View Full Version : Mesothelioma - Legal Advice & other high value kw's...
mopacfan
Jul 28th 2004, 6:39 am
I'm just curious how many here, if any, have created content on one or more sites that target high value AdWords such as Mesothelioma or Legal Advice or Workman's Comp, etc? These are high dollar k/w's and a very tempting opportunity. I'm wondering how successful anyone's been setting up content for such words.
T0PS3O
Jul 28th 2004, 6:54 am
Fill this thread with tons of good info and lively discussions and you will be rewarded through the top ads.
schlottke
Jul 28th 2004, 7:05 am
I've created sites that were about high priced keywords, but not to just manipulate the adsense..
SEbasic
Jul 28th 2004, 7:11 am
I just did dome checking on the term Mesothelioma at ovetrture. It's max bid was only like $0.11
Mesothelioma Compensation or asbestosis compensation got like $1.00
Not all that much buck really...
4kids
Jul 28th 2004, 7:37 am
I tried to avoid those subjects in law school ... :rolleyes:
mopacfan
Jul 28th 2004, 8:23 am
The bids for Mesothelioma must have come done like a rock. They were around $60 a click late last year.
SEbasic
Jul 28th 2004, 8:42 am
That's what I thought.
schlottke
Jul 28th 2004, 9:14 am
Shame - its because hundreds of people made BS sites to target them...
SEbasic
Jul 28th 2004, 9:28 am
Yep - I bet they did REALLY well out of that ;)
hdpt00
Jul 28th 2004, 9:39 am
Um, I thinkyou might have mispelled it or something putting it in... "mesothelioma" are $100/click for the top 3 bids. Holy crap!
SEbasic
Jul 28th 2004, 9:42 am
Weird, I guess I did... ??????
roflol...
Ah well, maybe I should get some more sits running legal advice ;)
Man $100 a click!!!!!!!!!
WOW.
digitalpoint
Jul 28th 2004, 10:10 am
Um, I thinkyou might have mispelled it or something putting it in... "mesothelioma" are $100/click for the top 3 bids. Holy crap!
You sure about that? Considering the highest bid allowed is $50?
digitalpoint
Jul 28th 2004, 10:12 am
Nevermind, I just looked... and it looks like they raised the maximum bid from $50 to $100.
NewComputer
Jul 28th 2004, 11:39 am
I find it really sad that some people are making so much money from something that should really not be an option for making money. People are dying... Asbestos exposure is a terrible thing and the lung cancer it causes should not be something that Google or anyone else makes money from.
hdpt00
Jul 28th 2004, 11:53 am
That is like saying a company that makes caskets should give them away for free. Come on now.
NewComputer
Jul 28th 2004, 12:10 pm
Is it? Explain the correlation between someone who builds a website to get rich off of someone doing a search for someones serious illness and someone charging for building and selling a casket.
hdpt00
Jul 28th 2004, 12:33 pm
Well they are both profiting off of someone's misfortune. If someone purposely builds a site to profit off of asbestos, yah it might not be the most moral thing in your opinion. But in their opinion they might see it as helping someone out who does have the problem. Either way someone is going to be making money off of their misfortune. Now the lawyer gets a little bit less.
With caskets the same thing applies, someone is making a lot of money putting together wood. It might be even worse. Some people can barely afford to bury their loved ones.
Some might think it is wrong to profit off another one's misfortunes, but it is going to happen. Lawyers aren't going to work for free and funeral services aren't going to give away caskets. People need to make money and some do it however they can.
Of course I am not saying building a site like this is the best way to make money and it is something I personally wouldn't do, but for other peope it is perfectly fine.
disgust
Jul 28th 2004, 2:40 pm
and you could argue that in both cases an ideal business would be trying to help the people that are in that situation..
schlottke
Jul 28th 2004, 3:43 pm
Well I think sites targetting it AND not falsifying the clicks, is fine. Since if someone found it and clicked, its the same. I find it difficult to see that always being the case.
fryman
Jul 31st 2004, 9:28 pm
The real problem with the mesothelioma sites is that people are just building them and filling it up with BS. I've seen projects at freenlancer sites asking people to write a few articles about lung cancer.
They don'r give a rat's a*s about helping people, they just want to have a page with a high keyword density to get those high priced ads showing.
Anyway, there are now 2,540,000 results for that keyword, so getting a good ranking for such a site would be really tough.
THT
Aug 28th 2004, 1:46 pm
i wish i even knew what the word meant!
ive done some casino stuff before but that was easier to get opeople but not as high paying!
anthonycea
Aug 28th 2004, 2:02 pm
You can know all about it, I have bottles of asbestos dust for sale, $19.95 by PayPal.
For more information see www.getMesothelioma&aLawyer.com
Simple instructions on how to get your settlement, take a deep breath, call a doctor, get a lawyer.
schlottke
Aug 28th 2004, 5:57 pm
Whats your paypal email, I want some.
schlottke
Aug 28th 2004, 6:00 pm
Oh, and if you want to know what the word means, here is some Mesothelioma Information (http://www.jrwrestling.com/mesothelioma/mesothelioma-attorney.php)
anthonycea
Aug 28th 2004, 6:07 pm
Just put the link for the dust on your page, I will send it to Compar for his page also. Good way to drum up business for everyone. :o
schlottke
Aug 28th 2004, 9:01 pm
Ok no problem anthony, links being added.. :)
anthonycea
Aug 28th 2004, 9:12 pm
Its a two pronged attack, thinking about putting up a site to sell cigarettes, I will run Adsense on the site to sell life insurance and health insurance ads to complete the profit circle.
I want to cover every corner as far as profit centers for the site are concerned. :D
schlottke
Aug 29th 2004, 12:33 am
No question - Selling Asbestos, Giving them attorneys, perhaps a funeral arrangement page too... pick some good keywords.
Trance-formation
Aug 29th 2004, 1:55 am
Is it? Explain the correlation between someone who builds a website to get rich off of someone doing a search for someones serious illness and someone charging for building and selling a casket.
The only ones getting anything like rich are the lawyers... and they are the only ones likely to be taking any money from the sufferers of the disease. Maybe we should be encouraging action groups to put up web sites with adsense, so they can get a little of the money back:-)
schlottke
Aug 29th 2004, 5:17 pm
The groups do have these sites.
anthonycea
Aug 29th 2004, 5:28 pm
Im a numbskull, can I get some money from running those ads on my site?
Bet those numbskull sickness ads pay big bucks too :eek:
philr
Sep 2nd 2004, 6:50 am
Just putting in this post in case i get a payment like $66 for a click
SEbasic
Sep 2nd 2004, 7:20 am
You only get paid of you START the thread.
T0PS3O
Sep 2nd 2004, 7:21 am
I just clicked the top AdWords ad for the search on this word... They must be paying a lot but look at the page: http://www.legalranks.com/mesothelioma.htm
Even if pay-out is 90% it still wouldn't work because they are nowhere in the natural listings and no incoming links to pull traffic.
caroline
Sep 3rd 2004, 11:51 am
A sad keyword to target, I guess.
mopacfan
Sep 3rd 2004, 12:01 pm
Well I can tell you that even though I started the thread, I've not gotten rich off of it :( In fact, the total amount I've made here on DP won't even pay for lunch :) I was just curious how many others actually create sites with content targeted at these keywords just to pull in adsense revenue. It seems the number, overall (not just DP members) is actually quite high. I've been considering it, but right now, the time it would take outweighs the potential reward.
digitalpoint
Sep 3rd 2004, 12:05 pm
Well generally CTR in forums is pretty low...
schlottke
Sep 3rd 2004, 1:57 pm
What do you think the average on a forum is? I know of the ones I run is around .7
caroline
Sep 3rd 2004, 2:00 pm
For my Forum it used to be 0.2, now I just don't check the numbers. It's depressing.
You only get paid of you START the thread.
what is the sharing deal? i thought the starter got 50%, and each follower still get some unknown%.
SEbasic
Sep 3rd 2004, 3:12 pm
I was wrong. I don't know exactly how it works. Ask Shawn.
digitalpoint
Sep 3rd 2004, 4:11 pm
It has the details in the FAQ:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/faq.php?faq=revenue_sharing
joeychgo
Sep 7th 2004, 6:43 pm
How does one find out how much specific keywords are worth?
disgust
Sep 7th 2004, 6:46 pm
www.google.com/adwords
plug in some sample KWs and have it calculate things for you, that's the closest you'll get
joeychgo
Sep 7th 2004, 6:54 pm
ill give it a try, see what I can learn -- thanks
joeychgo
Sep 7th 2004, 7:58 pm
mesothelioma show's about 57.00 for me.......
schlottke
Sep 7th 2004, 11:29 pm
however, the keywords are generated off all page content so you could easily make just 4 cents when I spell MESOTHELOMA wrong to ruin the thread so people stop posting.
david_sakh
Sep 8th 2004, 1:40 pm
I might just do this. :D
Although I'm going to have to somehow relate Workman's Comp with Freeware Games or people are going to be REALLY confused. :)
joeychgo
Sep 8th 2004, 1:46 pm
however, the keywords are generated off all page content so you could easily make just 4 cents when I spell MESOTHELOMA wrong to ruin the thread so people stop posting.
Please explain this more
schlottke
Sep 8th 2004, 1:51 pm
site owners pay for the keywords used on the page, and adsense generates their ads based on those words. Since I misspelled mesothelioma; "mesotheloma", people paying for the misspelling (which is obiviously going to be cheaper) will get ad time. That way this thread wouldnt be taking advantage of the terms.
joeychgo
Sep 8th 2004, 2:21 pm
Interesting...... thanks
Phoenix
Sep 8th 2004, 2:33 pm
mesothelioma show's about 57.00 for me.......
I know and coming super late on this thread, just thought I would throw in my 3 cents. You could judge by what google adwords gives you or from the standpoint of the disease itself. In reality each year there are only like 1000 people max that get this disease from what I understand, however Overture shows stats of like 1200 people a day search for it. So competition for these 1000 is so fierce people stop at nothing, like pay 50 to $100 a click. Its bizarre, but I think the ratio of what you would pay in google adword out weighs the reward like 1000x.
david_sakh
Sep 9th 2004, 6:47 am
100 bucks? that's INSANE!
I wonder how profitable it is to relate cancer information :blink:
digitalpoint
Sep 9th 2004, 7:05 am
It's not profitable. The ones that pay a lot are the lawyers.
melfan
Sep 9th 2004, 8:12 am
100 bucks? that's INSANE!
I wonder how profitable it is to relate cancer information :blink:
You will be disappointed. Its only about .15 to .25 per click
How does one find out how much specific keywords are worth?
I have a program ranking keywords CPC cost. You can give me a list of the keywords you are looking for, then I can give you a rank among them: Which one is the highest paied, which is the second highest paid etc. The program is not free. I charge $1 per key word/phrase.
schlottke
Sep 9th 2004, 7:24 pm
Unless you set the page up properly, your wasting your time and someone's 30cents.
You will be disappointed. Its only about .15 to .25 per click
i tried the M word too. Very bad. worse than other more popular things.
Chiara
Sep 9th 2004, 8:48 pm
You will be disappointed. Its only about .15 to .25 per click
I'd have to disagree. :D
Chiara
Sep 9th 2004, 8:53 pm
100 bucks? that's INSANE!
I wonder how profitable it is to relate cancer information :blink:
My site is health-related and it just happens to include mesothelioma as a natural topic. Wasn't planned that way. I think it's a mistake to make phony meso sites just for the clicks. People who say it's only a few cents per click are wrong, but there are other cancer topics that make just as much if not more.
joeychgo
Sep 9th 2004, 9:00 pm
Unless you set the page up properly, your wasting your time and someone's 30cents.
Would seem to me your not wasting your time if your getting clicked.....
Its simple. I dont care of you have a 10 word page. If someone finds your page, and subsequently the ad, and clicks it - they do so because the ad interested them, and thus is worth the click cost for the advertiser - they only care that people interested in their product click the ads and hopefully buy something.
If you provide a way for someone interested in their product click the ad, then they got the value they expected from the cost of the ad.
AND if you create a page that draws people to that page who subsequently click the ads, then your making money and its not a waste of your time.
Simple.
schlottke
Sep 9th 2004, 10:27 pm
I'm talking about people setting up Mesothelioma and asbestos related pages..
disgust
Sep 9th 2004, 10:35 pm
what most people aren't taking into consideration, though, is the simple fact that the supply/demand ration (demand being those interested in mesothelioma, supply being being the number of people trying to provide information on it) is really out of whack.
your time would be much better spent optimizing for high traffic, non or mildly competitive terms that bring in a halfway decent (although not insane) CPC.
david_sakh
Sep 9th 2004, 10:40 pm
what most people aren't taking into consideration, though, is the simple fact that the supply/demand ration (demand being those interested in mesothelioma, supply being being the number of people trying to provide information on it) is really out of whack.
your time would be much better spent optimizing for high traffic, non or mildly competitive terms that bring in a halfway decent (although not insane) CPC.
Guess that summarizes the futility of what I was trying to do. :(
I guess with all that competition - what are the chances even a high-ranking site is going to get a significant portion of the population who are affected with the disease and actively looking for links....
schlottke
Sep 10th 2004, 3:06 am
what most people aren't taking into consideration, though, is the simple fact that the supply/demand ration (demand being those interested in mesothelioma, supply being being the number of people trying to provide information on it) is really out of whack.
your time would be much better spent optimizing for high traffic, non or mildly competitive terms that bring in a halfway decent (although not insane) CPC.
I whole heartedly agree..
Arasp
Sep 12th 2004, 7:28 am
I still do not know, how to find these high paying keywords. How can we find about them. One of the members has mentioned Adwords. Well, in adwords the showing CPS varies upon the bid you enter. So what is the real CPC for these keywords?
joeychgo
Sep 12th 2004, 8:04 am
in adwords, choose $100 as your max amount......... you can find out how much the KW is worth max that way
Arasp
Sep 13th 2004, 7:34 am
I know, the easier way is using this page: pixelfast.com/overture/
but my question is how do you find those keywords? I mean how have you found that Mesothelioma has big CPC?
How can we find other high CPC ads but mesothelioma?
melfan
Sep 13th 2004, 7:48 am
To know the estimate of a keyword you can use the overture tool but ofcoz it cannot merely be the basis of adwords. Remember each keyword changes price often depending on competitions
eduardomaio
Oct 5th 2004, 3:55 pm
I still do not know, how to find these high paying keywords. How can we find about them. One of the members has mentioned Adwords. Well, in adwords the showing CPS varies upon the bid you enter. So what is the real CPC for these keywords?
There is a site with the adress getbestinfo.com with some Adsense ads. I guess mesothelioma was the highest paying keyword. Now I only see ads about Class Action and Attorney/Lawyers ads. There are some ads to getbestinfo.com about Mesothelioma so I guess he/she made some nice bucks from it.
Anyway, in my directory I used more the term website and web hosting. It is something that people would really click and it is more "legit" (at least my conscience is clean and i'm not earning money from other peoples bad luck).
Arasp
Oct 15th 2004, 11:36 am
hmmmmmm........
schlottke
Oct 15th 2004, 3:05 pm
hmmmmmm........
Now that is a useful contribution to any discussion.
SEbasic
Oct 15th 2004, 3:11 pm
I saw that...
Is that a good hmmmmmm or a bad hmmmmmm?
To me it looks like a bad hmmmmmm, but I could be wrong...
hmmmmmm
caroline
Oct 24th 2004, 11:26 am
I think it's a badly camouflaged attempt at having a shot at getting a click for highly priced words. How futile...
digitalje5u5
Nov 10th 2004, 6:53 am
I'm just curious how many here, if any, have created content on one or more sites that target high value AdWords such as Mesothelioma or Legal Advice or Workman's Comp, etc? These are high dollar k/w's and a very tempting opportunity. I'm wondering how successful anyone's been setting up content for such words.
Currently, we have over 32 case-speficic websites. They are all legal websites with legitimate information. We are in the process of rolling out adsense ads on all these sites.
* \url=http://www.defectivestents.com/]Ancure Class Action[/url]
* \url=http://www.arava-legal.com/]Arava Attorney[/url]
* \url=http://www.aviation-legal.com/]Aviation Accident Lawyer[/url]
* \url=http://www.benefitsdenial.com/]Bad Faith Lawyer[/url]
* \url=http://www.crestor-legal.com/]Crestor Lawsuit[/url]
* \url=http://www.electrocution-legal.com/]Electrocution Lawyers[/url]
* \url=http://www.enron-legal.com/]Enron Stock Fraud[/url]
* \url=http://www.ephedra-side-effects.com/]Ephedra Lawyer[/url]
* \url=http://www.fairlabor-legal.com/]Fair Labor Litigation[/url]
* \url=http://www.fela-legal.com/]FELA Attorney[/url]
* \url=http://www.fordfirestone-legal.com/]Ford / Firestone Lawyer[/url]
* \url=http://www.hrt-legal.com/]Hormone Replacement Therapy Lawsuit[/url]
* \url=http://www.stentfailure.com/]Johnson & Johnson Stent Injury[/url]
* \url=http://www.meridia-legal.com/]Meridia Lawsuit[/url]
* \url=http://www.merrilllynch-legal.com/]Merrill Lynch Stock Fraud[/url]
* \url=http://www.asbestos-cancer-legal.com/]Mesothelioma Law Firm[/url]
* \url=http://www.nursinghome-legal.com/]Nursing Home Abuse[/url]
* \url=http://www.nursinghome-neglect.com/]Nursing Home Neglect[/url]
* \url=http://www.predatorylenders.com/]Predatory Lending Law[/url]
* \url=http://www.serzone-legal.com/]Serzone Lawsuit[/url]
* \url=http://www.sjs-legal.com/]SJS Lawsuit[/url]
* \url=http://www.knee-recall.com/]Smith & Nephew Recall[/url]
* \url=http://www.taxshelter-legal.com]Tax Shelter[/url]
* \url=http://www.denied-disability-claim.com/]Unum Lawsuit[/url]
* \url=http://www.vioxx-legal.com/]Vioxx Lawsuit[/url]
* \url=http://www.parkinsons-legal.com/]Welding Rod Injury[/url]
* \url=http://www.whistleblower-legal.com/]Whistleblower Law[/url]
* \url=http://www.worldcom-legal.com/]WorldCom Stock Fraud[/url]
* \url=http://www.zyprexa-legal.com/]Zyprexa Lawsuit[/url]
Will let you know how this works out.
/DJ
mopacfan
Nov 10th 2004, 7:51 am
I'd be delighted to know how it works for you.
tooley
Nov 10th 2004, 11:45 am
I get really depressed when I read threads like this. Peeps out there trying to find a way to make a quick buck at the expense of all the real companies trying to fight all the fraud costing us money.
At the same time, all the peeps out there trying to find quality, relevant information about important subjects such as CANCER - finding sites like yours. I can't remember how many times I've done searches on Google and came up with sites that made me go, "What the F$#@????"
I can't blame you guys for doing this; it's a good living if you properly exploit the weakness of the system. Threads like this give my idealism and pocketbook a swift kick in the ass...while at the same time Sergey and Larry are rolling in the dough knowing they've created a monster that's as much of a win-win for them as the war in Iraq is for Bush, Cheney and all their oil cronies. In the end, no matter how good or how bad, they win - and we all end up paying.
mopacfan
Nov 10th 2004, 12:22 pm
tooley, first welcome to the forum. Second, you do bring up a good point. But if a web site that is built to take advantage of adwords, don't you think that you're getting what you're paying for. After all, you're paying to have your ad shown to someone who is interested in what you have to offer. If site xyz is created about some topic AND it gets good results in the search engines AND it displays your ad AND the vistor ultimately comes to your website through that ad, did you not get what you paid for? (just playing devil's advocate)
tooley
Nov 11th 2004, 7:39 am
mopacfan,
Thanks for the welcome.
Your point is well taken, and is a common argument for the creation of such pages, although the motivation for the creation is obviously not so altruistic.
Let me give a hyperbolic analogy to illustrate my contentions on why I believe this practice is harming both advertisers and end-uers.
First, let's pretend you're walking down main street, USA (or more realistically - calle uno in Mexico) and you're passing by numerous shops looking for an orthopedic ankle brace for your sprained ankle. You limp by a store with advertisements in the window that avertise for ankle braces. The shop keeper even flags you into his store. Once you get in, he tells you he doesn't actually sell the braces, but says, here are a couple buddies of mine that do sell them and points you to other stores a couple blocks away on main street. He also tells you, "Mention that Pedro sent you." Do you feel like that person has done a service for you, or do you feel cheated, or both?
Even more extreme, what if you were searching in the phone book for an oncologist, who specializes in skin cancer. You find an ad in the phone book for one nearby, call it and you get a recording that says, "We're not really doctors, but is you call one of these other numbers, you might find one that suits your needs."
What if you went to get your oil changed, pulled into a quickie-oil place and they told you, "We don't really change oil, but joe's across town does - give them this form when you get there."
The point is, people use the internet and Google for that matter, to quickly and easily find "real" answers. The more efficient the vehicle is in providing those answers, the better off all users are. The more "Layers" and "Trails" that users have to follow to get from point A to point B, the more inefficient the system becomes. The more inefficient it becomes and the more "whored-out" it becomes, the less faith people have in using that tool (Google), and before you know it - Google is dead and something else is taking it's place. Then we all have to start all over again. This is partly what happened to Alta Vista and Looksmart. Looks like Google is headin down the same slipperly slope.
On the flip side, the more inefficient the system becomes, the more it costs advertisers. You may ask, "So what if it costs advertisers more, we're providing that information to the end user." Well, let's say I'm the leading skin cancer doctor in the world. I offer experimental treatments that's saving lives at an astonishing rate. It could be argued that My site should be #1, and that my colleagues sites should be #2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. However, these layers of bogus information sites are before the "real" ones. Because they're there, customer ABC has to click on an ad to get to mine. That cost me money that I otherwise would not have to pay if that site were not there. If I'm an attorney sueing the world for malpractice and/or a rich doctor for that matter, it could be argued that it doesn't matter because I have enough money to foot the bills. If you think somehow those additional costs are not passed on to you the consumer in the form of higher insurance rates, however, you deserve to have your ad charges manipulated in this manner.
Sorry for the long rant, but this is my two, maybe three cents worth :)
mopacfan
Nov 11th 2004, 8:02 am
tooley, you do present a very convincing argument. I really only have one issue that I think stands out. Using your example of ankle braces, if the actual seller of the ankle braces is the "best source" but he builds his shop out in the middle of nowhere, with no signs and no clear path to his store, then the other shop owner that pointed me to the real seller deserves the credit for showing me the way. If the seller really wants to be found, he/she should build in the heart of town and have a huge sign above the door anouncing his business. The same would be true for the web. If I can't find what I'm looking for directly because the seller has a poorly designed web site or just doesn't understand the importance of being at the top of the search engines, then those that do and get up there deserve a cut of the pie for 'showing the way'.
While I've not built any sites for the purpose of making money from adwords, the site on which I run adwords does pretty well becuase for many of the companies people search for, my site comes up first becuse the companies have done such a poor job of making their own websites effecitive in the search engines.
I don't think this is an absolute, just as I don't think your argument is an absolute. I think it is a grey area with merits on both sides.
Oh, and don't worry about the long rant. I'd much rather read real content and debate about seo and such rather than all the other jiberish that goes on.
tooley
Nov 11th 2004, 1:24 pm
Agreed on the grey areas. There might be an argument to be made about some type of categorization. Directories go to the extreme; maybe Google should have a "sort" function next to or below the search box that allows for "commercial" sites, "location", etc. Don't know for sure. I can say for sure that Overture has really gone downhill, much the spam-way of Looksmart since Yahoo took over. I've never received so many click-throughs from third and fourth tier sites from Russia and beyond. Today's edition of the Dallas Morning News has an interesting article about MSN's new search engine "featuring localized results..." Interesting to see how this 800 lb gorrilla matches up to Google.
BTW mopacfan, is this your site?
mopacfan
Nov 11th 2004, 1:33 pm
No, this is Shawn's site. One of them anyway. My site is in my signature (below).
I was not aware that overture had spoiled so quickly. Never using overture, and hating yahoo, I was unaware.
digitalje5u5
Nov 12th 2004, 2:07 pm
Currently, we have over 32 case-speficic websites. They are all legal websites with legitimate information. We are in the process of rolling out adsense ads on all these sites.
* Ancure Class Action (http://www.defectivestents.com/)
* Arava Attorney (http://www.arava-legal.com/)
* Aviation Accident Lawyer (http://www.aviation-legal.com/)
* Bad Faith Lawyer (http://www.benefitsdenial.com/)
* Crestor Lawsuit (http://www.crestor-legal.com/)
* Electrocution Lawyers (http://www.electrocution-legal.com/)
* Enron Stock Fraud (http://www.enron-legal.com/)
* Ephedra Lawyer (http://www.ephedra-side-effects.com/)
* Fair Labor Litigation (http://www.fairlabor-legal.com/)
* FELA Attorney (http://www.fela-legal.com/)
* Ford / Firestone Lawyer (http://www.fordfirestone-legal.com/)
* Hormone Replacement Therapy Lawsuit (http://www.hrt-legal.com/)
* Johnson & Johnson Stent Injury (http://www.stentfailure.com/)
* Meridia Lawsuit (http://www.meridia-legal.com/)
* Merrill Lynch Stock Fraud (http://www.merrilllynch-legal.com/)
* Mesothelioma Law Firm (http://www.asbestos-cancer-legal.com/)
* Nursing Home Abuse (http://www.nursinghome-legal.com/)
* Nursing Home Neglect (http://www.nursinghome-neglect.com/)
* Predatory Lending Law (http://www.predatorylenders.com/)
* Serzone Lawsuit (http://www.serzone-legal.com/)
* SJS Lawsuit (http://www.sjs-legal.com/)
* Smith & Nephew Recall (http://www.knee-recall.com/)
* Tax Shelter (http://www.taxshelter-legal.com)
* Unum Lawsuit (http://www.denied-disability-claim.com/)
* Vioxx Lawsuit (http://www.vioxx-legal.com/)
* Welding Rod Injury (http://www.parkinsons-legal.com/)
* Whistleblower Law (http://www.whistleblower-legal.com/)
* WorldCom Stock Fraud (http://www.worldcom-legal.com/)
* Zyprexa Lawsuit (http://www.zyprexa-legal.com/)
Will let you know how this works out.
/DJ
So far so good. Although, I am seriously confused about how these clicks are paid. the first day, I made $30. on ONE click. The next day I made $12.00 on 43 clicks. <--go figure.
schlottke
Nov 12th 2004, 2:42 pm
So you have the sense to make the pages but can't figure out how they pay?
digitalje5u5
Nov 12th 2004, 2:43 pm
So you have the sense to make the pages but can't figure out how they pay?
So far so good. Although, I am seriously confused about how these clicks are paid. the first day, I made $30. on ONE click. The next day I made $12.00 on 43 clicks. <--go figure.
enlighten me oh mighty one.
/dj
anthonycea
Nov 12th 2004, 2:48 pm
Good looking sites, did you design all of them DJ? :confused: ;) :)
You work for this law firm?
schlottke
Nov 12th 2004, 2:52 pm
Dozens of variables play into what each click will pay... Which ad the visitors click on, which words adsense picks to show the ad for.
Say you have a Baseball site...
Pretend the term "baseball bat" pays $0.48/click for the top spot and "louisville slugger baseball bat" pays $3.12... These ads can rotate at any given time, and the same sites are likely using both terms. When they see that "louisville slugger baseball bat" isn't converting, they stop that campaign, and keep the "baseball bat" ad running. Now, since your page still contains " baseball bat" you will serve the cheaper ads- giving the advertiser the same traffic for 6x less money.
More variables are:
- advertiser may drop *just* your site for not converting
- advertiser may drop *all* sites because the ROI wasn't high enough.
- adsense picks up the cheaper term that day and shows those ads more often instead.
- Location A for a specific term costs $XX.XX while location B is only worth $0.XX
... There are more, obviously, but I think thats a pretty good start.
digitalje5u5
Nov 15th 2004, 8:46 am
Good looking sites, did you design all of them DJ? :confused: ;) :)
You work for this law firm?
Thanks. I appreciate it. Yes I designed all of these sites. Yes. I work at Beasley Allen (http://www.beasleyallen.com).
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Thanks for the info schlottke. Very helpful.
/DJ
anthonycea
Nov 15th 2004, 5:53 pm
Can you get me a job?
I have great talent to empty trash cans, dust and sweep floors. But not always in that order... :confused:
digitalje5u5
Nov 16th 2004, 6:23 am
Dozens of variables play into what each click will pay... Which ad the visitors click on, which words adsense picks to show the ad for.
Say you have a Baseball site...
Pretend the term "baseball bat" pays $0.48/click for the top spot and "louisville slugger baseball bat" pays $3.12... These ads can rotate at any given time, and the same sites are likely using both terms. When they see that "louisville slugger baseball bat" isn't converting, they stop that campaign, and keep the "baseball bat" ad running. Now, since your page still contains " baseball bat" you will serve the cheaper ads- giving the advertiser the same traffic for 6x less money.
More variables are:
- advertiser may drop *just* your site for not converting
- advertiser may drop *all* sites because the ROI wasn't high enough.
- adsense picks up the cheaper term that day and shows those ads more often instead.
- Location A for a specific term costs $XX.XX while location B is only worth $0.XX
... There are more, obviously, but I think thats a pretty good start.
Any truth to the theory that PR of the site hosting the ads has an effect on the rate at which the ads are paid?
Thanks,
/DJ
tooley
Nov 23rd 2004, 2:11 pm
Digital,
Wondering what your linking strategy is.
e.g. do you have a pattern to cross-link?
Also, do all the sites link to your monsterlawsuites site? I was wondering how peeps found your adsense ads.
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