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qll
Jul 25th 2004, 10:40 pm
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=MiSsY_MinDbENdr
has shown no Adsense, but in its html codes, there are so many codes to messing with the codes. take a look
For the first line, it stoped google from showing, but then it write so many into the html..... No clue...

melfan
Jul 25th 2004, 10:55 pm
it think it is.

Help Desk
Jul 26th 2004, 6:32 am
The site is pretty annoying just in general.

digitalpoint
Jul 26th 2004, 8:34 am
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=MiSsY_MinDbENdr
has shown no Adsense, but in its html codes, there are so many codes to messing with the codes. take a look
For the first line, it stoped google from showing, but then it write so many into the html..... No clue...
They aren't violating anything... Large clients have much more flexibility with the AdSense code... Xanga for example is an AdSense Premium partner (http://services.google.com/ads_inquiry/ct?hl=en_US) (you need 20 million page views per month). One of the premium features is "Flexible ad formats".

You can tell because their AdSense client ID is not pub-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, it's xanga_468x60

Help Desk
Jul 26th 2004, 8:58 am
If anybody knows which part of the "Terms of Service" this is breaking then please let me know and I will change it. I'm not trying to "Fool" anybody. I'm just trying to get them to notice the ads. People are so trained to ignore Ad boxes and even-popups. Integrating the ads into your page is the best way to get visitors to read them.

qll
Jul 26th 2004, 1:04 pm
They aren't violating anything... Large clients have much more flexibility with the AdSense code... Xanga for example is an AdSense Premium partner (http://services.google.com/ads_inquiry/ct?hl=en_US) (you need 20 million page views per month). One of the premium features is "Flexible ad formats".

You can tell because their AdSense client ID is not pub-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, it's xanga_468x60

The problem is that my PUB-XXXXXXXXXXX account has alllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the functionalities of a Premium members now. I have been able to CLONE the code from a premium member site and it displays 100% exactly the same using my pub-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX acccount. So I wonder if I am allowed to use it. I emailed Google Help, but my guess is that the average Rep will know nothing about it. The GoogleBuy on WebmasterWorld is pretty good at issues, but I can not reach him because I don't have an account there.

I got a lot of ideas from you, digitalpoint, mrRat. Nintendo. I know some of your ideas are charging money, but I have been able to design the exact functions without using any of your codes, except the ideas.

So far, I have done Mod_Rewrite for mrRat stuffs, PR checker, Adsense trackers, Digitalpoint/Sandbox (with even better fuctions). Next step I will work on SERP with PR rank thing. The feature I want to add is to search google with a PR rank fuction, such as I want to search Hosting which has PR rank 2 or less (to see how come those low PR rankers get listed at front) or search "link exchange" with high PR ranks.

digitalpoint
Jul 26th 2004, 1:11 pm
The problem is that my PUB-XXXXXXXXXXX account has alllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the functionalities of a Premium members now. I have been able to CLONE the code from a premium member site and it displays 100% exactly the same using my pub-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX acccount. So I wonder if I am allowed to use it. I emailed Google Help, but my guess is that the average Rep will know nothing about it. The GoogleBuy on WebmasterWorld is pretty good at issues, but I can not reach him because I don't have an account there.

I got a lot of ideas from you, digitalpoint, mrRat. Nintendo. I know some of your ideas are charging money, but I have been able to design the exact functions without using any of your codes, except the ideas.

So far, I have done Mod_Rewrite for mrRat stuffs, PR checker, Adsense trackers, Digitalpoint/Sandbox (with even better fuctions). Next step I will work on SERP with PR rank thing. The feature I want to add is to search google with a PR rank fuction, such as I want to search Hosting which has PR rank 2 or less (to see how come those low PR rankers get listed at front) or search "link exchange" with high PR ranks.
I don't charge money for the free online tools, so not sure what you are referring to.

And yes, from a technical standpoint there are things you can do with a "normal" AdSense account (including making your own formats or even getting ads based on keywords instead of URL... both of which you can see here (http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/adsense-sandbox/?url=real+estate)), but there is a big difference between technically possible and allowed by Google's terms.

qll
Jul 26th 2004, 2:36 pm
If anybody knows which part of the "Terms of Service" this is breaking then please let me know and I will change it. I'm not trying to "Fool" anybody. I'm just trying to get them to notice the ads. People are so trained to ignore Ad boxes and even-popups. Integrating the ads into your page is the best way to get visitors to read them.

ThinkBling, Are you breaking this rule?
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies
Ad Placement
Multiple ad units may be displayed on each Web site page, but no ad unit shall contain any advertisement in common with any other ad unit.
No AdWords ads or Google search box may be displayed on any domain parking websites, pop-ups, pop-unders, error, registration, or "thank you" pages, or in any email.
No AdWords ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant.
Elements on a page must not obscure any portion of the ads, and the ad colors must be such that any ad elements, including text and URL, are visible

Help Desk
Jul 27th 2004, 5:16 am
So how exactly is this breaking the rules? Nothing is being obscured.