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runnerunner
May 24th 2005, 4:40 pm
does anybody know of a way to start a site that isn't sandboxed? Are there listings of domains/sites that have been around a while that aren't expensive? It's just the domain name i'd be interested, doesn't matter if the site comes with content or not. Anything like this? Also, if you just parked a domain for 6 months, when you started a site after 6 months, would it be sandboxed?
rjhere
May 24th 2005, 4:57 pm
Get a subsite from an isp... make sure its not a subdomain but a folder such as http://www.bigisp.com/users-website ... This will get you in the door.... have a keyword rich landing page with a link to your newly created site.. or put your content on the isp's site.

Parked domains may also work as long as the parked domain is indexed in google for 6 months and not just parked... But if the content of your new site is drastically different than the parked page's content then you may be sandboxed when your new content is indexed.

Expired domains are another story.. Some say that Google starts the sandbox clock when an expired domain is re-regisitererd and indexed.
mjewel
May 24th 2005, 5:04 pm
does anybody know of a way to start a site that isn't sandboxed? Are there listings of domains/sites that have been around a while that aren't expensive? It's just the domain name i'd be interested, doesn't matter if the site comes with content or not. Anything like this? Also, if you just parked a domain for 6 months, when you started a site after 6 months, would it be sandboxed?

I owned a domain name since 1999 and decided to develop it almost 3 months ago. I made the mistake of changing the contact information - this put me in the sandbox. I have over 100 backlinks (PR4, all pages indexed) and rank in the top 5 on yahoo and msn for several keywords yet I cannot be found in the top 1000 results for even non-competitive keywords.

On the other hand, I purchased a developed site that was about a year old and experienced no problems with the sandbox with the ownership transfer.

So, if you buy an undevelped domain name, you are subject to the sandbox with any change to the whois. There was even some mention of this in the google patent. I believe you will not have this problem if you buy an established site with content as long as you keep the theme the same. I did a major redesign of the site I purchased, but kept the theme the same. I do not know what would happen if you completely changed the focus of the site.
runnerunner
May 24th 2005, 6:02 pm
doesn't the whois change when you transfer the domain??
noppid
May 24th 2005, 6:21 pm
I asked my four Y/O.

She says the best way around the sandbox is past the swings. :)
mjewel
May 24th 2005, 7:38 pm
doesn't the whois change when you transfer the domain??

Yes it does. I don't think you can beat the sandbox by purchasing an older domain name that isn't in use - unless you had some deal with the seller to delay transferring ownership. I believe google granfathered some domains from the sandbox as long as there wasn't any change in ownership. I'm not sure google subjects every sector to the sandbox- that's a matter of debate.