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gemini181
Nov 14th 2006, 4:17 am
Hi all,
-A site I checked is PR5 with the 'www.' included and zero without.
How can I promote new sites to get good PR 'both ways' (with and without the 'www')?
-When there is an option (with text links, bought links, and some directories), should I always use and submit '..//www.domain.com' or '..//domain.com'
Thanks
mad4
Nov 14th 2006, 4:18 am
You should redirect http://yoursite.com to http://www.yoursite.com otherwise your PR is diluted and you may suffer canonicalization and duplicate content issues.
gemini181
Nov 14th 2006, 4:23 am
You should redirect http://yoursite.com to http://www.yoursite.com otherwise your PR is diluted and you may suffer canonicalization and duplicate content issues.Thanks for the quick answer :)
...and which should be linked and submitted with or without?
mad4
Nov 14th 2006, 4:58 am
If you redirect to the www version then always build links to that version. Although if you are 301 redirecting the non-www version then any links built to that will be credited to the www version instead.
gemini181
Nov 14th 2006, 5:14 am
Any idea how some sites get PR6 for both '..//www.domain.com' and '..//domain.com'?
Thanks again
trichnosis
Nov 14th 2006, 5:58 am
that depent on people who links to you. if people gives link to you your.com , yoursite.com will get higher pr
kh7
Nov 14th 2006, 6:03 am
Actually you don't really need to do a redirect from www.domain.com to domain.com (or vice versa), because you can just say in google sitemaps which you prefer. You should not even try to get a decent google rating for both. Sites that do have a good rating for both would still be better off if they focused on only one.
rainborick
Nov 14th 2006, 7:33 am
Google has an internal mechanism that reconciles (ie. canonicalizes) the www. issue over time. Of course, if your site gets into trouble over this problem, 'over time' can seem like eons. So its best to pick one version of your URL and stick to it for all internal links, do your best to make sure that external links that point to your site all use the same version, select a "Preferred Domain" in Google Sitemaps, and that you set up a server code 301 redirect for all requests for the 'bad' version of your URL back to the 'good' version.
BrianR2
Nov 14th 2006, 8:55 am
My 2 cents: I would do a 301 redirect from non-www to www since most people use www.yoursite.com AND I would choose the preferred domain in Google sitemaps. Both options were mentioned but I would do both.
aditya_sfs
Nov 14th 2006, 9:02 am
When it is matter of PR, then google will treat both www.domain.com and domain.com differently. So u must try to build links pointing towards http://www.domain.com/ only or http://domain.com/ only so that PR doesnt get distributed.
The best way is to create a redirect to direct all requests to domain.com to www.domain.com. This can be done through cPanel and is the best possible way.
BrianR2
Nov 14th 2006, 9:06 am
Now that Google has the preferred domain feature, I wonder whether they show the same PR for both non-www and www since they know that they are the same page. Anyone have any experience with this?
alhoop
Nov 14th 2006, 9:49 am
Guys - speaking of "www" pages, I recently noticed my main domain and some of my pages are listed without the "www" even though I dont have any external links to my pages without the 'www". They used to be listed with the www not too long ago.
What could be the reason for that, at first I thought this might be a google glitch, but now I am not sure.
Just thought if someone can shed some light on this as I am a bit freaking out lol.
thanks
master06
Nov 14th 2006, 9:52 am
make 301 redirect for the same pr values. use http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=301+redirect&btnG=Search for the detailed info.
fablex
Nov 14th 2006, 9:53 am
put this in your .htaccess file and all links without www will be redirected to links with www:
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.your-url-here\.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^$
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.your-url-here.com/$1 [L,R=301]
BrianR2
Nov 14th 2006, 9:59 am
Guys - speaking of "www" pages, I recently noticed my main domain and some of my pages are listed without the "www" even though I dont have any external links to my pages without the 'www". They used to be listed with the www not too long ago.
What could be the reason for that, at first I thought this might be a google glitch, but now I am not sure.
Just thought if someone can shed some light on this as I am a bit freaking out lol.
thanks
Check the date when those pages were cached. It could be old cached pages in Google's index. It shouldn't be a big issue at least I've seen this in the past and now it's gone now that I chose the preferred domain in Google sitemaps.
alhoop
Nov 14th 2006, 10:18 am
Check the date when those pages were cached. It could be old cached pages in Google's index. It shouldn't be a big issue at least I've seen this in the past and now it's gone now that I chose the preferred domain in Google sitemaps.
Hey Brian - Thanks for your response. Indeed the sub pages are old cached pages dated back from April but the main domain is showing a november cached date ( it is a PR6 domain ).
I have talked to some people and I was told not to worry about it, I really hope it is not an issue and google would just correct it if it is indeed a glitch.
I might start using the google sitemap to make sure it is corrected.
thanks again
affihq
Nov 14th 2006, 10:21 am
buy inbound links with high PR, it's as easy as pie.
almir
Nov 14th 2006, 11:41 am
buy inbound links with high PR, it's as easy as pie.
What about reading first post one more time ;)
cientificoloco
Nov 14th 2006, 12:02 pm
put this in your .htaccess file and all links without www will be redirected to links with www:
The version I get is slightly different:
RewriteEngine on
rewritecond %{http_host} ^coolexample.com [nc]
rewriterule ^(.*)$ http://www.coolexample.com/$1 [r=301,nc]
Does the difference matter?
(this one doesn't have the RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^$ in the middle)
cldnails
Nov 14th 2006, 1:17 pm
I think that's the reason so many of my Directory pages are located in supplemental. :(
Textlinksguru
Nov 14th 2006, 4:35 pm
yeah definately with www. unless you want to aim specifically at your domain...
ylikone
Nov 15th 2006, 10:21 am
So it seems that people prefer having the www. in front over not having it. Why is this? I think the www. is redundant in my opinion.
BrianR2
Nov 15th 2006, 2:32 pm
It's probably redundant but I just use it because that's what people are used to.
gemini181
Nov 15th 2006, 2:45 pm
I will to re-read the advanced advice.
In short, we should be consitent with promoting and submitting ..//www.dprocks.com and re-direct all ..//dprocks.com to the 'world wide web'.
I need to pay more attention.
Possibly several php programs use ..//dprocks.com by default. Sounds like some code modification would be needed there, too much fun!
Thanks all :)
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