Mass link spamming no longer a good option?

[Dave Gold]

I was all excited when I wrote my link spammer back in July and started spamming thousands of blogs and forums every day, but I think it backfired as those sites got banned a lot quicker than normal. Has anyone had any success targeting thousands of links? I'm thinking I need to be more selective in the sites I spam..possibly a PR filter.

[infin8]

Maybe you got banned because people reported you for spamming. Just a thought.

[MattUK]

I don't think there was ever a time when 'karma' was so apt

[gr8liverpoolfan]

I don't think there was ever a time when 'karma' was so apt

You have been talking of Karma quite a lot these days , Matt:)
And, David spamming ain't the best idea to make yourself popular for the right reasons;)

[DidierE]

Mass link spamming no longer a good option?

Has it ever been good?
NO WAY!!!

Didier

[Worldwid]

Has it ever been good?
NO WAY!!!

Didier

You can make thousands a week link spamming sites on parasite hosts. Not only is your statement wrong, it is still useful today depending on what your doing.

[Worldwid]

I was all excited when I wrote my link spammer back in July and started spamming thousands of blogs and forums every day, but I think it backfired as those sites got banned a lot quicker than normal. Has anyone had any success targeting thousands of links? I'm thinking I need to be more selective in the sites I spam..possibly a PR filter.

Link spamming will never / and should not be thought of as a long term marketing strategy. You don't want to link spam a domain on one of your servers that you are paying for.

Link spamming is still VERY effective for MSN and yahoo, and if you can get a parasite host on a site with 'authority', it is also still effective on google for about 2 weeks at the most.

[DidierE]

You can make thousands a week link spamming sites on parasite hosts. Not only is your statement wrong, it is still useful today depending on what your doing.

I was saying that spamming in general is bad.
Most webmasters get spammed daily (forum spamming, blog spamming, email spamming, whatever...) by people like yourself.
So has it ever been good?

NO WAY!!

Didier

[dastuff]

I don't think there was ever a time when 'karma' was so apt
lmao :cool:

[peschong]

People Do That Shit To My Blog All The Time Damnit!

[peschong]

by the way "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" - Soup Nazi

[MattUK]

You have been talking of Karma quite a lot these days , Matt:)
And, David spamming ain't the best idea to make yourself popular for the right reasons;)
Yeah, I stubbed my toe when kicking my cat ;)
That's was a joke for all the animal lovers out there :o

[LennyP]

People that spam make me sick. Don't you realize that by doing so you are scum? How about coming up with a real marketing stratgey instead of being a parasite.

[casperl]

People that spam make me sick. Don't you realize that by doing so you are scum? How about coming up with a real marketing stratgey instead of being a parasite.

I agree except the "scum" sentence. It is a little bit much for me.

It is interesting to see someone opening a thread and saying, "hey i am doing spam.. What is the problem?" :) The problem is spamming..

[Dustin07]

I agree except the "scum" sentence. It is a little bit much for me.

Scum is an understatement!

Hell, even physically visiting a site and registering just to post a link is one thing, but to create and use an active link spamming software!!

GTH!

[hadeedg]

its a good option if you want to get out there :)

Hi everyone

[Dustin07]

you must not own or operate a forum or blog.

[Dave Gold]

Like I am gonna go back to the whitehat grind..give me a break.

The thing is the internet is a waste of time anyways...there are too many worthless websites so I am doing y'all a favor by my link spamming. Thank me later.

[Kaabi]

Mass link spamming was never a good option.

[dito199]

2 words of wishful advice: dont spam

There is the ethical blackhat, and there is the ugly blackhat. Guess where spamming falls under?

[MattUK]

2 words of wishful advice: dont spam

There is the ethical blackhat, and there is the ugly blackhat. Guess where spamming falls under?
Exactly! I personally don't have a problem with people spamming Google (unless it's in my SERPs when I'll go and report them) but if they start spamming my sites then I'll email everyone possible - their host, Google, domain registrar and ISP

[tiboh]

People that spam make me sick. Don't you realize that by doing so you are scum? How about coming up with a real marketing stratgey instead of being a parasite.

and to think he even posted what he's doing! I can't believe that you're so proud of that...

[Dustin07]

Like I am gonna go back to the whitehat grind..give me a break.

The thing is the internet is a waste of time anyways...there are too many worthless websites so I am doing y'all a favor by my link spamming. Thank me later.

dude... tell that to any of the millions of people who make their living from the internet. You just lack creativity or work ethic... or possibly both.

[MattUK]

Like I am gonna go back to the whitehat grind..give me a break.

The thing is the internet is a waste of time anyways...there are too many worthless websites so I am doing y'all a favor by my link spamming. Thank me later.

LOL, you don't even seem to be able to make black-hat work for you either :D
I hear McDonalds is hiring :p

[Dave Gold]

LOL, you don't even seem to be able to make black-hat work for you either :D
I hear McDonalds is hiring :p

Sorry bro I am very successful with blackhat. Its funny to see all the whitehats here struggling while the blackhat forums are all people buying Porsches...just something to think about.

[Dave Gold]

Exactly! I personally don't have a problem with people spamming Google (unless it's in my SERPs when I'll go and report them) but if they start spamming my sites then I'll email everyone possible - their host, Google, domain registrar and ISP

So that was you? :D

[MattUK]

Sorry bro I am very successful with blackhat. Its funny to see all the whitehats here struggling while the blackhat forums are all people buying Porsches...just something to think about.
So if you're driving a Porche how come you're over here asking questions? :p

[DidierE]

Sorry bro I am very successful with blackhat. Its funny to see all the whitehats here struggling while the blackhat forums are all people buying Porsches...just something to think about.

Haha you spammers are so funny
So we should start spamming people so we can all drive a porsche right?
No thanks, i rather stay away from these techniques.
Besides i drive a BMW and never spammed in my life :p

Didier

[Kaudo]

Like I am gonna go back to the whitehat grind..give me a break.

The thing is the internet is a waste of time anyways...there are too many worthless websites so I am doing y'all a favor by my link spamming. Thank me later.

You haven´t spammed a long time have you?

[Dustin07]

Sorry bro I am very successful with blackhat. Its funny to see all the whitehats here struggling while the blackhat forums are all people buying Porsches...just something to think about.

how many Porsches do you have?

[Dannyboy1]

LOL, you don't even seem to be able to make black-hat work for you either
I hear McDonalds is hiring

OMG ROFLMAO

[nvidura]

what is the s/w you use?

[Dave Gold]

Funny how everyone is laughing yet some of the same people that crack jokes are PMing me how to make big bucks...you white hats are too funny. Here's some news for you...most of the whitehats who say they don't do blackhat do.

[MattUK]

Funny how everyone is laughing yet some of the same people that crack jokes are PMing me how to make big bucks...you white hats are too funny. Here's some news for you...most of the whitehats who say they don't do blackhat do.
I hope with that you're not inferring that I've PM'ed you? 'If' I wanted to learn anything else about blackhat I'd go to someone who was actually a success and not posting on a forum as his sites kept getting banned ;)

Besides, like I said, I have no problem with people using blackhat tactics, (though I'll report them if the turn up in my SERPS - just playing 'the game' after all ;) but spamming forums and blogs is about as anti-social as it gets. Like I said, as soon as it happens to any of mine I fire off an email to Google, their host, their domain resistrar and ISP, I suggest others do the same.

[Dustin07]

I fire off an email to Google, their host, their domain resistrar and ISP, I suggest others do the same.

can you send me a link for submitting that kind of info? My forum gets nailed often.

thanks,

[MattUK]

It's a pain to do as you have to go to different souces to find and submit the info.

You can report sites to Google here -
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html
It's not stricly meant to reposrt forum spam etc, but spamming links goes against their webmaster guidelines

After that I look at their Whois and find the registrar, host and ISP and fire off an email CC'ing them all and including a screenshot of the link and the properties to show the target.

Hosts usually take action first, especially if they recieve several complaints.

[vipjun]

Yea spam is bad, what we do is buy links ...

[Dave Gold]

I've been reported to Adsense, my webhosts, the proxy IPs I use, you name it. Nothing happens. It's not worth your time. Although as you should have inferred from the thread title, mass link spamming isn't something I do much anymore.

[Voasi]

As you know Dave, the blackhat forums are the place to talk. DP is very much anti-blackhat.

And yes, a lot of "whitehat" SEO's do blackhat stuff, or would be considered blackhat stuff. I know lots of blackhats that do whitehat stuff too. It's the stereotype that BlackHat people only do blackhat and that's it. C'mon, they're (we're :)) a lot smarter then that. Give a little credit.

It's all relative. Shit, getting links to boost rankings for the search engines could be considered "blackhat". All relative.

For people that get spammed, um...learn how to use CAPTCHA or another verification type. All of my custom user-generate scripts have some sort of verification, to avoid spam. If you don't want it, educate yourself.

As for your question, I'm not sure why. Might need to tackle blogs that aren't old or have been updated on a recent basis. Most spammers go after old sites that haven't been posted to in a while, cause they know the link won't get removed. Of course, going after sites that are updated often are more likely to get your spam removed or they'll have some sort of spam prevention in place, so little bit of a catch-22. There are other ways to get links. Think outside the box a little bit.

[MattUK]

First post,
but I think it backfired as those sites got banned a lot quicker than normal.

last post,
I've been reported to Adsense, my webhosts, the proxy IPs I use, you name it. Nothing happens. It's not worth your time.

Really Dave?

[Dave Gold]

You obviously know nothing of blackhat SEO if you think I am concerned with a site dropping from the index, I probably lost a few domains writing this post. Adsense account? Check. Hosting? Check. ISP? Check. I'm good to go.

[MattUK]

You obviously know nothing of blackhat SEO if you think I am concerned with a site dropping from the index, I probably lost a few domains writing this post. Adsense account? Check. Hosting? Check. ISP? Check. I'm good to go.
Congrats, if everything is great, why are you here asking for help?:confused:

[gigapromoters]

Ofcourse not, and dont even think about comment spam. It will be of no use at all lately, because of our friendly attribute (rel="nofollow") :D

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