Does anyone use bullshit "for pay" directories for SEO?

[tphyahoo]

Example of "bullshit" directory:

www d o t giessennet d o t de

Seems to me very few humans would find this useful, but google will probably give such directories brownie points for being directories, so if you buy links there it could be cost effective. I'm guessing that most link buying there goes through an intermediary like espotting, but perhaps this isn't always the case.

Does anyone have a list of bullshit directories that are cost effective, or have other qualities to recommend them? Does anyone have strategies they can share concerning the use of such B.D.'s?

Appreciate any input.

thomas.

[SEbasic]

Why is it they are "BS" directories?

As long as there are direct links pointing to your site, It would be of benefit.

Without all these "BS" directories, getting links would become a lot harder for most people. Even those who tend not to use directories for links would suffer because the people that they rely on for links, might be relying on the directories.

Directories are cost effective if you can afford them. If you can't then it's not cost effective.

That particular directory would have a hard time being spidered (Just look at the URL's) so personally I wouldn't list in it. (It might be OK now, but when more subdirectories are listed, I think it might come into some problems.)

[ZanderXML]

Very good free bullshit directory - http://dmoz.org/ + http://directory.google.com/ + hundreds of other mirrors ;)

[tphyahoo]

Why is it they are "BS" directories?


I used the term BS because the official google propaganda is they want to ideally reward links that actually generate traffic. A link that generates a lot of traffic should, theoretically, count more than a link that generates very little traffic.

So, Dmoz isn't a BS directory because a lot of people actually use DMOZ, whereas computer generated directories like the one I pointed to probably get very little traffic, and only exist because SEO people use them to manipulate google.

But hey, if they work cost effectively, I agree, it definitely makes sense to use them.

Just trying to figure out the best strategy here...

Thomas.

[pcarlow]

Dmoz isn't a BS directory because a lot of people actually use DMOZ

I get little to no traffic from my DMOZ listings. The value of a dmoz listing is in the links I'm going to receive in all the mirrored directories (like Google's directory) not the traffic I receive from people clicking on them.

Just trying to figure out the best strategy here...

Buying directory links is a great strategy. It's even better if the directory allows you to choose the anchor text for your link. Make sure the directory is using URL's that are easily spidered and static links to your site before paying for a listing.

[tphyahoo]

Do a google search on "powered by myengines" and you will get some good results for german for pay directories.

Does anyone have any other tips on finding pay for play directories?

Thomas.

[Will.Spencer]

There are so many free directories (http://www.internet-search-engines-faq.com/submit-url-free-directory.shtml) and reciprocal link directories that I just cannot (personally) imagine signing up for a pay directory.

[ViciousSummer]

I get *very* little traffic from my DMOZ listing, as well. As for paying to be listed in a directory...I wouldn't do it. Here are a couple of free (and easy!) directories I've recently found, that have a decent PR:

http://www.hyperclix.com/sub_link.htm
http://www.e-commerce-directory.com/submit.cgi
http://www.ruhim.com/add.cgi

:D

[webcertain]

What about Yahoo directory? The traffic coming from it is not hudge, but well qualified..

[fluke]

isedb has quite a few good free & pay directories..

http://www.isedb.com/html/Web_Directories/

forgive me for saying this will.spencer - but has anyone ever likened you to Will Riker out of the next generation ?

[tphyahoo]

Riker... truly low.

:p

T.

[Will.Spencer]

I always wanted to be Mr. Spock. :D

[fluke]

:)

hehe sorry

[liwei]

Thanks guys v useful!

[vinyl]

http://www.e-commerce-directory.com/submit.cgi

Dont you EVER try to submit to THAT directory - I recieved security alert and researched it - I found it being caused by malicious iframe which tries to infect windows hosts file by executing batch used to assign all google instances to http://207.44.199.117/ which will force people to search thru that address which of course has owners Adsense code embed in it - In the case that you got infected, use CWShredder (http://www.softpedia.com/public/scripts/downloadhero/10-17-150/) which will easily remove problematic hosts entries.

[schlottke]

I wouldnt normally pay unless I was receiving sgnificant traffic.

[hurricane_sh]

I agree, there are many ways to build links, paid directory listing is not worth it for many websites

[carowan]

Dont you EVER try to submit to THAT directory - I recieved security alert and researched it - I found it being caused by malicious iframe which tries to infect windows hosts file by executing batch used to assign all google instances to http://207.44.199.117/ which will force people to search thru that address which of course has owners Adsense code embed in it - In the case that you got infected, use CWShredder (http://www.softpedia.com/public/scripts/downloadhero/10-17-150/) which will easily remove problematic hosts entries.
Just happened to me!!!....my antivirus took care of it, but its still pretty creepy.
Definitely pass this "directory" up!

[shivam]

We don't, because we as directory do not add all site submited by SEO's so they will charge their client just to submit (means to put text in field of add url form)

It is better to submit to directories by your self. You can submit your site to us, also we directories list in our directory.

[kirby009]

I would pay for them because you get a high pr page and it's fast and lasts longer in some cases. I might try i sonner or later.

[cldnails]

I've paid to be included in a few directories, if they met my own strict criteria. One, they weren't overrun, two, I would get quality traffic and good PR. Again, it's worth it for paid inclusion if you can afford it.

Although, I wouldn't break the bank to find out, only when your comfortable. Because I don't think any directory is going to thrust your site to the top of SERPs alone. ;)

[Winagain]

I will only use directories to increase incoming links. However, just trying to submit my site to all free, no back link required directories has taken weeks.

May be months before I decide to pay for a listing.

[livingearth]

I look at the end page on which my link will be placed. If it is of considerable PR (then I know it is indexed), theme is good with relevant content and the price is cheap enough, I might try it...

[Jade456]

Sometimes the price is right! If you can get a link on a page with pr, even 1, for say a buck or two, why not? Anything else is just gravy. Still, I usually just submit to info.vilesilencer list every month....:D

[mdvaldosta]

There are some very good paid directories out there that generate traffic, not just PR. No sense paying for a PR2 link, but many have PR4 or better pages with good listings.

[wazimm]

If I had the cheese I would pay for sitewide directory links only. Some directories have 1000+ categories and some expand to a second or third page. That's 1000+ possible backlinks

[dvduval]

DMOZ and Yahoo directories began with just a few links. ;)
Nobody can predict which directories will be grow and become valuable resources in the future, but I can guarantee some will.

[webcertain]

If I had the cheese I would pay for sitewide directory links only. Some directories have 1000+ categories and some expand to a second or third page. That's 1000+ possible backlinks

Hi Wazimm, I am really surprised by your comment - are you aware that sitewide
links are discounted?

Cheers,
Johann

[onedollar]

Hi Wazimm, I am really surprised by your comment - are you aware that sitewide
links are discounted?

not with all search engines;)

[Tim_Myth]

www.directorycritic.com has a good list of free and paid directories. They even have a list of directories that allow deep-linking.

As for links that do/don't generate traffic, well. I have one niche directory that generates a lot fo hits for the sites in. I also have a general directory (the one in my sig) that has produced an average of ~30 hits a month for some of the sites in it. Other sites in the same category haven't yet averaged 1 click-through a month. I think this is more a sign of a bad description than anything.

[Respiro]

I get *very* little traffic from my DMOZ listing, as well. As for paying to be listed in a directory...I wouldn't do it. Here are a couple of free (and easy!) directories I've recently found, that have a decent PR: hyperclix.com/sub_link.htm e-commerce-directory.com/submit.cgi ruhim.com/add.cgi :D

PR2 is decent? I'm not sure about that... :)

[LazySEO]

I've used a few pay directories here & there, but more for advertising & traffic than for SEO. Depending on the directory's niche and your site's topic, you can get some good exposure for a very low price. I'll gladly pay $10 for a link that includes an image of my site on a good directory.

[Respiro]

I'll gladly pay $10 for a link that includes an image of my site on a good directory.

Why do you consider that an image of your site gives more value to your listing?

[helleborine]

Don't forget the free directories that only require that you become an editor...

[LazySEO]

Why do you consider that an image of your site gives more value to your listing?

The benefit probably depends on the site's topic, but I think a well thought out thumbnail image can make your listing stand out and sometimes even attract visitors to click on it.

I've seen more traffic from this technique on my crafts & gardening sites than anything else - people looking for those sites tend to be attuned to color schemes & visual effects. I'm not sure it would be as effective for a more standard-looking business or financial site.