Dmoz

[D4rKNull]

If your site gets listed in dmoz does it goes to all the sites that uses dmoz database. I seen lot of sites thats under same catagory same as dmoz .

And btw how many days it takes a site to get listed in dmoz ?

If my site gets listed in dmoz how many possible backlinks i can get ? i have a intention of getting 15,000 backlinks in 1-2 months. Is it possible please suggest i am new to this SEo.

thanx

[l234244]

1 - It will be included in all the DMOZ clones thta keep up to date with the dump.

2 - Impossible to say 1 hour to 2 years

3 - Easiest way to get 15000 backlinks is to join the coop (http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ad-network/?s=2937)

[jlawrence]

1) depends on when the other sites update.
2) how long is a piece of string - don't hold your breath.
3) who knows - does G even count links shown in dmoz clones ?

If you're determined to get 15000 IBL's in 1-2 months, don't wait for dmoz :). You've certainly got your work cut out. The co-op will/may help, you've certainly set a goal that is going to keep you very very busy - either that or you've got a lot of money.

[jlerner]

Posted by D4rkNull
And btw how many days it takes a site to get listed in dmoz ?

I had 1 site get listed in 8 months - still waiting for my other site. There are some members of this forum that have been waiting for years.

[jlawrence]

My private site has been online since some time in the 90's - it's still not in dmoz. I think I submitted it once years ago - never heard nothing from them, so forgot about them.

I now submit sites if/when they go fully live.
It's upto dmoz if they list them, I couldn't really careless whether they do or don't. But it doesn't take too long to submit a site, so I submit it - just never check whether it's got in or not.

[gworld]

If you need the back links from DMOZ (The only thing DMOZ is good for) , here is my posting on how you to get it in couple of days.

Get DMOZ listing fast (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=14080)

[Blogmaster]

My private site has been online since some time in the 90's - it's still not in dmoz. I think I submitted it once years ago - never heard nothing from them, so forgot about them.

I now submit sites if/when they go fully live.
It's upto dmoz if they list them, I couldn't really careless whether they do or don't. But it doesn't take too long to submit a site, so I submit it - just never check whether it's got in or not.
I would just do a status check here (http://www.resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35315&page=3) .
After such a long time you should at least find out something :cool:

[macdesign]

But it doesn't take too long to submit a site, so I submit it - just never check whether it's got in or not.This works best, submit and forget. If you watch your logs, one day you might see some new traffic, and it turns out it got published. Those huys that wait exactly six months to ask again at resource zone, are much too obsessive, there are better ways to spend one's time.

(Submit and forget) That's what I did before I was an editor, and that's what I still do now that I'm an editor. I have sites that have been sitting for over six months, and I had one I submitted a month or so ago, and I suddenly saw some access a few days ago.

And ignore the suggestion about buying dead links, they are routinely weeded out. Then you get tagged for being sneaky, and it might be difficult to get in again.

[Stin]

forget about dmoz, they arent worth worying about. Just submit, start a status thread ( so u can get your 6month timer started early) and work on other stuff. If you get listed have a great day but dont expect it..

[jlawrence]

ST: Tell you what - you tell me the url I submitted from and I'll go and do battle in RZ :)
I don't even note down submission url's for new site's I submit - nevermind ones I submitted way back.
Having just found one of my sites effectively 302'd (using a refresh in a directory) a slagging match in RZ might just cheer me up. The 302 isn't on purpose (that I do know) but how I'll get rid of it is another matter :( I'm still trying to find an emial address for the directory. If all else fails abuse@ might work.

[macdesign]

Why the slugging attitude - it may make you feel good - but it won't solve your problems. Submit an update for the URL, and then ask in RZ, more likely to get the results you want, on the other hand if you want a fight ....

[jlawrence]

At the moment, getting a site into dmoz is the least of my problems.

[Blogmaster]

I am glad I posted the category I submitted to here (http://www.resource-zone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=173610&postcount=22) so I remember the date and where I submitted :)

[Solicitors Mortgages]

If you need the back links from DMOZ (The only thing DMOZ is good for) , here is my posting on how you to get it in couple of days.

I would say pulling a scam on dmoz..infact the entire internet is the last thing thats going to make your site/business/clients happy.

very unprofessional.

[Blogmaster]

exaclty, short term success can be a long term waste of time and reputation.

[gworld]

I would say pulling a scam on dmoz..infact the entire internet is the last thing thats going to make your site/business/clients happy.

very unprofessional.

Are you by any chance a DMOZ editor?
The whole DMOZ is scam and you must know, how famous the DMOZ editors are for being corrupt.

To complain that some body tries to find a way to get around the corruption, is the same as a theif complains that people have no morals because they won't let him to pick their pockets.

If DMOZ made any effert in any way to clean up the corruption and improve it's business methods, I am sure people would not need to find ways to defeat them.

[Blogmaster]

SM is not a DMOZ editor but what I think he is saying, why sink to that level because others do?

[longcall911]

The whole DMOZ is scam and you must know, how famous the DMOZ editors are for being corrupt.Here we go again... another DMOZ thread turning into a bash session.

The thread starter had a simple question, and many have provided answers.

Can't it just be left at that?

[Blogmaster]

I agree! Those comments should be on this blog (http://dmozpetition.blogspot.com/) or whereever more of a difference can be made if it really is that important of a subject matter.

[gworld]

Here we go again... another DMOZ thread turning into a bash session.

The thread starter had a simple question, and many have provided answers.

Can't it just be left at that?

My original posting was about how to get a DMOZ listing in couple of days, The second posting that you quoted was just an answer to Solicitors Mortgages post that thought such methods were scam.

I do not think so and I was trying to explain why. Because of the whole situation with DMOZ corruption, their business methods and the fact that nobody in reality is using their directory and it is only good for back links, I think the method I described is both acceptable and preferable to waiting for couple of years, or never for such listing.

[macdesign]

I guess people are free to continue to post blatant unproven across the board accusations. Now if this person did that in person with witnesses, there would of course be severe consequences, but being the anonymous internet - there is no accounting.

One problem some people see with DMOZ is the backlog of submissions, many of which are spam. Most of this is caused by scumbags who continue to try to get around the guidelines, causing editors to waste many hours sifting them out.

[gworld]

I guess people are free to continue to post blatant unproven across the board accusations. Now if this person did that in person with witnesses, there would of course be severe consequences, but being the anonymous internet - there is no accounting.

One problem some people see with DMOZ is the backlog of submissions, many of which are spam. Most of this is caused by scumbags who continue to try to get around the guidelines, causing editors to waste many hours sifting them out.

May be I am becoming too sensative but I see in your answer the popular DMOZ, spammer, spammer song.

According to DMOZ editors, spam is the major cause of all problems in the world including corruption and lack of procedure in DMOZ and possibly the war in IRAQ, global warming, ......

It is such a big problem and some how all the smart "human" editors can not solve this problem. :confused:

May be I am wrong but I don't see the spam, as such a big problem and here is my solution on how to solve it.

Make a script that finds the domain name from the submitted link, after all people in DMOZ are the "human" editors who are going to look at the site and not a spider that is going to index every page.
If it is allowed to submit a domain in differnt category ( I never got an answer about this, DMOZ editors change their mind as they go along) then check if the new submission already exists in that category.

1-If domain exist--->Yes--->message to user that dupliacte submission is not excepted

2-If domain exits--->NO----> add to submission database

If only one submission is allowed independent of category then check the domain against submission database:

1- If exits--->message to user, submission refused

2- If it doesn't---> add to submission database

If people in DMOZ don't know how to write this script, I can do it for them free of charge. :)

[Blogmaster]

May be I am becoming too sensative but I see in your answer the popular DMOZ, spammer, spammer song.

no you're not being too sensitive, it gets very annoying.

[minstrel]

Why the slugging attitude - it may make you feel good - but it won't solve your problems. Submit an update for the URL, and then ask in RZ, more likely to get the results you want, on the other hand if you want a fight ....
If you're asking questions in the Resourceless Zone, it doesn't much matter whether or not you want a fight... you'll get one of two things there: (1) nothing - stonewalling - no information - now don't ask again for 6 months or we'll ban you; or (2) insults followed by abuse followed by being banned. Hmmm... tough choice... they both sound so good :o

[minstrel]

Now if this person did that in person with witnesses, there would of course be severe consequences, but being the anonymous internet - there is no accounting.
This is the Resourceless Zone you're talking about now, right? :D

[fryman]

I agree with macdesign, the problem is that people submit all kind of crap to DMOZ, and worse of all, they don't even bother to look at the guidelines before they do.

Take your time, dedicate at least a week studying how other sites have their titles and descriptions, take a look at the DMOZ boards, carefully pick the right category and carefully enter all the necesary details, and voila! That's all you need.

I have 3 sites listed at Dmoz. 2 of them took about a month to get listed, the other one took about 3 months.

I have many, many sites that don't meet the quality guidelines, so I just don't submit them. That's the main problem, everyone thinks that all their sites should be included in DMOZ. No, you need to understand that, be realistic and don't waste the editor's time submitting sites that will just not get aproved.

[Blogmaster]

Absolutely and I think that DMOZ could do a lot more to help their editors pre filter the garbage out.

[Blogmaster]

Fryman, I completely agree with you but realistically speaking: people won't be realistic, everyone thinks his $hit is gold and will put up a fight creaming and fighting.

[minstrel]

Currently in "Applied for DMOZ Editor" queue and scheduled for "DMOZ FUD 101":

I agree with macdesign, the problem is that people submit all kind of crap to DMOZ, and worse of all, they don't even bother to look at the guidelines before they do.

Take your time, dedicate at least a week studying how other sites have their titles and descriptions, take a look at the DMOZ boards, carefully pick the right category and carefully enter all the necesary details, and voila! That's all you need.

I have 3 sites listed at Dmoz. 2 of them took about a month to get listed, the other one took about 3 months.

I have many, many sites that don't meet the quality guidelines, so I just don't submit them. That's the main problem, everyone thinks that all their sites should be included in DMOZ. No, you need to understand that, be realistic and don't waste the editor's time submitting sites that will just not get aproved.
If you really believe this, fryman, you just haven't been paying attention.

It's not DMOZ or its editors that are the problem -- it's the people who submit to DMOZ.

Wow! That's a novel way of looking at the situation... haven't heard THAT one before... :eek:

[fryman]

Well, I did apply to be an editor, and got rejected, lol :D

People told me to apply again, but I just got too busy. And yes, the problem is with the people who submit to DMOZ, I believe that is what I just said in my previous post.

[minstrel]

yes, the problem is with the people who submit to DMOZ, I believe that is what I just said in my previous post.
You don't know what you're talking about -- I believe that is what I just said in my previous post.

[fryman]

Sorry, Minstrel, I forgot that you are always right and have absolute knowledge about everything.

You are right. Sorry again...

[gworld]

Absolutely and I think that DMOZ could do a lot more to help their editors pre filter the garbage out.

The only problem is that if DMOZ decides to filter out the garbage, not that many of DMOZ editor's sites will be in DMOZ.

[Blogmaster]

True as well!

[fryman]

I don't know what kind of criteria they use now to asign a category to the editors, but when I submitted a site related to Christmas, after doing a little research I found out that the editor was the webmaster of several porn sites.

I don't remember if those porn sites were listed at DMOZ, but it did seem a bit strange to see him editing my category.

[Blogmaster]

That is a part of the disorganization there as well. Heard a lot about it.

[gworld]

I don't know what kind of criteria they use now to asign a category to the editors, but when I submitted a site related to Christmas, after doing a little research I found out that the editor was the webmaster of several porn sites.

I don't remember if those porn sites were listed at DMOZ, but it did seem a bit strange to see him editing my category.

I think it makes an interesting combination, what do you think about a naked Santa site? :D

[minstrel]

Sorry, Minstrel, I forgot that you are always right and have absolute knowledge about everything.

You are right. Sorry again...
Apology accepted.