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edr
Jan 10th 2007, 6:04 am
Is the predicted Google Page Rank as displayed by iWebTools worth anything? In two previous updates it has claimed above 80% accuracy predicting the next PR but when updates settle down my PR has not budged. Wonder if anyone else has any faith in this. As I see the new threads today about Google datacenter updates for some folks I start hoping to see the jump that iWebTool says I should expect.

KC TAN
Jan 10th 2007, 6:13 am
I do not believe in such prediction tool... one of my new site is still at PR0 but was predicted to have PR4..

ficgs
Jan 10th 2007, 6:16 am
Pagerank prediction uses current pagerank & the number of backlinks from MSN or Yahoo, right ? ... quite hard to trust it :/

toby
Jan 10th 2007, 6:16 am
the predictive tool is just to make you happier and make you wanna work harder for your site. It is also a good place to cheat newbies: I see severals wanna sell site in Buy and sell section claiming (Predicted PR5 etc).

slayer
Jan 10th 2007, 6:17 am
iwebtool sux....you can't trust those predictions

mjewel
Jan 10th 2007, 6:23 am
All PR prediction tools are, at best, a guess. It is a waste of time to use any of them - and they almost always guess on the high side.

khasmoth
Jan 10th 2007, 6:25 am
PR prediction tool isn't accurate for so many years now. PR prediction tool of iwebtool can be measured through common sense though but still it isn't accurate.

ninjashoes
Jan 10th 2007, 10:07 am
it gets you excited but I doubt it really uses the same logic and variables as google

digital1
Jan 10th 2007, 10:10 am
While I understand that a lot of people are sceptical as to whether the iWebTool PR prediction tool is accurate or not (even me) - I can say that it hasn't been wrong once with me yet. I'm also looking forward to my next PR update, if iWebTool's calculations are correct I can look forward to a couple of PR6's. I'm still optimistic.

arpitagarwal82
Jan 10th 2007, 10:21 am
It predicted PR4 with 90% + accuracy for my blog. Its still PR 0. I think iwebtool is just a toy to make ppl happy.

zoom
Jan 10th 2007, 10:24 am
This tool is not very precise....

MilesB
Jan 10th 2007, 10:28 am
Not very accurate. Predicted me pr 5 80% and now I got pr 4

bochgoch
Jan 10th 2007, 11:11 am
Please don't use PR predictions as anything other than a novelty -- people selling links on sites with predicted PR based on that predicted PR is just silly...

kittyluver
Jan 10th 2007, 11:18 am
Why do you care for PR? Just concentrate on SEO techniques to get more visitors. You'll automatically get a decent PR.

pixads
Jan 10th 2007, 11:32 am
for now it is not accurate
i will still wait till the end of the update though

drig
Jan 10th 2007, 12:02 pm
Well Im going to play devils advocate (in comparison to the other posts) and say I really like it. So far iwebtool and rustybrick? have been accurate in determining pageranks for my domains +/- 1PR. Very hellpful, and I visit the sites multiple times per week.

bargainr
Jan 10th 2007, 12:36 pm
I just wouldn't worry about it, you'll know in a couple days and in that time period you won't change anything you do so why fret over the validity of a predictor?

edr
Jan 10th 2007, 12:42 pm
There is no fretting or worrying or panic or sales pitch based on predictive tools - just a curiosity in other folks' experiences.

sgugal
Jan 10th 2007, 1:17 pm
Prediction tools ...LOL .Even Google cannt predict it :p

microdude431
Jan 10th 2007, 1:36 pm
Meh...... It's ok. It once predicted my site as a PR6, the site got a PR4. Sometimes it will work dead on. You won't find a tool that is 100% accurate.

thetafferboy83
Jan 10th 2007, 2:46 pm
PR Prediction Tools should be called PR Prediction Toys. They are a bit of fun but that is all :)

born2win
Jan 10th 2007, 7:08 pm
One of my site have PR 3. This tool says cannot determine my current PR and NA for future prediction. Now tell me can trust this tool or not.

*Mayank*
Jan 10th 2007, 8:12 pm
The tool always worked for me!

Guys..... it's just a prediction and isnt google itself.

If you say, it predicted PR4, then you also see how old the website is!
For me it said teen hut site will go either PR 4 or PR 5...
Trade point site will go PR 3 or PR 4... means kept fluctuating
Both 4 and 5 now.. hopefully as it looks... TP already 4, TH still updating

It also showed PR 3 prediction for my directoryall site... but it didnt raise PR because it was started in December... so I am sure it will be in next update. iwebtool's predictions gives me an idea on how I am doing with link building.

thetafferboy83
Jan 12th 2007, 5:18 pm
iwebtool's predictions gives me an idea on how I am doing with link building.

No, it really, really doesn't. The magic crystal see into the future PR balls do not work because PR is scalable, it is not "this is PR1, this is PR2", the goal posts constantly move and the only people who knows where they are is Google. Even entertaining the notion that these PR predictors might work is bordering on lunacy. :rolleyes:

minnseoelite
Jan 12th 2007, 6:57 pm
Those PR predition tools use info based on the total number of links reported by either MSN or Yahoo which really does no good since PR is based on the number of links in Google lol. Plus those tools do not take into account all the factors that determine a links PR value such as total number of outgoing links on a page.

mani
Jan 13th 2007, 1:30 am
It works for me and give me exactly that results which Google DO.. iwebtools tells me that i have a Predicted PR 4(3.8) with > 70% accuracy and i have got PR4 for my home page and PR 3 in most of inner pages... and thats right, it uses msn backlinks to calculate pridicted PR if you don't have google backlinks or if they are not updated yet.

britishguy
Jan 13th 2007, 1:36 am
A tool that is by a third party without privy to the algorithm it is monitoring can never be accurate

But like in many other applications a 'guesstimate' will sometimes give the result
If I was a clairvoyant (which I am not) it would be called a 'lucky tool' ;)

NYDAz
Jan 13th 2007, 1:49 am
I don't belive in this kind of tools :)

All the best

sabian1982
Jan 13th 2007, 1:56 am
I don't believe in them either really...

1. to declare or tell in advance; prophesy; foretell: to predict the weather; to predict the fall of a civilization.
2. to foretell the future; make a prediction.

At the end of the day no one can 100% say what will happen in the future - not even a computer! :p

alekzo
Jan 13th 2007, 2:26 am
For me was wrong.It predicted PR5 , but I got PR4.

Chios
Jan 13th 2007, 3:15 am
You can try the google.com/webmasters
webmaster tools > site > statistics
(of course you have to be registered with google and have an account)

it gives a much better prediction/indication (PR is not numerical there) of your sites' pagerank
but beware the "PageRank not yet assigned" is not always up to date.

For example for one of my sites, PR was already assigned - with the recent update - but it still reports that there is a lot of PR to be assigned.


and definetelly a few days before the actual update you can use
http://livepr.raketforskning.com/ to see the PR you are going to get

Slincon
Jan 13th 2007, 3:34 am
Is the predicted Google Page Rank as displayed by iWebTools worth anything? In two previous updates it has claimed above 80% accuracy predicting the next PR but when updates settle down my PR has not budged. Wonder if anyone else has any faith in this. As I see the new threads today about Google datacenter updates for some folks I start hoping to see the jump that iWebTool says I should expect.

yes it was right on the mark for me - my site now has PR 4 and another with PR 6 :D (didn't pay a cent for any links or seo stuff). So thanks digital point for the suggestions :D :D

oseymour
Jan 13th 2007, 10:29 am
the tools are a joke, all they do is guess.

trafficnotice
Jan 13th 2007, 10:41 am
The PR prediction tools make an educated guess at best. In fact, a bit of common sense and statistical calculation can be used to predict PR correctly half the time and maybe a bit better. That is why some people claim that it predicted PR correctly for them and other say it didn't. I bet that if you get a large enough sample of PR predictions this tool (and other similar ones) makes then you will find that it is correct half the time. You can do a bit better than 50% accuracy because the number of backlinks and current PR of a site can give you some strong hints about what your PR will be. This is why I said it is nothing more than an educated guess.

CountryBoy
Jan 13th 2007, 11:00 am
The iWebTools PR predictor is much better than some of the variations out there - Rusty Brick's tool is particularly suspect (ooh er missus). The truth is that it is very easy to predict that a site will achieve PR1-3 say, but after that the science becomes blurred and there are much more factors than sheer weight of back links. It's probably useful a useful predictor for a new site, but is only a guess.

sqeeze
Jan 13th 2007, 11:23 am
PR Prediction Tools should be called PR Prediction Toys. They are a bit of fun but that is all :)

Yeah, it's a weird idea to use PR prediction tools - they are based on algorithms that proceed from author's opinion about measurement of PageRank that has nothing common with real Google's algorithm of appraisal that is developing and changing all the time.

tkilgore
Jan 13th 2007, 12:45 pm
So far it is just a prediction ( tool ) at best ..I have not seen any predictions from it ..come true .. tends to be on the postive PR side.

Loco.M
Jan 13th 2007, 12:46 pm
i never believe those pr prediction tools.

trichnosis
Jan 13th 2007, 1:49 pm
iwebtool was showing predicted pr 6 for one of my sites , it has stayed the same page rank . i dont believe it

pelican
Jan 14th 2007, 5:35 am
those PR prediction tools just based on few factors to predict PR.
Google also specify certain penalties on certain pages / sites which these tools do not have any info.