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coolsitez
Oct 10th 2006, 6:47 pm
I would like to ask and know how good Azoogle is. Anyone who have succeeded with Azoogle, how much have you made so far? Thanks for sharing it!

xboxundone
Oct 10th 2006, 7:46 pm
There is PLENTY to be made... wish i could find link to the shoemoney PDF but can't at the moment... there are plenty of us lurking around that make as little as a few hundred to some of us that make 100K a month or more!

Shoemoney
Oct 10th 2006, 7:53 pm
www.shoemoney.com/revenue.pdf

I know 5 people neting 150k+ (most doing atleast 70% profit) a month from azoogle off the top of my head

xboxundone
Oct 10th 2006, 7:54 pm
www.shoemoney.com/revenue.pdf

of course you know where to find it. Any chance in getting one of the Shoemoney Shirts :) Woman not needed i have my own :)

int_josh
Oct 10th 2006, 9:19 pm
www.shoemoney.com/revenue.pdf

I know 5 people neting 150k+ (most doing atleast 70% profit) a month from azoogle off the top of my head

how????????????!

aeiouy
Oct 10th 2006, 9:35 pm
how????????????!

I would suspect by delievering leads and converting sales.

coolsitez
Oct 11th 2006, 1:11 am
That's pretty amazing... I will try AzoogleAds now :D

SonicReducer
Oct 11th 2006, 8:14 am
I know 5 people neting 150k+ (most doing atleast 70% profit) a month from azoogle off the top of my head

That sure adds up to a lot of Amazon gift certificates :)

biziboy
Oct 11th 2006, 9:19 am
www.shoemoney.com/revenue.pdf

I know 5 people neting 150k+ (most doing atleast 70% profit) a month from azoogle off the top of my head

you showoff :p

bizzy
Oct 11th 2006, 9:35 am
I surely wish one of those 5 would be kind enough to mentor me. :D

increseo
Oct 11th 2006, 9:40 am
I surely wish one of those 5 would be kind enough to mentor me. :D


They would love to, if you can share 50-60% of what you made (from you very hardwork) with them.

int_josh
Oct 11th 2006, 10:09 am
I would suspect by delievering leads and converting sales.

that doesn't answer my question

capitalistpig
Oct 11th 2006, 10:22 am
that doesn't answer my question

What are you looking for, the Holy Grail?

SonicReducer
Oct 11th 2006, 10:57 am
that doesn't answer my question

It's not rocket science.

If cost of traffic < offer payout = profit

xboxundone
Oct 11th 2006, 11:04 am
the key is Don't spend more than you make

We didn't get where we are at by going around and telling everyone try this offer, this ad, with this color landing page with this text etc... as then we are producing our own competition. Just as I have, I am sure Shoe has helped out many people BUT it isn't a free handout it is more just push those people to get their creative juices going.

As old saying goes give a man a fish he eats for a day teach a man to fish he eats for lifetime..

Shoemoney
Oct 11th 2006, 11:44 am
That sure adds up to a lot of Amazon gift certificates :)

ya why do you think I always have amazon gift certificate giveaways!!

I have pre ordered every xbox 360 game and purchased every book...

If you break the 200k/mo mark they will get you cooler toys like this macbook pro (http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/04/13/azoogleads-rock-my-socks/)

coolsitez
Oct 11th 2006, 11:58 am
My goal is to earn $1,000 per month online. So it's not a big goal, and I hope it's not too difficult. Azoogle should help me achieve my goal.

int_josh
Oct 11th 2006, 2:36 pm
What are you looking for, the Holy Grail?

nah, more like specific examples. More in-depth information.

no one here seems to share anything specific... all vague :rolleyes:

Michael_Goldman
Oct 11th 2006, 4:38 pm
you showoff :p

and bragger :p

aeiouy
Oct 11th 2006, 6:59 pm
nah, more like specific examples. More in-depth information.

no one here seems to share anything specific... all vague :rolleyes:

Actually I see very good advice given over and over again, but people don't want to listen because it involves work.

Nobody is going to hand you a roadmap telling you :

"Sign up with this CPA Network"

"Place this ad with this text with these keywords on this PPC Network".

Voila you will make a mint.

You have to figure that out for yourself. The key is putting the time and effort into learning what works and what does not work. They only way someone could give you something that is guaranteed to work for you is if they know it already works for them. If they give it to you, they took it away from themselves. You don't make money being stupid. Nothing wrong with being helpful and providing information when appropriate, but you clearly want something that nobody is going to give you because it is something everyone who is making money has spent long hard hours learning themselves.

You want a quick e-book fix, and the reality is that does not exist. The way to make money is to work hard and learn. Test and try things out. Most things won't work out, but those that do can be very lucrative.

I am brand spanking new to the CPA game, I am talking less than two months. I have not lost a penny since the day I started and my revenue and profit are climbing at an extremely fast rate. I try things out and then try some more. Some things work out amazingly well, some things are a simple replacement for lighting my money on fire in the chimnea. But you will never find the good ones if you don't sift through the bad ones.

The reality is if it was easy to do, or someone could teach you to do it in a message board post, it would not be lucrative to do any longer. So put in the effort and work. You have to jump in with both feet and say What The Frick. No time for holding back or worrying about tomorrow. The only way you will learn is by failing.

coolsitez
Oct 11th 2006, 7:19 pm
I know there are many people out there thinking there must be some tricks to get money quickly. I didn't mean to ask people about that when I opened this thread, but rather wanted to know their experiences through Azoogle.

There are some good tips, advice, but I really think effort and hard work really matter. I realize that online businesses are not so far apart from the real businesses out there. Common business principles are pretty much the same I think.

capitalistpig
Oct 11th 2006, 7:50 pm
nah, more like specific examples. More in-depth information.

no one here seems to share anything specific... all vague :rolleyes:

Nobody's going to provide specific info. It's just the way it is. Afterall, why would anyone want to give away specific information that has taken some people years to learn and cost thousands (if not millions) of dollars to acquire?

Seriously, the best thing you can do is:

1. Stop looking for an instruction manual that will tell you to do A, B, & C to get $D. There isn't one anywhere.

2. Stop fearing failure. Get out there and put a campaign together, analyze the results and put some serious thought into what worked and why.

3. Once you sucessfully accomplish #2, rinse and repeat.

Now go out and make a million. When you do, maybe you could tell everyone how you did it. :D

coolsitez
Oct 11th 2006, 10:18 pm
Now, isn't that what shoemoney said? :D

But seriously there is no absolute advice and tips for EVERYONE to succeed. I think we all need to find what's best for us.

It's very possible that shoemoney's advice could be very helpful info to some people. (like so many recognize) Yet not to everybody.

capitalistpig
Oct 12th 2006, 4:49 am
Shoemoney's a smart guy. I'm sure he said something similar somewhere. :)

sebastya
Oct 12th 2006, 5:02 am
I applied for Azoogle ads and they said they will review my account and reply within 2 business days.

That was 6 days ago...

Michael_Goldman
Oct 12th 2006, 8:28 am
Nobody is going to hand you a roadmap telling you :

"Sign up with this CPA Network"


actually thats what they all say: "sign up with that CPA network using my ref link and I'll be richer :D"
other than that why would anyone brag about his earnings. :rolleyes:

GeorgeB.
Oct 12th 2006, 7:34 pm
I've actually signed up under someone in CPAEmpire and he taught me a lot. Shared some good info and tips which were directly responsible for my first $500 (profit) I ever made in CPA.

Shoemoney
Oct 13th 2006, 1:27 am
I just tell everyone to do a lot of experiementing... i dont even know my affilaite links if I have one (asside from the ysm i pasted the other day joking)

tahts the whole key is experimenting... trial by fire!

with msn and yahoo and google running all these coupons for accounts that is pretty awesome way to learn... and make a good profit.

GeorgeB.
Oct 13th 2006, 12:07 pm
unfortunately I already havea na ccoutn with all 3 so I can't use the free moola! *cry*

aeiouy
Oct 13th 2006, 5:09 pm
actually thats what they all say: "sign up with that CPA network using my ref link and I'll be richer :D"
other than that why would anyone brag about his earnings. :rolleyes:

That is true. There are some people out there doing it. Some are even outright just ignoring and lying to people to get them to sign up under them. Chickenhole is a good example. He tells people he will help them but doesn't do it, just to keep people to sign up.

Shoe is right about expirementation and testing. You have to live and learn. There is no magic stone tablet with instructions to make it work. Every day I learn something new that helps me make more money, and it just comes from work and testing and expirementation.

feedbuzzard
Oct 13th 2006, 6:48 pm
The trouble for some is they don't have a budget to burn. I'm new at the CPA stuff, been doing adsense for a few years now, and it's a different game. I'm a noob all over again.

So, I am experimenting now with AZ and just about breaking even. I think a big part of this is building the right keyword lists, and writing good ad copy.

Shoemoney
Oct 13th 2006, 7:52 pm
The trouble for some is they don't have a budget to burn. I'm new at the CPA stuff, been doing adsense for a few years now, and it's a different game. I'm a noob all over again.

So, I am experimenting now with AZ and just about breaking even. I think a big part of this is building the right keyword lists, and writing good ad copy.

hmmm with all the free coupons you can get off of ebay for really a few dollars (see here (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&satitle=adwords++coupon&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=68516&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search))

you will find different traffic converts different for affiliates.

int_josh
Oct 13th 2006, 8:14 pm
I just tell everyone to do a lot of experiementing... i dont even know my affilaite links if I have one (asside from the ysm i pasted the other day joking)

tahts the whole key is experimenting... trial by fire!

with msn and yahoo and google running all these coupons for accounts that is pretty awesome way to learn... and make a good profit.

Yeah, that's fun if you have a couple of mil laying in the bank

When you have to eat ramen noodle soup 3 times a day it's not exactly an exciting idea to do "trial by fire"...

W/e really though I'll figure it out. Sucks though that ppl who made it and figured it out keep saying "climb to the top by trying", rather than giving more specific pointers.

Shoemoney
Oct 13th 2006, 8:43 pm
Yeah, that's fun if you have a couple of mil laying in the bank

When you have to eat ramen noodle soup 3 times a day it's not exactly an exciting idea to do "trial by fire"...

W/e really though I'll figure it out. Sucks though that ppl who made it and figured it out keep saying "climb to the top by trying", rather than giving more specific pointers.

I wouldnt know anything about starting with millions in the bank. I had to climb up from about 50k+ in debt. (and was on unemployment)

You come here and in ever post cry when people wont tell you exactly what they are doing and hold your hand.

SO dont act like you know me or my story.

Seiya
Oct 13th 2006, 9:04 pm
ya why do you think I always have amazon gift certificate giveaways!!

I have pre ordered every xbox 360 game and purchased every book...

If you break the 200k/mo mark they will get you cooler toys like this macbook pro (http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/04/13/azoogleads-rock-my-socks/)

Shoe, you know very well what they say about people who ass-u-me.

Props to you, we all know youve worked really hard for your stuff. :)

I whope to make that someday lol, problem right now is i got no money at all to invest in purely CPA stuff... all my earned money goes towards my established sites >< :P I hope im not making the wrong decision by trying to create an authority site over trying out my luck with Azoogle.

I think im going to grab some of those coupons and give it a go.

coolsitez
Oct 14th 2006, 12:30 am
Well, I didn't open this thread just to get tips from other people. I just wanted to know how good Azoogle is from experienced ones. Of course some tips are nice :D

But yea, no need to whine about not getting any hints. I know that there may be some important things we all need to know, but those things are rather basic things.

Ok, so back to the original question of this thread...

How much have you made with Azoogle so far?? :)

coolsitez
Oct 14th 2006, 12:40 am
Hey Shoemoney, the link on your blog about coupon is free?

sebastya
Oct 14th 2006, 12:47 am
I don't understand the difference between ShoeMoney and a regular guy who starts an online business and makes a few sites? What makes you stand out?

Seiya
Oct 14th 2006, 7:04 am
Uhm the fact that he has been doing this for many years and he already knows all the tricks and things you ought to do for maximum success? He has experienced failure many times and as his article says.. you can learn much more from failed attempts at things than from success.... Anyway, your question is equivalent to:

"Whats the difference between me and Zidane kicking a football."

sebastya
Oct 14th 2006, 7:23 am
Uhm the fact that he has been doing this for many years and he already knows all the tricks and things you ought to do for maximum success? He has experienced failure many times and as his article says.. you can learn much more from failed attempts at things than from success.... Anyway, your question is equivalent to:

"Whats the difference between me and Zidane kicking a football."

I wasn't comparing like that; what I meant was, there are many people who share a similar story to ShoeMoney (making millions online, starting from nothing) yet they are not even half as famous as him. I'm just curious as to why that is.

Seiya
Oct 14th 2006, 8:08 am
Hmm ok...
well perhaps the fact that most people who claim they make big money online are liars trying to sell ebooks while shoemoney isnt ;p

LazyD
Oct 14th 2006, 8:50 am
I know this a bit off topic, but where can you find adwords vouchers for accounts that already open, I have a new account, only opened 4 days ago, I heard that I can still get promotional vouchers until your account is open for 14 days.

I bought a voucher pack of Ebay (From the link Shoemoney Provided) and I click the link provided to me (Note, it has some characters on the ned of the URL) and it goes to the adwords login and says that the $50 coupon is only valid for new customers, am I out the whopping $5 dollars I paid or can I still use this?

Seiya
Oct 14th 2006, 10:13 am
Just make a new account.. you can have unlimited accounts with 1 credit card... google doenst do anything about it, it seems.

LazyD
Oct 14th 2006, 10:42 am
I can have a new account with the same credit and contact information?

SonicReducer
Oct 14th 2006, 4:14 pm
Just make a new account.. you can have unlimited accounts with 1 credit card... google doenst do anything about it, it seems.

Um, that is false.

Michael_Goldman
Oct 14th 2006, 6:38 pm
That is true. There are some people out there doing it. Some are even outright just ignoring and lying to people to get them to sign up under them. Chickenhole is a good example. He tells people he will help them but doesn't do it, just to keep people to sign up.

Shoe is right about expirementation and testing. You have to live and learn. There is no magic stone tablet with instructions to make it work. Every day I learn something new that helps me make more money, and it just comes from work and testing and expirementation.

lolol may be shoe can pay me too and i'll tell everyone good things about him :)

jk :D

Seiya
Oct 14th 2006, 8:01 pm
Um, that is false.

Um yeah i have 10 accounts with the same card... really false.

BTw to the red rep giver: sign it please!! and tell me, wtf is a tool exactly? Ty :)

LazyD
Oct 15th 2006, 10:28 am
Seiya,

Im trying to sign up for a 2nd account but for some reason it wont send the confirmation email for a new account, anyone else experiencing any problems since the maintenence yesterday?

Seiya
Oct 15th 2006, 10:53 am
Maybe the email problem is on your end, i opened like my 10th account yesterday.. so i dont know :x

SonicReducer
Oct 15th 2006, 2:13 pm
Direct quote from Google:

"Individuals advertising for themselves or for their own businesses may only have a single AdWords account. "

It may work for a while, but they will catch up to you eventually and then most likely ban you.

marcowitsch
Oct 15th 2006, 2:45 pm
I wouldnt know anything about starting with millions in the bank. I had to climb up from about 50k+ in debt. (and was on unemployment)

You come here and in ever post cry when people wont tell you exactly what they are doing and hold your hand.

SO dont act like you know me or my story.


Ok, i never wanted to tell anyone about this, i dont know shoemoney, also i dont know anybody in this internet business, but i can tell you one thing.

My whole family was in debt, years!! and not only 50K like shoe wrotes in this post, we lost our home and everything you ever can lose, i tried so many things in my whole life that i cant list them all, always trying to make some money, sometimes i succeded, sometimes not, well most times not!


Some day i found internet is a business that its worth to give it a shot, i tried it with ebay, was sucessfull a few months and i was able to pay a lot of the debt we had, i thought i discovered THE only way to make money online, until i read a few months ago an post by some guy called "shoemoney", you all know which post i mean exactly.


This post changed my life, i tried MONTHS to copy his results he had with ringtones but i didnt succeded, only made little profits, the bills on my desk growed to an huge mountain, and i always had the thought of giving up.

Until i thought by myself, why copy him why not give your own ideas a chance? And this was exactly the day i started making profits, today i earn more a month than i ever thought i will, in a few weeks all my bills are paid and i can start a whole new life!


I dont say that it was shoemoney alone that brought me success, it was me alone, but he gave me the idea of doing other things like cpa combined with pcc, sites with subscription member areas and adsense and whatever, all i can say to all you other guys out there that always ask how to have success, read his posts, read what he wrotes OVER MONTHS, combine the results and you have an good way to start, an very good way.

And dont do only ringtones, dont do only that what shoemoney does, do a lot of other things that add up to an neach amount of profit, that is not only an nice income it gives you more safety in this business...Do your own stuff dont try to copy the success of someone else exactly, you will fail.

I lost a LOT of money in a phase of my life where i needed every damn cent i earned, for paying my debt always in fear that i lose my bankaccount or my internet trough this damn debt, but i continued and succeded at last. And now that i know "the secret" of internet marketing, im so sure me and my whole family will have a bright future and we will be able again to have things most other people think are naturally, as example making a holiday somewhere or having food in your refrigerator at any time.

Do all things you can, dont rely on just PPC, do exactly with what you had success and if its only making $2 out of $1... What i learned now, if you found a niche were you can double your spending and even if its only $1, you can do the exact same thing over and over again until you have $10k to spend...

If you only read forums and wait for someone to tell you how you have to do something to have success, you will fail! For sure.

Ah forget that lol, and i didnt even emailed the guy called "shoemoney" once, only readed his post and then trained myself all alone what i know, thats why im saying i did it on my own, hell i didnt even knowed html or php a year ago, my html i know i learned since ive done ebay descriptions for my shop, and the php i know ive learned after reading shoemoneys post and experimented a bit with wordpress. You all are alone responsible what you eat, if its noudlesoup 3 times a day or caviar, what you expect from other people? That they tell you what made them rich or what? The infos shoemoney handed out are worth a TON of gold... you just have to combine the posts he made over a few months, im sure he didnt even know how much info he really handed out ;o)

WatchMeFly
Oct 16th 2006, 1:15 am
Thanks for the wise words marcowitsch.

Really appreciate it!

sebastya
Oct 16th 2006, 3:45 am
Do your own stuff dont try to copy the success of someone else exactly, you will fail.

now that's what I'm talking about.

making sites like myspace resources, youtube clones..no offence but you guys will never make it big with that mentality.

Shoemoney
Oct 16th 2006, 7:03 am
Dude that is awesome. Do you care if I quote some of this for a blog post ?


Rock on.

Ok, i never wanted to tell anyone about this, i dont know shoemoney, also i dont know anybody in this internet business, but i can tell you one thing.

My whole family was in debt, years!! and not only 50K like shoe wrotes in this post, we lost our home and everything you ever can lose, i tried so many things in my whole life that i cant list them all, always trying to make some money, sometimes i succeded, sometimes not, well most times not!


Some day i found internet is a business that its worth to give it a shot, i tried it with ebay, was sucessfull a few months and i was able to pay a lot of the debt we had, i thought i discovered THE only way to make money online, until i read a few months ago an post by some guy called "shoemoney", you all know which post i mean exactly.


This post changed my life, i tried MONTHS to copy his results he had with ringtones but i didnt succeded, only made little profits, the bills on my desk growed to an huge mountain, and i always had the thought of giving up.

Until i thought by myself, why copy him why not give your own ideas a chance? And this was exactly the day i started making profits, today i earn more a month than i ever thought i will, in a few weeks all my bills are paid and i can start a whole new life!


I dont say that it was shoemoney alone that brought me success, it was me alone, but he gave me the idea of doing other things like cpa combined with pcc, sites with subscription member areas and adsense and whatever, all i can say to all you other guys out there that always ask how to have success, read his posts, read what he wrotes OVER MONTHS, combine the results and you have an good way to start, an very good way.

And dont do only ringtones, dont do only that what shoemoney does, do a lot of other things that add up to an neach amount of profit, that is not only an nice income it gives you more safety in this business...Do your own stuff dont try to copy the success of someone else exactly, you will fail.

I lost a LOT of money in a phase of my life where i needed every damn cent i earned, for paying my debt always in fear that i lose my bankaccount or my internet trough this damn debt, but i continued and succeded at last. And now that i know "the secret" of internet marketing, im so sure me and my whole family will have a bright future and we will be able again to have things most other people think are naturally, as example making a holiday somewhere or having food in your refrigerator at any time.

Do all things you can, dont rely on just PPC, do exactly with what you had success and if its only making $2 out of $1... What i learned now, if you found a niche were you can double your spending and even if its only $1, you can do the exact same thing over and over again until you have $10k to spend...

If you only read forums and wait for someone to tell you how you have to do something to have success, you will fail! For sure.

marcowitsch
Oct 16th 2006, 7:31 am
No you can post it that's ok, normally i didn't wanted to make it public but i read across this forum that you got dissed all the time for not sharing exactly what you do to make money and just wanted to say thanks for the post you've made, since its not neccessary to tell people ALL your secrets and i can not!! understand how some people can be such idiots and blame you, they should start make their own stuff and try, and that was what i wanted to let the others know, you can do it but it takes a lot of hard work, i worked the last 6 months now like 15 hours a day, had to speak with my bank account manager countless times, only worked, sleeped and started again.

If you are willing to do that, you will not have to eat noodlesoup 3 times a day anymore.

Ok lets keep it short, yes you can make a post of it if you want, lol =)

coolsitez
Oct 16th 2006, 10:53 am
Thanks for the post. It should encourage others I am sure. I like that you said about being original. I agree to that.

I think I will have to re-read again the shoemoney's post on adsense. Does he have other posts like that? :D

solid7
Oct 19th 2006, 7:55 pm
They would love to, if you can share 50-60% of what you made (from you very hardwork) with them.

I'm willing to accept that offer. Somebody PM me...

Seriously. I'm already on 80+ hour weeks, and self-learning is getting very hard for me.

jeremy860
Oct 20th 2006, 12:25 am
I'm willing to accept that offer. Somebody PM me...

Seriously. I'm already on 80+ hour weeks, and self-learning is getting very hard for me.

I second this. My family was in bed like 3 hours ago, yet i'm still up trying to learn affiliate marketing. Same thing every night of the week.

fryman
Oct 20th 2006, 12:29 am
And that, my friend, is the difference between success and failure. People like that int_josh tard that want everything handed out in a silver platter never succeed. People like you do. I was in the same boat and believe me, if you work hard you will get there.

smindsrt
Oct 20th 2006, 3:59 am
And that, my friend, is the difference between success and failure. People like that int_josh tard that want everything handed out in a silver platter never succeed. People like you do. I was in the same boat and believe me, if you work hard you will get there.

Fry is right... those of us that make a decent living on the net did so by putting in 15+++ hour days and working hard. The first year or two all I did was read articles and forum and stay up late to work.

coolsitez
Oct 20th 2006, 6:49 am
Same here. I spent so much time - mainly to get information by reading articles, forums, etc.

I kept hoping I would do better one day, and it can be very frustrating during that time because you aren't making money at all yet. Just spending time and putting effort for - nothing but hopefully at least for a while.

I started to make some money just about a month ago, nothing significant yet, but I am glad that I went trhough hours of learning SEO and stuff. I happened to get to know a guy who taught me quite a bit about SEO, and I don't know what I would be doing without his help and the knowledge I have now.

Affiliate programs are still new to me, so I will be experimenting again, but I know I can figure things out! There is always a way for anything.

int_josh
Oct 20th 2006, 8:40 am
And that, my friend, is the difference between success and failure. People like that int_josh tard that want everything handed out in a silver platter never succeed. People like you do. I was in the same boat and believe me, if you work hard you will get there.

u better watch who you're calling a tard ;)

I'm gonna make those words eat you soon enough :cool:

You seem to fail to differentiate between having everything on silver platter and having 100% of information to tackle the problem. Good for me.

Also, those who work 24/7 a day and still aren't making money - the quality of information will always beat the quantity of information. And focused determination on a particular project will always beat broad focus on 10 projects.

GeorgeB.
Oct 20th 2006, 10:56 am
Fry is right... those of us that make a decent living on the net did so by putting in 15+++ hour days and working hard. The first year or two all I did was read articles and forum and stay up late to work.Yeah and to add on to that not only did I put in my 80 to 100+ hours every week between my day job and working online reading forums and applying what I learned I STILL have a day job. I could technically quit my day job today if I wanted to but I have a family to support so I'm wating till September next year (unless my earnings get really ridiculous :D) to quit or until I have at least well over 7 figures in the bank. And frankly, I'm greedy. Dual incomes are awesome!

Now that I've gotten to the point where I sort of know what I'm doing I do my normal 40 work week but still put in at least an extra 20. The satisfaction of being able to tell my wife she never has to work another day in her life is my motivation along with knowing my kids will be able to pick any college they want to and not worry about tuition.

Good things like this aren't just handed to you unless you win the lottery and even then you have to be smart about what you do with the money or you can be poor again. Rich people are rich because they're smart and they work hard to get to the point where they don't have to work hard.

Seiya
Oct 21st 2006, 1:49 pm
Rich people are rich because they're smart and they work hard to get to the point where they don't have to work hard.

Dont forget the rich people who are rich just because their parents gave them everything :P

RussReynolds
Oct 22nd 2006, 7:41 am
This is a great thread guys. Today is my first day reading this forum and it is great! I think that the common theme here is that if you treat this business like a business and work long and hard enough you will be successful. Where else can you start a business from the ground up for next to nothing and scale it to the point that you can quit your day job and not have to worry about money again? This is the epitome of the American (or Canadian :) ) dream!

I believe if you work hard and keep focused, the money will follow. Too many people won't focus, they jump from one 'opportunity' to the next.

Claymation
Oct 22nd 2006, 11:03 am
I've been using Azoogle strictly with Banner Ad units on various sites and many forums I own.
Have experimented with all kinds of different offers and have practically nothing to show for it.
Stats daily such as 5,000 impressions- 15 clicks- ZERO money from those clicks.
Kind of sours me on the whole CPA concept, to be honest.
I don't even see any success stories in this thread, other than Shoe telling us he "knows people" making 15 grand a month with it.
The navigation on their site is abysmal, for starters.
I don't need gifts- I need income.
Give me more income and I'll buy my own gifts for site members, thank you.

Certainly, Shoe and others must be churning out those "Creatives" by creating multiple web pages and using SEO tools to get them found by search engines?
Or is it a combination of factors?
Are you willing to share any of that Shoemoney?

As I stated above- Azoogles website looks as though it was made by amateurs in the web building business, and offers almost nothing to explain what a webmaster can do to increase earnings.

aeiouy
Oct 22nd 2006, 12:03 pm
Claymation,

Have you talked to your account rep. They are often very helpful when you talk to them, and they seemingly love to talk on the phone so give yours a call and ask for some assistance.

Lots of people make money with Azoogle in a variety of ways. Perhaps the offers were not a good match to your site, perhaps the creatives you selected were not right placement or anything else.

There are so many factors to go with it, that it is hard to just say it is all Azoogle's fault. Like I said, your best bet is to talk to your account manager and ask for some assistance.

tstaut
Oct 22nd 2006, 1:46 pm
I don't even see any success stories in this thread, other than Shoe telling us he "knows people" making 15 grand a month with it.


OK here's a success story - I made over $700 net daily profit on both Friday and Saturday, and averaged over $500 profit/day for the week. All with Azoogle.

Now... get to learning. :)

int_josh
Oct 22nd 2006, 2:50 pm
OK here's a success story - I made over $700 net daily profit on both Friday and Saturday, and averaged over $500 profit/day for the week. All with Azoogle.

Now... get to learning. :)

All paid search traffic?

xboxundone
Oct 22nd 2006, 2:53 pm
All paid search traffic?

paid search or natural still a great accomplishment! :)

Shoemoney
Oct 22nd 2006, 3:08 pm
I wasn't comparing like that; what I meant was, there are many people who share a similar story to ShoeMoney (making millions online, starting from nothing) yet they are not even half as famous as him. I'm just curious as to why that is.

i dunno about the famous part but I have not missed a public event like a conference to meet tons of people for a long time....

also I do a radio show and a blog to help people

jeremy860
Oct 22nd 2006, 3:18 pm
also I do a radio show and a blog to help people

in which I hold very close to my heart btw.

Someday I plan to be at one of those conferences just so I can shake your hand and thank you for your blog and show.


Dont worry i'm not a stalker LOL

tstaut
Oct 22nd 2006, 3:36 pm
All paid search traffic?


98% Paid. I started with this offer a couple weeks ago making about $30/day, dumped all profits back into adwords testing til it all came together. Now spending about $250/day on adwords, the numbers I posted above though were profit, with the $250 already taken out. Still optimizing, still tweaking... making about $100/day average more than I was last week on the same spend.

Much of what I learned was from reading/listening to Shoemoney's advice and then putting my own thinking and spin on it.

Why's he famous? Because he can help you get rich if you pay attention and think for yourself...

jeremy860
Oct 22nd 2006, 3:46 pm
98% Paid. I started with this offer a couple weeks ago making about $30/day, dumped all profits back into adwords testing til it all came together. Now spending about $250/day on adwords, the numbers I posted above though were profit, with the $250 already taken out. Still optimizing, still tweaking... making about $100/day average more than I was last week on the same spend.

Much of what I learned was from reading/listening to Shoemoney's advice and then putting my own thinking and spin on it.

Why's he famous? Because he can help you get rich if you pay attention and think for yourself...


thats amazing and really inspiring. I hope to get there or even close within 1 month atleast...

I got 2 leads today which is crap , but it inspired me to keep going and trying.

int_josh
Oct 22nd 2006, 9:38 pm
98% Paid. I started with this offer a couple weeks ago making about $30/day, dumped all profits back into adwords testing til it all came together. Now spending about $250/day on adwords, the numbers I posted above though were profit, with the $250 already taken out. Still optimizing, still tweaking... making about $100/day average more than I was last week on the same spend.

Much of what I learned was from reading/listening to Shoemoney's advice and then putting my own thinking and spin on it.

Why's he famous? Because he can help you get rich if you pay attention and think for yourself...

nice man
keep up the good work

Free Stuff
Oct 22nd 2006, 11:41 pm
www.shoemoney.com/revenue.pdf

I know 5 people neting 150k+ (most doing atleast 70% profit) a month from azoogle off the top of my head

Azoogle says, they pay about 3mln per month to publishers. So 5x150K is $850K.

So those 5 guys make almost 1/3 of that 3mln!

marcowitsch
Oct 23rd 2006, 8:56 am
you mean because its noted on the referal banner thats almost over an year old? ;o) My am told me there are a few guys making 400K/month, why should all people lie?

waldo
Oct 24th 2006, 3:58 pm
Grand Total 246791 19522 $132836.72 for the year wish it was a month but not to bad

BusinessEmpire
Oct 24th 2006, 8:14 pm
Clay, you'll be ok. Just don't give up. Just remember to test various campaigns and see what works for you.

pamon
Oct 24th 2006, 10:52 pm
waldoo... nice earnings... $132k for the year? how much of that is net profits after advertising/adwords/etc... great job....

waldo
Oct 25th 2006, 3:33 am
waldoo... nice earnings... $132k for the year? how much of that is net profits after advertising/adwords/etc... great job....

i dont advertise
my cost this year were about 3k total that includes server cost

ajeetroy
Oct 25th 2006, 5:55 am
Hi,

I wish I was able to make even $200-$500 per month. I have just been aprroved by azoogle. My affiliate manager is very helpful. I am just new to this business. I would love to get help from people around.

Thanks
Ajeet

Claymation
Oct 25th 2006, 7:21 pm
Claymation,

Have you talked to your account rep. They are often very helpful when you talk to them, and they seemingly love to talk on the phone so give yours a call and ask for some assistance.

I did email Azoogle 2 days ago just to ask what the payment period is, etc.
No response.
Nice program there.
The site needs some major tweaking so we can readily find this info.

The past few weeks got 275 clicks on the banners and not a single follow-through to the money. WTF?
Getting around 50k uniques a month on my main site.


There must be better ways to utilize this program than banner ads, right?
Any ideas Shoe?

MattEvers
Oct 25th 2006, 7:49 pm
Azoogle says, they pay about 3mln per month to publishers. So 5x150K is $850K.


I would bet that is a low figure. That's what a banner I saw said the end of last year. The CPA world has blown up since then. I would say closer to double that figure is being paid out monthly. But what do I know? :)

aeiouy
Oct 25th 2006, 9:42 pm
I did email Azoogle 2 days ago just to ask what the payment period is, etc.

They pay net 15, and I believe there is a $50.00 minimum for payout.

So for October, you will get paid on November 15th.

free
Oct 25th 2006, 10:52 pm
hey Shoemoney any chance of getting one of those shirts in your avatar along with the girl :D OK OK, it's not really the shirt I want to be honest. Thanks for doing the radio show and sharing your knowledge.

Claymation
Oct 26th 2006, 4:12 pm
I received an email stating that Azoogle 2.0 is coming out within days.
So apparently they are revamping the whole website.
Glad to hear it!

junjun
Oct 27th 2006, 11:54 am
I received an email stating that Azoogle 2.0 is coming out within days.
So apparently they are revamping the whole website.
Glad to hear it!
2.0 appeared yesterday for me, everyone else as well?

xboxundone
Oct 27th 2006, 12:25 pm
They pay net 15, and I believe there is a $50.00 minimum for payout.

So for October, you will get paid on November 15th.


If you start earning enough they will pay you more often as you can get paid 15 days after.... meaning paid on 30th for 1-15 and paid on following 15th for 16-30th.

aeiouy
Oct 27th 2006, 8:19 pm
I wonder how much that is..... I could use the cash flow. :)

Zygoot
Oct 28th 2006, 2:48 am
I wonder how much that is..... I could use the cash flow. :)

I asked this to my affiliate manager a few weeks ago and he said you need to make $100k a month to get biweekly payouts :p

garland99
Oct 28th 2006, 6:06 am
It depends on your Affiliate Manager, I was able to get biweekly payments after hitting 10k a month. Im sure if you hit 50k you'll be able to get payments every week.

SonicReducer
Oct 28th 2006, 1:14 pm
As long as the Azoogle payment keeps coming before the Google bill every month I am happy :eek:

andreww
Oct 28th 2006, 3:58 pm
Shoe,
you look real 'corporate' in that shirt and slacks.
:)

something interesting. i noticed the top left header says 'onlinesucess'

sucess?
maybe they should hire me as a copyeditor.



www.shoemoney.com/revenue.pdf

I know 5 people neting 150k+ (most doing atleast 70% profit) a month from azoogle off the top of my head

Anteros
Oct 28th 2006, 4:43 pm
Very inspiring Thread. I hope my work starts giving profit some time in the near future. I've been working hard and researching more than 12 hours a day for the last 2 months and I've made almost nothing, but I´m not giving up, each day I get more convinced that with creativity and serious work you can make enough to pay the bills and relax every now and then.

sknydave
Oct 30th 2006, 10:16 pm
People like Shoemoney are a godsend in this industry. Please don't let the dumbasses turn you away from the great help you provide, Shoe!

coolsitez
Oct 31st 2006, 3:00 pm
It seems that PPC advertising is the main marketing method for affiliate programs?

MrBounce
Oct 31st 2006, 6:48 pm
newbie question. isnt azoogle quite like adsense? so you are sending adwords traffic to a page with azoogle ads and making a profit on that?

aeiouy
Oct 31st 2006, 6:51 pm
Azoogle has cost-per-action offers. So it is not like adsense. People actually need to buy something or fill out a form or complete some kind of action for you to get a payout.

solid7
Oct 31st 2006, 7:32 pm
How does one search the Azoogle network, to find out if they have ads that are viable for one's site?

nmwando
Nov 2nd 2006, 8:02 am
where can i find a collection of shoemoney posts on pdf format. :)

coolsitez
Nov 27th 2006, 9:59 pm
Has anyone affected earnings after azoogle 2.0?

RussReynolds
Nov 28th 2006, 4:27 am
There was a post where some were complaining that since the new platform their sales went down. I could not find it, but maybe do a search?

phjohnso
Nov 28th 2006, 5:40 am
The most I made with azoogle in one month was $5,000. And that was from advertising some dateing and hdtv giveaway ads on Craigslist. NOW WAIT! The month after that Azoogle cancelled my account telling me that Advertising on CL was against their TOS. I found that strange because I had already had 5 sub-affiliates making money and was always very open with my sales rep about CL advertising and was never told it was not allowed.

Well I guess that CL must have gotten in touch with the owner over there and my account was cancelled. Then I was told to re-apply for a new account which I did and the account was opened right away.

All in all that whole experience kind of soured me from using them at the moment...

Sincerely

pj

solid7
Nov 28th 2006, 5:50 am
phjohnso - do you have a transcript of this exchange?

Sounds like a legal matter worth pressing. If what you are saying is true, then you sold a substantial amount of goods, and were basically cheated out of a commission. You can get a lot of low-level legal services, and still make SOME money off of that $5K.

Of course, if you're not telling the whole story, nevermind...

phjohnso
Nov 28th 2006, 5:51 am
What's the point of that? I don't need to get banned for life.

solid7
Nov 28th 2006, 6:04 am
What's the point of that? I don't need to get banned for life.

Well, in all fairness, you just said this:


All in all that whole experience kind of soured me from using them at the moment...


I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on this, which may be a stretch. But if things are as you say they are, I'd rather risk a ban and ask for what I earned, than take the chance of it ever happening again. What happens the next time when it's $10K? Or after that, when its $15K?

phjohnso
Nov 28th 2006, 2:39 pm
Just to clarify - I did get paid - the account was cancelled after payment was made and the i was allowed to start a new account again.

Well, in all fairness, you just said this:





I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on this, which may be a stretch. But if things are as you say they are, I'd rather risk a ban and ask for what I earned, than take the chance of it ever happening again. What happens the next time when it's $10K? Or after that, when its $15K?

solid7
Nov 28th 2006, 4:34 pm
:D :D :D

I didn't get that impression. Sorry about that, then. No need to push the matter, is there? :D

PiecesMedia
Nov 28th 2006, 6:22 pm
I've been using Azoogle for about a year now, and i think v 2.0 is great. Being able to break down the data by offers/dates/subid's is the best feature. I only wish all the other networks can follow this.

guna
Nov 29th 2006, 1:41 am
Just signed up with azoogle..

Find lot of script errors and other errors. How can I integrate it with my sites? Is anyone of you finding any problems? Also can you give me some sites which run azoogle ads. I have seen one in shoemoney.com but IMO I dont think any1 will click on those links..

Any help is appreciated

PiecesMedia
Nov 29th 2006, 2:26 am
Try using the standard browsers (IE 6-7, Firefox 1.5) to avoid script errors

coolsitez
Jan 16th 2007, 6:23 pm
Well, after some months pased. And here is the result.

Azoogle - few bux

vs.

Adsense - $380

no luck for me. Right now, I am more concentrating on adsense anyway. But I hope I can do well with azoogle.