Review Ad Network

[anthonycea]

Shawn, why don't you review this co-op banner network for us here, because I really do not understand it at all, you created something for webmasters to use in this regard.

I have looked at the other thread and really did not gain that much understanding as to how it really works.

Can you explain it in a nutshell here in this thread, does it compete with ADSENSE, is it simply a banner program, does it trade banners from one webmasters site to the next.

Please explain in terms that a newbie could understand :o

[digitalpoint]

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/faq.html

[anthonycea]

It looks like most of your users are forum owners?

Any site that is PHP, so it is not a matter of cut and paste code for dummies to place C&P code on any page?

[compar]

It looks like most of your users are forum owners?

Any site that is PHP, so it is not a matter of cut and paste code for dummies to place C&P code on any page?
I don't think the site needs to be currently using PHP. I think the site only needs access to PHP on the host server.

Maybe that's semantics, but I think it is slightly different that what you appear to be assuming.

In my case we have PHP installed and available on our server. All I had to do essentially was a cut and paste of the code Shawn suggested and everything worked just fine.

But this has nothing to do with AdSense, so stop hijacking my thread. :mad:

[anthonycea]

Alright Bob, then why don't you start one on Shawn's program and point us to it with a link from this thread.

I think we need a fresh thread on this anyway since the old one did not really explain the "details for dummies", there are a lot of us who really do not have technical skills and are just copywriters and cut and paste artists.

Can you start a thread on the subject that explains this network to dummies?

[compar]

Alright Bob, then why don't you start one on Shawn's program and point us to it with a link from this thread.

I think we need a fresh thread on this anyway since the old one did not really explain the "details for dummies", there are a lot of us who really do not have technical skills and are just copywriters and cut and paste artists.

Can you start a thread on the subject that explains this network to dummies?
I understand the network just fine. Why don't you start the thread? I can say this however, Shawn originally said the network was only for forums and certain other users. So I guess he didn't want to be bothered with supporting, or providing details for, "dummies".

In this case this may be a situation where if you can't understand it you can't use it :p

Now get the hell of my thread :mad: :D

[digitalpoint]

Better yet, just split it into it's own thread.

[anthonycea]

Yes, but if you do not cater to dummies (BOB and SHAWN) you cut out 90% of your market.

Not every webmaster is a coder, we are not all up to the latest W3C standards.

We need intructions for dummies Compar. Bob you are good with working with idiots, just look at all the money the publishers of the instructional books made (Computers for idiots), you remember those books, I have a few of them.

Maybe you could make the theme of this thread "Instructions for the dummies that want to uses DP's Co-Op network".

I will be the first student to enroll.

Do we have any teachers, that is the question?

Remember 90% of your future users are waiting :mad:

[digitalpoint]

There are setup instructions already.

[T0PS3O]

Do the ad links showing on other people's pages have to be to the domain where you show their ads?

[anthonycea]

OK, give me the link to the instructions and I will test them to see if I (an idiot) can understand them.

If I can not figure it out I will ask the questions here in this thread and you can help me understand by your answers.

[digitalpoint]

Do the ad links showing on other people's pages have to be to the domain where you show their ads?
No, they don't.

[digitalpoint]

OK, give me the link to the instructions and I will test them to see if I (an idiot) can understand them.

If I can not figure it out I will ask the questions here in this thread and you can help me understand by your answers.
You can access the setup instructions once you have an account.

[anthonycea]

How do I know if my sites will be able to use the program, do you look at each site to see if it supports PHP before letting folks in the program?

For example look at www.realestateindustrylinks.com and tell me if this site would work with the network.

The only thing I do is cut and paste code to put banners on this site.

[digitalpoint]

No, the system does not check to see if they support PHP or not.

[compar]

Do the ad links showing on other people's pages have to be to the domain where you show their ads?
No! They do not have to be.

[compar]

Anthony,

Besides the FAQ that Shawn has puplished the link to, have you actually logged into the Coop Advertising Network (http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/) section of his web site?

I don't think anybody minds helping but I think they do mind doing all the work for someone who is too lazy to find out for himself. If you had logged into the web page you would know the answer to the type of ads involved.

A very simple overview is that if you display any one of the three ad formats on any of your pages, your ad(s) will get displayed on the pages of other people involved in the program. The number of time that they get displayed is in proportion to the number of time ads are viewed, or displayed, on your site or pages.

So to that degree it is very similiar to a banner exchange.

The ads are rotated and will change every time a page is refreshed. If you want to see this go to the bottom of any page in my InfoPool (http://infopool.compar.com) and watch the last entry in the list of links called "some links to our friends". Then hit the refresh button or the F5 key and watch the ad change every time the page refreshes.

Now if you want to see the code that runs this on my server just look at the source code for my page. Even a "dummy" like you should be able to understand that.

[anthonycea]

Thanks Bob, I will try to make some progress here to understand how this works, like I said most of the stuff we use is your standard CJ type of cut and paste crap.

I hope it this program is not too hard for a dummy like me to understand, I will check it out further and if I can't figure it out, I will simply ask another dumb question. :confused:

[disgust]

it really isn't hard at all.

there's like 4 step by step instructions- it's probably more complicated to first figure out how to ftp files or something like that.

[rickbender1940]

There are setup instructions already.

The setup instructions work for Unix hosts, there's one small edit for Windows users. The part where you have:

ini_set ("include_path", ini_get ("include_path") . ':../:../../:../../../:../../../../');

should be

ini_set ("include_path", ini_get ("include_path") . ';../;../../;../../../;../../../../');


i.e the colons replaced by semicolons. It'd make things cut-and-paste for people on Windows PHP hosts

[anthonycea]

Lets put it this way Rick and Disgust, a lot of us are like "bumps on a log" when it comes to understanding FTP and coding.

So you could preach to us forever and we would still ask "WHAT DUH", so things have to be fool proof (easy for idiots to enable) if you want folks to adopt it.

I am not saying it is hard, I have not even tried yet, but maybe some of us need step by step instructions to do things.

Jimmy Page could hand me his guitar after he hooked up the amp and tuned it and I could not play the song, same thing here.

So when you are dealing with folks with little understanding of coding you are dealing with folks with little understanding on how to build websites.

I am just asking for a step by step post from someone that has done this.

Example:

Open your account with DP co-op program.

Find out if your site is able to participate by __________________.........

Cut and paste xxxxxxxxxx then do xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Finally, if you are too dumb to do all of the above, just forget it and go get a life, you are not qualified to participate in this program.

:D :D :D

[compar]

Example:

Open your account with DP co-op program.

Find out if your site is able to participate by __________________.........

Cut and paste xxxxxxxxxx then do xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Finally, if you are too dumb to do all of the above, just forget it and go get a life, you are not qualified to participate in this program.

:D :D :D
Well it seems to me that everything in your "Example:" has been said and done, so maybe you should take the advice of your "Finally'" sentence.

[anthonycea]

Yes Bob, it seems to you, but it does not to me or any of the other newbies to the program.

Remember the meaning of the word "ASS U ME", you have assumed that we understand how to get started.................

[compar]

Yes Bob, it seems to you, but it does not to me or any of the other newbies to the program.
I don't see or hear any of the other newbies making that claim. This seem to be a one man "dummy" show to me.

But I'll take the bait.

Open your account with DP co-op program.
Read the first letter Shawn ever posted about this network. There is a link there to the login page. And a form on the page for opening an account. It does have to be a different account than the one you maybe have now to use his Keyword Tracker tools.

So asked and answered in the very first post ever written in this forum on this subject. Anthony, did you follow that link and open an account? If not how did you think you were ever going to find out about step two? You have to get off your ass and take some initiative, pople aren't going to spoon feed you all your life.

Find out if your site is able to participate by __________________.........
It has been said many many times that your server must support, or make, PHP available. It doesn't take much expertise to figure out that the way to find out if your particualr server supports PHP is to ask your hosting company. You know the guys you send your hosting payment to. How the hell would Shawn or anyone else know this? Some personal initiative is the order of the day again.

Cut and paste xxxxxxxxxx then do xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Once you have opened an account and logged in you will find rather detail instructions that fall just short of a total cut and paste to get this thing going. If you don't feel comfortable with these instructions ask your hosting company if they will implement it for you. Again a little initiative on your part and all will be revealed.

[anthonycea]

What do you charge per month to set up and host a site Bob?

Lets say I moved my site(s) to you, what would you charge to host a small site and handle the redesign of lets say: www.realestateindustrylinks.com

[compar]

What do you charge per month to set up and host a site Bob?

Lets say I moved my site(s) to you, what would you charge to host a small site and handle the redesign of lets say: www.realestateindustrylinks.com
This should probably be a private conversation, but we do everything else in public on this forum, so what the hell.

Here is the link to my hosting packages with a list of each of the services offered for three different packages. Web Hosting Services (http://www.webhostone.nu/) We would host your site under the Silver plan. Remember our prices are in Canadian dollars so you can mutiply these by .75 to convert to US Greenbacks. In other words I'd host your site for $11.24 US per month payable one year in advance.

Now as to doing any redesign, I have no idea how much redesign you have in mind, but in any case we would do this at $60 US per hour.

[anthonycea]

I will PM you when I am ready to move the site (when I have the money to move the site). :cool: