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gemini181
Jan 7th 2007, 2:41 pm
Someday Good Karma Will Come Looking For You!

Our adventurous thread will "plant seeds in your brain."
You are not expected, or required, to respond on first contact, but something called Good Karma will draw you back to watch our progress. You have a very real advantage by starting today, and the later entries can also win.

The only major assumptions (part one)

In this world of over 4 Billion people there are at least 534,000,000 (534 Million) individuals who desire to "Do What They LOVE, And
Make Money". An estimated (assumed) 1 in 8 people, probably many more, would be happy to turn their fun hobbies into a lifetime of income.

Do you agree with this one major assumption?

"Yes", please read on and enjoy the challenging contests.
"No", you are still eligible to enjoy watching, and maybe change your mind.


The only major assumptions (part two)

In a huge Global marketplace we can find at least 10 to 25 people who have and want more Good Karma.
I have exceeded my own expectations, while doing what I LOVE.
All we need from you is the same desire to go the extra mile, and enjoy every moment.
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The Official Terms:
Long-Term Global Contest Rules
Short-Term Rules


Long-Term Global Contest Rules:

_ ~20% of you will end up very big winners with almost anything you desire.
- The other 80% can find peace and happiness in other ways.

We do not take any credit or blame for the long-term rules of the game.
The 20%/80% principles were defined by Prader many years ago, and we promise to add a fun, futuristic twist.


Short-Term Rules

Please, clearly answer (any number of) the questions (below) in the best way you can.


>Do not feel a need to answer them all at once.<


We have suggestions on how to add value to this effort. If you follow them your point totals will increase faster.
For maximum point scores: This thread will have more value if you get the habit of starting each post with a quick easy reference to the
sub-contest code (for example):

C1) My helpful suggestion is...

C2) Here is an original idea...

First 49 Days: When this thread goes ~48-72 hours with no 'worthwhile' new content, the contest will end. If we actually last 49 days,
the end will be 'clearly overdue', and the winners will be rewarded promptly. This post is has no outbound links, promoting any website.
The rather long time frame will give a wide variety of people a chance to participate.

Prizes: We will choose a minimum of 10 and a maximum of 25 winners (from 2 forums) based on the quality of all their responses as the
discussions evolve.

Global Note: The sub-contest "C10" will, in part, discuss inviting sponsors into this thread.
Cash prizes may be much higher than what is currently offered.

"Meal or Big Deal?"

The first round winners will be offered a very tasty choice called "Meal or Big Deal?"
It's not a blatant copy of the game show, but a fun way for you to decide how curious you are about Good Karma and related ideas.

All winners will first be told the number of points they have earned in the 'Bigger Global Contest'.
Details about the exciting next round will be released, and you will have two days to decide, "Meal or Big Deal?"
At this time we are offering a modest meal of $10 Paypal cash to our winners (much more is possible), and then they even have to make
a tough choice in order to get paid.

What is the tough choice?

You will have updated information about "the exciting next round of contests." You will have 48 hours to decide on accepting your honest cash
payment ("a meal"), or keeping the points you have earned in the large Global contest. To be fair, you can have some of each:

"Meal or Big Deal?" 1st Round Options (prior to possible sponsorship watch for updates)

$10 Cash ("a meal") in exchange for all your contest points
$5 Cash and 25 bonus points in the 'larger Global contest'
Zero cash and 75 bonus points in the 'larger Global contest'

(Important Notes: Cash prizes will be awarded, when you choose them.
As noted above it's a fun way for you to decide how curious you are about Good Karma and related Global ideas.

Please enjoy some Good Karma!

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C1) You Have $10 Million Fantasy Dollars And 1 Hour To Start Spending It!
C2) Please, help shorten the learning curve on escrow and / or escrow.com
C3) The 4 LLLL's
C4) Weekly Decision Maker Contest
C5) "Intro second part"
C6) Good Karma For The Homeless? A Bum Opinion?
C7) All Fired Up!
C8) Global Music Fun and Sponsorship
C9) DP vs. NP
C10) Futuristic Ideas On Cooperation and Competition
C11) PHP Programmers
C12) Knowledge Quote and More

Cash for first reply

One (1) cash prize, and points for the first ten qualified entries.
(((Early response bonuses will be won today and paid tomorrow, or sooner, cash by Paypal)))
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This section is a very small reward to help "get the ball rolling".
A couple dollars is very little, but keep in mind clicking to enter a post is really easy 'work'.
Terms (Note the time delay, before first entry):

-For quality reasons, do not attempt to enter all 12 contests at once. We are looking to encourage discussion, and "explore some new frontiers."
-There is a one hour 'pause' (starting the moment this post is made), before you are allowed to compete for "first entry".
-This rule will give members a chance to carefully consider the quality and content of their first response.
-The very first entry (after server time 5:41pm) will be offered 4 Global points, or $2 by Paypal. Please, state in your post if you're wanting the
cash or contest bonus points at this time.
-The 2nd through 5th responses will also get 4 points. If #1 chooses points then #2 gets the option for cash or points. The cash will be
given away to the first qualified entry to choose cash instead of points.
-Finally, the 6th through 10th posts get 2 Global bonus points for being in the early response group.

If your post is 'painfully low quality', negative points can also be issued on the Good Karma tracker.
I will sometimes 'actively' participate in this thread (not much at all today, early response bonuses will be issued tomorrow, or sooner) and
will also be busy tracking your Good Karma, and preparing for a very exciting future.

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C1) You Have $10 Million Fantasy Dollars And 1 Hour To Start Spending It!

24 Major Keywords

If you choose to, please rank these 24 major keywords in order of importance (or post your top 5, 10, 12, etc.) and offer any comments (which you
would want our sponsors to see), about why you put your top 2-5 in the highest spots:

-Wisdom
-Health
-Futuristic Vision
-Knowledge
-Content
-Live Music On .TV
-Wireless Keywords
-Alternative Energy
-Spring Break
-4 LLLL's: Listen, Laugh, Love, Lasting Memories
-High-Tech Wonders
-Poetry
-Forgiveness
-Special Pets
-Stardate2112 & .TV
-Once In A Lifetime
-Complete Visits
-Global Ecommerce Game
-Pure Community Zone
-Family
-Friendship
-Dreams
-Fun Hobbies
-Nature

A clear suggestion and tips for winning

To earn the highest possible point total in this section, please:

-Choose from the major keywords above
-Do not edit your original entry, or submit more than two lists
This format is suggested:

Keyword1 $3 Million
Keyword2 $2 Million
Keyword3 $1 Million
Keyword4 $1 Million
Keyword5 $1 Million
Keyword6 $1 Million
Keyword7 1/2 Million
Keyword8 1/2 Million

-I decided to spend $3 Million on Keyword1...(please write a sentence or short paragraph explaining your choice)
-My 'prime subsidiary' (for example) spent $2 Million on Keyword2...(we just need a minimum of 2 and a max of 5 sentences or short paragraphs
in this area)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You can spend up to $10 Million Dollars, on up to 20 keywords, in amounts of 1/2 Million up to $5 Million per keyword.
In other words, if you spend $5 Million on a single keyword, the maximum number of other words you can buy is 10 (1/2 Million
times 10 = your other $5 Million)


C2) Please, help shorten the learning curve on escrow and / or escrow.com

Long-term we need to know:

-How can a project earn the best interest income on money in escrow? Any advice on where to get the top rates and lowest fees?
-Without a lawyer: Can we write a "simple, honest, agreement" where (for example) "if these clearly defined conditions are met within 10 months,
then $xx,xxx or even up to $x,xxx,xxx or more is released to the winning contestant(s); if the clearly defined conditions are not met, then
money is returned to the sponsors? Now we submit the "simple, honest, agreement" to the escrow company, and it's legally binding?
Sure great...
...do you have relevant real-world experience?
Please, tell us about it.


C3) The 4 LLLL's

The 'real contest' is below, this first one is an example of a four letter domain and possible usage (a slogan or concept).

JNAW.com
Just Need A Way?? Just Network A Way!!!

Simple, silly, effective? What do you think? As stated above "the real contest is below", but...
Go the extra mile
If you are not honestly moved to comment, please do not. If you think "Just Need A Way?? Just Network A Way!!!" is the best possible seed
of a concept for JNAW, please let us know. Also, if you are moved to point out glaring flaws, please, feel free to say so, and / or offer
something clearly better.

The 4 LLLL's

We need creative, original, useful ideas for these LLLL domains. You are free to make entries for one or all of them. Eventually we need four
'special ones' to represent each of these four words...
4 LLLL's: Listen, Laugh, Love, Lasting Memories... Now, I know only 2 of the 7 actually have a letter 'L' in the domain name, so you can still
have a slogan or concept which relates to Love or Laughter (for example) without using an 'L' word.

Whether you fully understand or not, please, just use your imagination and instincts:

KFRK.com

IHHY.com

BGJO.com

IKHK.com

IPKH.com

OHLK.com

OLKG.com



C4) Weekly Decision Maker Contest

This Global thread has twelve sections labeled C1), C2), etc.

Please take a moment to copy our helpful 'decision maker format' (the first section below) into Notepad on your computer, and eventually
delete the extra notes:

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C1) (These spots are for you to give recognition to another members input)
Please, make sure you use their forum name, and quote their input (or at least quote part of it)


C2)



C3)



C4) Don't pick a winner for 'C4' the first week (see below).



C5)



C6)



C7)



C8) This section opens next week, please ignore for now.



C9)



C10) This section opens next week, please ignore for now.



C11)



C12)



My best of the week) Choose one single entry (a post or portion of a post) which you made this week, and you consider most worthy of notice.


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Very Important: You are also able to nominate winners in the Decision Maker Contest, starting the end of the second week. Based on
entries from the previous week.

This is a Weekly Decision Maker Contest. You have been provided an easy format to track and decide which contributions (from other
contestants and yourself) are adding the most value to this thread. Once a week, starting next Sat-Sun, please, submit your entries in
the proper format.

Tips:

You could use 'the format' (at home on your computer) to 'nominate' valuable entries throughout the week (meaning you copy paste them into your
Notepad form and pick the winners later).
Then save by two different names (ie. 'nominated' and 'winners'). Now (later) trim the list to a maximum of two per section (all from other
members not yours), and one of your own, and save the new list as 'winners'. Now your entry should be ready to copy/paste and post
(starting next weekend).

Important Note: You are not 'forced' to pick winners in every category every week. We want your decisions to reflect your standards of quality
and value. For maximum points you should enter this part of the contest once per week, but you do not have to pick a winner in every section,
every week. Before the contest is over, please, make at least one single decision in every contest.


C5) "Intro Second Part":

We are looking for you to honestly evaluate the statements below. Is the writing quality low, medium, or high? Why?
Do you have any changes to suggest?
Are you moved to actually answer the questions in exchange for points in this contest?

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Are You an extremely creative visionary, with at least some 'real-world' skills?
How about an effective, balanced, responsible 'real-world' leader, with more than a touch of wild futuristic vision?
"Yes" to either means you really would enjoy entering our exciting Global contests.

You may be asked to make key decisions based on instinct rather than the security of following a trend in progress.
One of our favorite ways to describe the initial contest is "lead, follow, or share a good laugh!"

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Much more can be added to this contest section later.

C6) Good Karma For The Homeless? A Bum Opinion?

Note: This section is ~99% crazy.
We are not clearly stating every detail, just a basic idea, followed by your input.
I value your honest opinions.

Sponsor motivation: Advertising, good karma, possibly an 'ad co-op' for your team.

Vision: A fun, unique way to help people, and also promote 'everyday common acceptance' of .TV and other futuristic projects.
'First Draft' Of Idea:

(((I know some street bums are 'phony' and actually live in decent homes.
Your input will help pick the people who really deserve Good Karma)))

Sponsors (motivation listed above) will provide the money to help several lucky, 'worthwhile' homeless people in Chicago.
The 'very casual early stages':
During the 'very casual early stages' all income is fully reported as taxable, even what I give away! (to avoid any chance of future hassles
with the IRS). Expenses are quite low, and about 75-90% of the money is given away directly to needy people (this is a much higher % than the
average charity is able to give away.

One of many versions (for example) has me 'chatting with a bum' long enough to decide if they deserve good Karma.
They will receive ~$10 to keep and a pile of 10 one dollar bills with a paper clip and business card on each $1. The instructions could be,
"If you accept this $10 bill, you are honor bound to pass out the ten singles (with business cards) to ten different, well-dressed people
in the next 30 minutes. We have ways to know if you actually pass them out, and might have more money for you in the future."

The business card can have sponsor ads and / or a brief LLLL URL (for example) with the website of the 'sponsor's team or futuristic
prime subsidiary'. In theory the 'well dressed people' could really pay attention to those ads. Also, the whole experience provides
unique, sometimes valuable content for 'your team'.

Do you think the pleasant surprise of receiving $1 bill w/ the business card "overcomes the shabby appearance of the bum", and
makes a good promotion?

Would you be an early sponsor? Why or why not??

Advanced "Reality .TV" stages:

(Please remember, you are reading a 'first draft', in this section)

I personally do not like 'Reality TV' much at all. It's showing no signs of going away, so why don't we make it better? We could eventually
have a .TV show which elevates homeless people (who have Good Karma) into a much happier life (at this time, I do not know of any other show
like this).

It's not hard (for me and others) to come up with dozens of truly original ideas, or even 1000's of unique combinations of existing ideas.
We will be exploring ways to start projects in fun 'casual early stages', which have the potential to be a big hit in the 'real world',
and reward (with residual income) the teams and individuals who make things happen.


C7) All Fired Up!!

Anyone with a computer can claim, "It's a great time to start something on the Net!!!"
Well we all have computers :)

http://jnaw.com/images/hands_high.jpg

Alt Link For Graphic If Server Goes Down (http://blog4cancer.net/images/hands_high.jpg)

Please, give your honest opinion of the quality, originality, and effectiveness of the above graphic. Give a response of a sentence or two,
or perhaps an entire paragraph.

The "All Fired Up!!" contest section will have several more graphics presented in the near future, for you to evaluate and post a decision.

C8) Global Music Fun and Sponsorship
This section opens next week, please ignore for now.

C9) DP vs. NP

I have been more active at DP, but both forums are on equal ground for this Global contest. If you are a member of both, please, choose only
one thread for this ambitious contest (NP or DP, not both).
We will have a bare minimum of at least 3-8 winners from both forums (for example if we have only ten overall winners, at least three would come
from the 'lesser effort' and seven from the 'winning forum'. With 25 winners, 17 spots go to the leading community and 8 to the other. Also, all
first-round cash prizes are boosted by 25% for winners from the 'winning forum'.

C10) Futuristic Ideas On Cooperation and Competition

This section opens next week, please ignore for now.

C11) PHP Programmers

Good PHP Programmers know they can charge a fairly high price. This section may or may not get a response.
If you:

1) Consider yourself a talented, creative, competent programmer.
2) Would consider doing some modifications in exchange for "Global contest points and futuristic leadership opportunities."

Then, please, post here or PM me with the title "PHP".
Then someday, Good Karma Will Come Looking For You.

Global Note: If we do get public programmer entries, then your "Weekly Decision Maker Contest" post can help to pick 'qualified
applicants', based on the statements made in their post(s). These decisions can be tough to make, please, comment if you want to.

C12) Knowledge Quote and More

Knowledge Quote

This quote is slated to be very proudly featured in a futuristic section called 'Open Source Fantasy.' Based only on the information provided
here, please, answer the questions which follow.

"Pleasure is a shadow, Wealth is vanity, and Power is a pageant;
but Knowledge is ecstatic in enjoyment, perennial in frame, unlimited in space and infinite in duration." -De Witt Clinton

Do you like the quote?
Would you ever consider using it in a project which is important to you?
Clearly, it is "Very Geeky" and not for everyone, but most people would at least "respect it a little bit." Yes or No? Why?

Do you have one or two "really good quotes" which will tell us something about you, when you share them with us?
Please, make sure you give credit to the original author or speaker.

Dedication

This is something I wrote myself (below), 100% original, carefully choosing every word. Please give your brutally honest opinion, and tell
me if "I should be happy with it" and / or "showing it in a very visible place?" Why?
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"This effort is dedicated to all who have the courage to explore their own unique, exciting vision of the future, while remembering to enjoy today."
-The Seeker
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jayL
Jan 7th 2007, 2:52 pm
I wasn't able to understand the whole thing, to cut it short, what is it?

gemini181
Jan 7th 2007, 3:05 pm
I wasn't able to understand the whole thing, to cut it short, what is it?"In this world of over 4 Billion people there are at least 534,000,000 (534 Million) individuals who desire to 'Do What They LOVE, And
Make Money'. An estimated (assumed) 1 in 8 people, probably many more, would be happy to turn their fun hobbies into a lifetime of income."

We are exploring new ways to have fun and make money.
We will translate into several lang.'s ASAP

Thank you for asking :)

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 5:11 pm
Ya that sounds good will bookmark this thread. Who wouldnt want to do something they love andmake money? Plus maybe get some good ideas here :)

I am about to rank the keywords now.

gemini181
Jan 7th 2007, 5:16 pm
Ya that sounds good will bookmark this thread. Who wouldnt want to do something they love andmake money? Plus maybe get some good ideas here :)

I am about to rank the keywords now.The first person to complete a brief, interesting, accurate reply, to any 1 of 12 sections, will win $2 right now. You are only halfway there. :)

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 5:55 pm
-4 LLLL's: Listen, Laugh, Love, Lasting Memories (2 mil) - all four of these l words are important and I think memories are something you can keep for a lifetime.
-Family (1) - family is always at the top of my list before business.
-Friendship (1) - always looking for good friends whether in business or life.
-Health (1) - I want to stay healthy and eat and exercise well.
-Wisdom (1) - It's important to learn something every day.
-Once In A Lifetime (1) - Many things I hope I get to do once in my life.
-Futuristic Vision (1) - Dont hesitate on the past but look to the future.
-Knowledge (1) - Kinda goes with wisdom
-Content (1) - Unique content is what makes me different

there ;)

login
Jan 7th 2007, 6:00 pm
-4 LLLL's: Listen, Laugh, Love, Lasting Memories (2 mil) - all four of these l words are important and I think memories are something you can keep for a lifetime.
-Family (1) - family is always at the top of my list before business.
-Friendship (1) - always looking for good friends whether in business or life.
-Health (1) - I want to stay healthy and eat and exercise well.
-Wisdom (1) - It's important to learn something every day.
-Once In A Lifetime (1) - Many things I hope I get to do once in my life.
-Futuristic Vision (1) - Dont hesitate on the past but look to the future.
-Knowledge (1) - Kinda goes with wisdom
-Content (1) - Unique content is what makes me different

there ;)

I have got all that already, what now ? I am getting bored, hmm.. oh yes, tomorrow I will climb mount everest, I almost forgot.

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 6:03 pm
You making fun of me? Lets see you do better :P

login
Jan 7th 2007, 6:12 pm
You making fun of me? Lets see you do better :P

Its more like I make fun of myself:D

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 6:15 pm
o, ok then I gave u some rep!

lol

gemini181
Jan 7th 2007, 6:18 pm
-4 LLLL's: Listen, Laugh, Love, Lasting Memories...
Very nice, thanks :)
I sent your payment.

Do you know the guy who started KFC had the persistence to make over 700 presentations before getting a single 'Yes'?
Do you know Richard Branson helped every one of his 'subsidiary CEO's' (referring to top leaders of each Virgin Inc. division) make a huge fortune?
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Note to all: I still have some trouble relating to people and explaining myself clearly.

Here is one of many ways to explain the contest in a very short, attention grabbing manner:

Start with these song lyrics

"I'm not giving in to security under pressure
I'm not missing out on the promise of adventure
I'm not giving up on implausible dreams
Experience to extremes..." -Neil Pert
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now replace 'I' with 'we':

"We're not giving in to security under pressure
We're not missing out on the promise of adventure
We're not giving up on implausible dreams
Experience to extremes..." -With credit to Neil Pert


Would the above words ever, even maybe, inspire you to quit a very secure, "life-long type" of job?
Why or why not?

(Edit: This does not imply you need to quit your current job for the Global contest)

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Alternative relevant questions: Do you have an exciting dream?
Something, anything which motivates you to reach way beyond your current experience and abilities?
How do you share your exciting dream or vision with people "who would be better off, and happier, if you are able to lead effectively?"
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Everything else you need to know, for know, is in the first post.
>>Please, Do not feel a need to answer them all at once.<<
The Good Karma contest is ment to be done in sections, or modules, if you will.

Futures_Equity
Jan 7th 2007, 6:21 pm
Would the above words ever, even maybe, inspire you to quit a very secure, "life-long type" of job?
Why or why not?
No, I don't plan to ever a life-long job ever and I don't need to be inspired. Are you going to give any more offers like the other one for paypal $$?

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 6:23 pm
No, you need something more inspiring.

And ya i knew that about the kfc guy I been to his house :))

gemini181
Jan 7th 2007, 6:27 pm
No, you need something more inspiring.

And ya i knew that about the kfc guy I been to his house :))Can you give, or explain, an example of what type of writing inspires you?

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 6:36 pm
I think that is broad. I am a details man. Maybe include more of what this is used for would help me.? What goals do I have from quitting. What's going to be better now, how long will it take me to accomplish.. I could give more with more details.

jelf

gemini181
Jan 7th 2007, 6:47 pm
I think that is broad. I am a details man. Maybe include more of what this is used for would help me.? What goals do I have from quitting. What's going to be better now, how long will it take me to accomplish.. I could give more with more details.

jelf Your feedback helps, it was unclear, and has been edited some.

"What goals do I have from quitting."

No one is asking you to quit a curent job.
The key is the security of a "life-long job" when a different path the only possible way to do something really exciting and fun.
Some people can "work on their dreams part-time", while holding a good job. Others will never set really exciting goals (reasons to jump out of bed in the morning), until they leave the 'secure nest.'

Would really exciting dreams, and doing what you LOVE, ever motivate you (or anyone else) to quit an easy, boring, secure job?

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 7:04 pm
YES! ;) (hope this helps)

sam2698
Jan 7th 2007, 7:15 pm
So let me get the concept straight, I give you a good structured answer the way you like it and I get $2?

Jelf
Jan 7th 2007, 7:19 pm
So let me get the concept straight, I give you a good structured answer the way you like it and I get $2?

lol no. :mad:

gemini181
Jan 7th 2007, 11:26 pm
So let me get the concept straight, I give you a good structured answer the way you like it...

C1-C12) There are 12 sub-contests, are several of them are very free of excess structure.
Imagination and fun, futuristic vision are suggested.

The first response has been paid promptly.
This thread will remain open, and early entries are still getting bonus points.

Related $101.34 single-winner cash contest coming soon???

1) The single winner contest will be different enough to deserve a separate thread.
2) You will not be required to actively participate in this thread.
3) Reading this thread, and attempting to understand it will be suggested for a decent chance of winning the $101.34.

If this thread is able to show some exciting signs of evolution (before the other contest begins), the extra money can be used here.
As of this writing quality control is pushing for the related $101.34 single-winner cash contest to be done separately.

Jelf
Jan 8th 2007, 10:44 am
Can you explain the other sub contests better plz :)

jelf

debunked
Jan 8th 2007, 12:17 pm
my head hurts........

I will go back and just read one section to see if I understand it.

gemini181
Jan 8th 2007, 8:02 pm
my head hurts........

I will go back and just read one section to see if I understand it.
Please, let me know if this helps:

Good Karma updates:

1) Issues regarding Registered Trademarks, Non-Disclosure Agreements, etc, motivated us to conceive of a "Fun, Futuristic, Mysterious, Global Ecommerce Adventure Game."

2) The purpose of the game is to build a solid foundation which allows you, and your team(s) to "Do What You LOVE, and make money, for the rest of your life."

3) In the grand tradition of Richard 'Virgin Inc' Branson, the leaders of our prime subsidiaries (divisions) all (eventually) stand to become phenomenally wealthy based on the success of their 'team'.

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C10) Futuristic Ideas On Cooperation and Competition

"Long-Term Global Contest Rules:

_ ~20% of you will end up very big winners with almost anything you desire.
- The other 80% can find peace and happiness in other ways.

We do not take any credit or blame for the long-term rules of the game.
The 20%/80% principles were defined by Prader many years ago, and we promise to add a fun, futuristic twist."

The Prader 20%/80% success principles (haven't you ever heard of his studies?) are amazing because they work with so many different types of people and industries.

At this fun, very early stage we can experiment with C10) Futuristic Ideas On Cooperation and Competition.

We will form teams.
We can enjoy both cooperating and competing in ways never attempted before.
By definition (The Prader 20%/80% principles) have determined ~20% of us will all end up rich beyond our wildest dreams. It is destined to happen, you need to be enthusiastic, persistent and enjoy the journey.
I, after having made sure our top winners are all happy, will give away much of my fortune in a series of futuristic Fun and Happy contests and promotions.

Why?
I respect Richard Branson, but do not want to end up like him.
One of my fun goals is to be an "Internet version" of the late, great Bill Veeck.

Who?
If you participate in this long-term adventure you are dealing with someone who wants to be a "Happy Promoter", and pioneer huge, memorable, original promotions and contests on the Net.

Read this part, please:

1) I have literally hundreds of original ideas and 1000's of unique combinations of existing ideas which have never been tried on the Internet.
My eventual success is more than likely (with or without any 'help, or teams')
2) Prader's principles prove ~20% of you can be / will be massively rich.
3) I'm not too concerned about what you think about me respecting Bill Veeck, but giving the money away will be fun. :D
4) We will, among other things, build a massive, Futuristic, PPA (Pay-Per-Action) Network, and organize information unlike anyone ever has before.
5) Somewhere in the world exists at least 10-25 people who will notice my determination, vision, effort, extreme creativity, and unique combinations of ideas.
6) The large prizes will be paid from escrow, so you do not have to trust me. We will also successfully start the fastest paying, legitimate affiliate program on the Internet.

I'm asking you to join a very fun experiment, and have a good chance of gaining something from it, whether it be knowledge, money, great memories, etc.

gemini181
Jan 8th 2007, 8:22 pm
Can you explain the other sub contests better plz :)

jelfC4) Weekly Decision Maker Contest

This is for you to choose our leaders.

The 'helpful format' (just copy it into Notepad, and eventually delete the 'extra notes') is to track the good feedback (in this contest) given to our other contestants by you. Just vote for best post of the week, or overall contribution (up to two members per section) in a once a week entry.
Quote at least part of their effort, and remember to mention their forum name.
The quote can be from a previous week, as long as you did not copy/paste it before.
Extra credit: When inspired to, please, share thoughts on why you are 'voting' to give the recognition.
Other future leaders will, possibly, learn things about you based on the quality, wisdom, and effort, of your weekly decisions.

This is how you will choose our top team leaders.
Does someone have a better plan?
What is wrong with this one??

Also, a future leader would eventually re-read C4) Weekly Decision Maker Contest to explore suggestions not mentioned here.

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Note to self: Contact former school teacher and have her give feedback on my writing skills, or lack of them.
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debunked
Jan 8th 2007, 9:42 pm
Now narrow down the contest or at least make it obvious that someone can pick a section and run with it. Your payouts are ambiguous and the few mentioned are small (fine to give people quick bucks to prove you are legit though)

Is your goal to establish a dozen new sites that end up being like youtube in popularity?

gemini181
Jan 9th 2007, 12:23 pm
Now narrow down the contest or at least make it obvious that someone can pick a section and run with it. Your payouts are ambiguous and the few mentioned are small (fine to give people quick bucks to prove you are legit though)

Is your goal to establish a dozen new sites that end up being like youtube in popularity?
1) For the moment this thread stands 'as is' for any type of input based on what I've already posted.
The contest is 'still running', and it's a wide open adventure.

I will promise to do a much more complete job answering all your questions later, or perhaps a future leader will step up and share some thoughts.

2) Valid reasons for a more focused one or two winner cash contest, in a new thread:

-The exciting new contest starts with a poll (at the start), which can not be done here.
-The new event has cash prizes in amounts starting at $15.38 and ending at $1 Billion (paid to your team, straight from escrow, or multiple escrow companies)
-My comments from yesterday, show the prizes for your teams will also be up to $1 Billion in this thread.
C4) Weekly Decision Maker Contest
-To promote balance and harmony you can quote part of your own entry in the new contest, when self-nominating your best effort of the week, in this thread.

Here it is: The Build A Better Contest Event (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=215602)

gemini181
Jan 10th 2007, 9:03 pm
Can you explain the other sub contests better plz :)

jelf
Yes, I can.

C1) You Have $10 Million Fantasy Dollars And 1 Hour To Start Spending It!
C2) Please, help shorten the learning curve on escrow and / or escrow.com
C3) The 4 LLLL's
C4) Weekly Decision Maker Contest
C5) "Intro second part"
C6) Good Karma For The Homeless? A Bum Opinion?
C7) All Fired Up!
C8) Global Music Fun and Sponsorship
C9) DP vs. NP
C10) Futuristic Ideas On Cooperation and Competition
C11) PHP Programmers
C12) Knowledge Quote and More

1) Each one comes with detailed suggestions on how your feedback is valuable, and exact guidelines to make things pretty easy, if you try.

2) Some are about decision-making, leadership, vision, and enthusiasm.

3) One was clearly labeled 99% crazy. What did you think of that section? Why?

I hope this helps.
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If you are a friend of mine in the real (offline) world.

Thank you for looking, please, send me a private email, or comment here.
I'm aware this effort appears to have huge flaws. Some of the 'flaws' are clues in a mysterious adventure.
Would anybody in the world try to duplicate (steal) this attempt at building contest teams, in it's current form? "NO!!!"
This is a small part of a fun, unique, actually useful, and impossible to copy journey into the future.

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All others: Big news!

I made a short, effective presentation today (to someone who has not seen this 'contest').
They were extremely impressed with my vision, specific ideas, and ambition.
We've agreed to have a series of meetings.
I'm very enthusiastic about this news, because the person is highly competent.
I know I'm, just a 'foolish dreamer.' :)

Temporary Status: Every single section C1-C12) has suggestions for you to give helpful feedback.
Some are as simple as giving a reaction to a quote or a graphic.
I suppose I asked too much, so I will make the same 'mistake' once again.

Anyone reading this thread has two options during the Temporary Status.

Let the thread die, or...

Understand this:

1) Ecommerce is so huge anyone with, vision, motivation, and a "team", can retire very wealthy within a few years.

2) The 'team' needs to be a variety of people who want to do what they Love, and make money (ie. turning hobbies into fun income).

3) If you have any knowledge of:

a) The genius of Richard (Virgin Inc) Branson (The incentives he gave to his 'team')
b) The 20%/80% success principles (Prader)
c) The fun, happy marketing pioneer Bill Veeck (a former baseball team owner famous for new promotions)

Then it should be clear (on today's Internet) at least 20% of the population can set fun, exciting goals and be rich for life within a few years.

I honestly need to know why, or how, any of this is not really clear and very exciting?
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1) Read the first post to find both clues and very detailed, sometimes clear suggestions.
2) Use your imagination to create some enthusiasm!
3) Be the first to 'declare in public' you are "the interim CEO of a Futuristic Prime Subsidiary."
4) Use your leadership skills to apply the information you gathered in Step #1
5) Experiment with a balance between cooperation and competition.
6) You are in charge while I am preparing for an important series of meetings offline.
7) When someone else thinks they can do a better job than a leader who has taken over (if that actually happens), then be the second to
declare a major leadership position is filled.
8) Now, you are both cooperating and competing with the other leader.
For advice on what to actually do, please, check Step #1.

debunked
Jan 10th 2007, 9:43 pm
Hmmm.... $10 million in one hour? (what does the Fy stand for?)

I would spend it on a business venture, but I think that is part of what you are looking at.

1. Live cam social club - cross between Utube and myspace
using webcam - but recording directly onto site to do a blog with no other software needed.
2. set up dating through same site as extra charge
3. categories can be such as professional, social, vlog, etc
4. still shot generator that takes random stills from peoples pages and builds a today shot or 5 sec clips from most popular vids playing.

5 must be registered and can be reported and banned if inappropriate material is presented.

6. Have software that can turn your video into cartoon type characters that can be dubbed over

Payout for best of category each month to create word of mouth advertising.
OR Make the payout like MLM, so the more people bring in and those they brought in bring in the more the payout would be.

-- just a strange thought I had tonight...

debunked
Jan 23rd 2007, 7:12 pm
what other forum was this posted on? Any activity going on there?

Dextrone
Feb 16th 2007, 8:07 pm
"C1) You Have $10 Million Fantasy Dollars And 1 Hour To Start Spending It!"

Well, I have 1 hour to start SPENDING it (and it doesn't mean I have to spend it ALL), SO I just spend 1$ in the best way possible (charity to a random poor person) and think about what to do with the rest......

But anyway:

1>Family--More important than life
2>Health--More important than friends
After Everything else that's more important>Futuristic Vision

I'll take the points...if I get it the way you like it