What are the highest cost AdWords

[compar]

I have a content site on which I run AdSense ads. I can add any subject matter I want to my content site. The only restriction is that I like to show a connection between the content subject and the Internet, but there is not much these days that hasn't got an Internet connection.

What I would like to do is write content that has the highest AdSense payment potential. But the other reason for looking for high paying AdWord ads is that this is also some measurement of popularity and so content on this subject should be well received and draw traffic.

A brief search on AdWords seem to indicate that these are fairly expensive AdWords:

1. University Degrees Online
2. Satellite TV
3. Point of sale software

To get top position on Adwords for any of these terms would cost between $5 and $10.

What other words or themes are people paying $10 plus for on AdWords?

[Trance-formation]

What other words or themes are people paying $10 plus for on AdWords?

I can't help you on that one, but I noticed yesterday that 2 clicks on a new page seem to have netted me about $2.50 (the adword banner is for yoga), and would be interested how you do the search to assess cost, since this content is giving me a return per click 5-10 times what the rest of the site is currently giving me.

[Redleg]

I believe "Web Hosting" is pretty high up on that list..

[Will.Spencer]

You assess cost through the AdWords portal at http://www.google.com/adwords.

You can put in random words and see what AdWords wants to charge advertisers for those words.

Here are a few I just tried:

Bush $0.84
Cheney $0.80
Health $3.90
Kerry $2.15
Medicine $1.92
Point of sale software $10.40
President $0.54
SEO $4.61
Satellite TV $3.93
University Degrees Online $8.74
Yoga $1.58
degrees $5.80
entertainment $1.28
hosting $8.77
jessica simpson $0.41
satellite $3.11
university $1.36
university degrees $4.48
webmaster $1.60
web hosting $10.95

[digitalpoint]

Ones that I know about that are over $10/click...

Mesothelioma: $52.81
search engine optimization: $20.06
affiliate programs: $19.06
register domain: $16.91
merchant account: $15.81
domain registration: $13.88
refinance: $13.80
hard drive recovery: $13.43
buy contacts: $12.64
web hosting: $12.26
merchant accounts: $11.30
merchant account application: $11.05
student loan: $10.75
credit card application: $10.73

[skanxalot]

Mesothelioma is definitely the highest that I've seen. We're running PPC for a law firm at up to $100 / click right now.

[Foxy]

 Here is the spread on Overture fo the terms specified


satellite tv

1
$2.36
2
$2.34
3
$2.33
4
$2.31
5
$1.42
6
$1.41
7
$1.41
8
$1.40
9
$1.01
10
$1.00
12
$0.75
14
$0.60
16
$0.55
18
$0.55
20
$0.50

 


online degrees college university


1
$3.01
2
$3.00
3
$2.51
4
$2.20
5
$1.99
6
$1.73
7
$1.71
8
$1.71
9
$1.71
10
$1.71
12
$1.05
14
$1.01
16
$0.78
18
$0.51
20
$0.43

 

online degrees


1
$6.00
2
$5.99
3
$5.05
4
$5.04
5
$4.21
6
$4.20
7
$4.19
8
$4.18
9
$3.90
10
$3.89
12
$3.66
14
$3.49
16
$3.00
18
$2.85
20
$2.15

 


online college degrees


1
$6.45
2
$6.40
3
$5.33
4
$5.32
5
$5.31
6
$5.30
7
$4.67
8
$4.66
9
$3.90
10
$3.89
12
$3.03
14
$2.51
16
$2.49
18
$2.05
20
$2.03

 


online degree programs


1
$6.85
2
$5.80
3
$5.75
4
$4.77
5
$4.76
6
$4.75
7
$4.66
8
$4.65
9
$4.00
10
$3.99
12
$3.06
14
$3.02
16
$2.28
18
$2.22
20
$2.03

 


point of sale software

1
$9.10
2
$9.00
3
$8.66
4
$8.65
5
$8.03
6
$8.02
7
$4.10
8
$4.02
9
$3.03
10
$2.51
12
$2.01
14
$2.00
16
$1.55
18
$1.50
20
$1.50

[digitalpoint]

Okay, I'll bite... how are you determining the specific cost for the top 20? (I'm assuming that's what it is)

[Redleg]

Overture bids:
http://uv.bidtool.overture.com/d/USm/search/tools/bidtool/

Try "Mesothelioma" :eek:

$100 and down....

[Such Great Heights]

Good thread topic.

I was planning on writing up a page about video conferencing and broadband video phones. Talking about installation, products, and the technology in general. I was also going to offer local installations.

So I was happy to see that these keyphrases are above the $10 mark;

broadband phone $10.25
video conference $12.05
video conferencing $14.85

but considering I am pretty lazy and don't have a whole lot of time, it might be a while until I get around to it. :p

[T0PS3O]

With their bid tool:

(UK) http://uv.bidtool.overture.com/d/search/tools/bidtool/index.jhtml

[anthonycea]

Want Action, I guess you will have to pay to play down the road :mad:

[mopacfan]

I may have to get off my happy rear and put some sites together to target some of these... hmmmm

[Such Great Heights]

Why such a difference?

Google AdWords says:
wireless security camera: $14.66

Overture Bid Tool says:
wireless security camera: $0.89

Both for #1 spot.

Who should I believe?
In this case, since it's AdSense we are wondering what would get the highest pay out, so do you think this would be a high paying AdSense topic?
Or because of the glaring difference do you think it would only be about half of what AdWords says?

[debunked]

I heard plastic surgery was high at overture.

[digitalpoint]

Why such a difference?

Google AdWords says:
wireless security camera: $14.66

Overture Bid Tool says:
wireless security camera: $0.89

Both for #1 spot.

Who should I believe?
In this case, since it's AdSense we are wondering what would get the highest pay out, so do you think this would be a high paying AdSense topic?
Or because of the glaring difference do you think it would only be about half of what AdWords says?
Well since they are two different PPC engines, of course they are going to be different. I'm guess AdWords will usually be higher since there are more advertisers bidding against each other.

[disgust]

I tried finding a few, highest I could find was fen-phen at 6$

[Such Great Heights]

Well since they are two different PPC engines, of course they are going to be different. I'm guess AdWords will usually be higher since there are more advertisers bidding against each other.
I just figured they'd be somewhat in the same ball park with the same keywords. It seems like if people are competing for the number one position in one, they'd also do it in the other most popular PPC program.

I'd imagine AdWords would return more traffic though. Well I guess it all depends on the keyphrase too.

[T0PS3O]

It depends on the target audience I think.

We see far better results on women focussed ads on Overture compared to Google for instance. MSN + Yahoo users vs Google users still sees a significant difference I believe.

[hurricane_sh]

Interesting topic and surprising keywords, I tried some keywords I'm intested in, all are very cheap :-(

[compar]

I want to thank everyone for their research and contribution to this thread. I started it this morning and got busy, went to lunch with some old friends who run a charter boat service out of the British Virgin Islands, came back to the office, looked after a bunch of phone calls and dealt with some other issues, and then checked this thread.

Wow! All these responses. You guys have done all my home work for me. Where do you want me to mail the commission checks -- cheques for our UK contributors.

[Foxy]

I want to thank everyone for their research and contribution to this thread. I started it this morning and got busy, went to lunch with some old friends who run a charter boat service out of the British Virgin Islands, came back to the office, looked after a bunch of phone calls and dealt with some other issues, and then checked this thread.

Wow! All these responses. You guys have done all my home work for me. Where do you want me to mail the commission checks -- cheques for our UK contributors.


Buy me a nice bottle of New Zealand wine Bob

Sit down with a glass and an opener looking out on a pleasant view

Think about things and have a nice time drinking it. :)



In answer to Shawns query I get the spread off Wordtracker they do Overture, Findwhat, Bay9, Goclick, Searchboss but Overture is the only one worth tracking.

[compar]

Thanks to all the good work everyone did yesterday I have just written and posted a Mesothelioma or Asbestos Cancer (http://www.compar.com/infopool/articles/mesothelioma.html) article.

It will be interesting to see what type of AdSense income this generates. I'll keep you posted.

Of course anyone who would like to throw up a link and drive some traffic to this page would be welcome. I could even be persuaded to reciprocate with a PR5 or PR6 link back to you from a relevant article or page.

[anthonycea]

Great page Bob but do you think that Google will take note of this part of it, why would you take a chance by publishing this.
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Most reader know that it is possible to buy ads that will be displayed on Search Engine results pages when certain keywords are searched on. The current record high payment for keyword advertising of this type is held by "mesothelioma" and "asbestos cancer". These law firms are currently paying between $60 $100 every time someone clicks on one of their ads.

If you look on the left side of this article page you will see several ads for attorneys, lawyer and law firms seeking clients with mesothelioma cancer. If you are interested in learning more about these law firms and decide to click one of these ads, that law firm will pay Google something in the range mentioned above, depending on their specific advertising contract with Google.
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Your favorite critic AC

[disgust]

I'd think that could be borderline if google sees it.. I know they can be really, really picky sometimes.

[compar]

I'd think that could be borderline if google sees it.. I know they can be really, really picky sometimes.
This article, while informative, is a clear cut attempt to exploit a high paying AdWord keyword. If Anthony is right and Google is an unprincipled bunch of captialists, then they will welcome the extra business no matter how they get it.

If they are principled, I challenge them to show where I'm encouraging click throughs. Aren't their ads additional information? That is all I said. If their ads aren't informational what are they doing displaying them?

[anthonycea]

Yes Bob, but WHY MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN ATTEMPT TO EXPLOIT ADSENSE?

Just publish the article as a public service and leave it at that.

No need for that paragraph at all. That is all I am saying. You could add more information such as links to the American Cancer Assoc. or other groups to help those who are suffering, even a government link or two.

There is no need for the inside information on how Adsense Programs work for the readers that will be drawn to the article.

[compar]

Yes Bob, but WHY MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN ATTEMPT TO EXPLOIT ADSENSE?

Just publish the article as a public service and leave it at that.

No need for that paragraph at all. That is all I am saying. You could add more information such as links to the American Cancer Assoc. or other groups to help those who are suffering, even a government link or two.

There is no need for the inside information on how Adsense Programs work for the readers that will be drawn to the article.
But that is the "Internet phenomenon" hook in the article. The information is available on many of the lawyer's pages. Where do you think I got it?

But what makes my article unique is the internet tie-in. At least that's my opinion.

[anthonycea]

Bob I am not going to bust your balls, you ask for opinions, you got mine, I would remove that section.

It looks suspect to me, if you want to leave it in, then leave it in.

Do you think you can do an effective review of the article since you are the author of the article?

Bob you yourself said that you wanted different types of articles in your InfoPool, so why do you have to include the "Internet tie in" in all your articles?

InfoPool is exactly that, Information, not every article has to have a tie in to SEO or webmastering to be in your InfoPool.

Folks that are suffering from this condition could not care less what Google gets paid for ads, there is no need to tell them, you just put your page and website at risk.

It is doing you no good, buy could do you harm to leave that paragraph in.

[compar]

It is doing you no good, buy could do you harm to leave that paragraph in.
Thanks for your concern. I'll reconsider it.

[T0PS3O]

You only mention conventional treatment by the Government Monopoly of drugs and pharmaceuticals. There are others ways which might interest your readers if you truly care about giving them the right info / a complete set of options as oppose to creating a high-paying ad page. The fact that only these approaches are known is probably the reason for the highly lucrative CTR rates.

Have a look into other ways of ridding the body from toxic elements without nuking the body. Your aspartame client will probably have an interest in this self-healing I'd imagine.

[luigib]

An other tool: http://www.findwhat.com/

[anthonycea]

Bob I highly doubt that any of those organizations listed in your ADSENSE ads on your Cancer page are paying $60.00-$100.00 per click.

Some of those organizations are simply informational sites, I just do not think this is in line with what any of those sites would pay for a click. :cool:

[radsoft]

Have Mesothelioma (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/cancerselfhelp/) site where I could provide a link. PM for details.

[compar]

Bob I highly doubt that any of those organizations listed in your ADSENSE ads on your Cancer page are paying $60.00-$100.00 per click.

Some of those organizations are simply informational sites, I just do not think this is in line with what any of those sites would pay for a click. :cool:
Have you actually clicked through on any of them. I followed some of these links from a generic search and all kinds of pages that look like informational pages are simply fronts, almost doorways sites, for Law firms.

BTW Anthony have you put up the link to this article like I asked you to yet?

[anthonycea]

Damm Good Looking Site Radsoft, you are going to make Bob mad with that one, maybe you can buy him out since you have the market cornered.

I bet the folks in China are going to translate your site and make money simply highjacking sites for the China market, I think I will start doing that :D

[compar]

Have a look into other ways of ridding the body from toxic elements without nuking the body. Your aspartame client will probably have an interest in this self-healing I'd imagine.
TOPS30, If you genuinely have a viable -- even anecdotally -- alternative medicine response to this disease, write it up and send it to me, I'll publish it as an addendum to my article.

I have no axe to grind here. I'm only reporting the generally excepted wisdom on the situation. I'm not a medical researcher or an alternative medicine proponent.

[anthonycea]

Bob, when you clean up your page like I asked I may send a link your way :D

[compar]

Bob, when you clean up your page like I asked I may send a link your way :D
What's to clean up? You talk about removing a paragraph. Do you mean a paragraph or do you mean the entire "Internet Phenomenon" section?

The point is that I'm not an expert on this subject. The background information I have supplied is simply culled from other reports and sources. My contribution to this thread is to show the place of the personal injury/class action suit lawyers in a thing like this. Many condemn these lawyers, but for other's they are saviors. What do you think of the part they are playing in this disease?

Is all the advertising they are doing for the benefit of the mesothelioma victims, or is it really only baltant self interest? John Edwards, Kerry's running mate, made his millions on cases of exactly this type. Was he fighting for the little guy or just getting rich? Is it possible to do both?

[anthonycea]

No Bob, just what I highlighted in my prior post, like I said you are hurting yourself.

Put something in place of the Google gets $60-100 bucks when someone clicks on the ads to the left.

Google is going to can you anyway, so why promote a page that is going to get you suspended from ADSENSE?

If you clean the page up you do yourself a favor, Disgust said the same thing, how many more opinions do you need? Disgust does a lot of Adsense business per month so she knows what she is talking about, Right?

Like I told you replace that with some information links to the American Cancer Assoc. or like Top 30 said put some other data in the article.

We don't want to bust your balls Bob, but are trying to help you :)

[compar]

Ok Anthony I have modified the "phenomenon" section. I have taken out the specific reference to the price they are paying and expanded the Personal Injury lawyers, good or bad theme.

See if you are any happier now?

[disgust]

No Bob, just what I highlighted in my prior post, like I said you are hurting yourself.

Put something in place of the Google gets $60-100 bucks when someone clicks on the ads to the left.

Google is going to can you anyway, so why promote a page that is going to get you suspended from ADSENSE?

If you clean the page up you do yourself a favor, Disgust said the same thing, how many more opinions do you need? Disgust does a lot of Adsense business per month so she knows what she is talking about, Right?

Like I told you replace that with some information links to the American Cancer Assoc. or like Top 30 said put some other data in the article.

We don't want to bust your balls Bob, but are trying to help you :)

although I admit I tend to be on the more conservative side as far as pushing what's acceptable for adsense.. :)

while I understand that compar wasn't directly solicitng clicks, it just seems like the sort of thing google probably wouldn't be ecsatic about- especially if an advertiser saw it and complained.

[anthonycea]

Don't worry about making me happy Bob, Disgust makes more in a month than I make all year on text ads. :mad:

[anthonycea]

Bob, I am still not happy with it, why don't you let Disgust rewrite the article for you, she can alter it in a way that she sees as correct for ADSENSE.

She seems to know what she is doing, give her a chance to go over the article and take out anything that she deems as potential problems and ACCEPT her final version of the dammed thing. :D

[bobafind]

If you two don't mind someone asking, has anyone clicked on any of those ads yet, and if so was the payout anywhere near what you expected? I'm sure all of us are very curious :)

[compar]

If you two don't mind someone asking, has anyone clicked on any of those ads yet, and if so was the payout anywhere near what you expected? I'm sure all of us are very curious :)
So if you are that curious why don't you click on the ad once and we will find out?

I'm not currently tracking that single page, but I haven't seen a surge in my income that would suggest that anyone had clicked and/or that it was a $60 click.

If I see any surge in my general income I'll start tracking that page all by itself.

BTW Google doesn't seem to have cached it yet which is really unusual because normally all my pages are cached and indexed within 48 hours. It has been closer to 72 hours since I posted that site??????

[Help Desk]

Thanks to all the good work everyone did yesterday I have just written and posted a Mesothelioma or Asbestos Cancer (http://www.compar.com/infopool/articles/mesothelioma.html) article.

It will be interesting to see what type of AdSense income this generates. I'll keep you posted.

Of course anyone who would like to throw up a link and drive some traffic to this page would be welcome. I could even be persuaded to reciprocate with a PR5 or PR6 link back to you from a relevant article or page.

Are you getting any traffic to this page?

[compar]

Are you getting any traffic to this page?
I don't track this page as a separate page but as part of my over all site. So the answer is I don't know.

However for some reason Google hasn't gotten around to caching it yet -- very unusual, they normally cache my new pages in 48 to 72 hours -- so I doubt there has been much direct traffic to it yet.

[schlottke]

I'm interested in knowing the price range on those ads being displayed, my guess is probabkly 3-40

[GuyFromChicago]

I a run a couple Adwords campaigns for the legal profession. To put the mystery to bed I can confirm that some of my clients pay $20 - $45 per click depending on the keyword/phrase. If a high % of that revenue goes to the webmaster hosting the ad (which it does) you can get an idea of what some of the payouts are.

[melfan]

Just for your info. My friend is running a website about asbestos cancer information and resources. Ofcoz there is adsense there. I ask him how much he receive for each click on those adsense ads, he said "Very Little" And I was suprise the web hosting keywords of my site earn a lot more than his.

[anthonycea]

That is what I told these guy's, ain't no one in their right mind going to pay $60.00 to $100.00 for a click, that is sick.

Wow, you can get an entire penny for some click throughs :D

[melfan]

I think $60-$100 is rate for the advertisers only, this is because there are too many advertisers (due to the fact it is one of the most search keyword) but lesser publishers.

[GuyFromChicago]

That is what I told these guy's, ain't no one in their right mind going to pay $60.00 to $100.00 for a click, that is sick.


Sure they will, all depends on the ROI. If they stand to make millions from one legit click it's worth it.

[radsoft]

I a run a couple Adwords campaigns for the legal profession. To put the mystery to bed I can confirm that some of my clients pay $20 - $45 per click depending on the keyword/phrase. If a high % of that revenue goes to the webmaster hosting the ad (which it does) you can get an idea of what some of the payouts are.

From the clicks I have received so far Google must retain majority of the cost to your clients.

Based on the lower end of your scale, the publisher's cut (i.e. mine) is very low.

If I worked on the upper end, the publisher's cut is very, very, very low.

Adsense ads for web hosting can pay 4 to 5 times more than this.

[compar]

Several points to make.

1. I have always calculated my share of the price of the keyword for an AdSense click through as 50%. Shawn thinks he receives closer to 80%. maybe high volume AdSense publishers get a higher percentage of the take???

2. It's hard to believe that Google would vary the percentage by the keywords, so maybe someone is paying $56 for a mesothelioma keyword, but maybe the rest are not.

3. I feel that I have gotten some click throughs on this page, but that being the case I'm only get around a $1 per.

4. Item #3 is really speculation at this time because I wasn't tracking that page as a channel. I have now corrected that situation, but it will take three days before I see the channel results for that page.

I'll keep you posted.

[radsoft]

I would say double item 3 is a fair assumption.

[melfan]

Several points to make.

1. I have always calculated my share of the price of the keyword for an AdSense click through as 50%. Shawn thinks he receives closer to 80%. maybe high volume AdSense publishers get a higher percentage of the take???

2. It's hard to believe that Google would vary the percentage by the keywords, so maybe someone is paying $56 for a mesothelioma keyword, but maybe the rest are not.

3. I feel that I have gotten some click throughs on this page, but that being the case I'm only get around a $1 per.

4. Item #3 is really speculation at this time because I wasn't tracking that page as a channel. I have now corrected that situation, but it will take three days before I see the channel results for that page.

I'll keep you posted.

My friend use channel to track his mesothelioma website and Its show that it does not pay much. anyway he build it primary to help people.

[disgust]

I'm sure a lot of mesothelioma advertisers turn off the content matching for just that reason.. I'd think I'd be more than 1$ per click, though.

[melfan]

I'm sure a lot of mesothelioma advertisers turn off the content matching for just that reason.. I'd think I'd be more than 1$ per click, though.

Guess what its only around 0.5$ per click and not more than 1$.

[anthonycea]

Can someone just prove me wrong for once :D

Please, I need to become more humble :eek:

[compar]

The first results showed up in my mesothelioma tracking this morning. I got 2 click throughs from this page on Wednesday and they paid a total of $1.48, or an average of 74 cents each.

So much for the AdWord value of $60 for this search term.

[anthonycea]

No one in their right mind would pay that much for a click, a conversion into a sale is a different story.

Even if Google got $60.00 a click, do you think they are going to give you $30.00, they do not tell you how much they collect from a click, I have heard webmasters complain about Google reporting before.

.74 cents is not bad, if you get a million clicks you could give me a job, you would give me a job, RIGHT BOB? :D

[digitalpoint]

It's not that Google won't pay that much, it's the advertiser not willing to pay that much. I've received $15+ per click from AdSense from what I can only guess were keywords (I couldn't think of any other keywords it could be keying off of) that were bidding around $20.

But advertisers aren't stupid... none of them paying high amounts would ever pay for content based ads because guess what? Lots of people are making pages/sites just to attract the high paying keywords. If that weren't the case, and the only sites were legitimate info sites, I'm sure they would probably allow it because the users would convert just as much as search users.

[Help Desk]

The first results showed up in my mesothelioma tracking this morning. I got 2 click throughs from this page on Wednesday and they paid a total of $1.48, or an average of 74 cents each.

So much for the AdWord value of $60 for this search term.

Even if the AdWord value is high this does not mean the AdSense value is high. AdSense is just one way that AdWords ads are shown.

[GuyFromChicago]

But advertisers aren't stupid... none of them paying high amounts would ever pay for content based ads because guess what? Lots of people are making pages/sites just to attract the high paying keywords. If that weren't the case, and the only sites were legitimate info sites, I'm sure they would probably allow it because the users would convert just as much as search users.

I turned off the option to display my client's ads on content sites a long time ago. For the short time I allowed them, my client's daily budget was gone within 2 - 3 hours each day and no leads were coming. I shut off content sites, and while the # of clicks went down (substantially) the people that clicked on the ads actually started making contact with my client.

I allow my low cost ads (like 10 cents per click) on content sites but none of my expensive ads will ever come anywhere near a content site.

[schlottke]

I've receive an extremely high amount of money for clicks on one of my articles pages..

[Weirfire]

Is it within the terms to discuss how much you get per click? I thought you could only discuss the total amount you are making from adsense?

[hulkster]

Technically, I don't think you are able to talk about ANY of it per the TOS - does seem a bit tight/restrictive on Google's part IMHO ...

[Such Great Heights]

Is it within the terms to discuss how much you get per click? I thought you could only discuss the total amount you are making from adsense?
It might be OK if you don't say what channel, date, or keyword/page, and just the per click. To be safe you can always leave it as an "estimate." ;)

[digitalpoint]

Basically you're not supposed to talk about anything that you are only able to see via the reporting.

Monthly total is okay because you get a check with the amount. Per click is not okay. CTR you could talk about as long as you are getting the stats from a 3rd party CTR monitoring tool.

[Weirfire]

What ever happened to freedom of speech! ;)

[Such Great Heights]

damn shawn is right again! ;)

[Michael]

Bob your scrapings have been plagiarised at least once already http://www.toptentshirts.com/mesothelioma/article_Mesothelioma-What-Is-It.php

- Michael

[compar]

Bob your scrapings have been plagiarised at least once already http://www.toptentshirts.com/mesothelioma/article_Mesothelioma-What-Is-It.php

- Michael
Your right. A dead copy. Didn't even bother changing a word. And no author credits either.

How did you find it?

Anybody got any idea about what I should do about it if anything?

[Owlcroft]

1. Obviously, I don't know how he found it, but there is a site--I don't have the details handy, but it oughtn't to be hard to find--specifically created to find page duplications; I used it once as a test, and it is, if anything, over-zealous, finding even a few paragrpahs (I had quoted something that many sites quote) of similarity.

2. Make contact with the site host and tell them their client is grossly breaching copyright; that usually gets the plug pulled instantly.

[anthonycea]

These guys work quick, I was at a site the other day and thought I was at DP, dammed place looked just like DP :D

Must have copied Shawn's design.......

Compar, if you were not such a good writer, this would have never happened, must be the Russian Mafia at work again.

I guess Google will let anyone put ads up. :cool: Funny Stuff......

[Michael]

How did you find it?

I was looking to see how much of your article you had copied from other sites and it came up on the radar.

http://www.copyscape.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.compar.com%2Finfopool%2Farticles%2Fmesothelioma.html

- Michael

[Help Desk]

That is very interesting that it is powered by Google Alert.

[Foxy]

That is very interesting that it is powered by Google Alert.

If they are using Google Alert [as they are] then the duplicate content mechanism of Google is that which is being used to determine the copied material.

Useful :)

[melfan]

I think they use the same algorithm as google.

[Foxy]

I think they use the same algorithm as google.

They are actually licenced by Google

[Tapanti]

First, as a heading note, IMO, it’s plain immoral to get profit out of people decease and suffering, but what can we do… that’s the world we live in.

That said, take a look at the list of some major masothelioma related words and their correspondent AdWords PPC.


[abdominal mesothelioma] $17.16
[asbestos and mesothelioma] $5.42
[asbestos mesothelioma] $37.74
[asbestos] $24.95
[claims] $33.11
[fibrosis] $14.50
[lung cancer] $5.34
[malignant mesothelioma] $47.07
[malignant pleural mesothelioma] $40.45
[mesothelioma asbestos] $34.70
[mesothelioma attorneys] $75.43
[mesothelioma cancer] $43.37
[mesothelioma clinic] $57.04
[mesothelioma diagnosis] $36.81
[mesothelioma doctor] $53.33
[mesothelioma info] $36.68
[mesothelioma law firm] $40.36
[mesothelioma law] $45.86
[mesothelioma lawsuit] $30.72
[mesothelioma lawyers] $56.61
[mesothelioma research] $24.78
[mesothelioma symptoms] $47.28
[mesothelioma treatment] $56.03
[mesothelioma] $55.85
[mesothelium] $12.81
[pericardial mesothelioma] $9.60
[peritoneal mesothelioma] $48.95
[pleural mesothelioma] $54.03
[prevention] $7.54
[what is mesothelioma] $36.58

[compar]

I was looking to see how much of your article you had copied from other sites and it came up on the radar.

http://www.copyscape.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.compar.com%2Finfopool%2Farticles%2Fmesothelioma.html

- Michael
And how much of my article had I copied from other sites?

[compar]

That is very interesting that it is powered by Google Alert.
But that may not be what you think. Look at the disclaimer on the bottom line on the site. It says it is not affiliated with Google.

[anthonycea]

They must use Google API's Bob ;)

[liwei]

Yes I always thought things like Casino and Web Hosting would be pretty high.

[Michael]

And how much of my article had I copied from other sites?

I didn't look that close to say within any degree of accuracy.

I guess some sections were a minor rewrite http://www.copyscape.com/view.php?o=59949&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freewebs.com%2Fmesothelioma%2F#copyscape_start whereas something like this was a straight copy and paste http://www.copyscape.com/view.php?o=59949&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mesoinfo.com%2Fhelp%2Fmedical.html#copyscape_start

So I am guessing here - say 60% - is that about right?

- Michael

[compar]

I didn't look that close to say within any degree of accuracy.

I guess some sections were a minor rewrite http://www.copyscape.com/view.php?o=59949&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freewebs.com%2Fmesothelioma%2F#copyscape_start whereas something like this was a straight copy and paste http://www.copyscape.com/view.php?o=59949&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mesoinfo.com%2Fhelp%2Fmedical.html#copyscape_start

So I am guessing here - say 60% - is that about right?

- Michael
If you remove the "internet phenomenon" section the rest is all a minor rewrite.

But let's say I'm a genuine mesothelioma research scientist and after 10 years of intense research I'm writing and introductory article for a consumer oriented medical magazine. Wouldn't you guess that many of these same words and phrases word appear in the article?

For instance how do you communicate this information asbestos fibers puncture the parenchyma, become lodged in the pleura, and by process of irritation create the change in the cells which causes the mesothelioma.
in a way, and with words, that nobody has ever used before?

There are a limited number of words in the English language. Everything published on the internet is going to use words and phrases used by other English speaking writers. Where does plagarism begin and end?

[Michael]

If you remove the "internet phenomenon" section the rest is all a minor rewrite.

But let's say I'm a genuine mesothelioma research scientist and after 10 years of intense research I'm writing and introductory article for a consumer oriented medical magazine. Wouldn't you guess that many of these same words and phrases word appear in the article? Same vocabulary, sure.

For instance how do you communicate this information asbestos fibers puncture the parenchyma, become lodged in the pleura, and by process of irritation create the change in the cells which causes the mesothelioma. in a way, and with words, that nobody has ever used before? I am not an MD but if it were for a lay readership how about something like this...?

...asbestos fibers become lodged in the membrane that covers the lungs where they irritate the cells and over a 20-40 year period may develop into mesothelioma.

There are a limited number of words in the English language. Everything published on the internet is going to use words and phrases used by other English speaking writers. Where does plagarism begin and end? It depends on your moral perspective I suppose. I guess for most people it would begin with a minor rewrite and end with a full copy and paste.

- Michael

[dirtdog1960theone]

You assess cost through the AdWords portal at http://www.google.com/adwords.

You can put in random words and see what AdWords wants to charge advertisers for those words.<snip>

Thanks for the tip Will. You are approaching my coveted 'evil genius' ranking. :)

[liwei]

I remember back there was an Overture link that could help with Highest Cost Adwords...does anyone have the link?

thanks

[SEbasic]

http://uv.bidtool.overture.com/d/search/tools/bidtool/

[dirtdog1960theone]

http://uv.bidtool.overture.com/d/search/tools/bidtool/

Not "enter a search term" tool, and found how much it and its combination pays.

At least I do. The "enter a search term" tools are helpful mind you, thanks.

I think it is an adsense or ppc scheme. Target those words in your forum or site articles.

Not a flame. Just trying to clarify. And of course my usual disclaimer: what do I know I live in a cardboard box along a dirt road. shrug.

[liwei]

thank you!

[dirtdog1960theone]

thank you!
Hi liwei,

Such a tool would be very valuable no?

However even if you had such information as the highest bidded keyword it might not have any value to you. This same keyword would attract corporations with big dollar seos and huge php databases of thouands urls (these "dynamic" pages 'democratically' voting for themselves lol) and purchasing power to buy 100 and 1000s of links. Wah, sniff, my google serp stinks can't you tell? :rolleyes:

I don't think there will be one killer app tool. More like a combination of tools plus analysis and hunches that make up a "system." Any system engineers out there with free time to make one? lol

I will keep searching. ;)

Ps I really enjoy feng shui. Sorry everyone for the blatant offtopic "ps" but I am always scrounging for freebies...

liwei Help!
My houses main entrance faces west. I read this means death for the house owner (me). I am not feeling well. Help is there any remedy? Besides making an addition to the house and facing the entrance south? Thanks in advance :)

[gaurav]

do i just have to add these words to the keyword metatag of my site or somethin else?

[Lever]

do i just have to add these words to the keyword metatag of my site or somethin else?Are you running Google AdSense (https://www.google.com/adsense/) on your site guarav? It's mainly a "content thing" but do remember to take a good look at the AdSense policies (https://www.google.com/adsense/policies)... or are you looking to pay out big money for people to come to your site using AdWords?

[gaurav]

yes i'm using Google AdSense on my site. will it be a vioaltion of policies if i build a site around words that fetch money.

[Weirfire]

You are not allowed to build a site for adsense. Read your terms and conditions.

However, if you decided to build a site with many different articles then they couldn't strictly speaking say it was against the TOS.

[gaurav]

i have invision power board installed on my site, what topics r going to fetch good money and what kind of content should i have?

[Weirfire]

You only have to go back a few pages on this thread. You don't like doing research do you?

[gaurav]

i'm sorry. i started with adsense only yesterday, so i'm quite excited. i have got to make enough money to buy my own domain.
so when i update my content according to keywords. does google start serving relevant ads immediately. or do i have to wait until my site is crawled by bots.

[gaurav]

man today i made $0.03 for 21 clicks. what the hell do i do?

[Lever]

$0.03 for 21 clicks or 21 impressions? And who clicked the ads.. not you I hope !

[SEbasic]

That's what I thought of too...

Lots of unqualified traffic may be what is bringing your CPC down.

[Weirfire]

rofl.

The minimum amount you can get is $0.01 per click. It's an obvious case of clicking on his his own adverts. :rolleyes:

[Mia]

i had 122 impressions and 21 clicks ECPM was $0.25 and my earnings were $0.03 and no i am not clicking my own ads. but i have asked all my forum members to click them as we will be able to get our own domain. that's allowed ain't it?

Sure, if you want to lose your AdSense account.. Go for it.. Encourging others to click on your AdSense links for the sole purpose of running up your payout seems to me to be a violation of Googles AdSense TOS.

My advice is, build a good Content oriented site and let it do the work. The site we have that earns money with AdSense has been around since 97' and has taken years to gain momentum and popularity. The idea behind AdSense is to provide an outlet for advertisers services and or products to be displayed amonst relavent content that may lead a potential buyer to click on a link. Asking someone to click on it to run up your payout defrauds the advertisers.

Don't do it. Anyway, domains are cheap. Don't eat lunch one day and buy one. Hell, I'll sell you one at cost if it is that bad...

[Lever]

And another piece of friendly advice, guarav, read the Google AdSense Online Standard Terms and Conditions (https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms) especially item 7 point (c) regarding confidentiality and understand that you should not disclose, and I quote;
"click-through rates or other statistics relating to Site performance in the Program provided to You by Google;"
So edit that post, if you can, and read those TOS to make sure you're behaving. ;) Like mia says, you don't want Uncle G to take away your account do you?

[gaurav]

thanx guys. i have made the necessary changes.

[Lever]

OK cool, so you're not going to ask or even hint at people clicking on your ads and you're not going to disclose any details - good :)

Best thing to do is be patient and see what works for you. Placement, frequency, format & colours of your ads plus well written content, topic and traffic are all factors in being successful with AdSense.

I know where I'm at and I know where I want to go with AdSense, it's just that the path is currently a long one...

[gaurav]

how does google decide which clicks are fraudulent. does it log the ip of the clicker?

[darksat]

how does google decide which clicks are fraudulent. does it log the ip of the clicker?

Yes, they track the IP, I like the Half Life logo by the way.
I prefer Unreal Tournament myself though.

[gaurav]

i have one question. what if 50% of my users connect to the same ISP thru dial-up or ADSL. won't google get their IPs to be same? ain't it a flaw?

[compar]

i have one question. what if 50% of my users connect to the same ISP thru dial-up or ADSL. won't google get their IPs to be same? ain't it a flaw?
They still wont have the IP. Each user is assigned a different IP at login.

It sounds to me like you are trying to figure out some way to cheat the system. Just forget about it. Google is a lot smarter than you, and if you cheat you will eventually get caught. And a sometimes AdWord advertiser you really affront me with your continued exploration of how to steal money from me.

[gaurav]

let me aassure u sir that i do not intend to steal from anyone. i was just curious as i thought that the user's ip which gets logged is actually the ip of his/her host ie service provider. that's what's happens on my site. u can't blame me for being curious can you.
please also let me know how to identify the adsense bot [like goooglebot for google.com]. right now my site takes it as guest. that means it does not have accesss to all parts of my site.

[jema]

I am pretty sure in most cases all they will get is a proxy.

The same issue arises on forums, you often cannot bar by IP as the IP is a common one used as a proxy by many.

jema

[Josh]

Ones that I know about that are over $10/click...

Mesothelioma: $52.81
search engine optimization: $20.06
affiliate programs: $19.06
register domain: $16.91
merchant account: $15.81
domain registration: $13.88
refinance: $13.80
hard drive recovery: $13.43
buy contacts: $12.64
web hosting: $12.26
merchant accounts: $11.30
merchant account application: $11.05
student loan: $10.75
credit card application: $10.73

First Impression: $52 a click!!! Holy crap.. how can people aford that :P
Seccond Impresion: Nobody is going to pay that ;) I guess I was right..

One of the better paying ad catagorys, that are actually interesting, and DOES pay a decent ammount, is web hosting :)

Josh

[Mia]

Yeah, but those are the "high" bids, ie the max the advertiser will pay. I can tell you that most do not pay out that much every time. It is quite a bit less. More than some, but it is not like I see $50 bucks a click on a regular basis. Although Mesothelioma Attorney did hit the number 3 spot recently in keyword land :)

[wwwbug]

very useful things for me

[mdbusa]

I've gotten 8 dollars from a japanese real estate ad. I think. Also insurance companies pay decent rates.

[KenMendonca]

Being that I work for DentalPlans.com I am looking at dental related keywords everyday. I can tell you that the craziest rates I have seen are on cosmetic dentists in New York and Beverly Hills.

Beverly Hills Cosmetic Dentist has the top 6 spots all bidding more than $20 and that is on Overture.

[crafty]

I recon if I was doing an Adword campaign for Mesothilioma I would be using some miss spellings at cheaper rates as it took me 3 goes to get it right!! :)

[Agent47]

Here are some more :

FOREX TRADING: $12.60
CURRENCY TRADING: $12.25
FX TRADING : $10.95
futures trading: $9.25

[Mia]

I recon if I was doing an Adword campaign for Mesothilioma I would be using some miss spellings at cheaper rates as it took me 3 goes to get it right!! :)

Doesn't look like you got it quite right as you still misspelled it above. :)

[crafty]

I was just testing that you were concentrating, Jeremy :D

Holidays Western Australia (http://www.profitcourse.com/sitemap-y.html)
Fitness (http://fitness-health-beauty.com)

Cheers
Tony

[Mia]

I was just testing that you were concentrating, Jeremy :D

Holidays Western Australia (http://www.profitcourse.com/sitemap-y.html)
Fitness (http://fitness-health-beauty.com)

Cheers
Tony

What a "Crafty" response :o

[musiq]

Stumbled across this site via google search hah. Pretty good thread. The one MAJOR thing its lacking is people following up with how their ads are actually doing. I'm sure we're all curious to how your endeavors with various keywords have gone. Let us know =)

[Weirfire]

Welcome to the forums.

The reason people are not sharing how they are doing is because it is against the Adsense TOS and they could get their accounts banned for sharing this information. This certainly isn't worth it just to share a few facts and figures.

[anthonycea]

Your ads will do you ZERO good if you have no traffic, yes there are better keywords, but as more folks target those words they start paying a hell of a lot less in a hurry.

Shawn has always said that if your site does not convert hits into sales then advertisers will drop your site also.

So you need targeted traffic and qualified traffic to make money with ADSENSE and a hell of a lot of traffic.

Put up good and relevant content and you may have a chance to make money and gain traffic.

[musiq]

Hehe thanks for the replies. Still, giving estimates are allowed. Do you think google would come to this thread and read this anyway? hehe. Still whether or not the targeted words are working is still to be determined clearly. Someone could just answer with a yes or no. C'mon :D

[anthonycea]

Just do a search on high priced ADWORDS/ADSENSE and let us know what YOU find, I am sure there will be many folks offering to sell you reports and there are hundreds of sites willing to sell you a membership to a service that covers this subject.

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

Asbestos and Mesothelioma

[Mia]

Asbestos and Mesothelioma

One thing that should be noted is that it is misleading to call these and other keywords "high paying" or "highest paying" keywords. They are not that at all. What they ARE is keywords that advertisers have set the highest "maximum bid" for.

So when a site claims that "keyword" pays out $80/click, they are not explaining accurately what the keyword really pays out. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT PAYS OUT PERIOD! NO ONE DOES!!! The payout is NOT fixed.

The "$80" in the above example is "the maximum a given advertiser has bid for this keyword." PERIOD!!!

That does NOT mean that if their ad shows up on your page you will get $80 if someone clicks on the ad. It means that the person with the highest bid for this keyword is likely to show up the most often and the most prevelant if the content on your site (as well as numerous other factors) meet certain criteria.

You will likely see a higher click amount for a higher paying keyword, but certainly not the maximum amount shown on these "high paying keyword" sites.

IMHO, in this SEO world you really ought to be concentrating on creating and maintaining quality content, quality sites, quality links, with a focus on the end user, not the SE. The end user is the one who clicks on your ads, not the SE. Tailor your site to the people you target with good content and they will likely see something on your site that interests them. What's more, it will keep them coming back!

That is what you really want after all, repeat visitors. Keep them coming to your site, and they will continue to see things they like.

And PLEASE do NOT ask me about my meso site. I must get a PM or email a day asking me what it pays out. It's none of your business. ;)

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

I know you can find the highest bids by using the Overture bid tool, but the numbers fluctuate alot during the day.

[tbarr60]

A friend of mine worked for a large mortgage company and part of his duties was to manage the online campagains. He mentioned a range of $8 to $20 per click for Adwords for a top position but it's your guess as to how much went to the publisher and how much went to Google.

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

I read that is is between 50-75 percent.

[raven2424]

i found this site http://uv.bidtool.overture.com/d/search/tools/bidtool/ which you can use to find out what keywords net you the most per click.

[wendydettmer]

all that does is tell you how much people are willing to pay per click, not what you will get paid per click. We don't know for sure what % google pays out.

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

Overture ad adsense are loosly linked. Overture has much fewer sited, where as Adsense is loaded with .05 cent chaff..

[Solicitors Mortgages]

A friend of mine worked for a large mortgage company and part of his duties was to manage the online campagains. He mentioned a range of $8 to $20 per click for Adwords for a top position but it's your guess as to how much went to the publisher and how much went to Google.

getting google to actually DISPLAY those ads on your site, and not the 50cent ones would be quite important.

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

getting google to actually DISPLAY those ads on your site, and not the 50cent ones would be quite important.

The ads all rotate for content. 50 cents ads mixed with 15 dollar ads.

[Homer]

It is rumored that AS pay out amounts also is influenced by the natural (organic) ranking of this page. In my own personal experience (last 30 days) I have been paying close attention to the relationship of SERP's and AS EPC.

I am now convinced that SEO techiniques are a large part of CPM and EPC. By the conversations in this thread I believe this fact is confirmed. Bob says first 2 clicks .74/ea...that's a far cry from your share of $60-$100/ click.

I would like to submit that those that find that these keywords indeed pay high...check your natural ranking under those KW and you will probably conclude what I have.

That's my 2 cents :)

[paymentapprovaltooslow]

There is something called smart pricing whihc really eats away at your revenue.

[Homer]

I believe the 'smart pricing' algo is what I am talking about. I am not sure exactly how this works but believe it is relative to your rankings?

https://adwords.google.com/select/news/sa_mar04.html

[lordstevu]

You assess cost through the AdWords portal at

You can put in random words and see what AdWords wants to charge advertisers for those words.

Here are a few I just tried:

Bush $0.84
Cheney $0.80
Health $3.90
Kerry $2.15
Medicine $1.92
Point of sale software $10.40
President $0.54
SEO $4.61
Satellite TV $3.93
University Degrees Online $8.74
Yoga $1.58
degrees $5.80
entertainment $1.28
hosting $8.77
jessica simpson $0.41
satellite $3.11
university $1.36
university degrees $4.48
webmaster $1.60
web hosting $10.95


where i can find this result ????

where i can find top value of adsense ??

[jema]

That list strikes me as rubbish. I get loads of web hosting ads, and loads of clicks on them. I don't see 10% of the $ mentioned there.

[lordstevu]

That list strikes me as rubbish. I get loads of web hosting ads, and loads of clicks on them. I don't see 10% of the $ mentioned there.

where i can find this service ?

[Mia]

That list strikes me as rubbish. I get loads of web hosting ads, and loads of clicks on them. I don't see 10% of the $ mentioned there.

Depends on many other factors. I have a 5 year old PR6 web hosting specifc site that really sells web hosting (not a spam site or landing page). There's no rubish in that list :) YMMV

[Mia]

Hey, what's the deal with the one Coop Ad quickly loading before your site on http://www.arkwrightshomebrew.com ?

[lordstevu]

Hey, what's the deal with the one Coop Ad quickly loading before your site on ]http://www.arkwrightshomebrew.com ?


what ????
why you say me that ?

[lordstevu]

i need to find value of adsense banner

Is it possible ??

[compar]

i need to find value of adsense banner

Is it possible ??
No not exactly. At best you can find the range of payouts.

The real issue is that you shouldn't be building pages for AdSense. You should be putting AdSense ads on pages with lots of good content. Build the pages for the reader, optimize them for the Search Engines, then you will get visitors who are interested in the content and will be interested in the AdSense ads. That is how you get a good CTR and that is how you make money with AdSense.

[Mia]

what ????
why you say me that ?

What?

...

[Perrow]

That list strikes me as rubbish. I get loads of web hosting ads, and loads of clicks on them. I don't see 10% of the $ mentioned there.
It might be because that list is like a year old or so ;)

[lordstevu]

i want know best adwords payment for a key

is this possible ?

[slip]

i know this is going to sound like a "noob" question..but how do you get adsense to display ads that relate to these keywords on your site? add them to the meta tag in the html? or do you have to have a full website about these keywords? thanks

[Foxy]

i know this is going to sound like a "noob" question..but how do you get adsense to display ads that relate to these keywords on your site? add them to the meta tag in the html? or do you have to have a full website about these keywords? thanks

As Compar says:

The real issue is that you shouldn't be building pages for AdSense. You should be putting AdSense ads on pages with lots of good content. Build the pages for the reader, optimize them for the Search Engines, then you will get visitors who are interested in the content and will be interested in the AdSense ads. That is how you get a good CTR and that is how you make money with AdSense.

Now the answer to your question is YOU don't Google does.

G sends round its adsense spider that finds what it wants on your site and then uses that to determine the ads.

So do what Compar says.....:)

[sem-antics]

From what I've seen, the keywords that are prescription drugs which have been pulled off the market (e.g. vioxx, etc and sometimes combined with the word 'lawyer') can fetch over $50 in some case. Or did at one time.

[Mia]

Urban Legend...

[IMGster]

Mesothelioma, but you cant make money on it from adsense, to much fraud, so the advertiser turns off content

[icfire]

Well since they are two different PPC engines, of course they are going to be different. I'm guess AdWords will usually be higher since there are more advertisers bidding against each other.

No way! Yahoo publisher pays waay more then google adsense!

[Micromag]

No way! Yahoo publisher pays waay more then google adsense!

well, maybe things changed since you are quoting a post from 2 years ago (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=22752#post22752) :rolleyes:

[alemcherry]

I have got an updated list here, for anyone interested:
http://www.hostingadvices.com/keywords.htm

I personally find, for keywords in $10-20 range, I end up getting $2-3. I dont think google takes the rest, but they have a very complex mechanism to decide the cost. In fact, advertisers end up paying much less their max. bid.

[ChrisB]

great thread! :)

[austinium2002]

One more question... How much do these keyword pay?

I searched for Mesothelioma & found its synonyms(mesothelioma lawyers with highest search volume) ranging below 30$; ok if we suppose 30$.. this is what we dont get for a click. This amount is what the advertiser is going to pay for a click.

Second, I guess it also depends on where the click has been generated from. So overall, how much the publisher is going to get out of that "high paying keyword" ?

[Mia]

There is a ton of cash to be made off Mesothelioma!

[robbypham]

Hi all,
A friend sent me 23.000 keywords of highest paying keywords for contextual advertising. I have worked hard to classified them. Now you can find over 10000 keywords with 18 catagories. Please feedback if you feel ok with my site. Thank you.

_http://incomekeywords.com

[austinium2002]

I researched on some keywords again.. Mesothelioma gave highest of 49$ & insurance related gave 67$ .. but what are the chances that my site is showing *this* advertiser's ads & how much would I make if someone clicks on it?

[Mia]

About .02 cents.

[Blogspotter]

Prices since then have fallen by almost 10 times, Mesothelioma is going for 10 dollars now.

[NextWarrenBuffett]

luckily for my site:
warren buffett
.36 -.10
berkshire hathaway
.11-.05
charlie munger
1.00 - .15

the last is unusually high compared to the others

[mubin]

I researched on some keywords again.. Mesothelioma gave highest of 49$ & insurance related gave 67$ .. but what are the chances that my site is showing *this* advertiser's ads & how much would I make if someone clicks on it?

Your site will only show those ads if your content is related if you have a site about how you sued someone all likelihood is that you will get ads showing how to sue people!

http://www.feeree.com/mostmoney is another site with high paying keywords

[KenMendonca]

Can the person just getting started with online marketing take advantage of adsense anymore? Has it been relegated just the Black Hat guys? Wouldn't a newbie be better off putting a site together for a product they like and can promote as opposed to adsense when they don't have the skills to make it profitable?

[Will.Spencer]

Can the person just getting started with online marketing take advantage of adsense anymore?

Yes.

Has it been relegated just the Black Hat guys?

No.

Wouldn't a newbie be better off putting a site together for a product they like and can promote as opposed to adsense when they don't have the skills to make it profitable?

Six of one; a half dozen of the other. Some people do better with AdSense, others do better with product sites.

Myself, trying to sell products is kicking my butt. But that's just me. :o

[damiangoogle]

derivat
derivates
financial broker

[LonnyFX]

Check out the keyword 'forex' unbelievable rates!

[kevingibbons]

I wonder how much the top keywords have changed since this thread was created in 1902 :D

[iBusiness]

Any 2007 update on this thread topic ?

[Mia]

Man I hope not.. I thought this thread was long since dead and buried. ;)

[TxDon]

The last time I checked, mesothelioma was down to around $30 to $40, but that was last year sometime.

I notice that many attorney and lawyer keywords are quite high, such as 'personal injury lawyer', etc. Or they used to be, haven't checked them this year.

TxDon

[Mia]

Last I checked Mesothelioma never paid out $30, much less $100 for a single click... That is just the highest amount one would pay for such a referral/click assuming it ever reached that high of a bidding war. Expect to see mere pennies to a buck at most.

[smaxor]

Well there you go if you ever wanted to start and offline business you can see where the money is :D

Ones that I know about that are over $10/click...

Mesothelioma: $52.81
search engine optimization: $20.06
affiliate programs: $19.06
register domain: $16.91
merchant account: $15.81
domain registration: $13.88
refinance: $13.80
hard drive recovery: $13.43
buy contacts: $12.64
web hosting: $12.26
merchant accounts: $11.30
merchant account application: $11.05
student loan: $10.75
credit card application: $10.73

[World_Peace]

I think I would be making some blogs related to Lawyers. As in my opinion it is one of my interest and also the one of the high paying keywords.

[bishtar]

These keywords rate change and never be constant.

[ArmaanMagic]

mesothelioma - $1 , 80% time. Don't know how much it can give.

[Lever]

Well there you go if you ever wanted to start and offline business you can see where the money isI wouldn't base my business on figures that are more than 3 and a half years old ;)

[EReilly]

Anything that is specifically targeted to a specific legal problem will get high CPCs from attorneys.