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Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 5:04 pm
OK< after a little delay, the contest is now up and running. The basic rules are outlined on the official blog which is
http://www.directorycontest.com
In order to win, you simply add this blog to your own directory.
The first 10 directories showing up in Google for http://www.directorycontest.com (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.directorycontest.com) on February 6th 2007, 10 AM P.S.T. will win prizes.
I have already listed cash prizes for the first 3, but there are massloads of non cash prizes which I have not yet listed, as well as others who have committed to cash prizes without revealing the amount yet.

The goal is to find the strongest directories which benefit the submitters the most.

More prizes will be listed tomorrow. Good luck to all :)


Mike

The first 3 directories will get $1,200, $400 and $200 as well as many non cash prizes.

britishguy
Nov 5th 2006, 5:15 pm
Right lets get started Mike :)

This will add some sizzle to the Directory Market ;)

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 5:16 pm
May the strongest directories win!

banless
Nov 5th 2006, 5:45 pm
I'm in on this, index-it.net ranks pretty well for a few of the domain names listed. But can you provide a title and description for the site. Also, just to be clear, what is the exact phrase in order to win? Is it the domain name, or the keyword directory contest?

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 5:54 pm
The exact phrase is going to be the url of the site http://www.directorycontest.com (with the http://www. :))

! Ask !
Nov 5th 2006, 5:54 pm
I think is a very good idea, but I am against the possibility of building links to the category the listing is on, because it will became a SEO contest.

In the site says that “If you want to get links into your category with the listing, you are free to do so. We believe that it will be hard to control otherswise,” I think is very easy to control, you just request a listing at yahoo with links pointing to the category and see the anchor text they have.

But I will enter the contest it Ask Directory (http://ask-dir.com/Directories/) even not agreeing very much with the rules.

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:00 pm
I'll be happy to take any suggestions you guys may have, there is still time to adjust some of the rules. :)

GFX^^
Nov 5th 2006, 6:00 pm
I didn't really understand, so can we build links to the detail page?

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:03 pm
I personally am against it, but don't see how someone can keep anyone from blogging about the contest using some of the directories as examples.

GFX^^
Nov 5th 2006, 6:05 pm
so that means we can build links and this becomes a seo contest?

britishguy
Nov 5th 2006, 6:06 pm
I'll be happy to take any suggestions you guys may have, there is still time to adjust some of the rules. :)

OK Mike keep your finger on the button re the rules as I know you will

Thanks for your efforts they are appreciated :)

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:07 pm
so that means we can build links and this becomes a seo contest?

No, it won't be an seo contest. So here is the deal: no links! :)

banless
Nov 5th 2006, 6:08 pm
I think the rules are fair. But I would not point links to the page that the listing is going to be on, the reason being is because I think what they want to see is which directory can rank under that phrase just by have one link in the entire site. I have to admit that this is pretty hard but not impossible. My other question though is will directorycontest.com be included? The reason I ask is because that domain will out rank everyone thus leaving only a prize for 2nd and 3rd place. With that said, as long as that domain name is not allowed to win then I think it fair.

Hey "ASK" have you typed in "ask directory" into google lately? If you do you will see that your featured listing page from index-it.net already ranks #6 out of 151,000,000 results not bad for a page that is less then a month old.

GFX^^
Nov 5th 2006, 6:08 pm
ok, and what happens if someone links to the entry ?

wwws
Nov 5th 2006, 6:09 pm
I'm in on this, index-it.net ranks pretty well for a few of the domain names listed. But can you provide a title and description for the site. Also, just to be clear, what is the exact phrase in order to win? Is it the domain name, or the keyword directory contest?

I agree with banless, could you clarify on what we need to do for the contest. Do we simply add http://www.directorycontest.com/ in our listing and it not be sitewide or be frontpage listing, only they be a regular or featured? or can it be a news blog as i'm about to write a news/blog about this contest.

I think i already know who will win.....Forums.DigitalPoint.com;)

Thanks!

banless
Nov 5th 2006, 6:13 pm
I agree with banless, could you clarify on what we need to do for the contest. Do we simply add http://www.directorycontest.com/ in our listing and it not be sitewide or be frontpage listing, only they be a regular or featured? or can it be a news blog as i'm about to write a news/blog about this contest.

I think i already know who will win.....Forums.DigitalPoint.com;)

Thanks!

Good point. I think that no other site should be able to win unless it is a directory. All other sites not included.

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:14 pm
ok, and what happens if someone links to the entry ?
If someone does get links to rank for the term, that is disqualification.
I agree with banless, could you clarify on what we need to do for the contest. Do we simply add http://www.directorycontest.com/ in our listing and it not be sitewide or be frontpage listing, only they be a regular or featured? or can it be a news blog as i'm about to write a news/blog about this contest.

I think i already know who will win.....Forums.DigitalPoint.com;)

Thanks!

The directorycontest.com site needs to be listed, but can be listed with any keyphrase. If you blog about the contest and then add the name of our site and the name of your directory, that is ok. Just don't link to your directory using the name of our site as anchor :)

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:15 pm
Good point. I think that no other site should be able to win unless it is a directory. All other sites not included.

Yes, only directories can win. DP can rank all it wants, the top 10 directories are going to win, no blogs or forums :)

! Ask !
Nov 5th 2006, 6:15 pm
I think that links to the detail page shouldn’t be aloowed and also links to the category that include this wordings “http://www.directorycontest.com/” or “directorycontest.com”

Yes, Banless I did a search the other day, and I got real impressed that your detail page ranks 6 for the “Ask Directory” search term, very good job.

GFX^^
Nov 5th 2006, 6:15 pm
but.. what if for example I link to another directory.. that is not mine to get them dicualified...

banless
Nov 5th 2006, 6:19 pm
Still waiting for title and description. Mainly description though.

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:19 pm
but.. what if for example I link to another directory.. that is not mine to get them dicualified...

at the end of the contest we will check the backlinks the categories of the winning directories have, and see who the owners are.

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:21 pm
Still waiting for title and description. Mainly description though.
Title "Directory Contest", "DirectoryContest.com" or "Directory Contest - DirectoryContest.com"
Description can be anything. You can use http://www.directorycontest.com in it, but only once!

GFX^^
Nov 5th 2006, 6:22 pm
and what if I tell another owner to blog about it.. nobody would notice it was me,,

(I am just telling al this so that u prevent it, I am not gonna do it)

GFX^^
Nov 5th 2006, 6:23 pm
Another thing, can we create a new category for this? I mean a category with the title we have to rank for.

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:26 pm
and what if I tell another owner to blog about it.. nobody would notice it was me,,

(I am just telling al this so that u prevent it, I am not gonna do it)

which is exacly why initially I didn't think a rule was going to be easy to enforce. I will have to give it a little more thought on how to control it. But where I stand right now, is that getting additional links into it, is against the rules. otherwise it will be an seo contest.

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 6:28 pm
Another thing, can we create a new category for this? I mean a category with the title we have to rank for.

No, you can create a new category, but it can't be titled the same name of our site :) (Good questions and suggestions!)

britishguy
Nov 5th 2006, 6:34 pm
Hey !! Folks what happened this Thread is Hot :cool:

And the big hitters from the the Digital Point area of DP have not posted here yet ;)

Cheap SEO Services
Nov 5th 2006, 6:35 pm
Did somebody say "big hitter"?

Lpspider
Nov 5th 2006, 6:36 pm
Wait... wouldn't your own site have most of the results?

banless
Nov 5th 2006, 6:37 pm
Another thing, can we create a new category for this? I mean a category with the title we have to rank for.

I think it should be understood that this is not an seo contest. Like I said before, they want to see a directory that can just rank on it's own without the help of other links pointing to it. What that does is tell you how powerful of a page your site is on, if a page can rank without any backlinks pointing to it then without question you are listed in a very powerful directory. So again I would agree that pointing links to the page to boost up rankings would be unfair for this kind of contest.

You get one link and one page to work with, if the page you place the link on is not good enough then it is not going to rank, if is good then you should be able to get to the top ten.

britishguy
Nov 5th 2006, 6:37 pm
Did somebody say "big hitter"?

Here they come ;)

Watch out the 1st is Col :)

banless
Nov 5th 2006, 6:44 pm
Wait... wouldn't your own site have most of the results?

yes it would, which is why this kind of search should be used in order to find the winner. I'll use my own site as an example

"index-it.net" -site:index-it.net

what this does is only show links pointing to the site, not links that are part of the actual site.

Phynder
Nov 5th 2006, 6:48 pm
I think is a very good idea, but I am against the possibility of building links to the category the listing is on, because it will became a SEO contest.

In the site says that “If you want to get links into your category with the listing, you are free to do so. We believe that it will be hard to control otherswise,” I think is very easy to control, you just request a listing at yahoo with links pointing to the category and see the anchor text they have.

But I will enter the contest it Ask Directory (http://ask-dir.com/Directories/) even not agreeing very much with the rules.

Cool - so, all I have to do to get you knocked out of the contest is point some links at your entry?

! Ask !
Nov 5th 2006, 6:57 pm
Cool - so, all I have to do to get you knocked out of the contest is point some links at your entry?

Almost like adsense banning. :D

Phynder
Nov 5th 2006, 7:01 pm
Almost like adsense banning. :D

So, I suggest you don't worry about it and just worry about the continued building and improvement of your directory.

agnivo007
Nov 5th 2006, 7:21 pm
ok...lets see how it goes for me

romow
Nov 5th 2006, 7:22 pm
Nice contest.

I would agree that pointing links to the page to boost up rankings would be unfair for this kind of contest.


So to clarify, if the listing is in Blog category, it's ok to build backlinks to it using "blog" related anchor text, but it's not allowed to use "directorycontest.com" as an anchor text. You cannot list the directorycontest.com in "Directory Contest" category.

Correct?

You guys really need to think through the contest again, and clarify the rules.

Blogmaster
Nov 5th 2006, 8:23 pm
I will post a complete set of rules tomorrow morning. Sorry about the confusion :)

agnivo007
Nov 5th 2006, 9:30 pm
do update us with the new rules...

mixke
Nov 5th 2006, 9:45 pm
would be a great contest to watch out for ... lets see how the things come up ;) :)

SEOdir.net
Nov 5th 2006, 10:10 pm
when is the finish ? :)

mixke
Nov 5th 2006, 10:13 pm
when is the finish ? :)
check the first post in this thread >> February 6th 2007, 10 AM P.S.T.

britishguy
Nov 6th 2006, 6:14 am
We think Mike will have all the latest news on this contest right here later today

Keep watching this thread :)

mixke
Nov 6th 2006, 8:50 am
We think Mike will have all the latest news on this contest right here later today

Keep watching this thread :)

yeah ..
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1701309&postcount=39
Hes gonna post the Set of Rules tomorrow morning .
Good Luck anyways to everyone ;) :)

agnivo007
Nov 6th 2006, 9:20 am
wooohoo...! are multiple entries from the same owner allowed ?

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 9:33 am
wooohoo...! are multiple entries from the same owner allowed ?

Yes they are.

First off let me say this:
Ever since I have announced something about this contest a month ago, I've been getting the usual "Is this just another seo contest?" spiel. It's not! It's a contest where directories compete and we want to find out which ones are the strongest ones.
So I've been wondering about the rules way too much. I am now going back to my original post and realize that allowing directory owners to link into the categories any way that they want, is the only way to go. I also know that really good directories won't have to worry about it. How many sites with how many backlinks does DP outrank for some hard terms?

Now: The category can't be named http://www.directorycontest.com or Directorycontest.com and the title needs to be "Directory Contest", "DirectoryContest.com"or "Directory Contest - DirectoryContest.com".

mixke
Nov 6th 2006, 9:36 am
wooohoo...! are multiple entries from the same owner allowed ?
lol...I dont think thats gonna happen ;):)

Edit ::
you posted juz before me . Good luck ..!!

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 9:40 am
Sure, you can enter all of your directories. But only one listing per directory, so make it good :)
(And the first prize has been increased to $1,500.00, the non cash prizes will be added lateron!)

All the info is on the official blog http://www.directorycontest.com itself and will be updated frequently as more questions regarding rules are coming in!

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 10:10 am
Sure, you can enter all of your directories. But only one listing per directory, so make it good :)
(And the first prize has been increased to $1,500.00, the non cash prizes will be added lateron!)

All the info is on the official blog http://www.directorycontest.com itself and will be updated frequently as more questions regarding rules are coming in!

Hey Mike - can you give us the exact Google search you will use for the test results? When I try to search on http://www.directorycontest.com - Google automatically takes me to the website...

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 10:18 am
The exact phase is "directorycontest.com"!

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 10:21 am
The exact phase is "directorycontest.com"!


Okay, got it - thanks!

Out of the 1,000,000,000 directories out there, I wonder how many will enter? This will be interesting!

BigTicket
Nov 6th 2006, 10:22 am
The exact phase is "directorycontest.com"!

Has this changed, I thought the search phrase was "http://www.directorycontest.com" as mentioned in the OP

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 10:44 am
Will you be keeping us to date on the rankings and who is in the lead?

mixke
Nov 6th 2006, 10:58 am
Okay, got it - thanks!

Out of the 1,000,000,000 directories out there, I wonder how many will enter? This will be interesting!
Well i wonder with so many good dirs * yes there are many good dirs * ... whos gonna take this contest seriously * with great prizes * and come up stronger to win the game ;) :)

> if a free dir wins then it will go paid in the very next moment .. lol

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 11:10 am
Will you be keeping us to date on the rankings and who is in the lead?

Yes, in this thread and on my blog.

saadahmed007
Nov 6th 2006, 11:12 am
Has this changed, I thought the search phrase was "http://www.directorycontest.com" as mentioned in the OP
Same question Mike?
Saad

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 11:15 am
Yes, I've had to change it, if I just search for the name directly, it will only give me results for my own site ;)

mdvaldosta
Nov 6th 2006, 11:26 am
I'm really confused now. The first post doesn't mention anything about not getting links to the directory for this contest, only links to the "official" page on the site where it says getting backlinks is encouraged:

You are allowed to get extra links into your category, even name the link http://www.directorycontest.com . So you can blog about it and link to it from your blog or wherever, if you think it will help you beat the really strong directories, then go for it!

So I add the link to my directory, start building backlinks, and now I'm reading that getting links to the directory is not allowed? WTF. Will you please clarify this? So I'm disqualified now for following an "official" suggestion?

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 11:35 am
Sorry about the confusion. You can get backlinks to your category and use whatever you like in your anchor. I was getting a lot of suggestions, but have now decided that you can do whatever you like to boost your category which has the listing. SEO is part of the game. We are looking for the strongest directories, but you are also allowed to use whatever resources you have available to help you rank for "directorycontest.com". :)
I personally believe that the really good directories are hard to beat, even if they don't get additional links. but we shall see :)


- Mike

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 11:55 am
I do not see why you guys would want to optimize a category in your directory for this keyword. Or better yet why you would send an anchor text for this keyword to that page. Just build relevant backlinks with your category anchor text and you could still reach the top 10. And just to let everyone know this is google we are talking about so your linking is going to have to be different then what you would do for yahoo or msn.

Do detail pages count?

GFX^^
Nov 6th 2006, 12:00 pm
so.. it is a seo contest.. I can get 100 links.. that will outrank the best directories..

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 12:20 pm
Do detail pages count?
Yes.
so.. it is a seo contest.. I can get 100 links.. that will outrank the best directories..

Hmm, do you think 100 links would outrank DP? ;)

kiviniar
Nov 6th 2006, 12:39 pm
I am Game....

Thanks for announcing the contest Mike ..

Will send in a nomination soon ;)

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 12:47 pm
I personally believe that the really good directories are hard to beat, even if they don't get additional links. but we shall see :)


I think you are correct - the strong directories will still do better than Johnny-come-lately.com who tries and SEO his way into the winner spot.

GFX^^
Nov 6th 2006, 1:33 pm
yep, with a lot less than 100 links I can outrank dp :) wanna try :P?

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 1:44 pm
yep, with a lot less than 100 links I can outrank dp :) wanna try :P?

Well, we will see in Feb 2007!

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 3:59 pm
the list of sponsors is growing, too http://www.directorycontest.com/?page_id=3
and I haven't even listed the non cash prizes. There will be a lot more than just 10 once I distribute those. Thanks a lot everyone. Let's make this contest rock!

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 4:27 pm
I am already in on this, but would like to know why this contest is so long, I would have ran only to the end of the year.

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 4:31 pm
I am already in on this, but would like to know why this contest is so long, I would have ran only to the end of the year.

Start your own contest - competition is good!

sarahk
Nov 6th 2006, 4:34 pm
It gives Google a good chance to index, dump, supplement and review all the sites thoroughly.

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 4:38 pm
Start your own contest - competition is good!

It would not be fair for me to start my own contest. I can already tell who is going to win this contest, and if they do it would also be unfair.

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 4:41 pm
Fair? Okay, whatever.

Well, it isn't fair for you to say you can tell us who is going to win, but not tell us.

It would not be fair for me to start my own contest. I can already tell who is going to win this contest, and if they do it would also be unfair.

sarahk
Nov 6th 2006, 4:43 pm
It would not be fair for me to start my own contest. I can already tell who is going to win this contest, and if they do it would also be unfair.But that's what's so great about these contests, the guys who come out of left field with a new or innovative strategy and win.

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 4:44 pm
Fair? Okay, whatever.

Well, it isn't fair for you to say you can tell us who is going to win, but not tell us.

You're right. I believe that sevenseek.com will win this thing hands down. If it does I say it would be unfair because jeff who is the main sponsor would pretty much win his own contest and thus would not have to pay the $1,500 and therefore that would make this only a $400 dollar contest. Seeing that Jeff owns sevenseek.

britishguy
Nov 6th 2006, 4:48 pm
It would not be fair for me to start my own contest. I can already tell who is going to win this contest, and if they do it would also be unfair.

I trust that you are only guessing :)

Blogmaster will I am sure abandon the contest rather than let the contest be rigged

I think it is best to give Blogmaster more time to get all the rules in place to ensure that the contest is run in fair even and unbiased way

Just our comments as we too want it to be a success as we are one of the Sponsors

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 4:48 pm
You're right. I believe that sevenseek.com will win this thing hands down. If it does I say it would be unfair because jeff who is the main sponsor would pretty much win his own contest and thus would not have to pay the $1,500 and therefore that would make this only a $400 dollar contest. Seeing that Jeff owns sevenseek.

Who is Jeff?

You have "fairness" issues.

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 4:56 pm
Who is Jeff?

You have "fairness" issues.

Jeff is the owner of http://www.avivadirectory.com and http://www.sevenseek.com/ he is also the main sponsor for this contest donating over a $1,000 worth of prizes to it. But what the hell if we can't beat him then we can't beat him.

sarahk
Nov 6th 2006, 5:05 pm
There should be two categories too. One for free directories and one for paid. After all, paid directories have a greater responsibility to add value.

FWIW I have two entries: My RealState (http://www.realstate.ws/links/detail/1901) and Property Investment (http://www.pcpropertymanager.com/directory/comments.php?id=1967) Directories.

Most contests have rules stating that staff and sponsors can't enter...

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 5:12 pm
Most contests have rules stating that staff and sponsors can't enter...

That was going to be my next point. Just like any other type of contest or winnings no sponors or staff or employees should be allowed to enter the contest.

klown
Nov 6th 2006, 5:20 pm
I say the (without reading this whole thread) that the contest should be laid down like the following. Everybody creates a new directory to enter. The directories are rated at the end by:
Number uniques (traffic)
Page rank (very important for most directories)
Amount of traffic sent to sites inside
Design
Quality of sites inside
Ranking of the directory for the link: http://www.directorycontest.com
----------
Anything else gives a hugely unfair advantage to existing directories.. I would imagine that for this contest to attract a large amount of people it needs to be completely fair instead of slanted towards some of the large directories (which have trust already).

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 5:24 pm
Where was everyone with these suggestions when Mike was asking for them? I think y'all are a couple of days late.

sarahk
Nov 6th 2006, 5:25 pm
I also think the sites should be recognised backlinks and not competing in the serps with the site the directory is promoting/supporting

link:directorycontest.com -site:directorycontest.com ('http://www.google.com/search?q=link%3Adirectorycontest.com+-site%3Adirectorycontest.com)

Where was everyone with these suggestions when Mike was asking for them? I think y'all are a couple of days late.Fair comment - but I'd understood from Mike when he was planning it that it would be to see which directories performed the best for the people being listed - and not a SERPs comp.

It would be interesting to see how each of the directory software packages fare too.

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 5:28 pm
I also think the sites should be recognised backlinks and not competing in the serps with the site the directory is promoting/supporting

link:directorycontest.com -site:directorycontest.com ('http://www.google.com/search?q=link%3Adirectorycontest.com+-site%3Adirectorycontest.com)

Sounds like a great idea - for different contest!

klown
Nov 6th 2006, 5:31 pm
Where was everyone with these suggestions when Mike was asking for them? I think y'all are a couple of days late. He started this thread 24 hours ago I think. Shouldn't be too late, though perhaps the discussion was on his forum?

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 5:36 pm
He started this thread 24 hours ago I think. Shouldn't be too late, though perhaps the discussion was on his forum?

Several days - almost a week ago:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=163716

klown
Nov 6th 2006, 5:38 pm
Several days - almost a week ago:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=163716 Ah your right oops. I guess the implementation just wasn't what I expected.

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 6:24 pm
I say the (without reading this whole thread) that the contest should be laid down like the following. Everybody creates a new directory to enter. The directories are rated at the end by:
Number uniques (traffic)
Page rank (very important for most directories)
Amount of traffic sent to sites inside
Design
Quality of sites inside
Ranking of the directory for the link: http://www.directorycontest.com
----------
Anything else gives a hugely unfair advantage to existing directories.. I would imagine that for this contest to attract a large amount of people it needs to be completely fair instead of slanted towards some of the large directories (which have trust already).

The goal of the contest is to find the directories which are the strongest, so we can all get an idea on which ones are liked by Google. The new ones won't cut it. I am interested myself in knowing which ones will be up there and which ones are left behind. We have so many directories, I think it's time to see which ones will hold up.

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 6:34 pm
I have no problem with a sponsor entering with a directory that isn't listed on the page where I have all the sponsors. I don't see how Jeff is getting any advantage that no one else can't get. If Sevenseek wins, it won't be because of Jeff being a sponsor with Aviva, but because of it's power in Google. I want the best directories to be up there, and I think since Aviva can't participate, Sevenseek should be able to. I'm looking forward to some really good competition here. And having directories which have been well established for years and are liked and trusted by the major search engines compete, will make this competition only more exciting.

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 6:39 pm
Personally, my reason for submitting to a few paid directories, is to get instant credibility in Google for clients' sites. And most directories don't give that to you. It's not really about which directories get promoted the most, but which ones Google likes. I think a lot of directories here will be a huge disappointment, just because there isn't that much benefit in getting sites listed in them. We are all after Google, which is why a lot of webmasters pay to be in those directories. I personally see a lot of fear in a lot of directory owners, fear of getting their directories exposed as not being as beneficial as they would like webmasters to believe that they are. Like Phynder has said before, I think the best thing for every directory owner would be to work on their own directories, enter the contest, and then let Google decide which directories are really it. :)

klown
Nov 6th 2006, 6:42 pm
Personally, my reason for submitting to a few paid directories, is to get instant credibility in Google for clients' sites. And most directories don't give that to you. It's not really about which directories get promoted the most, but which ones Google likes. I think a lot of directories here will be a huge disappointment, just because there isn't that much benefit in getting sites listed in them. We are all after Google, which is why a lot of webmasters pay to be in those directories. I personally see a lot of fear in a lot of directory owners, fear of getting their directories exposed as not being as beneficial as they would like webmasters to believe that they are. Like Phynder has said before, I think the best thing for every directory owner would be to work on their own directories, enter the contest, and then let Google decide which directories are really it. Agreed google is the biggie, and is one of the reasons I have a preference for high PR directories. Another reason I would choose to pay more for a directory is that the directory has real traffic who actually go to the sites.

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 6:50 pm
I have no problem with a sponsor entering with a directory that isn't listed on the page where I have all the sponsors. I don't see how Jeff is getting any advantage that no one else can't get. If Sevenseek wins, it won't be because of Jeff being a sponsor with Aviva, but because of it's power in Google. I want the best directories to be up there, and I think since Aviva can't participate, Sevenseek should be able to. I'm looking forward to some really good competition here. And having directories which have been well established for years and are liked and trusted by the major search engines compete, will make this competition only more exciting.

Don't get me wrong I am more than confident that index-it.net will be in the top 10 of this contest. I was just pointing out that if sevenseek wins then Jeff would not have to pay anything really which once again would really only make this a $400 contest. And you are right that only the strongest should be up there whether it be new or old, just making my point on who will win this thing hands down.

Anyone want to make a bet.

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 6:54 pm
Don't get me wrong I am more than confident that index-it.net will be in the top 10 of this contest. I was just pointing out that if sevenseek wins then Jeff would not have to pay anything really which once again would really only make this a $400 contest. And you are right that only the strongest should be up there whether it be new or old, just making my point on who will win this thing hands down.

Anyone want to make a bet.

Then give Jeff a run for his money ;) Btw. your math doesn't add up :)

Phynder
Nov 6th 2006, 6:56 pm
I was just pointing out that if sevenseek wins then Jeff would not have to pay anything really which once again would really only make this a $400 contest.

You know that Jeff is entering SevenSeek into the contest? Perhaps Jeff can comment on this.

By the way - I am a sponsor and don't plan on even entering my directory - because it SUCKS (http://www.phynder.com).

SiteExpress
Nov 6th 2006, 6:57 pm
I was just pointing out that if sevenseek wins then Jeff would not have to pay anything really which once again would really only make this a $400 contest.

I guess I do not see the point here. What difference would it make?


If a sponsor wins, then more power to them.
If they win, they get to save a bit of sponsor money, while the next 9 get to cash in on what is left.
If a sponsor wins why is that unfair to anyone else? You didnt win, and therefore would not have gotten the prize.I think the meat of the comment I quoted is this.

Some do not want sponsors to enter, because they know the ones sponsoring have very strong directories. By disqualifying them, it increases everyone elses chances.

britishguy
Nov 6th 2006, 6:58 pm
Then give Jeff a run for his money ;) Btw. your math doesn't add up :)

Do I see a mini contest within a contest shaping up here :D

Blogmaster
Nov 6th 2006, 7:00 pm
Do I see a mini contest within a contest shaping up here :D

There will be many ;)

banless
Nov 6th 2006, 7:26 pm
Then give Jeff a run for his money ;) Btw. your math doesn't add up :)

I know the numbers are not a 100%. I'll just keep my month shut from here and wait to see what happens. This will be alot of fun indeed. See you guys at the finish line.

sarahk
Nov 6th 2006, 7:51 pm
The goal of the contest is to find the directories which are the strongest, so we can all get an idea on which ones are liked by Google.We'll see how that goes. Having PR and being cached is only part of the story though. It'll be interesting to see if the backlinks do follow...

onlinedude
Nov 6th 2006, 7:55 pm
I thought I heard my ears burning!

First of all, if I actually do win a prize, I've pledged to give it to charity:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=173674

So, I'm not keeping anything for myself.

Second, I certainly don't think Sevenseek is a shoo in. For instance, I understand Wowdirectory is entering the contest as well, which I would certainly view as stiff competition. I'm sure there will be other major competitors as well.

britishguy
Nov 7th 2006, 12:47 am
I thought I heard my ears burning!

First of all, if I actually do win a prize, I've pledged to give it to charity:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=173674

So, I'm not keeping anything for myself.

Second, I certainly don't think Sevenseek is a shoo in. For instance, I understand Wowdirectory is entering the contest as well, which I would certainly view as stiff competition. I'm sure there will be other major competitors as well.

Great offer Jeff for the prize to go to charity :)

Well Done :)

dkessaris
Nov 7th 2006, 6:16 am
I am not sure if I will enter yet but if I do you guys don't stand a chance :D

Just some first thoughts
1. Directories with a details page have a strong advantage
2. Directories with a details page that use the site name as a title have an even stronger advantage
3. Directories with a details page that use the site name as a title and have the site's name withinn H1 tags have an even stronger advantage

Phynder
Nov 7th 2006, 6:46 am
I am not sure if I will enter yet but if I do you guys don't stand a chance :D


That is the competitive Spirit that will make this contest fun!

britishguy
Nov 7th 2006, 7:01 am
That is the competitive Spirit that will make this contest fun!

Yeah Phynder some of these guys like dkessaris and others have really great directories so they have a lot to post about

Blogmaster
Nov 7th 2006, 9:46 am
Many directory owners are worried about not looking good in this contest. I say screw that and go for it!

SiteExpress
Nov 7th 2006, 3:36 pm
Many directory owners are worried about not looking good in this contest. I say screw that and go for it!

Absolutely! there is no shame in entering and not winning. The great thing is that everyone will be able to learn from the winners.

Imagine if a Refer Listing page, or Details page would outrank everyone. Directory owners all over would be adding Refer Listing and Detail pages pages, if they dont have them already.

mdvaldosta
Nov 7th 2006, 3:41 pm
Hmm... seems like two sites I own are the first to get indexed (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.directorycontest.com&btnG=Search) : )

shenron
Nov 7th 2006, 3:56 pm
Jeff is going to donate the price he wins to charity...

EDIT

Woopsss....sorry... I jumped a few posts and didn't see it was already there.

SiteExpress
Nov 7th 2006, 3:57 pm
there are others. The search term is directorycontest.co m, instead of adding the http:// www. onto it.

mdvaldosta
Nov 7th 2006, 6:47 pm
Hmmm well that's confusing... in his first post he used http:// and the google search he linked to was with http://

BigTicket
Nov 7th 2006, 6:51 pm
Hmmm well that's confusing... in his first post he used http:// and the google search he linked to was with http://

Yes, it was changed the following day, see my post #53 and his reply #58

britishguy
Nov 8th 2006, 5:18 am
Many directory owners are worried about not looking good in this contest. I say screw that and go for it!

Yeah we agree directory owners come on board you can only gain, you have nothing to lose :)

keerap
Nov 8th 2006, 9:32 am
I am in for one of my new directory. At least this contest reminds me every day to keep improving directory SERP for next 3 months.

Phynder
Nov 8th 2006, 9:39 am
I am in for one of my new directory. At least this contest reminds me every day to keep improving directory SERP for next 3 months.

That is a good way to look at it!

So, when is someone going to make one of those cool leaderboard applications that keeps track of the contestants and their positions?

britishguy
Nov 9th 2006, 4:44 am
That is a good way to look at it!

So, when is someone going to make one of those cool leaderboard applications that keeps track of the contestants and their positions?

Blogmaster what about these suggestions from Phynder ?

Blogmaster
Nov 9th 2006, 9:15 am
Hold on, getting to it now :) Some nice movements already! http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=directorycontest.com

dkessaris
Nov 9th 2006, 10:22 am
The results don't mean much yet, we will get a more clear picture when the listing moves out of the latest links pages of directories

Edit to add: However, if you decide to stop the contest now and give me the money I wouldn't mind :D

Blogmaster
Nov 9th 2006, 10:36 am
Edit to add: However, if you decide to stop the contest now and give me the money I wouldn't mind :D

You need to earn it ;)

saadahmed007
Nov 9th 2006, 10:40 am
Well atleast i am happy that i am on main page for search of that keyword i dont care if i win but atleast i am working on it and my directory might get better se rankings becuase now i am paying special attention towards it :)
Saad

Blogmaster
Nov 10th 2006, 9:05 am
Results 1 - 10 of about 18,900 for directorycontest.com (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=directorycontest.com) it's on :)

britishguy
Nov 10th 2006, 5:18 pm
Results 1 - 10 of about 18,900 for directorycontest.com (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=directorycontest.com) it's on :)

Looks like dirave is leading the pack :)

! Ask !
Nov 10th 2006, 6:15 pm
I prefer to use the backlink metrics using yahoo (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Adirectorycontest.com+-site%3Adirectorycontest.com)

And the ranking is
1º SevenSeek
2º wow directory

Phynder
Nov 10th 2006, 7:47 pm
I prefer to use the backlink metrics using yahoo (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linkdomain%3Adirectorycontest.com+-site%3Adirectorycontest.com)

And the ranking is
1º SevenSeek
2º wow directory

Not sure how that is even remotely meaningful for evaluating how well a placement in a web directory can influence your SERP results in Google. Can you help us to understand?

Blogmaster
Nov 11th 2006, 12:21 pm
34 results now http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=directorycontest.com

saadahmed007
Nov 11th 2006, 12:24 pm
yay my directory is on 1st position after your own main site......I am moving hosts so it is down atm :( anyway it's just start...:).

Blogmaster
Nov 11th 2006, 12:25 pm
I'm impressed, dude :)

Phynder
Nov 11th 2006, 12:52 pm
I have to be honest - this is much more interesting to watch than I had originally thought.

Blogmaster
Nov 11th 2006, 12:56 pm
I knew it would happen, didn't know how, but I knew it would :)

wwws
Nov 11th 2006, 7:01 pm
That's cool...i'm last on the list at page 7 out of 3 directories one made it on the list.
http://www.google.com/search?q=directorycontest.com&hl=en&lr=&start=60&sa=N

! Ask !
Nov 11th 2006, 7:09 pm
3 place on 2º page, but I think I am the 3º Directory
http://www.google.com/search?q=directorycontest.com&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N

We are not buying selling or trading anything, probably it’s a good idea to put it on the directories main thread.

GFX^^
Nov 11th 2006, 7:57 pm
nope, I am the 3º directory :)

! Ask !
Nov 11th 2006, 8:03 pm
nope, I am the 3º directory :)

What is your directory name? :)

For example www.sufidirectory.com is displaying homepage link, I think homepages don’t count only internal pages.

britishguy
Nov 11th 2006, 8:05 pm
Seems like this is really sizzling now :)

GFX^^
Nov 11th 2006, 8:05 pm
www.clarib.com/index.php?list=latest

:) I think that counts :)

britishguy
Nov 12th 2006, 2:58 am
This is doing just great folks welcome join in :)

! Ask !
Nov 12th 2006, 10:58 am
I don’t know if “latest links” pages count they are not permanent links, the link only stays there for 1 day-1 month normally depending on new submissions.

Also nobody explained how to solve the problem of different results depending on datacenters to decide the winner.

Blogmaster
Nov 12th 2006, 12:10 pm
we will pick a datacenter, no worries :)

romow
Nov 12th 2006, 12:37 pm
we will pick a datacenter, no worries :)
Pick "a" datacenter? Then there comes a fairness issue. It may be more appropriate to pick multiple datacenters, and aggregate their ranking results somehow to get a final ranking.

Btw, without well laid out rules, I feel this contest increasingly becomes yet another seo contest.

dkessaris
Nov 12th 2006, 12:50 pm
Btw, without well laid out rules, I feel this contest increasingly becomes yet another seo contest.

I totally agree, there needs to be clear rules for this contest to be a directory contest and not just another SEO contest.

IMHO
No external linking should be allowed
No use of metatags containing directorycontest.com across the directory should be allowed
Only the actual page that contains the listing should be counted
No use of text containing directorycontest.com across the directory should be allowed

Phynder
Nov 12th 2006, 12:58 pm
IMHO
No external linking should be allowed


So, I can get all the competitors kicked out by linking to their entry?

dkessaris
Nov 12th 2006, 1:01 pm
So, I can get all the competitors kicked out by linking to their entry?

Yes, it would be better than what is happening now and I don't believe that any serious competitor would do it.

sarahk
Nov 12th 2006, 1:08 pm
Sabotage might be a problem but lets get real. What is a directory meant to do - compete on your keywords or boost your site?

And unless I've missed something but nobody goes around giving special attention to every new listing, creating external links to it. My homepage will list a few sites (usually the newest) but it's a temporary spot.

It's really important that a directory comp measures the boost to your site.

My directories are there to help my listings, not compete with them. The overall combined effect might mean that I get hits for MY keywords or for obscure phrases others don't cater for but I don't want my directories to rank well for Directory Contest. I do want my directories to be a valuable backlink though.

However until the rules are set my forum sig stays as is :)

Phynder
Nov 12th 2006, 1:09 pm
Yes, it would be better than what is happening now and I don't believe that any serious competitor would do it.

You are joking, right?

Again, for all those that are complaining several weeks after the fact - start your own contest! Mike asked for suggestions weeks ago - very few people gave him any feedback.

dkessaris
Nov 12th 2006, 1:18 pm
You are joking, right?

No.
The actual domain directoryconest.com seems to be already penalized by G because people use it as an anchor text to link to different sites. So what would be the conclusion of the contest? DirectoryX is the strongest directory and will outrank you and get you penalized?

The goal is to find the strongest directories which benefit the submitters the most.






Again, for all those that are complaining several weeks after the fact - start your own contest! Mike asked for suggestions weeks ago - very few people gave him any feedback.
In a closed forum for most of us that wanted to participate and then the rules where changed and rechanged.

Phynder
Nov 12th 2006, 1:24 pm
In a closed forum for most of us that wanted to participate and then the rules where changed and rechanged.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=163716

Closed forum?

dkessaris
Nov 12th 2006, 1:49 pm
Give me a break, that thread is October 21st, one day later
I can only share the contest in private. So if you are considering sponsorship of this contest, PM me :)
Right now the sponsors will have a section on my forum www.frogengine.com/forum and we are discussing the contest. The ideas are laid out and they're great :)

How are people supposed to comment on something they haven't seen?

Phynder
Nov 12th 2006, 3:52 pm
Give me a break, that thread is October 21st, one day later


How are people supposed to comment on something they haven't seen?

Indeed - start your own contest then - competition is good!

! Ask !
Nov 12th 2006, 4:09 pm
I respect very much Blogmaster initiative, but I already expressed my opinion this contest is only for recreational proposes, not a tool to benchmark directories, so we must look at it that way.

we will pick a datacenter, no worries :)
I find this very irregular in my opinion the winner decision should be based on the average off all know google datacenters.

Also this contest experiment would be very instructive among other things we are going to discover if google penalizes ors ban’s sites that are heavily linked to fast with the same anchor text :).

Phynder
Nov 12th 2006, 6:12 pm
I find this very irregular in my opinion the winner decision should be based on the average off all know google datacenters.

Show me an SEO competition that has done this - not to say this is an SEO competition, but since you say this is "irregular" - I need to understand what is regular.

! Ask !
Nov 12th 2006, 6:21 pm
As we all know different google datacenters give different results, so the most correct way in my opinion is to do a average of all datacenters, this doesn’t make sense to you?

Phynder
Nov 12th 2006, 8:28 pm
As we all know different google datacenters give different results, so the most correct way in my opinion is to do a average of all datacenters, this doesn’t make sense to you?

It makes no sense to me. Show me what other competitions do, then I can give you a learned answer.

romow
Nov 13th 2006, 8:03 am
Show me an SEO competition that has done this - not to say this is an SEO competition, but since you say this is "irregular" - I need to understand what is regular.
Are you implying that there's no seo competition that does rank aggregation? Or are you simply asking what's regular in such a contest?

Phynder
Nov 13th 2006, 8:22 am
Are you implying that there's no seo competition that does rank aggregation? Or are you simply asking what's regular in such a contest?

What I am saying is - I am ignorant about how SEO contests do this, please enlighten me!

romow
Nov 13th 2006, 9:29 am
I haven't participated in any of the seo contests, so the ignorance is mutual.

To me, considering multiple data centers doesn't sound like a stupid idea like you may feel, given that google's ranking algorithm is vastly distributed. If the contest holder still decides to stick with one data center, it might be better to pre-announce what data center they will use, so that there's less controversy on who is the 1st, 2nd, etc later.

There might be a better alternative... Anyway, the earlier it's decided, the better it is to everybody who's participating.

Phynder
Nov 13th 2006, 10:01 am
Anyway, the earlier it's decided, the better it is to everybody who's participating.

It has already been decided - the contest organizer will type in the query at google and get the results.

Blogmaster
Nov 13th 2006, 3:02 pm
No.
The actual domain directoryconest.com seems to be already penalized by G because people use it as an anchor text to link to different sites. So what would be the conclusion of the contest? DirectoryX is the strongest directory and will outrank you and get you penalized?





In a closed forum for most of us that wanted to participate and then the rules where changed and rechanged.

The rules have been what they are for a while now, and regardless of what people think about the backlinks to the categories, that is now what has been decided on. And if a directory is strong in itself, that is the most important thing. Backlinks may help a little bit here and there, but in Google you can't outrank a good directory with one that Google doesn't like, no matter how many backlinks you may have :)

britishguy
Nov 14th 2006, 1:00 am
This contest is creating a lot of ongoing interest and posts and the
'bottom line is'
that all will benefit from this contest

There will be actual winners and virtual winners but the main point is that all involved will win something :)

Thats what this is all about participation :)

Blogmaster
Nov 14th 2006, 4:56 am
that all will benefit from this contest



Absolutely! And I will also post the non cash prizes lateron, it will be a big list. I may be overlooking a few here and there, so if you all bear with me ... we can do this :)
;):cool:

- Mike

vipave
Nov 14th 2006, 7:40 pm
let's start!

Blogmaster
Nov 15th 2006, 7:46 am
let's start!

It already has ;)

britishguy
Nov 15th 2006, 7:21 pm
let's start!

vipave lets see you join in please :)

Blogmaster
Nov 15th 2006, 7:45 pm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=directorycontest.com
Results 1 - 10 of about 96,300 for directorycontest.com

! Ask !
Nov 15th 2006, 7:53 pm
Looks like I am on first page, I think number 5 for directories.
http://ask-dir.com/detail/link-516.html
Strangely new directories with less than 1 year have outranked more established directories.
Probably is a good idea to publish a list of the 10 first.
Cheers

banless
Nov 15th 2006, 8:28 pm
Looks like I am on first page, I think number 5 for directories.
http://ask-dir.com/detail/link-516.html
Strangely new directories with less than 1 year have outranked more established directories.
Probably is a good idea to publish a list of the 10 first.
Cheers

I also noticed the same. But as time goes on the newer sites will start to dip. I have seen this before and it is called a fresh bot listing, which means that google will display the newest sites for that keyword which are in fact strong sites, but in order to keep the ranking those sites need to keep buidling links to show that they are truly worthly to hold their place.

But I have never seen this many sites that were new show up for a fresh bot listing. Maybe it is because this keyword is fairly new as well so I guess all is fair game.

SiteExpress
Nov 15th 2006, 8:49 pm
Woohoo! I am seeing Bloggeries listed in the #2 spot for the moment!

Blogmaster
Nov 16th 2006, 7:11 am
new sponsors on board http://www.directorycontest.com/?p=9 and a lot more prizes, cash and non cash on the way for the top 10 :)


- Mike

Phynder
Nov 16th 2006, 7:33 am
new sponsors on board http://www.directorycontest.com/?p=9 and a lot more prizes, cash and non cash on the way for the top 10 :)


Things like this have a way of growing as interest increases - great job Mike!

britishguy
Nov 16th 2006, 8:00 am
Things like this have a way of growing as interest increases - great job Mike!

Yes Phynder looks like the contest is hotting up :D

Blogmaster
Nov 16th 2006, 9:28 am
Thanks, guys! I knew the turn out would be great, but this is definitely a surprise, especially the amount of quality directories which are involved!

onlinedude
Nov 16th 2006, 4:50 pm
You've spruced up the contest site - nice!

Blogmaster
Nov 17th 2006, 4:21 pm
Wait til the list of non cash contributions is added on there, whoever wins this contest, will get a lot of cool things :)

britishguy
Nov 19th 2006, 3:50 am
You've spruced up the contest site - nice!

Yes onlinedude the contest is looking good :)

britishguy
Nov 19th 2006, 9:56 am
Mike I have just been looking at the prize list you have done a great job at getting so many sponsors together, well done :)

What about considering about making sure the winners are established directories that have been online for say a set minimum period of time

I am asking this request based on transparency and fairness

This contest looks like being a resounding success which I am sure will run again for the 2nd time at the end of 2007

Directory Owners who have not entered the contest already please enter now :)

saadahmed007
Nov 19th 2006, 9:59 am
Yep, Pete.Moreover i thought directories like ask etc will come up but new directories are also coming on first page such as sufidirectory also ask is on 1st page now :)
Saad

britishguy
Nov 19th 2006, 10:04 am
Yep, Pete.Moreover i thought directories like ask etc will come up but new directories are also coming on first page such as sufidirectory also ask is on 1st page now :)
Saad

Thanks for the heads up :)

Mike will be interested on what is developing

! Ask !
Nov 19th 2006, 10:21 am
Sufi Directory is on the first page because we putted the “directorycontest.com” on the page title ;) I think homepages don’t count so the ranking goes.

1º ukseodirectory.wordpress.com/tag/directorycontestcom/
2º www.bloggeries.com/directorycontest.com-link-2238.html
3º www.dirave.com/Misc/Blogs/
4º www.index-it.net/Featured-Listings/directory-contest.html
5º ask-dir.com/detail/link-516.html
6º www.romow.com/Web-Directories/
7º www.ambatchdotcomseocontest.us/httpwwwdirectorycontestcom.html

shenron
Nov 19th 2006, 10:29 am
Ouch!

I forgot I haven't entered the contest yet... :rolleyes:

I'm gonna enter that top 10, oh yes I will :)

Blogmaster
Nov 19th 2006, 11:02 am
You know, I get what you guys are saying here, but I also believe there are many factors playing a roll which we don't fully understand. How much Google likes a directory doesn't necessarily all depend on the age. If you have a brandnew directory and get incoming links from sources Google likes, then chances are Google will fall in love with it sooner than with others. We also have a couple of months left in which there might be some new developments coming. Of course the term directorycontest.com is not yet sandboxable, but if Google starts recognizing it as a high sought after term in time, the results may wind up shifting completely :)


- Mike

shenron
Nov 19th 2006, 11:05 am
It's worth what it's worth, but you guys may want to have a look around here:

http://www.iwebtool.com/www.directorycontest.com/ :D

Blogmaster
Nov 19th 2006, 11:12 am
It's worth what it's worth, but you guys may want to have a look around here:

http://www.iwebtool.com/www.directorycontest.com/ :D

hmm what exactly am I looking at?

shenron
Nov 19th 2006, 11:13 am
Oh... I just meant the "prediction" there (worth what is worth), but most specially the ammount of credited links that rocketed in the last 2 weeks.

Blogmaster
Nov 19th 2006, 11:17 am
ahh ic, I haven't even looked at stuff other than the mass results in Google :)

SiteExpress
Nov 19th 2006, 1:10 pm
One problem with sulfi is that the owner broke a contest rule by placing the kkeywords in the footer. http://www.sufidirectory.com/

At least, I think that was one of the rules listed on the contesst blog.

romow
Nov 19th 2006, 1:50 pm
One problem with sulfi is that the owner broke a contest rule by placing the kkeywords in the footer. http://www.sufidirectory.com/

At least, I think that was one of the rules listed on the contesst blog.

Can someone quote the current contest rule that makes the sufi directory disqualified?

I see the link on that guy's directory footer does not point to directorycontest.com, but to the directory itself.. and so with the current rule set, I'm not sure whether this link qualifies as the contest "listing."

BigTicket
Nov 19th 2006, 1:52 pm
Romow, I think he just means that that page just has the title and a link but not an actual directory listing.

romow
Nov 19th 2006, 1:56 pm
In order for you to participate, all you need to do is list this blog anywhere in your directory. The listing has to be a regular listing or a featured listing and cannot be a sitewide or a homepage listing. On February 6th 2007, 10 AM P.S.T. we will search Google for directorycontest.com/ and whichever directories are coming up, are going to win the prizes.


The sufi directory has a directorycontest.com listing in one of its internal category, and the directory shows up with google search with keyword "directorycontest.com." So I don't see anything written in the official contest site that would disqualify this guy's google ranking. If this is not the intention of the contest (which I would think so), the rules need to be made more clear so that people will not waste their effort this way.

saadahmed007
Nov 19th 2006, 2:00 pm
Hi,
I have sent pm to owner of sufi directory on v7n.Hopefully he will remove link :) As he is thinking that he is on top
Saad

BigTicket
Nov 19th 2006, 2:04 pm
The sufi directory has a directorycontest.com listing in one of its internal category, and the directory shows up with google search with keyword "directorycontest.com." So I don't see anything written in the official contest site that would disqualify this guy's google ranking. If this is not the intention of the contest (which I would think so), the rules need to be made more clear so that people will not waste their effort this way.

Right, but the page that is showing up is not the listing or detail page and I think (that is if I understand the rules myself) that is why that page does not count. ????

romow
Nov 19th 2006, 2:06 pm
Right, but the page that is showing up is not the listing or detail page and I think (that is if I understand the rules myself) that is why that page does not count. ????
That's what needs to be written in the official contest rule, which is currently missing.

BigTicket
Nov 19th 2006, 2:09 pm
That's what needs to be written in the official contest rule, which is currently missing.

This is what is quoted on the blog (http://www.directorycontest.com) itself

The listing has to be a regular listing or a featured listing and cannot be a sitewide or a homepage listing

SiteExpress
Nov 19th 2006, 2:13 pm
The contest is meant to show which directories benefit the LISTINGS within them, as has been stated many times by Blogmaster.

I do not think it takes much to realize that sitewide links to either the contest site, or to the actual listing itself is not something that is normally done within a directory for their listings.

Backlinking was ONLY allowed because it would be too easy for people to sabotage another directory and too hard for anyone to regulate, otherwise, it would have also been something that directories do not normally do for their listings.

romow
Nov 19th 2006, 2:14 pm
This is what is quoted on the blog (http://www.directorycontest.com) itself

Yes, the sufi directory has the directorycontest.com listing in one of its internal categories, so it satisfies this rule.

And the homepage footer link is not pointing to directorycontest.com, and so may not be considered as "contest listing."

So if I'm not mistaken, I think this guy seems to judiciously escape any possible rule breaking (according to the currently written rules).

romow
Nov 19th 2006, 2:27 pm
The contest is meant to show which directories benefit the LISTINGS within them, as has been stated many times by Blogmaster.

I do not think it takes much to realize that sitewide links to either the contest site, or to the actual listing itself is not something that is normally done within a directory for their listings.

Backlinking was ONLY allowed because it would be too easy for people to sabotage another directory and too hard for anyone to regulate, otherwise, it would have also been something that directories do not normally do for their listings.

That's your interpretation, and the owner of the sufi directory (or others) may think differently, simply by relying on the current rule set. :)

My point was that the official contest rules will probably need to be made more clear so that people will not waste their effort only to find that their entry does not qualify at the end of the day.

saadahmed007
Nov 19th 2006, 2:31 pm
Dont worry about Sufi Directory guys i've pmed owner of Sufi Directory :).I am sure he will read rules and remove sitewide links :)
Saad

! Ask !
Nov 19th 2006, 2:42 pm
Of course the term directorycontest.com is not yet sandboxable, but if Google starts recognizing it as a high sought after term in time, the results may wind up shifting completely :)

This is a very interesting comment, probably we are seeing results that don’t take in account the age of the domain, and the directories listed on the 1º page are very strong if you forget about the displayed PR and look at the backlinks.

sarahk
Nov 19th 2006, 3:10 pm
Anything to stop us having sitewides in the leadup and removing them on the judgement day? Or does the site have to be clean throughout?

SiteExpress
Nov 19th 2006, 5:48 pm
Yes, the sufi directory has the directorycontest.com listing in one of its internal categories, so it satisfies this rule.

And the homepage footer link is not pointing to directorycontest.com, and so may not be considered as "contest listing."

So if I'm not mistaken, I think this guy seems to judiciously escape any possible rule breaking (according to the currently written rules).


I'm sure this is not Mike's intentions, so I will get with him and work on putting up rules that are a bit clearer.

britishguy
Nov 20th 2006, 12:52 am
What I like about this contest is that it is very proactive it has a 'real time experience feedback' meaning that the data and stats change daily this adds to the excitement :)

Expect twists and turns in this contest so keep your eye on this thread for updates ;)

sarahk
Nov 20th 2006, 1:10 am
but isn't that true for all the seo contests?

Blogmaster
Nov 20th 2006, 1:43 pm
It's not an seo contest :)

britishguy
Nov 20th 2006, 2:09 pm
It's not an seo contest :)

Thanks. That clears up that point

Back to the contest more directories should enter NOW you will all benefit

Come on Directory Owners join in the prizes alone are reason enough to enter :)

Blogmaster
Nov 20th 2006, 2:18 pm
I'm getting more and more emails from people willing to sponsor.
If you guys want to offer a cash prize or cash and non cash, PM me.
If you offer non cash prizes such as featured links, sitewide links etc. on your own sites, please list them in this thread or this thread (http://www.frogengine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638) on my forum, and when the time comes, there is going to be a list including everything.

Whoever will win this one, is going to do well!

sarahk
Nov 20th 2006, 5:55 pm
http://www.interface-7.net/20030129/Tuiz.jpg?x=8252545625c791428f9.03818421

Blogmaster
Nov 20th 2006, 5:56 pm
I will need more bandwidth soon ;)

saadahmed007
Nov 20th 2006, 6:10 pm
Hi Mike,
Bandwidth for which site?
Saad

Blogmaster
Nov 20th 2006, 6:31 pm
Right now we're good, but traffic is definitely growing :) On another note: I think that it's Google's job to make sure that only good directories are being listed. But I will do some thinking and talking to my friends, and get back to you guys about some of the issues which have been adressed in here.

britishguy
Nov 21st 2006, 1:31 am
Blogmaster who is leading now? :)

How often will you post the Leader Board?

saadahmed007
Nov 21st 2006, 2:27 am
Mike if you need bandwidth etc let me know i will host on my dedicated server :)
Saad

Blogmaster
Nov 21st 2006, 6:51 am
Blogmaster who is leading now? :)

How often will you post the Leader Board?

http://www.romow.com/Web-Directories/ is ahead on my end.
Mike if you need bandwidth etc let me know i will host on my dedicated server :)
Saad

Thanks, Saad. Will contact you about that and some other stuff lateron :)


- M

romow
Nov 21st 2006, 7:49 am
http://www.romow.com/Web-Directories/ is ahead on my end.


:) That's good to know, but our directory may not stay on top for very long as there are many quality participants out there...

Blogmaster
Nov 21st 2006, 7:53 am
That's what makes the contest great. The amount of good directories. It's nice to see that the good ones are ahead ... except a couple of exceptions which Google needs to sort out ;)

banless
Nov 21st 2006, 8:45 am
:) That's good to know, but our directory may not stay on top for very long as there are many quality participants out there...

Yeh, I'm seeing ukseodirectory.wordpress.com in 1st and romow in second but does but does the wordpress directory site count? It is a subdomain so just wondering if that is ok. No offense to the site they have done a great job with the ranking, but the site does not really look like a directory.

klown
Nov 21st 2006, 8:49 am
BTW are you going to use a specific data center for rankings? Just wondering about that, for me ask-dir is the first directory there.

banless
Nov 21st 2006, 8:59 am
BTW are you going to use a specific data center for rankings? Just wondering about that, for me ask-dir is the first directory there.

what data center are you using.

Blogmaster
Nov 21st 2006, 9:05 am
Yeh, I'm seeing ukseodirectory.wordpress.com in 1st and romow in second but does but does the wordpress directory site count? It is a subdomain so just wondering if that is ok. No offense to the site they have done a great job with the ranking, but the site does not really look like a directory.

No, it doesn't count since it's not a directory. I do appreciate their efforts, but this is a directory contest, not an seo contest where any site can win the prize :)

GFX^^
Nov 21st 2006, 9:11 am
does www.sufidirectory.com counts? I mean.. it is not a category or detail page.. it is homepage..

banless
Nov 21st 2006, 9:25 am
I think that the list below is accurate as far as the top ten goes.

1. www.romow.com/Web-Directories/
2. www.bloggeries.com/directorycontest.com-link-2238.html
3. www.dirave.com/Misc/Blogs/
4. www.sevenseek.com/dir/504.php
5. www.clarib.com/detail/link-2423.html
6. www.index-it.net/Featured-Listings/directory-contest.html
7. www.ask-dir.com/detail/link-516.html
8. www.webverve.com/link-detail/link-364.html
9. www.linksarena.com/webmasters/
10. www.2yi.net/internet/directories/directorycontest-com-l6066.html

! Ask !
Nov 21st 2006, 9:40 am
I get:

1. www.romow.com/Web-Directories/
2. www.dirave.com/Misc/Blogs/
3. www.bloggeries.com/directorycontest.com-link-2238.html
4. www.clarib.com/detail/link-2423.html
5. www.sevenseek.com/dir/504.php
6. www.index-it.net/Featured-Listings/directory-contest.html
7. www.ask-dir.com/detail/link-516.html
8. www.webverve.com/link-detail/link-364.html

banless
Nov 21st 2006, 9:50 am
Maybe it would be a good idea to chose one data center to check and then post that data center here is this thread so that everyone knows which rankings are accurate. This way there is no confusion in the end.

Blogmaster
Nov 22nd 2006, 8:33 pm
We will come up with a good solution :)

shenron
Nov 24th 2006, 4:56 am
Rahhh!

Finally I managed to have my listing up... :rolleyes:

**Lazy Me!**

Let's see how it goes in the end. :)

QUESTION? - Are we allowed to have more than 1 listing for directorycontest.com per page? 1 featured and 1 regular... and others.????

BTW - My listing is here: http://www.squidlink.com/Computers/Web_Directories/ :angel:

GFX^^
Nov 24th 2006, 1:36 pm
just so you posted something on the blog, can you please from the top 10 if there is any site that don't claisfy? thanks :)

britishguy
Nov 24th 2006, 3:55 pm
just so you posted something on the blog, can you please from the top 10 if there is any site that don't claisfy? thanks :)

Top 10 list wanted I think this means:)

Blogmaster
Nov 24th 2006, 4:47 pm
just so you posted something on the blog, can you please from the top 10 if there is any site that don't claisfy? thanks :)

Several won't classify and I will tell you guys lateron which ones ;)

saadahmed007
Nov 25th 2006, 12:00 pm
Cool then it seems my directory Links Arena (http://www.linksarena.com) is in top 10 :)
Saad

Blogmaster
Nov 25th 2006, 1:36 pm
Cool then it seems my directory Links Arena (http://www.linksarena.com) is in top 10 :)
Saad

Links Arena is one of the hot new directories which Google really seems to like. Forplex Business Directory (http://www.forplex.com) and a few others seem to be as well. Just because a directory is new, doesn't mean it doesn't have a shot. Some of the new ones are actually more beneficial to submit to than some of the older ones which have been "abused" to the max!

mixke
Nov 25th 2006, 8:15 pm
Links Arena is one of the hot new directories which Google really seems to like. Forplex Business Directory (http://www.forplex.com) and a few others seem to be as well. Just because a directory is new, doesn't mean it doesn't have a shot. Some of the new ones are actually more beneficial to submit to than some of the older ones which have been "abused" to the max!
abused to max ?

Blogmaster
Nov 25th 2006, 8:46 pm
A lot of old and established directories will list any sort of site that pays them. The value of the directory will go down, and Google catches on as well. Age is an advantage, but if you don't take editing seriously, your directory can become worthless in time.

mixke
Nov 25th 2006, 9:20 pm
A lot of old and established directories will list any sort of site that pays them. The value of the directory will go down, and Google catches on as well. Age is an advantage, but if you don't take editing seriously, your directory can become worthless in time.
Noted .. :) :D :)

Blogmaster
Nov 25th 2006, 9:31 pm
JoeAnt has just joined. Where is DMOZ? ;)

VIP
Nov 25th 2006, 9:57 pm
Maybe I should buy a directory I could always use that money. :D

kiviniar
Nov 25th 2006, 11:38 pm
This is nice,,,,

http://www.romow.com/Web-Directories/ - no 1 in google...

The official site is a distant 2, lets see how long can it hold on

VIP
Nov 26th 2006, 12:32 am
Wanna give me a deal so I can put my site on your directory ;) Im not a PR3 yet PM me if your feeling nice ;)

Blogmaster
Nov 26th 2006, 5:59 am
From the feedback I have received, the top results have had a nice increase in business due to this. Well deserved. Just so you guys know, none of the directories in my signature are in the contest. They are however on the list of sponsors (http://www.directorycontest.com/?page_id=3). If they were in the contest, I'm sure they would all do very well :)

britishguy
Nov 27th 2006, 5:56 pm
Contest is hotting up and it is not yet December :)

Phynder
Nov 27th 2006, 6:01 pm
From the feedback I have received, the top results have had a nice increase in business due to this.

That is very cool! And yet another motivation for directories to get into the contest.

Oh - Mike - thanks for the holiday IM greetings - I was out of town at the time.

an0n
Nov 27th 2006, 6:01 pm
Question about the link.

is it ok to add a sitewide link pointing to the category, while using the anchor text(DirectoryContest.com) where the actual listing resides?

shenron
Nov 28th 2006, 5:27 am
Question about the link.

is it ok to add a sitewide link pointing to the category, while using the anchor text(DirectoryContest.com) where the actual listing resides?

IMHO it shouldn't be possible.

Also, Mike, can you please answer my previous question?

Can I list directorycontest.com more than once at the same page?
1 featured, 1 or 2 regulars, etc...?

h4nh4n
Nov 28th 2006, 6:54 am
Hi mike, count me in

Project Ultra Directory (http://www.projectultra.com/Blogs/Personal/)

Blogmaster
Nov 28th 2006, 10:51 am
It's not coming up ;)

tonyrich
Nov 28th 2006, 1:54 pm
it's not coming up for me either

sarahk
Nov 28th 2006, 2:04 pm
Hi mike, count me in

Project Ultra Directory (http://www.projectultra.com/Blogs/Personal/)I can see it!

h4nh4n
Nov 28th 2006, 7:54 pm
I can see it!
i mean I just added to my dir :p

webguy84
Nov 29th 2006, 12:45 am
I made a search on google for http://www.directorycontest.com and all I got were 6 results. Howcome?

saadahmed007
Nov 29th 2006, 1:41 am
Webguy,
Keyword is directorycontest.com not http://www.directorycontest.com
anyways when i search i get this
Results 1 - 10 of about 153,000 for directorycontest.com. (0.04 seconds)
Saad

webguy84
Nov 29th 2006, 2:33 am
OK< after a little delay, the contest is now up and running. The basic rules are outlined on the official blog which is
http://www.directorycontest.com
In order to win, you simply add this blog to your own directory.
The first 10 directories showing up in Google for http://www.directorycontest.com (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.directorycontest.com) on February 6th 2007, 10 AM P.S.T. will win prizes.
I have already listed cash prizes for the first 3, but there are massloads of non cash prizes which I have not yet listed, as well as others who have committed to cash prizes without revealing the amount yet.

The goal is to find the strongest directories which benefit the submitters the most.

More prizes will be listed tomorrow. Good luck to all :)


Mike

The first 3 directories will get $1,200, $400 and $200 as well as many non cash prizes.


oh ok sorry but as you may read above he wrote http://www.directorycontest.com. Sry for the misunderstanding

saadahmed007
Nov 29th 2006, 2:35 am
Yeah that's right but later he changed keyword from http://www.directorycontest.com to directorycontest.com :)
Saad

britishguy
Nov 30th 2006, 3:27 pm
More traffic seems to be coming from everywhere now the contest has great reach and location spread

Looking good:)

Blogmaster
Nov 30th 2006, 3:59 pm
Looking very good :)

h4nh4n
Nov 30th 2006, 4:10 pm
my dir showing in page 5 :(