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nevalex
Oct 31st 2006, 1:48 am
Hey All!

what is the process of getting a link from http://en.wikipedia.org

please share

Thanx!

Dassie
Oct 31st 2006, 2:20 am
Well,it all depends where you want your link displayed.If you for example want your link to be maybe displayed on a programming page in wikipedia,search for it on the site.Click on a relevant page about maybe what is programming etc.Once on that page create an account on wikipedia.After that,check,if there are some link to other pages at the bottom.If there is,click on the "edit" link on that page.The source code of that page will be displayed.Scroll to the bottom where the links are and add yours.Once finished click on save or preview to see how it will look.

Hope this is what you are looking for.

Dassie
Oct 31st 2006, 2:24 am
You can check this link,if the links in the signature is what you want to link to frm wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming

At the bottom is external links,you can add yours there as I described.

nevalex
Oct 31st 2006, 2:36 am
Hey Dassie!

didn't quite get you...

here is url

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming#External_links

but you cannot add links at the External links page - I see no edit button

nevalex
Oct 31st 2006, 2:43 am
ok I see it....

what is more important...

looks like adding a link is not a problem.... I think that everybody would have done that - but this page is not a link farm... so there are some regulations that must be fulfilled

do you know any... or where it can be read?

l

trichnosis
Oct 31st 2006, 4:30 am
write your own article. adding your link is the simplest way to do and that is spam i think. they will not allow to do that. wiki editors read all articles. if you make spam , i'm sure they will prevent you

nevalex
Oct 31st 2006, 4:42 am
So if I write an article - I can post it somewhere there? And If they like it... they will keep it? Is this how it works?

Where can I add this article? As I already have one at hand... should I e-mail it to the editor? So he/she could look through it and aproove or dissapprove it. Or I can put it manually through "edit" ?

Any ideas?

lawdog
Oct 31st 2006, 8:46 am
I got a few links in Wiki but they were soon removed. I did this months ago before I understood there rules. The best way to get a link is to build something link worthy. It is also a good idea to contribute as much as you can. The more you give the more you can promote.

tekmox
Nov 1st 2006, 3:53 pm
Wiki takes down links very fast if you are just adding links on there. The point of wiki is more of you contribute something into the page that is worth it for the other users to go to instead of you trying to drive traffic into your site.

For example, if you look up dogs, there must be different kinds of dogs. If your website have information about how different breeds of dogs are or compare one to another, then maybe you can try to add a link at the bottom. Otherwise, if your selling dog food and dog supplies, it will probably be gone real fast.

BuenosAires
Nov 2nd 2006, 12:43 pm
Here is an interesting method for getting links from Wikipedia. Involves some work...

1. Find the Wikipedia article that you REALLY want a link from. Unfortunately, a link on this page will usually be out of the question. So...

2. Look for Wikipedia articles that are very closely related to that initial article that are either very short/sketchy, or don't exist at all. It is best when these articles are wikilinked from the original article you really wanted the link from and even better when the wikilink is in red, meaning that an article was not written yet.

3. Research the hell out of the subject matter of the article that is related to the original one you wanted a link from. Write a great page on it, in your own style, and put it on YOUR website. No ads, no crap around it.

4. Then re-write the article in a more "wikipedia" style, and put it up on Wikipedia. Then at the bottom link to the page you created on your website as the source.

5. Make sure that the article is linked from the original article you wanted the link from, so it is passing its content related link juice through to you via this extra step.

6. Try and build further wikilinks from other related wikipedia articles into the article with the link to your site, to increase its link juice.

7. Repeat as necessary.

Hope that is of use. Any feedback/suggestions?

With this tactic, you are not spamming wikipedia, you are helping it by adding articles they need that currently are too short/sketchy or don't exist. :D Everyone is a winner!

trichnosis
Nov 2nd 2006, 5:45 pm
BuenosAires thanks for the tip. i apply these tips and write result here

cocaine
Nov 2nd 2006, 10:39 pm
In whole we need to write a good article with our link to our website.

BuenosAires
Nov 3rd 2006, 9:13 am
In whole we need to write a good article with our link to our website.

Well, it's a little more than that.

If the article you write on Wikipedia has nothing to do with your website, I doubt the link will stay up for long.

However, if the Wikipedia article is obviously largely based on another article on your website, then the link is likely to last. Providing the article is of a good quality and more or less in line with Wikipedia guidelines.

Hoosierhunter
Nov 4th 2006, 6:00 pm
Wikipedia articles are edited constantly by admin, competitors, helpful folks, and even trolls. Good luck.

TorchedSEO
Nov 4th 2006, 6:50 pm
The easiest way to get wikipedia links is by making a "news" section on your site about your industry. For example if you had a mortgage site you could put in news about rates rising and then just search blogs for opions from mortgage "experts" and include it on your news story. Then on wikipedia you make the link "experts predicting 07 real estate buble" or whatever is relevent.

Cryogenius
Nov 5th 2006, 3:55 am
Here are some tips I which I've discovered:
Create an account first - I'm guessing that anonymous edits are less tolerated compared to edits by registered users.
Check the history of the page before you submit the link. If there's a lot of recent activity and many comments like "removed link spam", then you may struggle to keep your link in.
Change the default edit comment from the default /* External Links */ to something like "Added related link". Editors will be looking out for the default comment...
Don't add all your links on the same day - spread them over several days or weeks.
Also look for articles on www.WikiHow.com. They are much shorter than on Wikipedia, and harder to add links too. I usually look for similar WikiHow articles, and link them together while also adding my own (highly relevant) link.

Cryo.

rosiee007
Nov 5th 2006, 5:36 am
Well,it all depends where you want your link displayed.If you for example want your link to be maybe displayed on a programming page in wikipedia,search for it on the site.Click on a relevant page about maybe what is programming etc.Once on that page create an account on wikipedia.After that,check,if there are some link to other pages at the bottom.If there is,click on the "edit" link on that page.The source code of that page will be displayed.Scroll to the bottom where the links are and add yours.Once finished click on save or preview to see how it will look.

Hope this is what you are looking for.

If you go about this method, I dont think your link will stay long on Wiki :o You have to make a useful contribution and 'earn' the link from Wiki. Having a very useful site, on a very specific niche can help, and writing articles, as the other posts mentioned will help.

wireddeals
Nov 5th 2006, 7:20 pm
Here is some food for thought. Taken from searchenginewatch forum.

A warning to those adding their own sites to Wikipedia
Wikipedia is considering working with Google to battle link-spam, and adding your own site to an article IS considered spamming. Read more:
joostdevalk.nl/blog/the-risks-of-link-spamming-wikipedia/

TomN
Nov 6th 2006, 2:26 pm
One of my non-profit websites was related to several pages on Wikipedia.

I was browsing wikipedia one day and I found these related pages and thought, "hey if I list this website, users can find out more specific info about blahblah".

So I added a link to the homepage for a highly related page, and a few more very deep links to extremely specific topics.

It adds value for users when you don't try to create content for wikipedia... your website should be created WELL before you even consider adding a link to Wikipedia.

ly2
Nov 6th 2006, 4:08 pm
I have found a very good way recently.
I go to wiki pages that are about my niche. I then create a html file on my domain that has a huge page of pictures of that particular niche.
No other links, no ad''s, no text. Just a headline that says
"Pictures of blah blah"

So far I'm 2 for 2. One is a link form a pr5 wiki and the other is a link from a pr2.

I mean, I guess it doesn't really help my site any because there are no links pointing back at my main site, but whatever. It only takes a few min to do it, and it certainly cant hurt my sites ranking. And it actually ad's to the quality of the wiki community and particular page. It's a win/win situation.

Maybe the next page I do, I will add a small link at the bottom that says "Back to homepage" or something. I'm going to keep playing with it and see what I can do. I think that if you're adding good stuff to the wiki, no ad's, no links or other crap, then your link will be accepted.
I used to do the same thing as I'm doing now, only I would have the pictures displayed along with my sites template and links, the link would quickly be removed accompanied by a nasty note for the reason it was removed.

Hope this helps you.
Just remember, make sure the link is aimed at helping the wiki page, not your page. If you get a link on there, even if it has no links back to your main page, you still benefit. Just try to work FOR the wikipage, not for your page.

Good luck!

ahkip
Nov 6th 2006, 7:00 pm
Here are some tips I which I've discovered:

Check the history of the page before you submit the link. If there's a lot of recent activity and many comments like "removed link spam", then you may struggle to keep your link in.Cryo.

how can i look for the history of page?

Cryogenius
Nov 7th 2006, 12:25 pm
Click on "history" at the top of the page, just to the right of "edit this page".

Another tip to consider - if your page has lots of adverts on it, remove them for a day or two after adding your link to Wikipedia. I'm sure that editors are less tolerant of pages that look like they built for profit.

So far my success rate for links staying in Wikipedia is about 50%, and one of them is sending me 10 hits a day. I'm not sure I'm totaly comfortable with doing this though... some of the editors can be snotty when they remove your links sometimes.

Cryo.

Textlinksguru
Nov 7th 2006, 10:51 pm
I don't think it work really unless you have real good content. I've tried to post the link up there but they do moderate it pretty well so.... Unless you have real content which your link should be up there, then i think it would be a waste of time.

euwe
Nov 8th 2006, 1:08 am
Links normally to be avoided
A page that you own or maintain, even if the guidelines above imply that it should be linked. This is because of neutrality and point-of-view concerns; neutrality is an important and difficult objective at Wikipedia. If your page is relevant and informative, mention it on the talk page and let unbiased Wikipedia editors decide whether to add the link.

Don't use Wikipedia for your backlinking strategy, it is bad.

BuenosAires
Nov 8th 2006, 2:11 pm
Don't use Wikipedia for your backlinking strategy, it is bad.

Works just fine for me!

ahkip
Nov 8th 2006, 2:21 pm
Don't use Wikipedia for your backlinking strategy, it is bad.

It depends on the quality of the link.

BuenosAires
Nov 8th 2006, 2:32 pm
It depends on the quality of the link.

Precisely, and whether you are adding value to Wikipedia by improving the wiki article at the same time.

disgust
Nov 9th 2006, 10:05 am
I just blogged about how to get wikipedia links (http://www.revenuegirl.com/getting-wikipedia-links/) :)

nevalex
Nov 10th 2006, 8:38 am
Hey Guys!

thanx a lot for share!

I have read all that you have suggested here and made some conclusions...

I decided to write a case on customized programming and also will place some tips on how to deal with problems we faced during the proccess...

Than I will post this article in a proper section in Wiki

I'm pretty sure this will work...

Seiya
Nov 10th 2006, 10:38 am
If you have a good article and know how to fit the links in its not hard... you have to see it as a way to add resources to wiki not getting just another link =]

qwerty100
Nov 10th 2006, 5:45 pm
Here is an interesting method for getting links from Wikipedia. Involves some work...

1. Find the Wikipedia article that you REALLY want a link from. Unfortunately, a link on this page will usually be out of the question. So...

2. Look for Wikipedia articles that are very closely related to that initial article that are either very short/sketchy, or don't exist at all. It is best when these articles are wikilinked from the original article you really wanted the link from and even better when the wikilink is in red, meaning that an article was not written yet.

3. Research the hell out of the subject matter of the article that is related to the original one you wanted a link from. Write a great page on it, in your own style, and put it on YOUR website. No ads, no crap around it.

4. Then re-write the article in a more "wikipedia" style, and put it up on Wikipedia. Then at the bottom link to the page you created on your website as the source.

5. Make sure that the article is linked from the original article you wanted the link from, so it is passing its content related link juice through to you via this extra step.

6. Try and build further wikilinks from other related wikipedia articles into the article with the link to your site, to increase its link juice.

7. Repeat as necessary.

Hope that is of use. Any feedback/suggestions?

With this tactic, you are not spamming wikipedia, you are helping it by adding articles they need that currently are too short/sketchy or don't exist. :D Everyone is a winner!

I've done something similar to this before. I had information on my site and I spent about an hour updating an article and using my site as a reference. My link stayed up for about 6 months. Then an admin came through, decided my link was spam and removed it. However he left in the content that was referencing my content. Wikipedia makes a big deal about needing to have references for everything, but they don't tie references to the content that was created from the reference.

I don't mind them removing my link, but their current system of trying to tie content to references for that content is pretty broken. Honestly I think they should re-implement the nofollow tag in order to cut down on spam and make it easier for real references to stay on and not be deleted.

tekmox
Nov 13th 2006, 12:14 pm
Here is an interesting method for getting links from Wikipedia. Involves some work...

1. Find the Wikipedia article that you REALLY want a link from. Unfortunately, a link on this page will usually be out of the question. So...

2. Look for Wikipedia articles that are very closely related to that initial article that are either very short/sketchy, or don't exist at all. It is best when these articles are wikilinked from the original article you really wanted the link from and even better when the wikilink is in red, meaning that an article was not written yet.

3. Research the hell out of the subject matter of the article that is related to the original one you wanted a link from. Write a great page on it, in your own style, and put it on YOUR website. No ads, no crap around it.

4. Then re-write the article in a more "wikipedia" style, and put it up on Wikipedia. Then at the bottom link to the page you created on your website as the source.

5. Make sure that the article is linked from the original article you wanted the link from, so it is passing its content related link juice through to you via this extra step.

6. Try and build further wikilinks from other related wikipedia articles into the article with the link to your site, to increase its link juice.

7. Repeat as necessary.

Hope that is of use. Any feedback/suggestions?

With this tactic, you are not spamming wikipedia, you are helping it by adding articles they need that currently are too short/sketchy or don't exist. :D Everyone is a winner!

I gotta say, that is pretty amazing and it does work! I just tried it out.

BuenosAires
Nov 13th 2006, 12:19 pm
I gotta say, that is pretty amazing and it does work! I just tried it out.

Thanks :)

I would wait for a few months to see if it stays up though!

(Until then, you could always give me some positive rep for my advice ;) )

tekmox
Nov 13th 2006, 1:46 pm
Yeah, gonna be checking up on it on a weekly basis but it does seem like as long as you contribute something useful that others approve, it would stay up. I am actually prepare for my link to be taken off at any moment, just trying out how everything goes atm.

Cryogenius
Nov 13th 2006, 2:26 pm
Be warned - if you add too many links, you can really upset an editor and they will hunt down and remove every link you've ever added, even the ones that were really relevant. :mad:

nevalex
Nov 14th 2006, 4:31 am
Be warned - if you add too many links, you can really upset an editor and they will hunt down and remove every link you've ever added, even the ones that were really relevant. :mad:

yes... I totally agree to that...

The main idea is just to do your best not as a link manger but a link builder... Do smth useful for your own site (making a content page that you would be proud of) and for Wiki as well - letting them know, what they don't know (yet)!

In fact, I think that providing a link back to Wiki from your content page will be a good idea.... At least you don't just take from them - but also contributeto them as much as you can.

Probably you can go like this:

/-------end of your article----./

this article is also posted at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the page you'd like to link to)

or

other variant

read some more related articles here: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/some articles page)


might work.....

Cheers :)

bflora
Nov 15th 2006, 1:32 am
If you run a site with actual content on it instead of MFA Spam all over the place it's not too hard to get a link up on Wikipedia.

I have about 15 or so links on pages for various chicago neighborhoods, Chicago's own entry, and the entries for a few of the schools. How?

I edit a Chicago news blog by student journalists. Good stuff that people on Wikipedia are interested in...

vishuboy
Nov 15th 2006, 5:50 am
it looks easy to get a link from wikipedia but the main autohor or the wikipedia people deletes the back links

disgust
Nov 15th 2006, 6:53 am
it looks easy to get a link from wikipedia but the main autohor or the wikipedia people deletes the back links

they don't if you follow the advice in this thread and use common sense :)

nevalex
Nov 15th 2006, 8:10 am
they don't if you follow the advice in this thread and use common sense :)

Well sometimes it is hard to predict editior's logics... why he/she removes links that really contribute to Wiki....

disgust
Nov 15th 2006, 8:17 am
Well sometimes it is hard to predict editior's logics... why he/she removes links that really contribute to Wiki....

it's possible that you can do everything correctly and your additions will still be reverted, that's true. but if you follow the advice in this thread the chances of that happen drop significantly.

tekmox
Nov 20th 2006, 11:38 am
Yeah, just found out that my link got taken down. When they edited my content out, they were commented that the ref was most likely a pr spam. * sad face *

disgust
Nov 20th 2006, 1:59 pm
it looks like they're going after anyone that mentioned their sites in my blog or on digitalpoint-- seen quite a few discussions about it on wikipedia lately

Lexiseek
Nov 21st 2006, 2:48 am
it looks like they're going after anyone that mentioned their sites in my blog or on digitalpoint-- seen quite a few discussions about it on wikipedia lately

Could be the reason that almost no one exposes ACTUAL IDEAS that work on webmaster forums :)

disgust
Nov 21st 2006, 6:24 am
there's nothing wrong with revealing ideas that work. the only thing here that's been proven to be a bad idea is revealing what specific questions that may be questionable for a specific site you're using. as long as you don't reveal the site you're pretty much fine.

not much point in webmaster forums if no one's willing to share information that helps.

Seiya
Nov 21st 2006, 8:11 am
Heh i see many people adding links to wiki on irrelevant pages in different languages. Assuming no editor of wikipedia will see it in a while since the language is not so popular with wiki.... that sucks.

disgust
Nov 21st 2006, 9:48 am
the links on foreign wikipedia pages is an interesting idea but not many people realize most (all?) of the non-english wikipedia sections use nofollow.

pluto459
Nov 21st 2006, 3:03 pm
HA HA

I have never seen such bull than on wikipedia. I have www.freeredboxcodes.com and came across the wiki on redbox. I see there are links and added mine. THey would stay for weeks and then all the links woul dbe gone except for one leading me to believe that the owner of that site was deleting the others.

I wasnt evening spaming and my site was relevant to the lsiting talking about the free codes. I would add it and same thing like5 times.

They have this mediation that you can goto for problems like this where you can ask to freeze the listing and not let changes happen. The whole process takes forever and if you arent familiar with using wiki pain in the butt.

I wait a month for a reply and then i find repsonse that case was closed even though I emailed everyone I could from the mediation to get this resolved.

I gave up, months later I see they totally redid the listing and added quite a bit more of info. So i put my links in the new external links only to have it removed. I do mediation again.THis time they look at the case and they tell me they have this whole process where they only need one example and blah blah and they look at the site and determine if it is of value and quality and then they count the ads and everything else they can.

I started the site to offer free codes and not to make money so i offer them to remove EVERY ad, the CTR was 0 lol, and a guy replies saying I am polluting the net with my junk sites and pulls stats off my server from dns check about how many sites i own. I replied to him, asking who made you the internet content police.

So, if you want a link create a catagory not listed. I do see that certain companies with explicit sales pitches. I dont remember the compaines, i wish i did, but i was in shock that basically it was a complet ad talking about there product and they had no problem with that. I wonder if my blogjacking listing is still there.

icewolf
Nov 22nd 2006, 5:37 am
ask them for a link exchange ;):confused:

nevalex
Nov 23rd 2006, 9:47 am
ask them for a link exchange ;):confused:

Yes... :D that one is funny

asking a link from their homepage will be a nice idea... I believe :D