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anthonycea
Jun 30th 2004, 8:55 pm
MSN is moving ahead with the search engine, they are going to use their own results later this year, at this time they are giving the site a new look, but will continue to use Yahoo results.

The latest is in the article below.

http://news.com.com/MSN+launches+revamped+search+engine/2100-1032_3-5254083.html?tag=html.alert

l0cke
Jun 30th 2004, 10:44 pm
Best of luck to MS.. Competition is good.

jfontestad
Jul 1st 2004, 7:05 am
i hope that they use their results soon.... they crawled 200,000 of my pages in may, so that will hopefully be a boost in traffic, and it still crawls main category pages on my site on the regular bases, i have no traffic from yahoo, so let's go MSN....

schlottke
Jul 1st 2004, 10:10 am
MSN sends me little traffic right now- even though I'm top 5 for all of my terms.. they will need to really get a move on.

anthonycea
Jul 1st 2004, 7:55 pm
http://techpreview.search.msn.com/


Softie/M$/Bill Gates/Uncle Bill wants your help in developing the new M$ search engine, see the link above and help your favorite Uncle.

The results right now are not good, but lets hope for the best down the road.

see this article also

http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3375921

Nitin M
Jul 1st 2004, 8:37 pm
It's actually live on MSN.

Didn't treat me right - none of my sites/keywords that perform well on google or yahoo are performing on MSN. :(

Will have to research in the coming weeks and figure out why not!

hulkster
Jul 2nd 2004, 10:51 pm
At least for me, http://techpreview.search.msn.com/ craps out under Netscape, but works fine under IE - I especially like the #1 result for the longest car (http://www.komar.org/car/longest_car/) as I see they are displaying "funky" characters in title tags. I also see that they have finally addressed the stripping of the trailing "/" from URL's with pathname components - no more redirects reported by your web server! ;-)

alek

schlottke
Jul 3rd 2004, 8:32 am
I've used it - love how Great MS thinks my site is right now.. lo.

schlottke
Jul 3rd 2004, 8:36 am
Even better is the tech preview for the search wrestling shoes

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=wrestling+shoes&FORM=SMCRT

Pages 1,2,3 are 80% JRwrestling right now..

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=wrestling+headgear&FORM=SMCRT

100% JRWrestling..

anthonycea
Jul 5th 2004, 12:25 pm
SB, they should just rename the SE to the Snitch Baby Search Engine, we only pull results from JR Wrestling. More useful for Snitch Baby everyday. :eek:

Shit those results are worse than the traffic redirection study I published on Zeezo and Google's bias toward them.

I think I am going to start a CT site on "Snitch Baby and Softie", could be the best thing since popcorn was invented. :cool:

payoutwindow
Jul 5th 2004, 2:46 pm
Yeah the preview is good .. and I am fairly happy with the results too.

Go M$!!

schlottke
Jul 5th 2004, 5:01 pm
AC,

The reason they've removed my competition from their engine is because they already spend more in advertising in one month than I do in 10 years. Might as well make the people who will pay spend the money ;)

anthonycea
Jul 5th 2004, 6:02 pm
Well here is another article of interest on the M$ search engine and how it affects Yahoo and Ask.com

Their stocks were sold off a few points when this story broke.

http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news.cfm?newsID=258077

anthonycea
Jul 18th 2004, 10:17 am
M$ buys search software firm, read all about it in this very good story.

http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news.cfm?newsID=260151

anthonycea
Jul 29th 2004, 4:50 pm
Softie is going to introduce a version of hard drive search before Longhorn is released, they claim it will be able to search Email and all local files.

Very interesting development as hard drive search is a hot area right now, the best software I have seen so far for hard drive search is listed below.

www.diskmeta.com it is a free download and can be used offline to search your hard drive, it gives search results back from your hard drive files like a search result page.

The story on the M$ version of the above is in the following link

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5289463.html?tag=zdnn.alert

skattabrain
Jul 31st 2004, 1:13 pm
i recieved an email from msn to my hotmail account saying the new search is live... is it? if it is, they just swapped out the results!

please tell me this - http://techpreview.search.msn.com/ isn't live yet.

anthonycea
Jul 31st 2004, 1:24 pm
They must mean on MSNsearch, not the test site you list, that was released last month. :eek:

skattabrain
Jul 31st 2004, 2:39 pm
i didn't understand you anthonycea... the techpreview site i listed has not been released yet... correct? meaning on MSN.com

anthonycea
Jul 31st 2004, 2:54 pm
By what your post said they did add the new stuff to MSNsearch, by what your link says they DID NOT DO IT YET.

They are still using Yahoo results, do a search on Yahoo and the same search on MSN, that will tell you the story. :D

skattabrain
Aug 1st 2004, 8:49 pm
i just wanted to make sure i understand that the "new" search that msn is boasting isn't the "new search that will be better than google to be released in the future" search they have been boasting.

anthonycea
Aug 1st 2004, 8:57 pm
Do you want it to be better than Google? A MSN Executive mentioned that you could not even imagine what they have in store.

What this means is when convergence of Digital TV and the Internet happen then search will be more like looking at a movie advertisement verses search result pages.

So a lot of changes are coming in the medium itself (the internet), so search will have to change when more folks are hooked up to broadband (digital TV/Internet).

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5294113.html?tag=zdnn.alert

skattabrain
Aug 2nd 2004, 7:06 am
Do you want it to be better than Google? A MSN Executive mentioned that you could not even imagine what they have in store.
yes i do, it's all about checks and balances... google is too far and away above the rest for my taste.

T0PS3O
Aug 2nd 2004, 7:19 am
So a lot of changes are coming in the medium itself (the internet), so search will have to change when more folks are hooked up to broadband (digital TV/Internet).

I believe I read that the whole internet technology is pretty outdated already, that http is far from that needed to power future internet and communication developments. The IP address sytem apparently is inadequate too to facilitate for the vast amount of users and providers.

I wonder where things are heading...

anthonycea
Aug 2nd 2004, 8:08 am
TOP30 it has been said that we have broadband everywhere right now, do you know what it is called? TELEVISION**##$$$***


We have a thread here that has some articles in it that will give all more insight into what is going to happen.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1322

M$ is developing the OS for delivery of Digital TV/Internet right now, so fire up your digital video studio and get a jump start on all of the other webmasters.

anthonycea
Aug 2nd 2004, 9:28 pm
M$ spider is talked about and how fast they built the search index in the following article, you may have to register to read it, but it is well worth it.

http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid={4775B685-D7F9-47B9-AA29-0E534A2BD8D8}&siteid=mktw&dist=nbk

Have fun :cool:

SEbasic
Aug 3rd 2004, 10:00 am
M$ is developing the OS for delivery of Digital TV/Internet right now, so fire up your digital video studio and get a jump start on all of the other webmasters.
Reply With Quote

Have you checked out Windows media edition (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.mspx) yet?

When I was checking the SPEC's for my new machine, I saw that this version of the windows OS is installed.

I checked it out and it looks pretty cool.

I use the PC for all my music/DVD stuff at the moment... Looks like it will be doing the TV and Radio too now ; )

There is a demo of it on the MS site... Check it out - it looks good.

skattabrain
Aug 3rd 2004, 10:15 am
what new machine would this be?

anthonycea
Aug 3rd 2004, 10:17 am
It is the same M$, if they control the OS, they sell all of the software.

So if they create the new multimedia OS (MS Digital Television/Internet) then your PC will be the Digital Video/Webmastering studio using their software to produce content.

SOS, different day SE.........It is about control of the marketplace now, is it not?

As the market changes so do search functions, software development and content creation. :cool:

SEbasic
Aug 4th 2004, 2:32 am
what new machine would this be?
3.2Ghz 1meg L2 Cache, 800Mhz FSB
1024Mb Ram (DDR2)
19" tft
128meg Graphics
TV/radio Tuner (?!?!)
250Gb HDD
5.1 sound
DVD-+RW x2

:)