Is traffic from orkut and myspace bad?Please help!

[sar420]

Is it true that if I get a lot of my traffic from orkut and myspace then I coulkd be banned?

I always post my link in orkut communities which are related to my blog topic.
None else. So its definitely targetted traffic that I get. But reading some posts here I am really confused. Plz help!

[thilak]

I don't see a reason behind it because how can you control your inbound traffic ??

[anurag_online]

even i am giving links everywhere including messengers, orkut, hi5, etc dont think it is wrong else waiting for reply

[sar420]

well someone told me that its considerd unhealthy traffic..the traffic that comes from myspace, orkut, hi5 etc. Now my blog is about spirituality and supernatural, currently dealing with Nostradamus prophecies. So I post about it in the Nostradamus community and Black Arts Community.
Obviously Im getting targetted traffic!!

Waiting for someone more knowledgable to reply

[thilak]

Nope, Surely not, You don;t have to fear anything abt it... Its OK to have traffic from these sites..

[Abhik]

no.. i guess its harmless..

[sar420]

well there is another post in this forum...down below where there was a similar thread. There people said all things negative about such traffic

[akamaimommie]

I think it's only bad if you are "spamming" your link on these social networks. Adsense doesn't like link spammers.

[Vexious]

I think the reason why they don't like mail / bulletin traffic is it woudl be easy to put "GO TO my site and CLICK my ads for whatever"... and it would be hard for them to find this out... (unless someone reported you, which they cant really ban for because then whats from stopping people from reporting falsely due to they hate you?)

[sar420]

to akamaimommie: well I really wonder whats their defintion of spamming becoz there r lots of first timers who clcik from orkut n visit my blog. N most of dem like it n comment positively.

To venxious: If thats the reason...its such an irony! Adsense seems to be a complex mixture of complications and ironies. Mysterious n full of suspense.
Unreasoanbly unreasonable sometimes.....but honest I guess

[Pinvader]

someone need to clarify on this..still not very clear for me

Pinvader

[Vexious]

Pinvader, if can go ether way man that why its not clear, some have been banned due to it, others have made thousands. I happen to know 2 people who have gone both ways... Its just like the issue with images next to your gads, some get away with it, others don't... Google isnt really good at giving the same definitive answer and the same responses to everyone...

[wissam]

Is it true that if I get a lot of my traffic from orkut and myspace then I coulkd be banned?

I always post my link in orkut communities which are related to my blog topic.
None else. So its definitely targetted traffic that I get. But reading some posts here I am really confused. Plz help!

Here is a tip :
Drive all your traffic from those sites to a free hosted page, use auto redirection on that site so when a visitor reach it it will take him to your original page .
this way you will kill the refferal tracking .

[Rebecca]

Here is a tip :
Drive all your traffic from those sites to a free hosted page, use auto redirection on that site so when a visitor reach it it will take him to your original page .
this way you will kill the refferal tracking .

Your post is very interesting, it really made me think. It made me wonder what if I had one site that was exclusively to advertise all the others. On that one site it would have no google ads but just advertisements about all my other sites and maybe some free stuff just to help keep the traffic rolling in. On that site I could advertise it however I wanted to like with surfing, pop ups or whatever(because on that site I wouldn't have Google adsense on it). Then, I would have all my text links on that site for the sites that do have adsense...there would be no incentive to click on any. Seems like it would be a great way to increase traffic. But Google is so restrictive, do you think they would have a problem with it?

[wissam]

Your post is very interesting, it really made me think. It made me wonder what if I had one site that was exclusively to advertise all the others. On that one site it would have no google ads but just advertisements about all my other sites and maybe some free stuff just to help keep the traffic rolling in. On that site I could advertise it however I wanted to like with surfing, pop ups or whatever(because on that site I wouldn't have Google adsense on it). Then, I would have all my text links on that site for the sites that do have adsense...there would be no incentive to click on any. Seems like it would be a great way to increase traffic. But Google is so restrictive, do you think they would have a problem with it?
That's what I exactly means, you are smart :rolleyes: ....
They have no problem, you will not be doing something against TOS .
GoodLuck
Sheers ..

[Vexious]

Here is a tip :
Drive all your traffic from those sites to a free hosted page, use auto redirection on that site so when a visitor reach it it will take him to your original page .
this way you will kill the refferal tracking .

But do you really know how far back google can track referals? your screwed if they go to your redirect page and find out your trying to by-pass their tracking methods = insta ban... I would NOT suggest this as it is an easy way to get blacklisted. Sending your visitors to a redirect page to hide referral is a bankable offense...its one of those sorta things you just gotta know...read in between the TOS lines..

[Indian]

Google wants their ads to be placed on genuine high quality sites. If you have a good site then your traffic mostly would be from search engines or other quality sites. If we search on this forum we will find people getting banned from AdSense because of traffic from MySpace. There are posts where people have asked Google if traffic from MySpace is genuine and Google has said its NOT genuine. Now why Google thinks this? Plain and simple...They dont like SPAM.

Not only MySpace/Orkut but lots & lots of traffic from a single referer will always raise a red flag.

[wissam]

But do you really know how far back google can track referals? your screwed if they go to your redirect page and find out your trying to by-pass their tracking methods = insta ban... I would NOT suggest this as it is an easy way to get blacklisted. Sending your visitors to a redirect page to hide referral is a bankable offense...its one of those sorta things you just gotta know...read in between the TOS lines..

I don't use this techinique because I have a lot of traffic, but it is the only way to convert traffic from Myspace and others into quality technique, what about putting a link on that page so if a visitor wants it he will enter it a link like : We Are Moved ...
no one will ben you for that :rolleyes:

[kiran_deep11]

I have a question.
How do Google know that the traffic is comming from emails,orkut,myspace etc.

[wissam]

How do Google know that the traffic is comming from emails,orkut,myspace etc.
AdSense ads do monitor all incoming traffic and store the top 10 and the last 50 reffer traffic source in your database for example, so when they look and find that your most traffic is not clean and coming from those sites, they may flage your site, smart price it, ban you or ban it .

[kiran_deep11]

AdSense ads do monitor all incoming traffic and store the top 10 and the last 50 reffer traffic source in your database for example, so when they look and find that your most traffic is not clean and coming from those sites, they may flage your site, smart price it, ban you or ban it .
I know that they can track from where the traffic is comming from(i mean which country,ip etc).
My question how do they exactly know that the traffic is comming from clicking on the link on myspace,orkut,emails etc.
Personally what i feel is how can a person or a program can know the traffic is comming from clicking a link on myspace etc.
Do they place any spyware program on our computer

[Indian]

Do they place any spyware program on our computer
Google toolbar, Google desktop search :p :D :p

[wissam]

Google toolbar, Google desktop search :p :D :p

Yep yep and even google earth, picasa nad others .

[matthewk]

As long as your are only adding your url to sigs and stuff like that you should be fine. If you are actually creating topics in forums and replying in forums and posting your url when its not necessary, they will tell you to stop.

[sar420]

Gosh, quite an exhaustive discussion this turns out to be...
Well, I get a lot of my traffic from orkut for an academic blog. But for my flagship blog: spiritualghost.blogspot.com , I get traffic from more diverse sources including search engine results and direct visitors. ...But earn from the academic blog because it has more high paying ads and a better CTR. Please let me know if I should await my first cheque or anticipate a ban!

[wissam]

Gosh, quite an exhaustive discussion this turns out to be...
Well, I get a lot of my traffic from orkut for an academic blog. But for my flagship blog: spiritualghost.blogspot.com , I get traffic from more diverse sources including search engine results and direct visitors. ...But earn from the academic blog because it has more high paying ads and a better CTR. Please let me know if I should await my first cheque or anticipate a ban!

Don't worry pal, AdSense loves good publishers who get lot of traffic and clicks but they can't say that officialy because then people will just start spamming and stop developing their content, you may even see a page with opnly ads on it like that nasty digg4it lol .

[hadrick]

Is it true that if I get a lot of my traffic from orkut and myspace then I coulkd be banned?

I always post my link in orkut communities which are related to my blog topic.
None else. So its definitely targetted traffic that I get. But reading some posts here I am really confused. Plz help!
Where did you get that? Although i dont think there are any rules about traffic driving issue. There should be some rules about the site contents, not about the site marketing. But according to the Adsense UAP, you cant be linked with some illegal sites. But i cant find any reason why orkut would be illegal :)

Regards

[sar420]

I hope you're right wissam...:) I mean yeah, even ive seen pages that have ads...n rare content. I wonder how they survive!

And well Hardick, orkut is obviously not illegal...but its supposed to be unhealthy traffic if u get most of ur traffic from there. I myself have not seen any such think in the Adsense TOS, but forum posts by other people, including those who've been banned..make me kind off, believe so...

[sar420]

I know that they can track from where the traffic is comming from(i mean which country,ip etc).
My question how do they exactly know that the traffic is comming from clicking on the link on myspace,orkut,emails etc.
Personally what i feel is how can a person or a program can know the traffic is comming from clicking a link on myspace etc.
Do they place any spyware program on our computer


Its not too difficult to monitor the source of your traffic. In fact, I use a code on my blog by which I can view the source of my traffic...whether its from search engines, orkut..or direct traffic. Im even provided with the IP address of the visitors.
If I can see that...do you think its difficult for GOOGLE to do so??

[wissam]

Its not too difficult to monitor the source of your traffic. In fact, I use a code on my blog by which I can view the source of my traffic...whether its from search engines, orkut..or direct traffic. Im even provided with the IP address of the visitors.
If I can see that...do you think its difficult for GOOGLE to do so??

Sure not ....

[jackburton2006]

If you are SPAMMING these community forums with your site (ala sending out 100s and 1000s of those Myspace Bulletins via bots) you are asking for trouble. The number of people banned for using Myspace bulletins to drive traffic to their site to convert with Adsense gets longer and longer everyday. I don't know about Orkut (don't even know what it is), but if you are sending out a ton of spammy links back to your site, you are asking for trouble, my friend.

And someone mentioned something about hiding your referral links: dude, DON'T DO THAT. If Adsense can't verify your referrals, you are SOL, especially if you get a lot of traffic. This is one of the main reasons people get banned -- too many blank referrals.

[nita_nitd]

If you are SPAMMING these community forums with your site (ala sending out 100s and 1000s of those Myspace Bulletins via bots) you are asking for trouble. The number of people banned for using Myspace bulletins to drive traffic to their site to convert with Adsense gets longer and longer everyday. I don't know about Orkut (don't even know what it is), but if you are sending out a ton of spammy links back to your site, you are asking for trouble, my friend.

And someone mentioned something about hiding your referral links: dude, DON'T DO THAT. If Adsense can't verify your referrals, you are SOL, especially if you get a lot of traffic. This is one of the main reasons people get banned -- too many blank referrals.

Orukt is very famous in India and subcontinent. And for your kind information it’s a part of Big boss GOOGLE

If traffic from my space is danger then traffic from orkut is ____ (the word does not exist :D :D )… I don’t know about others but for me if u r driving traffic from orkut then its like banning urself from adsense.
Though I hate using orkut for various reasons (really don’t remember when the last time I used it) one of my educational site is getting around 0.2% of the traffic from it.

[adsenser]

traffic frm messengers, chatrooms are unhealthy and google will most probably will ban the account soon or later.

THis is what i read from authentic source

[wissam]

traffic frm messengers, chatrooms are unhealthy and google will most probably will ban the account soon or later.

THis is what i read from authentic source

I don't think so ...

[sar420]

If you are SPAMMING these community forums with your site (ala sending out 100s and 1000s of those Myspace Bulletins via bots) you are asking for trouble. The number of people banned for using Myspace bulletins to drive traffic to their site to convert with Adsense gets longer and longer everyday. I don't know about Orkut (don't even know what it is), but if you are sending out a ton of spammy links back to your site, you are asking for trouble, my friend.

And someone mentioned something about hiding your referral links: dude, DON'T DO THAT. If Adsense can't verify your referrals, you are SOL, especially if you get a lot of traffic. This is one of the main reasons people get banned -- too many blank referrals.

Well I dont use bots and all that stuff...just promote it manually in the forums.
Now Im really tensed about my adsense future!!

[sar420]

really confused!!

[idzone]

What would everyone say about a myspace resource website? Many DP members run such sites. And the top referrer is expected to be myspace.com

In this case, what?

[Indian]

I don't think so ...
Alot of traffic just from chat rooms, MySpace, Orkut etc. will put you in trouble.

[idzone]

But you don't have control over this traffic. What about the hundreds of myspace resource sites running?

[devang]

even I'm doing the same, advertising my forum link in orkut. I don't see any prob with it.

[sar420]

even I'm doing the same, advertising my forum link in orkut. I don't see any prob with it.

phew...got a few companions here. But my friend, what you think and what actually happens can turn out quite diiffferent!

[sar420]

its so difficult to get the right seo, too much competition....orkut n myspace traffic should be allowed, especially the non spamming traffic!

[anurag_online]

Confirmed from google... They say YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY VISITOR TO YOUR WEBSITE and ANY UNWANTED CLICKS to your ads!!!! so beware while throwing links to anywhere... kepp in mind only we are RESPONSIBLE

[thilak]

That's unjust !!

[adsenser]

Finally i would say that don't take chance of getting banned....

[thilak]

that's right, but who the hell cares ?

[sar420]

Finally i would say that don't take chance of getting banned....

I think I gotto agree with you, why take a risk of a lifetime ban for a few extra bucks....its a bit too authoritarian, but well..its Google!

[Nida G]

i think traffic is harmless until its is normal...if one traffic com 10K and other day 1K then it can made your account suspicous

[sar420]

i think traffic is harmless until its is normal...if one traffic com 10K and other day 1K then it can made your account suspicous

Of course, that goes without saying. Well in that way my traffic is more or less stable...so I guess I can now be a bit more hopeful of my prospects with google

[sar420]

but just hope i dint violate the TOS too much.....if this is viloating the TOS

[Ballz]

No problem with such traffic... chill.. enjoy it!

[sar420]

No problem with such traffic... chill.. enjoy it!

r you sure?

[anurag_online]

r you sure?

I said I have confirmed.. we will be held responsible.. so keep an eye on from where hits are coming

[Kyle H.]

Here is a tip :
Drive all your traffic from those sites to a free hosted page, use auto redirection on that site so when a visitor reach it it will take him to your original page .
this way you will kill the refferal tracking .

Nice tip and nice blog too

[Blogspotter]

Here is a tip :
Drive all your traffic from those sites to a free hosted page, use auto redirection on that site so when a visitor reach it it will take him to your original page .
this way you will kill the refferal tracking .

Last time I checked, Matt Cutts hates redirects..:)

[sar420]

Last time I checked, Matt Cutts hates redirects..:)

Whos's that?

[Blogspotter]

Whos's that?

Hehe he, he is Google. Search for him in google..

[sar420]

ohhh..got u now...if matt hates rediects, then we ought to forget wat redirects are!

[sar420]

Guys check out this link, and then you might understand the reason for this thread!

http://www.technosailor.com/ypn-sees-myspace-as-evil-bans-publishers/#comment-21755

[jonixkonios]

It's the target. If you have a site about fishing, and you joined myspace groups only about fishing, then put some messages there with a link to your site, for sure that traffic will convert and you'll get returning visitors. Myspace in this case it's only the first "love", after that people now your url and will visit it directly.

Of course if you have a site with let's say 100 uniques a day, and then one day you have 900 uniques (all from myspace), that will raise a big red flag, and you are getting trouble.

Like in everything about life, you need to target. When you are with a group of people and they are talking about cars, but you don't know nothing about cars, you'll be most of the time very quietly on your corner only listening. That's the same thing for traffic. If you want traffic from my space, it must be very targeted like the example of the site about fishing that i gave.

if you send a bulletin to thousands, you'll brind many people that don't like the niche and nothing will convert, and a red flag is raised.

[vibe venom]

what about traffic from friendster?

[sar420]

what about traffic from friendster?

Ohh thats the same..equally bad as orkut hi5 or myspace.

[jonixkonios]

what about traffic from friendster?

Any traffic can be good, but it must be targeted. If you get target traffic from that sites, you can do it well.

Allways remember that you can use CPA Ads instead of adsense or YPN.
CPA Ads if you get target traffic can bring alot more revenue then adsense or ypn.