Google Responds to AdSense Sharing

[Help Desk]

I previously posted that I've created an phpBB Adsense (http://forums.thinkbling.com) mod. Nothing in Google's Terms of Service indicated this is wrong. Besides I was just stealing DigitalPoints good idea in the first place. Well an email was sent to Google to find out their thoughts on the matter.

Here is the original email sent to Google.
From: <NAME REMOVED> <ADDRESS REMOVED>
Subject: Other
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:53:48 -0700

Does Google have any current qualms about me showing adsense ads using
other people's AdSense ID?

Before any decision is made please just look at my points.
1. My site is approved to show Google Ads.
2. I have the People's permission to use their ID as they get the payment
(If there is one).
3. This 100% NOT a "You click on my ad and I click on yours" deal. This
is just a way for me to reward my site users.

I know that Google is very open to new and different ideas as long as they
are ethical. Seeing as how the same ad will get displayed regardless of
who's id is used, there is no difference Google's AdWords customers or to
Google itself.

Thanks for your time.
<NAME REMOVED>

Here is their response...
Hello <NAME REMOVED>,

Thank you for your email.

Currently, it is not against AdSense program policies to display ad code
from other publisher's on your sites. You can review our complete program
policies at https://www.google.com/adsense/policies.

The AdSense ad code on the 'Ad layout code' page is valid for any page in
any site that complies with our program policies. Please note AdSense
publishers are only allowed one set of Google ads (one copy of the AdSense
ad code) on each page.

We constantly monitor all of the web pages displaying Google ads. If we
find that one of your web pages violates our policies, we will notify you
and ask you to remove the AdSense ad code from that page.

Please feel free to reply to this email if you have additional questions
or concerns. For technical support, please email adsense-tech@google.com.


Sincerely,

Christine
The Google Team

It is perfectly acceptable to share your AdSense revenue. In fact if there is ever a problem, Google will notify you first instead of just shutting you down.

[disgust]

I think that depends on how severe the violation is (and how much money you're making them, probably). if they find out you're soliciting clicks, my guess would be that you'd be straight-out booted from the program. if it's something minor I'm sure in most cases you'd definitely get a warning.

I could've sworn there used to be part of the TOS that mentioned that you need to actually own the site to display ads on it, though.. hm.

[schlottke]

He is saying if the problem happens to be the revenue sharing not all situations.

[anthonycea]

Google themselves solicit clicks by ranking sites that carry Adsense high in the SERP's, do they punish partners for the practice?

Google is weird science. No one heard of the Porno deal Google made, have they?

[compar]

Google themselves solicit clicks by ranking sites that carry Adsense high in the SERP's, do they punish partners for the practice?
Bullshit Anthony. You can't prove it. And, many of us who are long time AdSense publisher have never seen any evidence of it.

Quit making claims you can't substantiate. You just look like a fools.

[anthonycea]

It was proven a long time ago Bob, even Danny Sullivan is writing about it now.

Do you need more proof, I can provide it!

You seen it last night, do you need more?

[compar]

It was proven a long time ago Bob, even Danny Sullivan is writing about it now.

Do you need more proof, I can provide it!

You seen it last night, do you need more?
Where did I see it last night? Give me a link to anything Danny Sullivan has written that supports this claim.

We have been asking you to provide proof for a long time and all you do is send us to some site that talks in the same bullshit conspiracy theories and vague allusions as you do.

Show me one AdSense publisher's web site that ranks in the top ten, and that absolutley has no reason to be there other than the fact that they publish AdSense ads.

I have a page from my InfoPool that is number one in the Serps for a popular search term: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=animals+online. It was number one for several years before AdSense ever was thought of and it's still there. But I have lots of pages that don't rank that well and they certainly haven't improved since I started publishing AdSense.

That is just crap and you have no concrete evidence.

[anthonycea]

http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/opt/article.php/3358551

[GuyFromChicago]

http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/opt/article.php/3358551

LOL, Danny wrote an article that talks about how Yahoo is accusing Google of being biased towards Adsense publishers - that's not even close to saying he believes or supports that claim.

[compar]

http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/opt/article.php/3358551
Anthony,

I just read every word of that article and I don't see one word that talks about Google giving anybody, under any circumstances, a favored position in its SERPs. Are you just lying when you make a statement like "even Danny Sullivan is saying so" or can you not read?

Find and publish here, where Sullivan says anything at all to support your wild claims. In fact he say exactly the opposite. He says Yahoo tried to used paid inclusion and Google won the Public Relations war because they DON'T use paid inclusion.

Yours is the oldest con trick in the world. Tell a bald face lie and then claim that some authority figure to substantiate it. I personally don't think Danny Sullivan is any great authority figure, but in this case he absolutely does not say anything that would substantiate your malicious rumours and conspiracy theories.

[anthonycea]

Bob is seems that you might have missed the following part of the article, your selective memory is kicking in again, the one that favors your original opinions on this subject.

Below is cut and pasted from the article.

I'll also cover the "level playing field" myth Google has so effectively employed. Google's results aren't necessarily "purer" than Yahoo's because Google lacks paid inclusion. Plenty of commercial sites vie for position on both. It's just that Google doesn't earn money directly from its editorial results.

I expect Yahoo will fight back against charges it's less pure than Google by pointing out Google's AdSense program potentially gives that company as much incentive to skew results as does Yahoo's paid inclusion.

AdSense puts Google ads on external Web pages. Obviously, if Google drives traffic to pages carrying its ads, the company may earn more. That's something Google strongly denied it would do when AdSense launched. It repeated the denial recently, when I looked at allegations Google favored sites with AdSense content. As with Yahoo, an incentive for favoritism is there.

I'd planned to cover the AdSense issue in this series. I was particularly surprised when Yahoo raised the issue itself, when I spoke with the company recently. I don't recall Yahoo ever employing a "Google has incentive to be bad" argument before. I suspect it may emerge as a new line of defense if paid inclusion criticisms continue

[dazzlindonna]

First point: anthonycea said "even Danny Sullivan is writing about it now"
...yes, he WROTE about it, so technically, the statement is true. WRITING about something, however, is not necessarily condoning or supporting it.

Second point: "incentive to skew results" and "incentive for favoritism" does not mean a company DOES skew results or shows favoritism.

Third point: "allegations Google favored sites with AdSense content" is just that...ALLEGATIONS...again, not necessarily true.

Summary: Suspicion, allegations, incentives...none of these provide PROOF. Any allegation could prove to be true in the long run...or it could prove to be false. Until such time as an allegation is proven one way or the other, keep the opinions as just that...OPINIONS. Don't label opinions as facts.

[digitalpoint]

I think that depends on how severe the violation is (and how much money you're making them, probably). if they find out you're soliciting clicks, my guess would be that you'd be straight-out booted from the program. if it's something minor I'm sure in most cases you'd definitely get a warning.

I could've sworn there used to be part of the TOS that mentioned that you need to actually own the site to display ads on it, though.. hm.

Well that's two different things... Displaying ads with someone else's publisher ID and soliciting clicks (regardless of who's publisher ID).

Anyone should be booted from AdSense if they solicit clicks (of their own own someone else's ads).

[Will.Spencer]

Google themselves solicit clicks by ranking sites that carry Adsense high in the SERP's, do they punish partners for the practice?

Quoting from the Google AdSense FAQ (https://www.google.com/adsense/faq#basics6) :

6. How does participation in this program affect my site's position in the Google search results?

Participating in Google AdSense does not affect your site's rank in Google search results. Google AdSense will not affect the search results we deliver. Google believes strongly in freedom of expression and therefore offers broad access to content across the web. Our search results are unbiased by our relationships with paying advertisers and publishers. We will continue to show search results according to our PageRank technology.

Adding the Google AdSense ad code or WebSearch code to your site will not queue your pages for crawling by our main index bots. While our bot (Mediapartners-Google/2.1+) does crawl content pages for the purpose of targeting ads, this crawl is not associated with our main index crawl.

[megri]

They are also blocking or banning sites for Adsense.We have seen the cases.They say our policy are different from google main Index

Megrisoft
submitshop.com

[Foxy]

LOL, Danny wrote an article that talks about how Yahoo is accusing Google of being biased towards Adsense publishers - that's not even close to saying he believes or supports that claim.

Absolutely


This is a subject that I have had a long history on [with mixed reception from others] and what you are saying, Anthony, is, as Compar says, "absolute bullshit"!

Just stop and think about it. Difficult I know!

Would you as an publisher [ie Google] promote pages to the top of the tree where those pages had on them your [Googles] very same ads where you only get 50% [or whatever %] of the money, when you could actually do the opposite [downgrade] or whatever? The answer must be no from a commercial point of view.

I think the real question must be what do other search engines do with those pages - that is, the ones that we know are not at the top in Google [but sometimes previously used to be] but are in other Search engines displaying those adsense ads?

[anthonycea]

Lets put it this way Foxy, SEO folks are the most lost on these issues because of their bias, they can not see the forest because of the trees now can they.

Maybe these folks need to fly over the forest so they can see the big picture.

I know they will never see it from a different angle since some are stuck in the Google muck.

You can quote Bob on this issue, but Bob has been wrong on this since day one when we met on IMR about 8 or 9 months ago.

I have great respect for Bob, but he is wrong about this one, it is time that Compar looks at the issue here as it is in reality.

Some want proof, some want proof that we landed on the moon to this day also. If you want proof open up your eyes and your mind and look at the issues without bias, don't keep asking for more proof, you may get hit with a sledge hammer one day.

Some members here like to quote Google PR Hype and want the community to take it to heart, that is great Will, but a lot of murderers are sitting in jail that claim that they never killed anyone also.

(the Google toolbar is not spyware, Google told me so)

[compar]

You can quote Bob on this issue, but Bob has been wrong on this since day one when we met on IMR about 8 or 9 months ago.

I have great respect for Bob, but he is wrong about this one, it is time that Compar looks at the issue here as it is in reality.
Anthony,

I did miss that section of the article. I was looking for somewhere where Danny actually said that he believed this to be the case. Not just that Yahoo was saying it in as a public relations ploy to counter Googles attack on them for a flagrant paid submission scheme. That part of the article is reporting, not exegesis.

However here is what I recommend. You are never going to change you mind on this and neither am I, and many of the rest of the members of this forum. So why don't we agree to disagree and stop this stupid battle.

I'll quit if you will. There are lots of other thing we can discuss and agree on most of the time. Why don't we just do that and avoid all the vitirol.

[Help Desk]

I think that depends on how severe the violation is (and how much money you're making them, probably). if they find out you're soliciting clicks, my guess would be that you'd be straight-out booted from the program. if it's something minor I'm sure in most cases you'd definitely get a warning.

I think you may have misread my post. There is NO solicitation of clicks. It is not ethical to solicit clicks and I have never done so in the past.

A few months ago I received a PM, on my forum, from somebody saying if I click on their AdSense ad, they will click on mine. I chose to not even dignify the request with a response.

[Help Desk]

Just because a corporation has incentive to do something, it does not mean that they will. If Google secretly gives better results to the sites that have AdSense on them, they will get more money in the short term and then lose credability and money in the long term.

I have motive to track down Anthonycea and slap him about the head and face, but that would mean that he would just come back with twice as many conspiracy theories in the long run and then EVERYBODY would suffer.

The reason that I like Google is because of their work environment. It breeds great results when employees are happy and causes them to take the ethical high road. Where else are engineers required to spend 20% of their time working on personal technology projects?

[anthonycea]

I agree Bob there is no reason for you and I to become enemies again, we were long ago, but as I have said in the past you have a hell of a lot to offer to this webmaster and SEO community. I will always consider you a friend no matter if we happen to disagree on a issue or two. This forum seems to be a place for the free exchange of ideas and you should continue to give your thoughts to every thread as you are a big part of the character of this forum.

Bling, this issue has nothing to do with how happy folks that work for Google are, the main thing is that they are responsive to their customers (webmasters) who buy their ads. Publishers (webmasters) who give them space on web pages to place their ads. In addition to that they have to be responsible to give fair organic results to the public and their main customers (webmasters), Bling you have it backwords, Google has to make their customers happy (webmasters) to survive just like any other company that wants to grow has to be responsive to their customers.

I could not care less about the happy folks at Google, the pressure will remain on them as it is on any service provider to please their customers (webmasters), if they can not do this their customers (webmasters) will put Google into the outer darkness.

[compar]

Anthony,

I said I wasn't going to disagree with you any more, but I think you are way off on this point. The searching public are Google's customers. Most of the webmasters in the world are rather pissed off with them. We have no apparent influence at all. We think we understand their rules or algos and then as soon as we get our sites in line with this understanding they change all the rules and we are off on the chase for another 3 to 6 month.

Read the McDar thread and others. Not only are webmaster and SEO upset, they are generally concerned that Google seem to have lost their way and isn't even coming close to presenting relevant web pages in their SERPs.

Look at the webmaster who write with spam reports and complaint, and to whom Google never responds, and does nothing. If Google has one outstanding characteristic it is that they ignore webmasters.

Look at all the threads about Google hating SEO. SEO practioners are webmasters. In my mind, and to my chagrin, Google has studiously ignored, and maintain their independence from, webmasters.

Web masters universally would leap to any SE that did a better job or paid a little more attention to their voice. Google is not being solitictous to web masters. In fact they have pissed them off in droves. The only problem is that, all that not withstanding, they still get the majority of the search traffic, and the don't try and extort payment from anybody for a place in their index.

So because Google is the only game in town, web masters have to put up with the shit.

[anthonycea]

Bob you and I seem to be friends in some weird way, so here we go again.

Customers are those that buy things from a company.

Webmasters buy ADWORDS from Google.

Google is a partner with Webmasters who publish ADSENSE.

Where do customers go when they click on an ADSENSE ad, to a website that a Webmaster runs, he pays Google to bring him traffic, so the webmaster is the customer.

How does Google make money from the general public?

I have not seen anyone pay for a search yet.

So from what I have seen the main customers of Google seem to be WEBMASTERS.

We need to form a WEBMASTERS UNION and demand that the search engines serve their customers, PERIOD.

And Bob, I do not expect you to agree with me on anything but what I am right on, sock it to me if you feel I am wrong.

[compar]

Customers are those that buy things from a company.
I would have to agreed with you in a technical sense. But Internet companies and Google in particular have strange business models. Who were Googles customers before they started to sell AdWords? Without a single customer, by your definition, they were still a hugely successful company -- if success can be defined in terms of the number of people using your services.
Webmasters buy ADWORDS from Google.
Yes, but the question is why? The answer is because Google has all the search "customers". Webmasters want those people to be their customers also. Google doesn't get webmasters to buy their ads by collusion or favoritism. Google get webmasters to by their ads by serving the searchers better than any other search engine.
Google is a partner with Webmasters who publish ADSENSE.
Well that is corect to the extent that a partnership is a relationship that goes both ways, but I think most of us think Google has been reasonable generous in allowing us to get a piece of their action.
Where do customers go when they click on an ADSENSE ad, to a website that a Webmaster runs, he pays Google to bring him traffic, so the webmaster is the customer.

How does Google make money from the general public?
By serving them so well that webmasters will pay them to display ads on their SERPs. It is something like the Gillette model. You give the razor away to get the blade sales. But every ambitious webmaster does exactly the same thing. If you or I can build sufficent traffic to our sites we can sell advertising on them. That doesn't put us in some evil or underhanded conspiracy with our advertisers.
I have not seen anyone pay for a search yet.
Not directly, but every time they find a site and purchase something from it they pay. And how about their monthly ISP bill. It costs them to be able to search even if the do not pay the search company directly.
So from what I have seen the main customers of Google seem to be WEBMASTERS.
Well if that is the case they treat them like hell. There are no webmasters on their board of directors. There is no webmaster advisory commitee or counsel.

The second that Google starts to talk to or listen to webmasters, will be the second that they lose the public confidence and loyalty. Then they won't have anything to sell to webmasters.
We need to form a WEBMASTERS UNION and demand that the search engines serve their customers, PERIOD.
You may be right on this issue. Webmasters of the world arise! You have nothing to lose but your Google abuse!

Anthony, I've been in the business long enough that if Google was colluding with webmasters I would have been contacted. They just aren't doing it.

[disgust]

I think you may have misread my post. There is NO solicitation of clicks. It is not ethical to solicit clicks and I have never done so in the past.

A few months ago I received a PM, on my forum, from somebody saying if I click on their AdSense ad, they will click on mine. I chose to not even dignify the request with a response.


I get that- I wasn't accusing you of anything.

I'm just saying that I'm sure they don't always contact people first; there's a big difference between a minor violation and something relatively serious like soliciting clicks- if it's really severe, I'm sure they won't give you a warning at all.

[anthonycea]

Well Bob here we go again, you know that Google and all of the other search engines are aware of every word that is said on this and every other forum. If Google ain't listening you can bet that M$ and Yahoo and every other player is looking very closely at what we are saying here.

These webmaster forums are Billions of dollars of free research that they will all use in the future for program development and marketing, you can bet your ___ on it.

They have all of the pages saved, so they listen to you everytime you post, they have PR men on webmaster forums for a reason.

Google customers are webmasters at this time, can anyone find any other customers that pay Google money?

Just like Andrew at the Register says, there is no search business, it is an advertising business that generates profit, that is what Google sells, that is their product.

The software used to data mine is used to deliver that product, next their Puffin hard drive search software will take files from the hard drives of computer users and target relevant ads back based on those files.

Just like Gmail does, just like ADSENSE does, just like ADWORDS does, just like Blogger does, just like Orkut does.

[Help Desk]

I'm not sure if you have a point.

Let A = Quality of search results
Let B = AdWords Revenue
Let C = The relative amount of "SERP/Ad" manipulation (If C = 0 then there is no SERP/Ad manipulation)


As A increases B increases (effective Search Results = effective AdWords Placement)
As A decreases B decreases (less effective SERPS = less effective AdWords Placement)

An increase in C increases B but decreases A. This in turn decreases B.

Therefore the only way to increase B is to increase A. ...or the only way to increase AdWords revenue is to increase the quality of search results.

Anthony, can you explain what your are trying to say in these terms?

[anthonycea]

That has alway been your problem Bling, you are not sure, that stuff in your post is almost as confusing as "Larry Page Rank" which is just a smoke screen blown by Google to confuse webmasters and to chain web surfers to the toolbar.

If sites with ADSENSE pages are ranked high in the SERP's, then web surfers look at more Google ads, is that hard for you to understand?

[Help Desk]

Which part are you confused by? I'm sure I can explain it for you.

[anthonycea]

The part I am confused by is why you like to spread propaganda for Google, how many more threads are you going to start on the toolbar?

Does your brother work for Google Bling?

If you really want to know what the toolbar is Bling, instead of promoting spyware, I got some news for you, Page Rank and Web Rank are scams and spyware to give page views back.

Adsense publishers rankings are part of Google's Algo, it does not matter if you believe it or not.

Can you explain why other search engines are banning sites with ADSENSE pages that are cut and paste template pages simply to churn web surfers into looking at more ADSENSE ads?

Next do you believe that Google has something to do with this (ADSENSEMASTERS) idea of a few keywords on each page with the rest of the page being ADSENSE.

If you need example links posted, I have plenty of these pages for you Bling.

Or just go to www.searchwars.squarespace.com and look at the ADSENSE BUSINESS page, it may give you a better idea, but I think you know exactly what I am talking about.

You just have a great problem with something called "the truth".

[Help Desk]

Don't change the subject. Which part of my previous statement confuses you?

If all that you can is change the subject, please stop posting on this thread and open one with whatever conspiracy theory you're advocating this hour.

[anthonycea]

When you come up with a subject or a question instead of the crap you present, please post it.

I think your problem is this Bling, you have a problem with reality and answering questions, even simple ones that are not presented as some sort of crazy enigma that you created.

Now that is exactly Google's problem, they give webmasters a search engine that just can not be figured out, secret algo's that favor the Google profit machine.

Maybe a "so called CT thread" should be started on you Bling, can I start it on your forum since it seems that you like to promote it so much?

After all Bling, it seems that you are following in the same model as DP anyway with your programming and ADSENSE sharing program. That is really why you started this thread on DP, right Bling?

The only way I will agree on writing for your forum is if I can come on and expose your bias for anything Google, think about it Bling.

[Help Desk]

You still haven't answered the question. Which part confuses you?

Please don't post on my forum as I don't allow spam.

[anthonycea]

Bling, I would hope no one would ever post on your forum, I am sure that you are a censor anyway.

No one wants a one way debate, so really your forum is a worthless place, you may be a decent programmer, but you are one of the worst forum players and posters I have ever seen.

So your forum as a place for the free and uncensored exchange of ideas has to be a worthless one.

Do you ask silly questions on your forum like you do here, is it filled with Google PR Hype Bling?

The part of your posts that really confuse me are this Bling, since you have your own forum, what the hell are you doing here, is it to highjack traffic back to your forum, can you answer that question?

[Help Desk]

How much more defamation of character are you going to throw?

As a side note, what else can be done to posters who sling verbal garbage? Removing one's linking ability and noting their reputation as horrid does not slow the flow of nonsense they write? Is there any way we can vote people off or limit their posting to one a day? Many here are tired of threads evolving into nonsensical annoyance due to just one bad poster.

[ViciousSummer]

...what else can be done to posters who sling verbal garbage? Removing one's linking ability and noting their reputation as horrid does not slow the flow of nonsense they write? Is there any way we can vote people off or limit their posting to one a day? Many here are tired of threads evolving into nonsensical annoyance due to just one bad poster.

I would be happy to see a certain member tossed to the wind, but I have found that putting him on my "ignore" list has helped to ignore him. When viewing a thread, it shows that he has posted, but doesn't actually show his annoying words. I recommend it to all. If you don't respond, he won't get off on it as much and will (hopefully) soon fade away. :D

[anthonycea]

Bling, if you were running the forum here you would have no problems with voting members off because you would have no members like your forum does right now.

When you start running the joint here, please post it, so I can leave and find a better place to post, I do not think I could stand looking at all your links and PR Hype after you start running the joint.

Character, why don't you go stand in line at McDonald's and tell all of their customers how good your hamburgers are at your joint across the street and see how they receive you, is that character Bling?

Poor poor censors, I feel sorry for you, would not want your eyes to be corrupted by the truth, I know how much it hurts.

Maybe you should take some TV stations off of your remote control also, you should not see certain things, nor should you know anything that is on the other side of what you already know and make a vain effort to promote. :eek:

Bling can I save your tears, the fire department can use them to put out fires.

Email Google and tell them that some monster is saying things about them, maybe they will add you to the spy network, you are already a soldier in the PR Hype department so do not apply for that job, no duplication of effort is needed.

[Help Desk]

I would be happy to see a certain member tossed to the wind, but I have found that putting him on my "ignore" list has helped to ignore him. When viewing a thread, it shows that he has posted, but doesn't actually show his annoying words. I recommend it to all. If you don't respond, he won't get off on it as much and will (hopefully) soon fade away. :D
Wow, it's like a huge burden has been lifted from my shoulders. I hope that everybody else takes this advices as well.

[anthonycea]

Bling, I will never need the feature, since I will never go to your forum.

Let's talk about character Bling, should I bring up some of your posts where you made up fake quotes by myself, that shows your character Bling.

I think you should quit bringing up the character issue, since you would have to dig real deep to find any in yourself. :cool:

As far as advice goes, I would never take any from you with all due respect.

[ViciousSummer]

Wow, it's like a huge burden has been lifted from my shoulders. I hope that everybody else takes this advices as well.

Isn't it great? It definatly helps me from getting annoyed when I don't even have to read his ridiculously repetitive rhetoric. :)

Glad I could help, Bling!

[digitalpoint]

While this isn't a flat out endorsement from Google, I do know they at least know about the revenue sharing, because I got an email from them asking to not run AdSense on the revenue sharing info page:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/faq.php?faq=revenue_sharing

Because it draws attention to the AdSense ad (which of course makes sense).

[Help Desk]

Yes, Google nicely asked me to remove my ad from my login page. I did and they responded with a thank you. My ISP almost booted me out because they said I sent 1 spam message. It would be nice if Google came out with a hosting service (Unlesss Digital wants to get in the business ;))

[jbw]

I thought spam was a mass mailing, so how can they think you sent one spam message??

[Help Desk]

Some people consider spam just 1 unsolicited message.

[david_sakh]

"It is perfectly acceptable to share your AdSense revenue. In fact if there is ever a problem, Google will notify you first instead of just shutting you down."

That's good news. It's always best to be 100% legit.

[T0PS3O]

You still haven't answered the question. Which part confuses you?

Please don't post on my forum as I don't allow spam.

TB, What about your countless self-promo posts with basic tools we all can get somewhere else. Just a selection of threads by you:

Google PHP API
ThinkBling 05-28-2004 05:51 PM
by ThinkBling 4 683 All Other Tools
Amazon Affiliate Program
ThinkBling 05-28-2004 08:22 PM
by ThinkBling 2 345 All Other Tools
Yahoo Tool Expansion ( 1 2 )
ThinkBling 08-12-2004 11:28 PM
by Jackobo007 11 464 All Other Tools
Meta Tag Checker (Is your site indexable?)
ThinkBling 06-09-2004 12:27 AM
by Jackobo007 4 262 All Other Tools
Spider Tool
ThinkBling 06-09-2004 07:59 PM
by vinyl 7 304 All Other Tools
Lists which pages have what pagerank.
ThinkBling 06-10-2004 10:52 PM
by younghistorians 2 184 All Other Tools
BackLink Tracker, Pages In URL Question
ThinkBling 06-17-2004 04:42 PM
by digitalpoint 5 214 Keyword Tracker
PageRank Calculator ( 1 2 )
ThinkBling 07-29-2004 05:27 PM
by ThinkBling 19 700 All Other Tools
PageRank Checker ( 1 2 )
ThinkBling 07-19-2004 06:19 AM
by sarahk 11 518 All Other Tools
Serps with PageRank
ThinkBling 07-02-2004 10:32 PM
by mxlabs 3 175 All Other Tools
Live PageRank Stat ( 1 2 )
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Some of them even double. This is a classic one, see how most have one sentence just announcing the tool:

I am looking to create more online tools. I already have a few PageRank Tools. If there is a new tool that can be expanded or if you wish there was a tool that could do something that others don't, then let me know.

Seems like you are tool spam obessesed. Did you get your tool fix today? Or do you get itchy and feverish if you a) don't make a new one and b) don't spam it all over the web?

I have no troubles with you because I just ignore those particular posts of yours but don't go tell Anthony he can not post 1 thread in your forum when we all know the shite you post here. Like for like.

[Help Desk]

Perhaps I could see your point if I was selling something. However since it is all free your point is moot.

If you have real problem with any of my postings then you should PM me.

It is better to be tool obsessed, then to be a tool one's self.

[Mel]

Isn't it great? It definatly helps me from getting annoyed when I don't even have to read his ridiculously repetitive rhetoric. :)

Glad I could help, Bling!

Thats a great idea VS, but if many posters did that it would result in him having a large forum to spout conspiracy theories with no one to rebut him.

Instead could we just create a conspiracy theories section and restrict him to that section?

[edhan]

I am most happy to join adsense sharing sites as it benefit both parties. I can see more of the video sharing sites coming out and that will help individual to earn some sharing income.

[Knight Rider]

Wow, talk about bumping an old thread ^_^

[MidMido]

It was proven a long time ago Bob, even Danny Sullivan is writing about it now.

Do you need more proof, I can provide it!

You seen it last night, do you need more?

The Same as he said

[logicb0x]

this way is efficient

[Qryztufre]

The Same as he said

No, the same as he said...

Wow, talk about bumping an old thread ^_^

This thread should be pointed too more often though. I've seen this question raised several times.

I personally like revenue sharing and wish more sites offered it.

[tradeya]

oh damn this thread might be the oldest thread that was dug these day. not sure those information still reliable or not. lol

[gwydion]

This seems to be what others such as 'HubPages' are doing. I've been considering something similar for my article submission site, so thanks for posting.

[everythingisplanned]

Google Adsense Sharing have been around for a while but this is the first time I saw it with a Google API and that Flixya actually connect with the Adsense account.

Flixya shares 100 % of its revenue with its users and I do not know really how they make money but Google Adsense states on their page that Flixya does not take any percentages from their users.

You can upload pictures and videos but you can also send them videos from all major video sharing networks and make money with the ads as well. So basically all you have to do is import videos from YouTube and put them on your account and you will make money with Google Adsense trough Flixya.