I'm not saying that there should be a timeline

I think most people where clueless about what could happen when we deployed troops to the middle east to build a democracy.

I think the reason so many people support the war is because they have no concept of history or knowledge of what type of conditions we would be in, or the length of time it would take to quell the insurgency.

I just want the people who supported the war to know what they bought into, to understand that it could take 10 years to finish.

Iraq is surrounded by countries full of people who hate us, insurgents are born born quicker then we can kill them, and they can keep coming across the borders forever.

[CyberBrian]

...most people where clueless about what could happen when we deployed troops to the middle east...have no concept of history or knowledge...

I totally agree. Remember that at one point over 70% of Americans though Hussein was directly invovled with 9/11. Today (last I heard) that number is still hovering around 50%. Add to that 50% the number of people that believe you have to support the President in everything he does without question and the people that believe you have to support the war to support the troops and you'll get the number of people who "support the war."

The point I was trying to make earlier, is that anyone talking seriously about pulling out now or on some kind of timeline is either increadibly ignorant/naive/etc or, more likely, is just trying to score cheap political points.

[TommyD]

I agree with Henny, people are obsessed with timelines.

I'm not obsessed with time lines. Just like many others that freak just siting through a commercial break with a broken remote, I want things done yesterday!

tom

[Solicitors Mortgages]

forget money, how about because 2,000 of our own people that didn't need to have died. And countless number of Iraq civilians...

yup..turn your back while they just gas their own people and murder torture and deny basic human rights to god knows how many others....

these kinda threads are as bad as the 'not reading adsense TOS ones'

[TommyD]

Hey these threads are useful!!!!

Don't start preaching your war monger rhetoric to us!

War Never Solved Anything!

[Except: End Slavery, Stop The Nazis, Reunify Our Country, Give US independence]

Tom ;)

[ferret77]

yup..turn your back while they just gas their own people and murder torture and deny basic human rights to god knows how many others....

That is such a load of crap, like all the war supporters really give a shit about what some backwards dictator is doing to his people on the other side of world give me break .... Saddam gased his own people when he was our friend and we were selling him guns ... and the stuff to make the gas.

Did you know that in Pakistan a woman was sentenced to be gang raped by a court

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/28/AR2005062800278.html

Thats one our allies, if what was happening to the Iraqi people upset you, then you guys must really have trouble sleeping with whats going on in sudan,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8364-2004Sep9.html

There is a freaking genocide , no word when we are going to liberate them.

Do you guys know when saddam "gased" the kurds .... like 17 years ago

[CyberBrian]

yup..turn your back while they just gas their own people and murder torture and deny basic human rights to god knows how many others....


And thats my cue to leave the conversation...

[yo-yo]

yup..turn your back while they just gas their own people and murder torture and deny basic human rights to god knows how many others....

What made it my duty or anyone elses to give their life up to go halfway across the world and start a war to save America from Saddam's fake WMDs...

The war was never about the Iraqi people or Saddam's crimes, they went to war over Saddam and Iraq's threat to the United states b/c of their WMDs that don't exist. If you deny that fact your denying reality.

Our troops and our bombs have already killed MORE innocent civillians and left more people injured, starving, homeless, in 2 years than Saddam did his entire rule. And now there's likely going to be a civil war raging in Iraq ... not to mention how much more hate the United states willing gave itself from the rest of the world.

What are we going to do, start a war with every single country that kills its own people?? We'd be invading the entire world... anyone who thinks differently is an idealist with no sense of reality. :rolleyes:

[ziya]

2005+4= 2009 . So are they really going to withdraw army ?

[sarpras2005@yahoo.co.in]

I like to see Iraq after war stop..

[eric8476]

i hope democracy stands and is not seen as a foreign "westernisation"